1 2011-01-09T00:00:13 <dreimark> achshar: i do a spell check for the next pastebin, there are some more, try to find them yourself
2 2011-01-09T00:00:28 <achshar> hmmm i am having.. a typo search myself
3 2011-01-09T00:00:39 <achshar> yea i am onto that right now..
4 2011-01-09T00:00:50 <achshar> sorry for such a terrible spelling
5 2011-01-09T00:09:23 <dreimark> achshar: why is in tables section Admonitions and followings?
6 2011-01-09T00:10:31 <achshar> oh sorry i just copied the titles
7 2011-01-09T00:10:43 <achshar> which had h2 underlines.. :(
8 2011-01-09T00:11:00 <achshar> i have corrected them and the spellings.. :)
9 2011-01-09T00:11:52 <achshar> should i give you another pastebin?
10 2011-01-09T00:11:56 <dreimark> yes
11 2011-01-09T00:12:35 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: did a short test, looks good so far
12 2011-01-09T00:12:53 <ThomasWaldmann> do you have anything pending or do you think it is finished?
13 2011-01-09T00:13:51 <dreimark> achshar: me waits
14 2011-01-09T00:13:57 <achshar> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317369/
15 2011-01-09T00:14:18 <achshar> sorry was trying pastebin but it requires captcha to view..
16 2011-01-09T00:14:29 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: besides the goto macro and the login_hints its finished i'd say
17 2011-01-09T00:14:35 <achshar> so back to pocoo
18 2011-01-09T00:14:50 <izibi> but macros don't work and the login_hint stuff would need major changes
19 2011-01-09T00:15:51 <dreimark> achshar: creoleWiki.rst
20 2011-01-09T00:16:03 <dreimark> typo look on the case
21 2011-01-09T00:16:20 <dreimark> mediaWiki.rst
22 2011-01-09T00:16:23 <izibi> i'll submit it to melange
23 2011-01-09T00:16:44 <dreimark> achshar: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/7241c0b6d06a/docs/user
24 2011-01-09T00:17:03 <dreimark> achshar: **Notes** The underline below the title must atleat be equal to the length of \
25 2011-01-09T00:17:06 <dreimark> the title itself..
26 2011-01-09T00:17:09 <dreimark> still wrong
27 2011-01-09T00:17:14 <dreimark> it is at least
28 2011-01-09T00:17:52 <achshar> omg the spell checkermessed up.. I AM SO SORRY!
29 2011-01-09T00:19:14 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: login looks strange :)
30 2011-01-09T00:19:20 <dreimark> achshar: a simple rule is to do it more than once
31 2011-01-09T00:19:33 <dreimark> look for eg it is e.g.
32 2011-01-09T00:19:36 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: ?
33 2011-01-09T00:19:40 <achshar> hmm
34 2011-01-09T00:19:56 <dreimark> (eg a/A or i/I)
35 2011-01-09T00:20:14 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: try it
36 2011-01-09T00:20:19 <achshar> done :)
37 2011-01-09T00:20:24 <dreimark> and html likly is HTML
38 2011-01-09T00:20:31 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: i think that is the login hint :)
39 2011-01-09T00:20:59 <achshar> :)
40 2011-01-09T00:21:00 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: for me it just looks like before
41 2011-01-09T00:21:24 <ThomasWaldmann> the bg image extends to the background of the hint
42 2011-01-09T00:22:32 <izibi> it also did that before
43 2011-01-09T00:22:36 <izibi> but i can change it
44 2011-01-09T00:24:56 <dreimark> achshar: Notes The underline below the title must atleat be equal to the length of the title itself..
45 2011-01-09T00:25:08 <dreimark> s/atleat/at least/
46 2011-01-09T00:25:09 <dreimark> and
47 2011-01-09T00:25:15 <dreimark> /.././
48 2011-01-09T00:25:30 <achshar> ok
49 2011-01-09T00:25:35 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: oh, well, ok, afterwards then
50 2011-01-09T00:26:36 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: login_hint is solved currently by using Markup()
51 2011-01-09T00:26:53 <ThomasWaldmann> so aside from refactoring that to something better, nothing todo, right?
52 2011-01-09T00:27:03 <achshar> any thing big other than spelling.. maybe i could work on that while you check the rest of the file?
53 2011-01-09T00:27:20 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: goto macro
54 2011-01-09T00:27:36 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, and that :)
55 2011-01-09T00:27:47 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: how about |e ?
56 2011-01-09T00:29:03 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: can be removed but then all the code would depend on autoescape
57 2011-01-09T00:29:40 <ThomasWaldmann> we have it on globally anyway, right?
58 2011-01-09T00:30:55 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: depends on how you see autoescaping
59 2011-01-09T00:31:05 <dreimark> achshar: did you tried the Internal Links markup example
60 2011-01-09T00:31:15 <dreimark> can you show me it on the test wiki
61 2011-01-09T00:31:19 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: why?
62 2011-01-09T00:31:24 <izibi> in my opinion it's just an additional security feature that jumps in if you accidentally forget |e
63 2011-01-09T00:31:34 <izibi> but if you see it as a base security concept
64 2011-01-09T00:31:54 <achshar> test wiki?
65 2011-01-09T00:32:06 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: what do the docs tell?
66 2011-01-09T00:32:22 <achshar> btw i checked all the markup on the onlne rendrer at http://www.tele3.cz/jbar/rest/rest.html
67 2011-01-09T00:32:54 <achshar> nd internal link worked
68 2011-01-09T00:33:03 <dreimark> achshar: this does us not tell what markup did not work in moin-2 currently
69 2011-01-09T00:33:13 <dreimark> test it on test.moinmo.in
70 2011-01-09T00:33:19 <dreimark> and show me the page
71 2011-01-09T00:33:38 <achshar> hmm that was what i was askng about yestersay
72 2011-01-09T00:33:51 <dreimark> also do you have seen that on the makup example "This is an ordinary paragraph, intr..."
73 2011-01-09T00:33:58 <achshar> that how//where do i check if the mrkup works at moin
74 2011-01-09T00:34:06 <dreimark> the indenting is not removed as on other examples
75 2011-01-09T00:34:15 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: |e escapes and transforms to a Markup() objects, which is safe, so autoescape doesn't run again on it
76 2011-01-09T00:34:26 <dreimark> achshar: http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2
77 2011-01-09T00:34:39 <ThomasWaldmann> but if it is no Markup() (no |e), it would have same effect afaics
78 2011-01-09T00:34:40 <dreimark> create a new rst item and test your markup
79 2011-01-09T00:34:47 <achshar> ok
80 2011-01-09T00:35:24 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: yes of course, the output is the same. but do you want to rely on autoescaping?
81 2011-01-09T00:35:32 <dreimark> becasue you know your syntax is correct, you can mark stuff not working as rsttodo
82 2011-01-09T00:35:40 <izibi> but i can remove it
83 2011-01-09T00:35:44 <achshar> hmm ok
84 2011-01-09T00:35:52 <ThomasWaldmann> so with autoescape on, policy is to see everything as unsafe (and to be escaped) except if we tell otherwise by using a Markup() object
85 2011-01-09T00:37:01 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: i think that was the point of the whole thing. and i also have hope we can rely on it.
86 2011-01-09T00:37:59 <achshar> hmm what is wrong with my local instalation? it does not render rst but shows the code in colored form
87 2011-01-09T00:38:19 <achshar> did you add the rendering part just recently?
88 2011-01-09T00:38:22 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: just asked mitsuhiko what he thinks
89 2011-01-09T00:39:07 <achshar> and yeah that internal does not work..
90 2011-01-09T00:39:07 <dreimark> achshar: nothing changed here
91 2011-01-09T00:39:21 <dreimark> achshar: and please use the test wiki I showed
92 2011-01-09T00:39:34 <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/
93 2011-01-09T00:39:38 <achshar> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2/test
94 2011-01-09T00:39:53 <achshar> yeah did that only.. as i said.. mine does not render anything
95 2011-01-09T00:40:27 <dreimark> achshar: please test all of your examples
96 2011-01-09T00:40:37 <achshar> on my way
97 2011-01-09T00:44:53 <achshar> images have some problem.. nothing seems to show up after image.
98 2011-01-09T00:46:09 *** jacktheripper
99 2011-01-09T00:48:03 <achshar> everything goes as comment
100 2011-01-09T00:48:23 <achshar> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2/test
101 2011-01-09T00:52:11 <achshar> btw this is what my local moin2 looks like with rst code in a rest page
102 2011-01-09T00:52:12 <achshar> dreimark
103 2011-01-09T00:52:24 <achshar> http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BMvmhJvyrWU/TSj4XSOqRYI/AAAAAAAAA0o/3YShe3tBOz8/s800/Untitled.jpg
104 2011-01-09T00:54:10 <dreimark> achshar: ah
105 2011-01-09T00:54:21 <dreimark> add a todo for this problem
106 2011-01-09T00:55:03 <dreimark> RSTTODO
107 2011-01-09T00:55:13 <achshar> which the everything after image comment or the one whose image i gave you above?
108 2011-01-09T00:56:57 <achshar> what an irony.. everything after image is a comment but the actual comment does not work :P
109 2011-01-09T00:58:38 <dreimark> for every example which does not give the correct output
110 2011-01-09T00:59:32 <achshar> hmm and what about http://lh4.ggpht.com/_BMvmhJvyrWU/TSj4XSOqRYI/AAAAAAAAA0o/3YShe3tBOz8/s800/Untitled.jpg?
111 2011-01-09T01:00:19 <dreimark> what is with it, i don't understand
112 2011-01-09T01:00:25 <dreimark> look at meta
113 2011-01-09T01:01:25 <achshar> meta? like source code html meta tags?
114 2011-01-09T01:02:49 <dreimark> achshar: # Show
115 2011-01-09T01:02:49 <dreimark> # Meta
116 2011-01-09T01:02:52 <dreimark> # Modify
117 2011-01-09T01:03:06 <achshar> oh
118 2011-01-09T01:03:08 <dreimark> I guess you don't have
119 2011-01-09T01:03:18 <dreimark> mimetype": "text/x-rst",
120 2011-01-09T01:03:25 <achshar> i have it
121 2011-01-09T01:03:27 <achshar> { "edit_log_action": "SAVE", "edit_log_addr": "127.0.0.1", "edit_log_hostname": "activate.adobe.com", "itemlinks": [], "itemtransclusions": [], "mimetype": "text/x-rst", "name": "Test", "sha1": "b22f8fd5813721cd251adaec5a0ecf9672815a86", "uuid": "Test"
122 2011-01-09T01:03:32 <dreimark> it works for me
123 2011-01-09T01:03:49 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: due to your work, we'll have less XSS CVEs in moin2 :)
124 2011-01-09T01:05:53 <dreimark> hopefully autoescape is well tested
125 2011-01-09T01:06:34 <achshar> what is autoescape?
126 2011-01-09T01:06:50 <dreimark> achshar: that's what izibi is implementing
127 2011-01-09T01:07:02 <achshar> oh
128 2011-01-09T01:07:06 <ThomasWaldmann> stuff inserted into template is automatically escaped. e.g. < -> <
129 2011-01-09T01:07:52 <ThomasWaldmann> well, jinja2 does this. but of course we need to tell then when we really want html inserted.
130 2011-01-09T01:07:53 <dreimark> achshar: has rest in moin-2 already worked for you?
131 2011-01-09T01:08:18 <achshar> no
132 2011-01-09T01:08:33 <achshar> not on my local
133 2011-01-09T01:09:04 <dreimark> hmm, add a note on top of your document, TODO check on windows
134 2011-01-09T01:09:14 <achshar> okie
135 2011-01-09T01:09:38 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: you have docutils?
136 2011-01-09T01:10:18 <achshar> what is that?
137 2011-01-09T01:10:29 <dreimark> ah, that explains it
138 2011-01-09T01:10:38 <achshar> if i dont know what it is then probably i dont have it
139 2011-01-09T01:10:39 <dreimark> you don't have read requirements
140 2011-01-09T01:10:41 <achshar> exactly
141 2011-01-09T01:10:48 <achshar> no notreally
142 2011-01-09T01:10:54 <achshar> oops
143 2011-01-09T01:11:17 <achshar> i am removing that todo now.. :)
144 2011-01-09T01:12:17 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0-dev/changeset/6b6f740184f7
145 2011-01-09T01:13:14 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: docbook should be added to requirements
146 2011-01-09T01:13:47 <achshar> dreimark: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317394/
147 2011-01-09T01:14:16 <achshar> i ahve tested every code on moin2 and added todo for those not working
148 2011-01-09T01:14:54 <achshar> btw maybe moin could warn user that he does not have docutils..
149 2011-01-09T01:15:31 <achshar> and here is my current test page http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2/test
150 2011-01-09T01:16:01 <dreimark> -RSTTODO
151 2011-01-09T01:16:09 <dreimark> the - ?
152 2011-01-09T01:16:38 <dreimark> s/image code/ image markup/ ?
153 2011-01-09T01:16:58 <achshar> ok and about - a space was missing :O
154 2011-01-09T01:18:02 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: I try right now
155 2011-01-09T01:18:05 * dreimark got some more ideas for gci, unfortunately it ends soon
156 2011-01-09T01:18:13 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: you used automated search for |e ?
157 2011-01-09T01:18:53 <achshar> if its an easy one then maybe i could pull it iff
158 2011-01-09T01:19:00 <dreimark> achshar: you know bart simpson ?
159 2011-01-09T01:19:25 <dreimark> i remember a sketch where he had to write many times a sentence
160 2011-01-09T01:19:35 <achshar> yeah
161 2011-01-09T01:19:36 <dreimark> look at (e.g a/A or i/I)
162 2011-01-09T01:19:42 <dreimark> it is still wrong
163 2011-01-09T01:20:07 <achshar> oh e.g>e.g.
164 2011-01-09T01:20:13 <dreimark> and the sentence misses a dot at the end
165 2011-01-09T01:20:16 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10224:7cd2d96b5ae9 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/base.html: Added some escape filters to base.html and removed the HHH-tag.
166 2011-01-09T01:20:19 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10225:9d20a4ff83fa 2.0-dev/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Moved html_head, logo, before_header, after_header, before_footer and after_footer to snippets.html
167 2011-01-09T01:20:21 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10226:181ae3f00889 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py items/__init__.py util/diff_html.py):
168 2011-01-09T01:20:21 <CIA-56> Marked the rendered page content and the output of diff_html as Markup.
169 2011-01-09T01:20:21 <CIA-56> The HTML tags in the diff_html function are needed as they mark the changed parts.
170 2011-01-09T01:20:22 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10227:fde0a16ea575 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: Marked output of the _render_data and _render_data_diff methods of some Item subclasses as Markup.
171 2011-01-09T01:20:23 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10228:4b7dde86c479 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py: Marked output of MoinAuth.login_hint() as Markup.
172 2011-01-09T01:20:26 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10229:6481c61d169b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/feed/views.py: Removed the HHH comment as there some HTML just gets wrapped in some more HTML and removed a redundant line of code.
173 2011-01-09T01:20:28 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10230:8fde846c46b2 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: Removed MoinFlask class. This enables autoescaping in the templates.
174 2011-01-09T01:20:30 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10231:ae932bb8982e 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/snippets.html: Reformatted empty macros in snippets.html.
175 2011-01-09T01:20:32 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10232:4362277036e0 2.0-dev/wikiconfig.py: Added warning comment again to wikiconfig.py.
176 2011-01-09T01:20:34 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10233:2d26b7958295 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Marked meta_rendered as Markup.
177 2011-01-09T01:20:35 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10234:6b6f740184f7 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/ (21 files): Removed escape filters from templates. They are unnecessary now as autoescaping was enabled.
178 2011-01-09T01:20:49 <achshar> wow what's happening?
179 2011-01-09T01:20:55 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: i used sed but i checked it ;)
180 2011-01-09T01:21:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
181 2011-01-09T01:21:11 <dreimark> achshar: if it is a sentence make it one.
182 2011-01-09T01:21:27 <dreimark> achshar: thomas merged
183 2011-01-09T01:22:00 <achshar> alright.. :O
184 2011-01-09T01:22:27 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: submit something to melange please
185 2011-01-09T01:22:46 <izibi> i already did
186 2011-01-09T01:23:07 <dreimark> achshar: Easy markup for tables consisting of two rows. This syntax can have no more than two rows.
187 2011-01-09T01:23:20 <dreimark> only two rows?
188 2011-01-09T01:23:35 <achshar> yeah it crashed when i used three
189 2011-01-09T01:23:50 <achshar> the online rendrer
190 2011-01-09T01:24:35 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ah, ok, maybe i didn't refresh
191 2011-01-09T01:24:45 <achshar> and so does moin
192 2011-01-09T01:24:58 <achshar> it just does not show them as a row
193 2011-01-09T01:25:47 <dreimark> ok
194 2011-01-09T01:26:55 <dreimark> Admonitions are used as a caution/notice block
195 2011-01-09T01:27:13 <dreimark> s/notice/notification?
196 2011-01-09T01:27:15 <izibi> is fixing the flash style enough for a fix bug task? that way i could get up to 9 tasks :D
197 2011-01-09T01:27:41 <achshar> well could be both.. both have diffrent meanings i guess.. :O
198 2011-01-09T01:27:47 <dreimark> ok
199 2011-01-09T01:28:55 <achshar> Notice: an announcement or intimation of something impending; warning: a day's notice. Notification: an act or instance of notifying, making known, or giving notice; notice
200 2011-01-09T01:29:39 <dreimark> then it is notification in my eyes
201 2011-01-09T01:29:52 <achshar> hmm okies.. :)
202 2011-01-09T01:30:59 <dreimark> so far it is ok
203 2011-01-09T01:31:18 <CIA-56> pavel_vinogradov default * 10235:1e2d835402a2 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/_tests/test_user.py: Add new unit test for bug in user.create_user function (encoding passwords starting with '{SHA}')
204 2011-01-09T01:31:19 <CIA-56> pavel_vinogradov default * 10236:ffaa737cbb46 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/user.py: Always encode user password in user.create_user function (remove exception clause for passwords starting with '{SHA}')
205 2011-01-09T01:31:21 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10237:a0b2b86a3efe 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (_tests/test_user.py user.py): merged pavel's repo
206 2011-01-09T01:31:37 <achshar> hmm have made all the changes you told... :)
207 2011-01-09T01:31:52 <dreimark> last pastebin, then submission
208 2011-01-09T01:32:26 <achshar> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317410/
209 2011-01-09T01:33:07 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129451322377 why do you want that? this would break all openids of people who use their own domain for it
210 2011-01-09T01:34:07 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: a company (or other org) might use their own openid stuff and require that one only uses that one
211 2011-01-09T01:35:11 <achshar> light's gone.. have to go.. brb
212 2011-01-09T01:35:15 *** achshar
213 2011-01-09T01:35:22 <izibi> so in fact to use openid for having a single user database? interesting idea ;)
214 2011-01-09T01:36:23 <dreimark> izibi: another task in preparation is making moin again as openid server
215 2011-01-09T01:36:31 <dreimark> /server/provider/
216 2011-01-09T01:36:39 <dreimark> reimplementing of a 1.7 feature
217 2011-01-09T01:36:55 <izibi> 01:27 < izibi> is fixing the flash style enough for a fix bug task? that way i could get up to 9 tasks :D
218 2011-01-09T01:37:03 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
219 2011-01-09T01:37:09 * dreimark agrees
220 2011-01-09T01:37:47 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i had merging trouble with nikita's stuff
221 2011-01-09T01:38:03 <ThomasWaldmann> that should be solved before more work is done
222 2011-01-09T01:38:13 *** achshar
223 2011-01-09T01:38:14 <ThomasWaldmann> (on that topic)
224 2011-01-09T01:38:31 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: what do you mean "light's gone"?
225 2011-01-09T01:39:26 <dreimark> sounds like good night ?
226 2011-01-09T01:39:48 <achshar> oh it means electricity went off. it hapens here.. :O
227 2011-01-09T01:39:56 <dreimark> oh
228 2011-01-09T01:40:16 <ThomasWaldmann> so it returned or you switched to the laptop? :)
229 2011-01-09T01:41:11 <achshar> now i am on my cell which means takes longer to reply
230 2011-01-09T01:41:50 <dreimark> achshar: /must at leat/must at least/
231 2011-01-09T01:41:52 <achshar> i dont have laptop.. :(
232 2011-01-09T01:41:58 <dreimark> I guess your s key is broken
233 2011-01-09T01:42:54 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: laptops are nice due to builtin UPS, some even have a keyboard light :)
234 2011-01-09T01:43:16 <achshar> hahaha damn it! but i cant do nythng abt it rite nw
235 2011-01-09T01:44:50 <dreimark> after you fixed that send it to melange
236 2011-01-09T01:45:00 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann i know bt i cnt affrd dem rite nw other wise i wuld hav an android first! :P
237 2011-01-09T01:45:40 <achshar> dreimark cool! thanks
238 2011-01-09T01:46:37 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: I had a computer with about 1MHz at your age. :)
239 2011-01-09T01:47:00 <achshar> btw beng on phn also menz stupid bt time savin shrt frms.. while typing :P
240 2011-01-09T01:47:04 * izibi 'll claim the easy bug task for fixing flash style now
241 2011-01-09T01:47:44 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ok
242 2011-01-09T01:48:13 <achshar> its back! huray!
243 2011-01-09T01:48:45 <izibi> actually i wanted to go to bed earlier today. but it's like every day :D
244 2011-01-09T01:49:18 <ThomasWaldmann> hey, it is early (in the morning)
245 2011-01-09T01:49:51 <izibi> i think i'm going to be pretty tired on monday :D
246 2011-01-09T01:49:52 <dreimark> some hours before sunrise
247 2011-01-09T01:50:24 <achshar> early moring here too 6am
248 2011-01-09T01:50:36 <izibi> 2 am here
249 2011-01-09T01:51:26 *** achshar
250 2011-01-09T01:51:33 *** achshar
251 2011-01-09T01:51:51 <achshar> i am here!
252 2011-01-09T01:51:56 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129271286250 please accept ;)
253 2011-01-09T01:52:28 <ThomasWaldmann> done
254 2011-01-09T01:52:35 <izibi> thx
255 2011-01-09T01:52:59 <izibi> since there are icons missing: which licences are ok?
256 2011-01-09T01:53:56 <dreimark> gnu gpl same as moin
257 2011-01-09T01:54:01 <achshar> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037964768
258 2011-01-09T01:54:08 <dreimark> or compatible
259 2011-01-09T01:56:32 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: are they really missing?
260 2011-01-09T01:56:38 <ThomasWaldmann> or just not used?
261 2011-01-09T01:58:16 <achshar> i have submited the file after changing that atleast
262 2011-01-09T01:58:25 <achshar> oops at least *
263 2011-01-09T01:58:30 <achshar> hahahahaha
264 2011-01-09T01:58:37 <izibi> oh right, there are already some icons but the links dont work
265 2011-01-09T01:59:51 <izibi> they're in MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/img/smileys/. i'd move them one dir up as they aren't smileys
266 2011-01-09T02:01:15 <CIA-56> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 10238:36f6e8acd4c3 2.0-dev/docs/user/rest.rst: reST markup docs (thanks to Achshar, GCI 2010)
267 2011-01-09T02:01:19 <dreimark> achshar: ^
268 2011-01-09T02:01:26 <achshar> yayyyy
269 2011-01-09T02:01:51 <achshar> i will FINALLY have android in about two months.. :D
270 2011-01-09T02:02:01 <achshar> hell yes!
271 2011-01-09T02:02:08 <izibi> congratulations ;)
272 2011-01-09T02:02:42 <achshar> thanks alot ThomasWaldmann dreimark izibi ronny and xorAxAx
273 2011-01-09T02:02:47 <achshar> :D
274 2011-01-09T02:04:12 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: do androids dream of electric sheep?
275 2011-01-09T02:04:28 *** DPini
276 2011-01-09T02:04:38 <achshar> i dont know but i am about to know :P
277 2011-01-09T02:04:45 <ThomasWaldmann> hi DPini
278 2011-01-09T02:04:46 <achshar> in about two months :O
279 2011-01-09T02:04:54 <DPini> hi Thomas
280 2011-01-09T02:05:01 <DPini> Im going to translate some strings
281 2011-01-09T02:05:12 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: in case you want to get your pc really busy, install that electricsheep stuff :)
282 2011-01-09T02:05:16 <DPini> I should edit the .po file directly from the wiki site?
283 2011-01-09T02:05:41 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you can either edit it online on master19 wiki or download/upload it
284 2011-01-09T02:06:15 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann do you have any other task that i can do?
285 2011-01-09T02:06:36 <achshar> btw i rank about 80 now..! out of 356
286 2011-01-09T02:07:19 <dreimark> gn
287 2011-01-09T02:07:32 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
288 2011-01-09T02:07:36 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Where I shoud indicate that Im editing the file offline the file, on the GCI task or in the wiki?
289 2011-01-09T02:08:04 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you claim the task and add a comment on top of the wiki page
290 2011-01-09T02:08:14 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Ok
291 2011-01-09T02:08:16 <achshar> gn dreimark
292 2011-01-09T02:08:16 <ThomasWaldmann> that you're editing it
293 2011-01-09T02:08:30 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: have a look at what's on melange
294 2011-01-09T02:08:40 <achshar> hmm cool
295 2011-01-09T02:09:01 <ThomasWaldmann> the docbook thing would need reading some stuff about docbook, it's a bit different, xml stuff
296 2011-01-09T02:11:45 <DPini> Why I cant edit the wiki page?
297 2011-01-09T02:12:22 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you need to create an account there and add your name to MoinPagesEditorGroup page
298 2011-01-09T02:12:31 <DPini> I have done it
299 2011-01-09T02:12:42 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: maybe the sphinx styleguide?
300 2011-01-09T02:12:49 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: username?
301 2011-01-09T02:12:58 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: DavidPinilla
302 2011-01-09T02:14:05 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, should work
303 2011-01-09T02:14:13 <ThomasWaldmann> which page did you try to edit?
304 2011-01-09T02:14:36 <DPini> It says that I dont have permission to change the ACL
305 2011-01-09T02:15:12 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, use ##acl
306 2011-01-09T02:15:58 <ThomasWaldmann> or just don't change it :)
307 2011-01-09T02:16:24 <izibi> is there a specific reason why the icons are currently displayed using :before?
308 2011-01-09T02:16:35 <achshar> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129098518156
309 2011-01-09T02:16:39 <achshar> ?
310 2011-01-09T02:17:10 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann ^^
311 2011-01-09T02:17:25 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: ok, then, I download the file without writing anything, edit it with poedit, and upload it when I have finished?
312 2011-01-09T02:18:00 <achshar> i dont know python.. :(
313 2011-01-09T02:18:02 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: yes
314 2011-01-09T02:18:18 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: ok, thank you ;)
315 2011-01-09T02:18:32 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: in case of upload trouble, submit it to melange. submitting to wiki is preferred though, it does some basic check there.
316 2011-01-09T02:18:50 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: ok
317 2011-01-09T02:19:26 <DPini> can you recommend me a program to edit .po files?
318 2011-01-09T02:20:01 <izibi> the best text editor in the world: vim :)
319 2011-01-09T02:20:01 <DPini> I always do it from rosetta (launchpad) :P
320 2011-01-09T02:20:21 <DPini> izibi: I tried vim, but its hard to learn :P
321 2011-01-09T02:20:39 <izibi> but it's easy to use afterwards
322 2011-01-09T02:20:48 <izibi> just use your favorite text editor
323 2011-01-09T02:20:56 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you can use any text editor that does utf-8
324 2011-01-09T02:21:10 <DPini> and what about gtranslator?
325 2011-01-09T02:21:35 <ThomasWaldmann> no idea, i usually use text editor or wiki
326 2011-01-09T02:22:19 <DPini> I only have to write translated text from the msgid field into the msgstr field?
327 2011-01-09T02:22:43 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, carefully :)
328 2011-01-09T02:22:51 <DPini> ok, I will try vim :P
329 2011-01-09T02:22:57 <achshar> gn everybody :D and thanks again..
330 2011-01-09T02:23:06 <ThomasWaldmann> and keep all %s or %(foo)s exactly as is
331 2011-01-09T02:23:19 <ThomasWaldmann> gn achshar
332 2011-01-09T02:23:19 <izibi> achshar: gn and have fun with your android ;)
333 2011-01-09T02:23:27 <achshar> :D
334 2011-01-09T02:23:27 <DPini> ok, I know a little bit about python :D
335 2011-01-09T02:25:04 <ThomasWaldmann> great :)
336 2011-01-09T02:25:09 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann i am here for any small html/css work.. achshar.com/achshar2@gmail.com :)
337 2011-01-09T02:25:28 <izibi> why is there no icon for hints?
338 2011-01-09T02:25:48 <ThomasWaldmann> no idea
339 2011-01-09T02:25:53 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: check if 1.9 does it
340 2011-01-09T02:26:37 *** achshar
341 2011-01-09T02:32:44 <izibi> shall the flash messages really be displayed above the editbar?
342 2011-01-09T02:33:10 <DPini> for two or more lines strings
343 2011-01-09T02:33:26 <DPini> how does work two or more lines strings?*
344 2011-01-09T02:33:54 <izibi> msgstr "..."
345 2011-01-09T02:33:56 <izibi> "......"
346 2011-01-09T02:34:18 <izibi> just like in the message id
347 2011-01-09T02:34:26 <DPini> I have seen msgstr "" #with nothing
348 2011-01-09T02:34:26 <DPini> "First line"
349 2011-01-09T02:34:26 <DPini> "Second line"
350 2011-01-09T02:34:31 <DPini> ok
351 2011-01-09T02:34:33 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ehrm, didn't we have them below editbar?
352 2011-01-09T02:34:36 <izibi> or like that
353 2011-01-09T02:34:45 <DPini> izibi: thank you
354 2011-01-09T02:34:50 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: atm they're above it
355 2011-01-09T02:35:03 <ThomasWaldmann> then that's wrong also :D
356 2011-01-09T02:35:59 <izibi> {% block header %} {{ super() }} {{ editbar }}
357 2011-01-09T02:35:59 <izibi> {% endblock %}
358 2011-01-09T02:36:08 <izibi> i think we need some new blocks :D
359 2011-01-09T02:37:08 <izibi> btw: wtf?
360 2011-01-09T02:37:10 <izibi> <div id="moin-pageline">
361 2011-01-09T02:37:10 <izibi> <hr style="display:none;" />
362 2011-01-09T02:37:10 <izibi> </div>
363 2011-01-09T02:42:10 <izibi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/Bildschirmfoto%20-%2009.01.2011%20-%2002:41:09.png
364 2011-01-09T02:42:22 <izibi> i don't like the hint style. where are these icons from?
365 2011-01-09T02:43:31 <ThomasWaldmann> no idea, but iirc we also use them as content icons (aka smileys)
366 2011-01-09T02:44:00 <ThomasWaldmann> try /!\ (!) {X}
367 2011-01-09T02:45:28 <izibi> oh, then i think i better move them back :D
368 2011-01-09T02:49:32 <izibi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/Bildschirmfoto%20-%2009.01.2011%20-%2002:48:32.png
369 2011-01-09T02:49:35 <izibi> looks better
370 2011-01-09T02:50:01 <izibi> maybe make the warnings a bit yellow and the errors a bit red?
371 2011-01-09T03:00:01 <izibi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/Bildschirmfoto%20-%2009.01.2011%20-%2002:59:07.png what do you think?
372 2011-01-09T03:00:51 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, nice!
373 2011-01-09T03:02:20 <izibi> do you notice any difference in the background colors of hint and info?
374 2011-01-09T03:03:42 <DPini> If I correct a fuzzy translation, I have to remove fuzzy from the comment?
375 2011-01-09T03:03:53 <izibi> yes
376 2011-01-09T03:04:04 <DPini> izibi: ok, ty
377 2011-01-09T03:04:33 <cosmos_thought> back
378 2011-01-09T03:08:19 <ThomasWaldmann> wb cosmos_thought
379 2011-01-09T03:10:29 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: btw, it is just enough for 2 easy tasks :)
380 2011-01-09T03:11:59 <DPini> what? Sorry I dont understand you :(
381 2011-01-09T03:12:19 <DPini> what is enough? :P
382 2011-01-09T03:12:38 <ThomasWaldmann> 131+274 = 405 ~= 2 * 200
383 2011-01-09T03:13:06 <ThomasWaldmann> the amount of fuzzy + untranslated
384 2011-01-09T03:13:24 <DPini> I know it
385 2011-01-09T03:13:25 <DPini> :P
386 2011-01-09T03:14:00 <DPini> I will translate about 200 strings :S
387 2011-01-09T03:14:08 <DPini> I have no time if I want to finish the task :P
388 2011-01-09T03:15:12 <DPini> because in the next version all translations will start over, or not?
389 2011-01-09T03:15:30 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0-dev/changeset/dcf58732ccaa
390 2011-01-09T03:17:05 <izibi> submitted to melange
391 2011-01-09T03:18:02 <DPini> or probably
392 2011-01-09T03:18:06 <DPini> if I have time
393 2011-01-09T03:18:10 <DPini> I translate all I can :D
394 2011-01-09T03:24:54 <izibi> was the openid stuff already pushed to the repository? cant find it
395 2011-01-09T03:26:44 *** cosmos_t1ought
396 2011-01-09T03:30:09 *** cosmos_thought
397 2011-01-09T03:33:32 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: moin2 is rather different. if we're lucky a few strings might match, but many not.
398 2011-01-09T03:33:45 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: ok
399 2011-01-09T03:34:08 <DPini> I will try to translate as much strings as I can
400 2011-01-09T03:34:12 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: merge problems with openid
401 2011-01-09T03:34:19 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: great :)
402 2011-01-09T03:34:51 <DPini> I have discovered GCI this week
403 2011-01-09T03:35:16 <DPini> I can do a lot of tasks before the GCI finishes
404 2011-01-09T03:35:25 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: make it a task? xD
405 2011-01-09T03:35:45 <DPini> and I think that this will be the last one, so let's do it as best as I can :)
406 2011-01-09T03:38:45 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: little bit more left margin so the icon aligns with other stuff?
407 2011-01-09T03:39:34 <izibi> other stuff == editbar?
408 2011-01-09T03:39:34 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you'll at least get a t-shirt :)
409 2011-01-09T03:39:46 <DPini> this is the 3rd task :D
410 2011-01-09T03:40:00 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: navibar, logo, content
411 2011-01-09T03:40:10 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I have completed other 2 tasks :D
412 2011-01-09T03:40:36 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: + 100 usd then soon :)
413 2011-01-09T03:40:49 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I have a question about MoinMoin: Its built using some python web freamwork?
414 2011-01-09T03:41:04 <DPini> as django or webpy?*
415 2011-01-09T03:41:26 <izibi> DPini: flask
416 2011-01-09T03:41:52 <ThomasWaldmann> moin1: no, homebrew. moin2: yes, flask/werkzeug/jinja2/....
417 2011-01-09T03:41:56 <DPini> izibi: ty, I have not heard about flask
418 2011-01-09T03:42:17 <ThomasWaldmann> it's pretty cool. :)
419 2011-01-09T03:42:21 <DPini> :)
420 2011-01-09T03:42:46 <DPini> well, I have tried to learn python, but arrenge it :(
421 2011-01-09T03:42:58 <DPini> arrange*
422 2011-01-09T03:43:23 <ThomasWaldmann> i didn't understand the arrange part.
423 2011-01-09T03:43:49 <DPini> achived
424 2011-01-09T03:44:01 <DPini> I dont know the english word for say it :P
425 2011-01-09T03:44:15 <DPini> and Im using google translator
426 2011-01-09T03:45:26 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: they don't match
427 2011-01-09T03:45:44 <izibi> logo: 10px, navbar: 12px, content: 20px
428 2011-01-09T03:45:48 <ThomasWaldmann> google translate output sometimes is more confusing than a manual bad translation
429 2011-01-09T03:46:16 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: maybe 16px then?
430 2011-01-09T03:46:28 <ThomasWaldmann> currently it hangs out to the left somehow
431 2011-01-09T03:46:59 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Im using it as dictionary translating one word :P
432 2011-01-09T03:47:25 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: if you want to learn python, just retry. python is rather easy, so if you do some tutorial and get some practice, it'll work out.
433 2011-01-09T03:47:40 <ThomasWaldmann> you can have lots of practice with moin, btw. :D
434 2011-01-09T03:47:58 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I dont understand he class object stuff :P
435 2011-01-09T03:48:11 <DPini> S/he/the
436 2011-01-09T03:49:34 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: btw, if one just click onto "Login" link at the top, there is some strange line between lower content border effect and MoinMoin powered
437 2011-01-09T03:50:17 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/Bildschirmfoto%20-%2009.01.2011%20-%2003:49:16.png works for me
438 2011-01-09T03:50:44 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: can you make a screenshot?
439 2011-01-09T03:50:49 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: you don't necessarily need to use OO design with python (but it is preferable for some stuff)
440 2011-01-09T03:51:00 <izibi> don't see any strange lines
441 2011-01-09T03:51:11 <DPini> because this I want to learn OO design :P
442 2011-01-09T03:51:33 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: much better :)
443 2011-01-09T03:54:21 <cryptw> fffffffff i just did a new screencast but the recorder screwed up
444 2011-01-09T03:54:33 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4532/screenshotfkn.png
445 2011-01-09T03:54:50 <ThomasWaldmann> see directly above MoinMoin powered
446 2011-01-09T03:54:54 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: committed and pushed
447 2011-01-09T03:55:16 <izibi> wtf? i don't see these shadows
448 2011-01-09T03:57:15 <ThomasWaldmann> ff4 :)
449 2011-01-09T03:57:28 <izibi> chromium 8
450 2011-01-09T03:57:41 <izibi> where are these defined in the css?
451 2011-01-09T03:57:51 <ThomasWaldmann> cryptw: bad luck :|
452 2011-01-09T03:57:59 <izibi> ah, screen.css
453 2011-01-09T03:58:02 <cryptw> oh well. guess i'll just do it again
454 2011-01-09T03:58:17 <cryptw> turns out i had some codec setting or something wrong
455 2011-01-09T03:58:26 <izibi> let's check the css
456 2011-01-09T03:58:43 <DPini> cryptw: What screencasting software do you use?
457 2011-01-09T03:59:01 <cryptw> camstudio
458 2011-01-09T03:59:36 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10239:dcf58732ccaa 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Moved the flash messages below the editbar and made them look nicer.
459 2011-01-09T03:59:38 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10240:23476ecff355 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/common.css: Increased left padding of flash messages.
460 2011-01-09T04:01:37 * ThomasWaldmann has no clue about video stuff, so can't help much.
461 2011-01-09T04:04:42 <izibi> i don't understand this stupid shadow syntax
462 2011-01-09T04:05:44 <izibi> they don't look that nice anyway :P
463 2011-01-09T04:07:05 * ThomasWaldmann injected more easy bugfix tasks
464 2011-01-09T04:08:42 <izibi> is this also an easy bugfix? xD
465 2011-01-09T04:11:59 <izibi> -webkit-box-shadow: inset 1px 1px 33px -11px black; looks like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/92247/Bildschirmfoto%20-%2009.01.2011%20-%2004:11:03.png
466 2011-01-09T04:13:24 <ThomasWaldmann> less shadow? we could do that, but it's rather matter of taste than bug. :)
467 2011-01-09T04:13:49 *** Trip__
468 2011-01-09T04:14:08 <izibi> well this are the same parameters as for gecko but it looks very different
469 2011-01-09T04:14:37 <izibi> bugfix: fixing the spacing at the bottom and the shadow in webkit ;)
470 2011-01-09T04:18:18 <cryptw> ok, screencast recorded properly this time
471 2011-01-09T04:18:22 <cryptw> prepare for another round of lol
472 2011-01-09T04:18:54 <cryptw> cool, i only took 12 minutes this time
473 2011-01-09T04:20:22 * ThomasWaldmann prepares for a round of sleep :)
474 2011-01-09T04:22:10 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0-dev/changeset/d4fcae360696
475 2011-01-09T04:22:27 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: How many time do you need for check the translation when I send it?
476 2011-01-09T04:23:27 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: me too in a hours, here in Spain is 04:23 :P
477 2011-01-09T04:23:33 <DPini> 04:23 AM*
478 2011-01-09T04:24:48 <izibi> gn ThomasWaldmann
479 2011-01-09T04:27:06 <izibi> cryptw: how long do you need for uploading?
480 2011-01-09T04:27:55 <cryptw> it encodes at like
481 2011-01-09T04:27:57 <cryptw> below realtime
482 2011-01-09T04:28:01 <cryptw> then i upload at 100 kB/s
483 2011-01-09T04:28:29 <izibi> when can i watch it? if it takes too long, i'll go to bed now ;)
484 2011-01-09T04:28:44 <cryptw> let me calculate
485 2011-01-09T04:28:58 <cryptw> 8.370977266017124 minutes
486 2011-01-09T04:29:05 <izibi> ;)
487 2011-01-09T04:29:24 <izibi> i just wanted an approximation. like 10min or 2h ;)
488 2011-01-09T04:31:18 <cryptw> yeh, i just didn't bother rounding
489 2011-01-09T04:31:19 <cryptw> ;)
490 2011-01-09T04:31:37 <cryptw> since that isn't really exact
491 2011-01-09T04:36:30 <cryptw> almost done...
492 2011-01-09T04:36:34 <cryptw> about a thousand more frames
493 2011-01-09T04:39:00 <cryptw> uploading
494 2011-01-09T04:39:58 <izibi> need 2 more tasks :D
495 2011-01-09T04:40:25 <cryptw> http://slardar.cryptwizard.info/~cryptw/moinmoin/screencast2-muxed.mkv
496 2011-01-09T04:40:56 <cryptw> for how many $$$?
497 2011-01-09T04:45:30 <izibi> 300
498 2011-01-09T04:45:35 <izibi> so let's take a look
499 2011-01-09T04:46:10 <izibi> much better image quality :D
500 2011-01-09T04:50:37 <izibi> maybe cut out the time you wait for clone?
501 2011-01-09T04:52:53 <izibi> text is a bit hard to read
502 2011-01-09T04:56:56 <cryptw> yeh
503 2011-01-09T04:57:04 <cryptw> if the actual content is fine
504 2011-01-09T04:57:08 <cryptw> i'll do a high quality encode
505 2011-01-09T04:58:43 <cryptw> izibi: do you interpret the rules as saying the first task counts toward the 3 tasks/$100?
506 2011-01-09T05:01:03 <izibi> yes
507 2011-01-09T05:01:24 <izibi> you'll get $100 for every 3 tasks
508 2011-01-09T05:01:26 <cryptw> ok, good
509 2011-01-09T05:01:32 <izibi> and an additional tshirt for the first
510 2011-01-09T05:02:20 <izibi> hg log and hg tip may be important to know
511 2011-01-09T05:02:35 <izibi> instead of always going to bitbucket ;)
512 2011-01-09T05:02:49 <cryptw> lol i love bitbucket
513 2011-01-09T05:03:07 <cryptw> there's a collection of random code on my bitbucket
514 2011-01-09T05:03:15 <cryptw> but all i ever use is commit and push
515 2011-01-09T05:03:23 <cryptw> since i haven't needed to do anything fancy before
516 2011-01-09T05:05:17 <cryptw> oh yeh that reminds me, i need to like commit some code before my hard drive crashes or something
517 2011-01-09T05:08:59 <DPini> I have to translate this msgid "HelpOnUpdatingPython" textually
518 2011-01-09T05:09:15 <DPini> or I should copy it with the same name in english?
519 2011-01-09T05:09:59 <cryptw> i have about 8 more hours today and some small part of tomorrow
520 2011-01-09T05:10:20 <cryptw> i wonder if i can get this screencast accepted and do another one
521 2011-01-09T05:11:11 <izibi> DPini: this is likely to be a link to some page. if there is a translated version of this page, link to that one, otherwise leave the english version
522 2011-01-09T05:11:42 <DPini> Im translating the Po file
523 2011-01-09T05:11:42 <izibi> at least this is how it was done for the other translations. but better ask a mentor ;)
524 2011-01-09T05:12:04 <DPini> there are no mentors on the chat now?
525 2011-01-09T05:13:12 <izibi> nope
526 2011-01-09T05:14:17 <DPini> :S
527 2011-01-09T05:14:25 <DPini> I think I should translate it
528 2011-01-09T05:14:37 <DPini> its the "shorted" name of a page
529 2011-01-09T05:14:56 <DPini> if it should not be translated, this will not be in the po file :P
530 2011-01-09T05:19:44 <izibi> i think i'll look at some more bugs ;)
531 2011-01-09T05:21:30 <izibi> no sleep for me tonight? :D
532 2011-01-09T05:21:40 <DPini> me too
533 2011-01-09T05:21:44 <DPini> here 05:21
534 2011-01-09T05:21:56 <DPini> what is the time for you izibi?
535 2011-01-09T05:22:04 <izibi> same here ;)
536 2011-01-09T05:22:16 <DPini> where are u from?
537 2011-01-09T05:22:23 <DPini> wait
538 2011-01-09T05:22:23 <izibi> germany
539 2011-01-09T05:39:05 *** Trip__
540 2011-01-09T05:39:22 *** rfw
541 2011-01-09T05:43:03 <cryptw> what timezone are the mentors in?
542 2011-01-09T05:47:36 <cosmos_t1ought> ThomasWaldmann: I think im done with getting into sphinx but now it would be nice if you can give me a little explantion of what you exactly mean with this: http://www.moinmo.in/EasyToDo/sphinx%20code%20doc%20styleguide... i mean does it even matter what code in _template.py stands?
543 2011-01-09T05:49:11 <izibi> cryptw: i think they're all from germany. so UTC+1 (6am atm)
544 2011-01-09T05:49:37 <cryptw> and he only went to sleep an hour ago
545 2011-01-09T05:49:39 <cryptw> :3
546 2011-01-09T05:54:18 *** rfw
547 2011-01-09T06:15:51 <cosmos_t1ought> hey im from germany to but im aint sleeping ;)
548 2011-01-09T06:39:02 *** kursor
549 2011-01-09T07:22:14 <cosmos_t1ought> but suddenly everything aroundme seems to sleep XD
550 2011-01-09T07:26:32 *** TheSheep
551 2011-01-09T07:28:36 *** TheSheep
552 2011-01-09T07:43:17 *** cosmos_t1ought
553 2011-01-09T07:50:14 <izibi> is it ok if i fix my own bugs as a gci task? :D
554 2011-01-09T08:05:47 *** rfw
555 2011-01-09T08:19:28 *** rfw
556 2011-01-09T08:19:28 *** rfw
557 2011-01-09T08:43:53 <cryptw> not if you caused the bug yourself :p
558 2011-01-09T08:52:06 *** DPini
559 2011-01-09T08:52:51 *** izibi_
560 2011-01-09T08:53:34 <izibi_> cryptw: ok, than it was someone else :D
561 2011-01-09T08:53:46 <cryptw> probably
562 2011-01-09T08:55:09 <izibi_> there's some weird bug but i can't reproduce it :(
563 2011-01-09T08:55:33 <izibi_> but the same thing happened on 2 independent moin installations
564 2011-01-09T08:56:14 *** izibi
565 2011-01-09T08:56:21 *** izibi_
566 2011-01-09T09:04:07 <izibi> ah ok, now i have reproduced it. now it's time to find out what's happening
567 2011-01-09T09:16:33 <dreimark> moin
568 2011-01-09T09:17:17 <dreimark> DPini should not translate page names
569 2011-01-09T09:17:53 <dreimark> if he will work on a translation of such a page he can translate the page name
570 2011-01-09T09:20:28 <dreimark> cosmos_thought: in _template.py is no code, there should be comments which explain what has to be added to a new py file
571 2011-01-09T09:20:43 <dreimark> also it should tell how to set various strings
572 2011-01-09T09:28:33 <izibi> moin dreimark
573 2011-01-09T09:31:20 <izibi> dreimark: i need some information on what's going on
574 2011-01-09T09:31:56 <izibi> i get a NoSuchRevisionError exception on pages like for expample /+backrefs/...
575 2011-01-09T09:33:10 <izibi> that always happens after creating a new user because this generates an item with a name based on the current time and a random number
576 2011-01-09T09:33:32 <izibi> and if some views try to get the latest revision of it as they iterate over all items
577 2011-01-09T09:33:44 <izibi> they'll get this NoSuchRevisionError exception
578 2011-01-09T09:36:04 <izibi> so multiple views fail if there are items without revisions
579 2011-01-09T09:38:59 <izibi> and how can this be avoided? does the storage support requesting a list of items that have revisions?
580 2011-01-09T09:39:19 <dreimark> izibi: is this with current code ?
581 2011-01-09T09:39:25 <dreimark> i try to reproduce
582 2011-01-09T09:39:31 *** NikitaUtiu
583 2011-01-09T09:39:40 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: hi
584 2011-01-09T09:39:50 <NikitaUtiu> hi
585 2011-01-09T09:40:06 <izibi> dreimark: moin-2.0-dev tip
586 2011-01-09T09:40:12 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: has some merging problems, but i guess he is not awake yet
587 2011-01-09T09:40:25 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: we added another openid task too
588 2011-01-09T09:40:32 <izibi> dreimark: create a user and go to /+backrefs/somepage
589 2011-01-09T09:40:33 <dreimark> if you want :)
590 2011-01-09T09:40:38 <NikitaUtiu> ok
591 2011-01-09T09:40:47 <NikitaUtiu> about trtusted providers ?
592 2011-01-09T09:40:51 <dreimark> yes
593 2011-01-09T09:41:04 <dreimark> we can have afterwards another one too
594 2011-01-09T09:41:13 <izibi> dreimark: i was able to reproduce this on 3 independent installations. one was a fresh clone
595 2011-01-09T09:41:18 <NikitaUtiu> i've done that, i just need a merge and i'm ready :D
596 2011-01-09T09:41:34 <dreimark> and a claim :)
597 2011-01-09T09:41:41 <izibi> i'll claim one of the fix bug tasks for that
598 2011-01-09T09:42:04 <dreimark> izibi: one moment
599 2011-01-09T09:42:25 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/OpenID%20Create%20User%20Profile that can be another one
600 2011-01-09T09:42:44 <dreimark> izibi: i start with a clean wiki dir
601 2011-01-09T09:45:38 <dreimark> izibi: ok reproduced
602 2011-01-09T09:47:01 <dreimark> i can not help much in that field. besides i can give some informations
603 2011-01-09T09:47:31 <dreimark> a user is implemented that way that it does not have revisions like other items
604 2011-01-09T09:48:16 <izibi> the simplest solution would just be a simple try/except
605 2011-01-09T09:48:27 <dreimark> yes
606 2011-01-09T09:48:43 <dreimark> and may be a TODO if
607 2011-01-09T09:48:58 <dreimark> there might be a better one
608 2011-01-09T09:49:10 <dreimark> but then you need to wait for ThomasWaldmann
609 2011-01-09T09:51:04 <NikitaUtiu> merging is horrible D:
610 2011-01-09T09:51:08 <izibi> another would be if not storage._list_revisions(item): continue
611 2011-01-09T09:52:36 <dreimark> i would prefer that it is a user item can be verified
612 2011-01-09T09:52:48 <dreimark> otherwise it continues on other bugs too
613 2011-01-09T09:53:27 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: ThomasWaldmann told too
614 2011-01-09T09:53:56 <NikitaUtiu> i should merge more often
615 2011-01-09T09:54:05 <dreimark> yeah yeah :)
616 2011-01-09T09:58:36 <izibi> we all love merging ;)
617 2011-01-09T10:00:01 <izibi> omg. no more club mate. we're all going to die! :D
618 2011-01-09T10:07:11 <NikitaUtiu> merged:D
619 2011-01-09T10:07:39 <izibi> congratulations ;)
620 2011-01-09T10:08:13 <dreimark> :)
621 2011-01-09T10:09:32 * dreimark works on a python bar camp in cologne from 16. to 17. april
622 2011-01-09T10:09:58 <NikitaUtiu> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317497/ this is the trusted providers stuff
623 2011-01-09T10:11:40 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: you tried it ?
624 2011-01-09T10:11:59 <NikitaUtiu> yes
625 2011-01-09T10:12:28 <NikitaUtiu> i could restrict the providers to google profiles only
626 2011-01-09T10:13:05 <dreimark> add a syntax example to the snippet please
627 2011-01-09T10:13:44 <cosmos_thought> dreimark: you mean in _template.py are only comments wich discribes how a new "module" or whatever has to look like? i mean like the PEP stuff?
628 2011-01-09T10:17:58 <dreimark> cosmos_thought: i don't find the clame, url of description please
629 2011-01-09T10:18:39 <dreimark> if i remember right you have to add to the _template examples which are used then in description for all other py modules
630 2011-01-09T10:19:10 <dreimark> because after your task a follow up is to refactor all code to make it sphinx compatible
631 2011-01-09T10:20:25 <dreimark> if it is this http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129098518156
632 2011-01-09T10:21:34 <dreimark> the template should hold all example of how to describe stuff
633 2011-01-09T10:22:15 <dreimark> part a) design the style guide
634 2011-01-09T10:22:35 <dreimark> part b) use aour own styleguide, demonstrate that it is good
635 2011-01-09T10:22:43 <dreimark> in lessor words
636 2011-01-09T10:23:04 *** cosmos_t1ought
637 2011-01-09T10:23:08 <cosmos_t1ought> back
638 2011-01-09T10:23:55 <cosmos_t1ought> accedently closed my main irc window...
639 2011-01-09T10:24:15 <cosmos_t1ought> dreimark: i meant this one: http://www.moinmo.in/EasyToDo/sphinx%20code%20doc%20styleguide
640 2011-01-09T10:27:19 <dreimark> cosmos_t1ought: have you seen my comments from 10:17 to 10:23 ?
641 2011-01-09T10:27:55 <NikitaUtiu> dreimark: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317501/ is it good?
642 2011-01-09T10:28:20 *** Trip__
643 2011-01-09T10:29:03 <dreimark> :)
644 2011-01-09T10:30:27 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: i fetch a new clone from your repo, i guess i messed something up
645 2011-01-09T10:30:28 <izibi> flash sucks...
646 2011-01-09T10:30:45 <dreimark> i see a few hundred info icons
647 2011-01-09T10:30:47 <NikitaUtiu> wait, haven't pushed them
648 2011-01-09T10:31:54 <NikitaUtiu> now it's good
649 2011-01-09T10:47:58 <dreimark> cosmos_t1ought: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-01-09#CA-67027fd0f7b32c856f8a094e078aec98718a02a6_628
650 2011-01-09T10:48:24 <dreimark> cryptw: about the video
651 2011-01-09T10:48:34 <dreimark> there is some noise in the background
652 2011-01-09T10:48:42 <cryptw> yeh, crap microphone
653 2011-01-09T10:48:43 <dreimark> the fonts can be larger
654 2011-01-09T10:48:57 <dreimark> if you work on a linux system
655 2011-01-09T10:49:05 <dreimark> install software by sudo
656 2011-01-09T10:49:12 <dreimark> this is the common way
657 2011-01-09T10:49:22 <dreimark> sudo apt-get install mercurial
658 2011-01-09T10:49:51 <dreimark> also don't change to a user by su username from root, this is uncommon and problematic
659 2011-01-09T10:50:04 <cryptw> yeh, for some reason i never caught onto the sudo thing, mainly because of problems with environment variables
660 2011-01-09T10:50:05 <dreimark> because it has nothing to do with the given task
661 2011-01-09T10:50:10 <cryptw> oh, ok
662 2011-01-09T10:50:53 <dreimark> if you cut off the time for the cloning, you can add a slide at that position
663 2011-01-09T10:51:48 <dreimark> which can explain in words, bandwith for faster speed, amount of MB the project is about etc.
664 2011-01-09T10:52:01 <izibi> how shall items with no revisions be handled in the orphans view?
665 2011-01-09T10:52:03 <dreimark> so that people not wonder why you get it in seconds
666 2011-01-09T10:52:34 <dreimark> izibi: users should not be shown there, are there others?
667 2011-01-09T10:53:14 <dreimark> cryptw: is this a linux virtual machine ? with X ?
668 2011-01-09T10:53:29 <cryptw> dreimark: no, i haven't got X on it
669 2011-01-09T10:53:58 <dreimark> why not?
670 2011-01-09T10:54:00 <cryptw> it's a VPS that rent from some provider
671 2011-01-09T10:54:12 <cryptw> mainly used for other stuff
672 2011-01-09T10:54:31 <dreimark> cryptw: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
673 2011-01-09T10:54:38 <dreimark> you know that ^
674 2011-01-09T10:54:54 <cryptw> yeh, i've got a box somewhere that has X on it
675 2011-01-09T10:55:17 <cryptw> but usually the only thing i do with a linux GUI is open a console :3
676 2011-01-09T10:55:35 <izibi> dreimark: i don't know if there can be non-user items that have no revisions
677 2011-01-09T10:55:37 <dreimark> me too, and from that i start all my x programs,
678 2011-01-09T10:55:53 <izibi> i haven't seen any yet but that doesn't mean anything
679 2011-01-09T10:56:17 <dreimark> izibi: for now: if they would appear it is a bug
680 2011-01-09T10:56:45 <izibi> who uses sudo? :P
681 2011-01-09T10:56:58 <dreimark> give a logging message don't ignore
682 2011-01-09T10:57:28 <cryptw> izibi: i think like all the ubuntu people
683 2011-01-09T10:57:49 <dreimark> izibi: you avoid to be logged in all the time as root
684 2011-01-09T10:58:10 <dreimark> also you can give only some commands to some users by configuring it
685 2011-01-09T10:58:28 <dreimark> i used it on several distros already
686 2011-01-09T10:58:40 <dreimark> one part i like is that it logs what is done
687 2011-01-09T10:58:41 <cryptw> i think the gives some commands thing gives a false sense of security
688 2011-01-09T10:58:50 <dreimark> in a company that is important
689 2011-01-09T10:58:51 <izibi> and su works perfectly fine ;)
690 2011-01-09T10:58:58 <cryptw> the logging is a plus
691 2011-01-09T10:59:04 <cryptw> but anyone with sudo access could easily delete the log
692 2011-01-09T10:59:23 <dreimark> cryptw: depends on your syslog definition
693 2011-01-09T10:59:42 <cryptw> yeh true. they couldn't delete a remote log
694 2011-01-09T10:59:58 <cryptw> i've never gotten around to trying remote logging
695 2011-01-09T11:00:21 <dreimark> and also it is good to lookup something yourself it did not behave like it should
696 2011-01-09T11:01:01 <dreimark> izibi: the task is about using mercurial not focused on how to use su etc.
697 2011-01-09T11:01:37 <izibi> yeah of course
698 2011-01-09T11:01:41 <dreimark> izibi: su or sux are nice too. I often have to use both
699 2011-01-09T11:02:30 <dreimark> btw. if you work remote never don't do it without screen
700 2011-01-09T11:03:06 <cryptw> i have screen running on a reliable server
701 2011-01-09T11:03:15 <cryptw> then i use multiple screen windows to ssh out to all my other servers
702 2011-01-09T11:03:22 <dreimark> cryptw: you don't need it for the task
703 2011-01-09T11:03:32 <cryptw> lol
704 2011-01-09T11:03:44 <dreimark> cryptw: i use it also for irc, irssi runs perfectly in it
705 2011-01-09T11:04:45 <dreimark> cryptw: btw. setup .hgrc early for defining your name
706 2011-01-09T11:07:17 <dreimark> ok, seen good place
707 2011-01-09T11:08:08 <dreimark> cryptw: but use a better username as mointest on the linux if possible
708 2011-01-09T11:09:27 <dreimark> cryptw: speak a bit slower
709 2011-01-09T11:09:53 <cryptw> ok, i'll keep all that in mind
710 2011-01-09T11:10:17 <dreimark> thx
711 2011-01-09T11:10:36 <cryptw> are there any more suggestions for the stuff i actually did in the video?
712 2011-01-09T11:10:48 <dreimark> the problem with speed is that noone could say slow down a bit after it is done
713 2011-01-09T11:11:10 <cryptw> heh
714 2011-01-09T11:11:39 *** rfw
715 2011-01-09T11:12:39 <dreimark> do you have hg log, hg stat, hg add explained ?
716 2011-01-09T11:13:37 <dreimark> at the beginning you need a slide similiar to the patch screencast
717 2011-01-09T11:13:52 <dreimark> at the end i would suggest to add also one
718 2011-01-09T11:14:26 <dreimark> with giving links to moin, moins repo, and mercurial documentation
719 2011-01-09T11:19:23 <izibi> dreimark: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317512/
720 2011-01-09T11:23:59 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: can the rejection happen before the openid provider becomes asked to validate?
721 2011-01-09T11:24:28 <dreimark> currently if i restrict to use google id only and give my launchpad id
722 2011-01-09T11:24:37 <dreimark> it sents me to launchpad
723 2011-01-09T11:24:55 <NikitaUtiu> that's forced service not trusted provider
724 2011-01-09T11:25:13 <dreimark> yes
725 2011-01-09T11:25:24 <NikitaUtiu> you said trusted providers :)
726 2011-01-09T11:25:41 <dreimark> ok, may be i have a different understanding
727 2011-01-09T11:25:42 <NikitaUtiu> and i don't think it is possible to get the server's url before
728 2011-01-09T11:26:15 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: you have it in the openID form
729 2011-01-09T11:26:34 <dreimark> or is that a different one
730 2011-01-09T11:27:04 <NikitaUtiu> well the proper server_url is returned by the oid_response
731 2011-01-09T11:27:22 <dreimark> ok
732 2011-01-09T11:27:47 <dreimark> accepted
733 2011-01-09T11:28:25 <NikitaUtiu> forced server can be implemented just as easily
734 2011-01-09T11:29:50 <NikitaUtiu> but i think this one could also come in handy :D
735 2011-01-09T11:30:02 <cryptw> i don't get the point of openid at all
736 2011-01-09T11:30:18 <cryptw> it seems like just some novelty that some guy created because "hey it's web 2.0"
737 2011-01-09T11:30:58 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: waked up ?
738 2011-01-09T11:31:04 <NikitaUtiu> it's not very useful that's true, but you need only one account to manage
739 2011-01-09T11:31:16 <cryptw> 99% of sites that "support" openid
740 2011-01-09T11:31:25 <cryptw> then require you to register a proper account
741 2011-01-09T11:31:36 <cryptw> to be able to access anything more than 5% of their functionality
742 2011-01-09T11:32:11 <dreimark> cryptw: it solves a lot of issues with sso
743 2011-01-09T11:32:19 <NikitaUtiu> actually most of them require registration just to be able to the stuff you couldn't do anonymously
744 2011-01-09T11:32:33 <dreimark> because you have only to absolute trust one app
745 2011-01-09T11:32:40 <cryptw> i guess if you were using it internally in your organisation and you had full control over everything
746 2011-01-09T11:32:46 <cryptw> then the STANDARD might come in useful
747 2011-01-09T11:33:41 <dreimark> cryptw: if you for example have a ldap database
748 2011-01-09T11:33:44 <NikitaUtiu> and i guess it's pretty vulnerable, if somebody get's your oid's password, it can login on differentsites
749 2011-01-09T11:33:45 <cryptw> but in terms of "hey, i can use my facebook to login to my launchpad"
750 2011-01-09T11:33:46 <dreimark> for sso
751 2011-01-09T11:33:59 <NikitaUtiu> *he
752 2011-01-09T11:34:10 <dreimark> then you have to trust on default to every server using your credential on default
753 2011-01-09T11:35:26 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: that's why trusted sites are so important
754 2011-01-09T11:36:32 <NikitaUtiu> well yes
755 2011-01-09T11:36:51 <NikitaUtiu> but you're just trying to make an insecure service secure
756 2011-01-09T11:37:30 <dreimark> from that point of view everythin is insecure
757 2011-01-09T11:37:39 <dreimark> e.g. the maintainer of ldap
758 2011-01-09T11:37:48 <dreimark> the maintainer of shadow
759 2011-01-09T11:37:55 <dreimark> the one maintaining the web app
760 2011-01-09T11:38:30 <NikitaUtiu> yes, that's true, anyone who hosts a site which you have registered on is a potential identity thief
761 2011-01-09T11:38:33 <dreimark> you don't enter your passwords encrypted
762 2011-01-09T11:39:26 <dreimark> what i like on openid is, that i can use it for minimizing this mechanism
763 2011-01-09T11:39:32 <dreimark> s
764 2011-01-09T11:39:59 <dreimark> for example i dislike to use ldap for web apps, but sometimes i am forced to use it
765 2011-01-09T11:40:14 <cryptw> umm
766 2011-01-09T11:40:17 <cryptw> there's something i want to paste
767 2011-01-09T11:40:18 <cryptw> just a sec
768 2011-01-09T11:40:28 <cryptw> http://xkcd.com/792/
769 2011-01-09T11:41:39 <dreimark> yeah, use pwgen and rely on good password recovery methods
770 2011-01-09T11:43:11 <NikitaUtiu> but let's be honest, how many of use use pwgen ?
771 2011-01-09T11:43:24 <cryptw> i just tier my passwords
772 2011-01-09T11:43:32 <cryptw> each super important thing gets their own password
773 2011-01-09T11:43:43 <cryptw> then a bunch of semi-important stuff gets a password
774 2011-01-09T11:43:56 <cryptw> then trash that i totally don't give a shit about like facebook et al gets a password
775 2011-01-09T11:44:08 <cryptw> of course root passwords to my servers are all generated
776 2011-01-09T11:45:42 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: usually geeks more than users
777 2011-01-09T11:46:32 <NikitaUtiu> normal users don't like to bother with managing passwords
778 2011-01-09T11:46:47 <dreimark> and it becomes also complicated as older you are and how often you have to change many passwords
779 2011-01-09T11:47:13 <cryptw> most of the lay-computer-users i know have passwords involving some permutation of aaaaa asdf or 123456
780 2011-01-09T11:48:39 <NikitaUtiu> but that's good, most of the passwords are strong enough not to be guessed, as xkcd says, it's reuse that is the problem
781 2011-01-09T11:57:00 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
782 2011-01-09T11:57:43 <izibi> moin ThomasWaldmann
783 2011-01-09T12:06:25 <cosmos_t1ought> moin ThomasWaldmann
784 2011-01-09T12:09:56 *** TripleEntendre
785 2011-01-09T12:09:56 *** aa_
786 2011-01-09T12:09:57 *** ronny
787 2011-01-09T12:10:47 *** cosmos_t1ought
788 2011-01-09T12:11:50 *** ronny
789 2011-01-09T12:11:58 *** TripleEntendre
790 2011-01-09T12:11:58 *** aa_
791 2011-01-09T12:12:47 *** cosmos_t1ought
792 2011-01-09T12:12:49 <cosmos_t1ought> back
793 2011-01-09T12:17:25 <cosmos_t1ought> ThomasWaldmann: Whats it about that _template.py styleguide file here is talked about: http://www.moinmo.in/EasyToDo/sphinx%20code%20doc%20styleguide i mean what do i have to imagine what comes in there?
794 2011-01-09T12:18:17 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: send something into melange so i can accept
795 2011-01-09T12:18:24 <NikitaUtiu> ah ok
796 2011-01-09T12:19:35 <NikitaUtiu> so, it's good as it is?
797 2011-01-09T12:22:03 <dreimark> yes
798 2011-01-09T12:22:56 <NikitaUtiu> and from now on i shall never forget to merge before i start :D
799 2011-01-09T12:24:00 <ThomasWaldmann> cosmos_t1ought: it is just some demonstration document for those unfamiliar with rst and sphinx
800 2011-01-09T12:24:26 <ThomasWaldmann> if it would be rather general, it could be included with sphinx
801 2011-01-09T12:26:17 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129457182874
802 2011-01-09T12:26:40 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: NikitaUtiu has merged main
803 2011-01-09T12:27:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, great
804 2011-01-09T12:27:49 * dreimark gets a shower
805 2011-01-09T12:27:53 <ThomasWaldmann> openid was tested afterwards?
806 2011-01-09T12:27:58 <dreimark> yes
807 2011-01-09T12:32:37 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: what do you think of this patch? any better ideas? didn't find something like a "get all items that have revisions" method. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317512/
808 2011-01-09T12:33:45 *** greg_f
809 2011-01-09T12:37:10 *** kursor
810 2011-01-09T12:43:37 <cosmos_t1ought> ThomasWaldmann: You mean i dont have to put something in there if im allready familiar with rst and sphinx. so i can directly start to document the Classes with sphinx? Becouse i thought i had to put something in there i wrote a spam and eggs class and documented it
811 2011-01-09T12:44:08 <izibi> is adding 3 dots enough for an easy bugfix? :D
812 2011-01-09T12:44:44 <ThomasWaldmann> cosmos_t1ought: yeah, spam and eggs or hello world would be nice. or "python for the ncc1701"
813 2011-01-09T12:50:26 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10241:0bcc30e6d65d 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py apps/frontend/views.py auth/handle.py): separated login/logout from the setup_user method
814 2011-01-09T12:50:29 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10242:0f6ac088b68e 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py auth/handle.py): fixed docstring and functionality of handle login
815 2011-01-09T12:50:33 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10243:f065f1e16a93 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: fixed typos
816 2011-01-09T12:50:35 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10244:fae612aa1ffd 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py apps/frontend/views.py auth/handle.py): reverted last three changesets
817 2011-01-09T12:50:38 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10245:1c54f163d6c2 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py auth/__init__.py user.py auth/openid.py): implemented openid authentication
818 2011-01-09T12:50:40 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10246:c34318cc8195 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/ (__init__.py openidrp.py openid.py): renamed openid.py - fixed funtionality
819 2011-01-09T12:50:44 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10247:9b78be6675a7 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py auth/__init__.py): generalised setup_user and handle_login
820 2011-01-09T12:50:47 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10248:2e7aa8da8032 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: added logging and docstrings
821 2011-01-09T12:50:48 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10249:26fee30a6334 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py apps/frontend/views.py): cleaned up login code
822 2011-01-09T12:50:50 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10250:0a6298c3aed5 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): added an openid field to the registration process
823 2011-01-09T12:50:52 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10251:a1331d18f939 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py templates/usersettings.html): openid can be changed from user settings
824 2011-01-09T12:50:54 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10252:29b02d112173 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py: fixed bugs in oid login
825 2011-01-09T12:50:57 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10253:77efdf7d1dfe 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: fixed bugs in oid login
826 2011-01-09T12:50:58 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10254:bada4d53e1d5 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: fixed typos
827 2011-01-09T12:51:00 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10255:b9ab2d26903b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py templates/login.html): added openid login to views
828 2011-01-09T12:51:02 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10256:f3db129da2c8 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py: cleaned up code in handle_login
829 2011-01-09T12:51:03 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10257:8fa2eaea6a8a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py config/default.py): fixed bug in view
830 2011-01-09T12:51:06 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10258:ae55315c2252 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py: merged heads
831 2011-01-09T12:51:08 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10259:4de80f54ac0e 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/config/default.py: removed debug code
832 2011-01-09T12:51:10 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10260:c07e265194fa 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py auth/openidrp.py config/default.py): improved code readability and fixed typos
833 2011-01-09T12:51:12 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10261:39f704cfe879 2.0-dev/docs/examples/config/snippets/auth_wikiconfig_snippet: added openid auth snippet
834 2011-01-09T12:51:23 <izibi> merging! <3
835 2011-01-09T12:51:26 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10262:eb21bea4b0c3 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): improved the aspect of the login
836 2011-01-09T12:51:28 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10263:2c7b92b9a51d 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): reverted last change
837 2011-01-09T12:51:42 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10264:d87374dfb6ea 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (auth/openidrp.py templates/login.html): better multistage redirection
838 2011-01-09T12:51:44 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10265:106490e9c9f6 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: fixed issue with the storing of oid temp data
839 2011-01-09T12:51:46 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10266:a5cd98e95c43 2.0-dev/REQUIREMENTS: added python-openid version to requirements
840 2011-01-09T12:51:48 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10267:4e04c03b9062 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (auth/openidrp.py config/default.py): implemented openid trusted providers option
841 2011-01-09T12:51:52 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10268:9d5fec8ff66a 2.0-dev/ (58 files in 26 dirs): merged
842 2011-01-09T12:51:55 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10269:5b69de14bd14 2.0-dev/docs/examples/config/snippets/auth_wikiconfig_snippet: added auth_oid_tusted example to snippets
843 2011-01-09T12:51:56 <CIA-56> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10270:9438a034c8fa 2.0-dev/ (11 files in 7 dirs): merged
844 2011-01-09T12:55:28 *** jacktheripper
845 2011-01-09T12:57:05 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: ^^ \o/
846 2011-01-09T12:59:33 <ThomasWaldmann> it looks like the login view might need the template calls refactoring again
847 2011-01-09T13:00:08 <jacktheripper> aaannd the countdown started. Need to finish quick!
848 2011-01-09T13:02:55 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, how about unpublishing all difficult tasks?
849 2011-01-09T13:03:38 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317512/ please review :)
850 2011-01-09T13:07:20 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: fine
851 2011-01-09T13:07:30 <ThomasWaldmann> easy bugfix?
852 2011-01-09T13:07:35 <izibi> yes
853 2011-01-09T13:07:41 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
854 2011-01-09T13:12:12 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129454232938
855 2011-01-09T13:13:20 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: we don't know if some student is blocked by melange
856 2011-01-09T13:13:50 <izibi> so which is the last task i'll do for GCI?
857 2011-01-09T13:13:59 <dreimark> but also if did not talked with us yet he likly can't finish one
858 2011-01-09T13:15:05 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10271:d4fcae360696 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/screen.css: Fixed -webkit-box-shadow and spacing in the footer.
859 2011-01-09T13:15:21 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: what do you mean?
860 2011-01-09T13:15:25 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10272:929bd3a8979d 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Backrefs, orphans and wanteds views no longer crash if items without revisions exist.
861 2011-01-09T13:15:32 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10273:f8be7caafc78 2.0-dev/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Merged
862 2011-01-09T13:15:57 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: e.g. the student which currently prepares the screencast for example had not claimed yet
863 2011-01-09T13:16:26 <dreimark> i was refering to the question about difficult tasks
864 2011-01-09T13:16:36 *** grzywacz
865 2011-01-09T13:16:36 *** grzywacz
866 2011-01-09T13:17:41 <dreimark> izibi: how is it with the easy/medium: fix the tzinfo bug for the mercurial storage backend
867 2011-01-09T13:18:01 <dreimark> it is a little bit described on http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo
868 2011-01-09T13:18:47 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: if someone works before claiming, this is not our problem
869 2011-01-09T13:18:54 <dreimark> ok
870 2011-01-09T13:19:02 <ThomasWaldmann> it could also happen that another student claims it
871 2011-01-09T13:19:17 <dreimark> then we can only duplicate the task
872 2011-01-09T13:19:39 <dreimark> and choose the best solution
873 2011-01-09T13:19:54 <dreimark> but that is too much effort
874 2011-01-09T13:19:59 <ThomasWaldmann> also, even if that is the case, he can still talk to us here
875 2011-01-09T13:20:35 <izibi> another (very very small) fix to pull
876 2011-01-09T13:22:49 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ok
877 2011-01-09T13:23:13 <izibi> how do i set up the mercurial storage backend? :D
878 2011-01-09T13:23:26 <dreimark> in wikiconfig.py is an example
879 2011-01-09T13:23:36 <dreimark> needs to replace fs2 by hg
880 2011-01-09T13:23:59 <dreimark> clean the existing wiki
881 2011-01-09T13:24:28 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10274:545599344ba9 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/snippets.html: Fixed url_for call in snippets.html to work in non-frontend views.
882 2011-01-09T13:25:08 <ThomasWaldmann> we could update the gource video after gci :)
883 2011-01-09T13:26:37 <dreimark> izibi: i guess there is only something left over or missing since changing the tzinfo stuff
884 2011-01-09T13:27:18 <dreimark> ronny: is it possible to have tests which iterates all tests by different storage backends?
885 2011-01-09T13:28:46 <ronny> dreimark: you could use generative tests to generate a one iterm per backend for a test
886 2011-01-09T13:34:41 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129454233148
887 2011-01-09T13:38:10 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i asked already for a tool which extracts from melange all contributors for our MoinMoinAcknowledgements
888 2011-01-09T13:39:30 <ThomasWaldmann> or from hg
889 2011-01-09T13:41:18 <dreimark> some can be extracted from the message, but not screencast
890 2011-01-09T13:41:35 <dreimark> language contributor from the po file
891 2011-01-09T13:42:00 <dreimark> systempage translators by reading
892 2011-01-09T13:45:42 *** m4k3r
893 2011-01-09T13:48:37 <dreimark> wb m4k3r
894 2011-01-09T13:49:36 <m4k3r> moin.
895 2011-01-09T13:54:13 *** grzywacz
896 2011-01-09T14:04:47 *** jgeralnik
897 2011-01-09T14:06:51 <izibi> which type is rev.timestamp supposed to be? datetime?
898 2011-01-09T14:11:45 <izibi> how du i get a tzinfo object from an time offset?
899 2011-01-09T14:17:14 <dreimark> http://uswaretech.com/blog/2009/02/understanding-datetime-tzinfo-timedelta-timezone-conversions-python/
900 2011-01-09T14:20:01 <izibi> guess, what i'm currently reading :D
901 2011-01-09T14:20:08 <izibi> why is this so complicated?
902 2011-01-09T14:22:54 *** cryptw
903 2011-01-09T14:23:16 *** cryptw
904 2011-01-09T14:27:22 <izibi> that sucks
905 2011-01-09T14:31:43 <TheSheep> people are compilcated
906 2011-01-09T14:31:49 <ThomasWaldmann> be glad it is not windows or Saudi Arabian Solar Time :P
907 2011-01-09T14:35:38 <izibi> wtf? if i change it to float i get a TypeError
908 2011-01-09T14:35:52 <izibi> *to datetime
909 2011-01-09T14:36:22 *** kursor
910 2011-01-09T14:41:12 <izibi> something's wrong...
911 2011-01-09T14:41:55 *** cryptw
912 2011-01-09T14:44:12 <cosmos_t1ought> ThomasWaldmann: Where i can show some "zwischen" results
913 2011-01-09T14:45:34 *** kursor
914 2011-01-09T14:46:02 <izibi> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/545599344ba9/MoinMoin/storage/__init__.py#l775 @type timestamp: int
915 2011-01-09T14:46:20 *** DPini
916 2011-01-09T14:46:26 <DPini> Hi
917 2011-01-09T14:46:33 *** kursor
918 2011-01-09T14:46:53 <ThomasWaldmann> cosmos_t1ought: use paste.pocoo.org
919 2011-01-09T14:46:59 *** cryptw
920 2011-01-09T14:47:35 <cosmos_t1ought> thx
921 2011-01-09T14:49:06 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I searched on master19 for help pages in Catalan, but I dont found anyone, so I dont need to translate any Helppage title on the translation?
922 2011-01-09T14:49:43 <izibi> this bug sucks
923 2011-01-09T14:50:30 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: correct
924 2011-01-09T14:50:38 <cosmos_t1ought> But ThomasWaldmann: what should i paste there? the minimalistic rst file i made or the html sphynx generaded?
925 2011-01-09T14:50:40 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Ok, i will correct them :P
926 2011-01-09T14:51:12 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: and what about msgid "RecentChanges"? I should translate it?
927 2011-01-09T14:51:22 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: if you like, you can do that after the current task (if you have still time left while gci is running, there are also tasks about system pages)
928 2011-01-09T14:51:45 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: with "correct", i meant you can use 1:1 english fake translation for now
929 2011-01-09T14:51:53 <DPini> ok
930 2011-01-09T14:52:14 <ThomasWaldmann> cosmos_t1ought: rst
931 2011-01-09T14:52:47 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure they support html online rendering, try it
932 2011-01-09T14:53:27 <ThomasWaldmann> brb
933 2011-01-09T14:55:45 <cosmos_t1ought> ThomasWaldmann: This is what i have done so far (i know there has to be more information that hast to be generated) right now the html output shows the class names with the docstrings in it, if there are some
934 2011-01-09T14:55:53 <cosmos_t1ought> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317592/
935 2011-01-09T14:57:56 <izibi> ok, i'm looking at the wrong place. something's fucked up...
936 2011-01-09T14:58:06 <cosmos_t1ought> brb
937 2011-01-09T15:00:47 <izibi> why don't i see debug log messages?
938 2011-01-09T15:06:14 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I should translate msgid "DeletePage" or its a system/help page too?
939 2011-01-09T15:06:39 <dreimark> izibi: look also at babel tzinfo stuff
940 2011-01-09T15:09:18 *** grzywacz
941 2011-01-09T15:09:50 <dreimark> DPini: all words written as WikiName are pages
942 2011-01-09T15:09:57 <DPini> Ok
943 2011-01-09T15:10:10 <dreimark> (almost)
944 2011-01-09T15:10:29 <izibi> something is very fucked up. oO rev.timestamp is with fs2 and hg a long
945 2011-01-09T15:10:57 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
946 2011-01-09T15:12:04 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/rev/08a3f00801a1
947 2011-01-09T15:13:19 <dreimark> hmm that is only fs19
948 2011-01-09T15:16:26 <dreimark> i think this is more related http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/rev/72f6db070642
949 2011-01-09T15:17:23 <izibi> fuck off, this can't be true
950 2011-01-09T15:17:29 <izibi> this makes absolutely no sense
951 2011-01-09T15:17:39 <izibi> what the hell is going on there?
952 2011-01-09T15:17:59 <TheSheep> please mind your language
953 2011-01-09T15:19:23 <dreimark> izibi: too tired ?
954 2011-01-09T15:19:52 <izibi> if rev.timestamp is a long, it works
955 2011-01-09T15:20:02 <izibi> if it's a float, everything breaks down
956 2011-01-09T15:20:07 <izibi> explenations? :D
957 2011-01-09T15:21:18 <dreimark> there is somewhere isinstance check involved
958 2011-01-09T15:21:39 <izibi> if format in ('short', 'medium', 'full', 'long'):
959 2011-01-09T15:21:45 <izibi> this can't be true :(
960 2011-01-09T15:23:39 <izibi> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/545599344ba9/MoinMoin/support/flaskext/babel.py#l234
961 2011-01-09T15:23:53 * izibi smashes his face on the table
962 2011-01-09T15:24:27 <dreimark> aa_: do you have time to look at that babel problem ^
963 2011-01-09T15:24:37 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: be careful
964 2011-01-09T15:24:46 <ThomasWaldmann> you could damage the table :P
965 2011-01-09T15:25:00 <izibi> but wait
966 2011-01-09T15:25:53 <izibi> this can't have any effect
967 2011-01-09T15:26:03 <dreimark> bbl
968 2011-01-09T15:26:46 <izibi> i don't understand how this works
969 2011-01-09T15:27:58 <izibi> let's add some logging and see what happens
970 2011-01-09T15:28:04 <izibi> i want to know this now :D
971 2011-01-09T15:28:32 <izibi> i have a fix but i don't know why it works :D
972 2011-01-09T15:32:10 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Can you help me with the errors Im geting on the wiki?
973 2011-01-09T15:33:36 <izibi> https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0-dev/changeset/c7c75378302b so here's the fix. took about 2 hours to find it...
974 2011-01-09T15:34:49 *** kursor
975 2011-01-09T15:35:38 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: for fixes always make sure you know how it works, otherwise it might be not the right fix
976 2011-01-09T15:36:09 <izibi> i'm currently adding some logging stuff
977 2011-01-09T15:36:15 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Who are you saing this? To izibi or to me?
978 2011-01-09T15:36:24 <izibi> but it's all about making rev.timestamp a long
979 2011-01-09T15:37:16 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: if there is a nick at the beginning of the post, that is the person who is addressed
980 2011-01-09T15:37:32 <DPini> oops, i havent se it :P
981 2011-01-09T15:37:37 <DPini> I*
982 2011-01-09T15:38:11 <cosmos_t1ought> back
983 2011-01-09T15:38:15 <DPini> I dont know why im getting 2 fatal errors when I upload the new translation to the wiki, can somehone help me?
984 2011-01-09T15:40:58 *** cryptw2
985 2011-01-09T15:41:20 *** cryptw
986 2011-01-09T15:43:27 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I have fixed it and submitetd it on the Google Mangler
987 2011-01-09T15:46:21 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ca 14 fuzzy 4 untranslated
988 2011-01-09T15:47:14 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: was this all 1 easy task?
989 2011-01-09T15:49:52 *** grzywacz
990 2011-01-09T15:50:21 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Yes :P
991 2011-01-09T15:50:32 <ThomasWaldmann> you need 1 more?
992 2011-01-09T15:50:40 <DPini> if u want ;)
993 2011-01-09T15:51:32 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i closed this one. thanks a lot!
994 2011-01-09T15:51:47 <ThomasWaldmann> see my comments on melange
995 2011-01-09T15:52:50 <ThomasWaldmann> it currently (after closing) shows 3 tasks, so you maybe rather need sleep? :)
996 2011-01-09T15:53:20 <DPini> probably :P
997 2011-01-09T15:53:53 <DPini> I cant get another 3 tasks in less than 8 hours :P
998 2011-01-09T15:54:42 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
999 2011-01-09T15:55:07 <ThomasWaldmann> but after recovery (<g>) maybe have a look at the few untranslated/fuzzy ones.
1000 2011-01-09T15:56:01 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I dont know how to translate the untranslated/fuzzy ones :P
1001 2011-01-09T15:56:41 <ThomasWaldmann> OpenID success. id: %s
1002 2011-01-09T15:57:00 <DPini> Hum, i havent see that :S
1003 2011-01-09T15:57:01 <ThomasWaldmann> this means that a user successfully authenticated via openid
1004 2011-01-09T15:57:25 <ThomasWaldmann> so the only translatable word is "success" meaning "it worked"
1005 2011-01-09T15:57:54 <DPini> translated
1006 2011-01-09T15:58:41 <ThomasWaldmann> Password is too easy (password contains name or name contains password).
1007 2011-01-09T15:59:15 <ThomasWaldmann> this one means someone with name johnsmith has e.g. john as password, or johnsmithsecret
1008 2011-01-09T15:59:41 <DPini> I have fixed it this night
1009 2011-01-09T15:59:54 <DPini> but I havent reminded to delete the fuzzy tag :P
1010 2011-01-09T16:00:26 <ThomasWaldmann> [%(sitename)s] New attachment added to page %(pagename)s
1011 2011-01-09T16:00:37 <ThomasWaldmann> this is likely subject of an email notify
1012 2011-01-09T16:00:47 <ThomasWaldmann> sitename is the name of the wiki
1013 2011-01-09T16:01:03 <aa_> dreimark: I know nothing about babel
1014 2011-01-09T16:01:21 <ThomasWaldmann> it notifies about a new file has been attached to page <pagename>.
1015 2011-01-09T16:01:34 <aa_> dreimark: I am a strong believer in banning non-english languages
1016 2011-01-09T16:01:42 <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317624/ i can't see any difference oO
1017 2011-01-09T16:01:44 * aa_ hides somewhere safe
1018 2011-01-09T16:01:47 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: maybe keen sitename at the start
1019 2011-01-09T16:01:52 <ThomasWaldmann> keep*
1020 2011-01-09T16:02:05 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Edited antoher time ;)
1021 2011-01-09T16:02:12 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Now its correct ;)
1022 2011-01-09T16:02:18 <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: american or british or indish english?
1023 2011-01-09T16:02:38 <aa_> ThomasWaldmann: well British, of course
1024 2011-01-09T16:02:51 <izibi> => babel itself is the problem oO
1025 2011-01-09T16:02:57 <aa_> I doubt the others are even English
1026 2011-01-09T16:03:37 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: Lexer description - only translate "description", Lexer is a term from computer science and might get worse if you try to translate.
1027 2011-01-09T16:03:40 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: I am fixing strings with [%(sitename)s]
1028 2011-01-09T16:03:49 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: ok
1029 2011-01-09T16:04:04 <ThomasWaldmann> same for "Lexer names", only translate "names"
1030 2011-01-09T16:04:21 <izibi> there we have it
1031 2011-01-09T16:04:23 <izibi> elif isinstance(datetime, (int, long)):
1032 2011-01-09T16:05:58 * izibi facepalms
1033 2011-01-09T16:06:03 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Done ;)
1034 2011-01-09T16:09:51 <DPini> I have fixed all fuzzy translations that I can understand
1035 2011-01-09T16:10:04 <DPini> the other ones, I dont know how to tranlate them :(
1036 2011-01-09T16:11:18 <DPini> Well, I should go dinner :P
1037 2011-01-09T16:12:55 <ThomasWaldmann> Diff with oldest revision in left pane
1038 2011-01-09T16:13:29 <ThomasWaldmann> that means it shows a difference between 2 revision, and the older revision is on the left part of the screen
1039 2011-01-09T16:14:05 <DPini> Ok, i will see it after the dinner :)
1040 2011-01-09T16:14:14 <ThomasWaldmann> Diff with newest revision in right pane <- same, but newer / right
1041 2011-01-09T16:14:20 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, have a nice dinner :)
1042 2011-01-09T16:14:26 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Ty ;)
1043 2011-01-09T16:38:52 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Fixed
1044 2011-01-09T16:42:29 <ThomasWaldmann> Edit the subscription regular expressions in your settings.
1045 2011-01-09T16:42:54 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: one can "subscribe" to pages, that means one gets notified if someone else changes them.
1046 2011-01-09T16:43:38 <DPini> and how do I translate regular expressions?
1047 2011-01-09T16:43:38 <ThomasWaldmann> a regular expression (aka regex) is stuff from computer science. if your language does not have a term for it, just leave it as is.
1048 2011-01-09T16:43:42 <DPini> I dont get it :S
1049 2011-01-09T16:43:58 <DPini> Ok, im going to fix it
1050 2011-01-09T16:44:07 <ThomasWaldmann> .* for example is regex matching any char, any amount
1051 2011-01-09T16:44:57 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Ok, I get it, and fixed it ;)
1052 2011-01-09T16:47:56 *** jgeralnik
1053 2011-01-09T16:53:14 <ThomasWaldmann> DPini: Exclude underlay < that is like from the search functionality
1054 2011-01-09T16:53:45 <ThomasWaldmann> you do not need to translated "underlay", so just translate "Exclude" (like "leave away")
1055 2011-01-09T16:53:53 <DPini> so
1056 2011-01-09T16:53:56 <DPini> it means
1057 2011-01-09T16:54:02 <DPini> exclude from search results?
1058 2011-01-09T16:54:46 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
1059 2011-01-09T16:54:57 <ThomasWaldmann> but it doesn't fully tell
1060 2011-01-09T16:55:19 <ThomasWaldmann> (in fact, not only from results, it won't even search in underlay pages then)
1061 2011-01-09T16:55:23 <DPini> If I translate it to somthing similar to : "exclude from search results" it s correct?
1062 2011-01-09T16:55:42 <DPini> I dont understand the underlay part :(
1063 2011-01-09T16:55:53 <ThomasWaldmann> no, just trans(Exclude) blank keep(underlay)
1064 2011-01-09T16:56:20 <DPini> then "Catalan word for exclude" + underlay
1065 2011-01-09T16:56:20 <ThomasWaldmann> underlay directory is the place where we store system and help pages in moin 1.x
1066 2011-01-09T16:56:22 <DPini> ?
1067 2011-01-09T16:56:26 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
1068 2011-01-09T16:56:29 <DPini> ok
1069 2011-01-09T16:56:41 <DPini> Ok, translated
1070 2011-01-09T16:56:47 <ThomasWaldmann> Can't change to revision newer than in right pane
1071 2011-01-09T16:56:53 <ThomasWaldmann> same for older / left
1072 2011-01-09T16:57:21 <ThomasWaldmann> that is if you try to navigate to a revision that does not exist (newer than newest, older than oldest)
1073 2011-01-09T16:58:03 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/MoinI18n/ca?action=diff&rev2=160&rev1=159
1074 2011-01-09T16:58:17 <ThomasWaldmann> move mouse over the --> on the right header
1075 2011-01-09T16:58:47 <DPini> ohh ok :)
1076 2011-01-09T16:59:57 <DPini> fixed
1077 2011-01-09T17:06:47 <ThomasWaldmann> Can't change to revision older than revision in left pane
1078 2011-01-09T17:06:54 <ThomasWaldmann> same thing, just other end
1079 2011-01-09T17:08:55 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Ok
1080 2011-01-09T17:09:53 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Fixed
1081 2011-01-09T17:10:04 <DPini> S/Fixed/Translated
1082 2011-01-09T17:10:33 <ThomasWaldmann> The remote wiki uses a different InterWiki name (%(remotename)s) internally "
1083 2011-01-09T17:10:33 <ThomasWaldmann> 0031: "than you specified (%(localname)s).
1084 2011-01-09T17:11:00 <ThomasWaldmann> that is like from wikisync, where you can synchronize page content of a local wiki and a remote wiki
1085 2011-01-09T17:11:04 <ThomasWaldmann> likely*
1086 2011-01-09T17:11:50 <ThomasWaldmann> remote = the other one, do not translate "InterWiki"
1087 2011-01-09T17:12:30 <ThomasWaldmann> after this, you've almost complete the translation, except those 2 rather complicated help strings that are still fuzzy
1088 2011-01-09T17:12:35 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks a lot :)
1089 2011-01-09T17:12:59 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: Translated ;)
1090 2011-01-09T17:13:09 <DPini> ThomasWaldmann: You are welcome ;)
1091 2011-01-09T17:14:06 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: did you try hg backend with your fix?
1092 2011-01-09T17:19:07 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10275:c7c75378302b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/hg.py: Fixed crash with mercurial storage backend.
1093 2011-01-09T17:23:47 *** m4k3r
1094 2011-01-09T17:44:44 <dreimark> re
1095 2011-01-09T17:48:37 <dreimark> izibi: :)
1096 2011-01-09T17:48:56 <NikitaUtiu> moin
1097 2011-01-09T17:49:03 <dreimark> hi NikitaUtiu
1098 2011-01-09T17:49:18 <NikitaUtiu> i'm thinking of implementing fser
1099 2011-01-09T17:49:20 <NikitaUtiu> fserv
1100 2011-01-09T17:49:56 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129457182874 seen ?
1101 2011-01-09T17:50:04 <dreimark> fserv is what ?
1102 2011-01-09T17:50:17 <NikitaUtiu> forced service
1103 2011-01-09T17:55:41 <dreimark> this is the max request or by time condition ? so that a user needs to reconnect?
1104 2011-01-09T17:57:09 <dreimark> s/reconnect/re authenticate/
1105 2011-01-09T18:01:17 *** cryptw2
1106 2011-01-09T18:02:01 *** cryptw
1107 2011-01-09T18:06:41 <dreimark> is Dude108 here ?
1108 2011-01-09T18:10:31 *** pvinogradov1
1109 2011-01-09T18:12:45 <dreimark> arg, bug in Load
1110 2011-01-09T18:13:25 *** pvinogradov
1111 2011-01-09T18:26:35 *** greg_f
1112 2011-01-09T18:28:54 <NikitaUtiu> i was wondering, was the openid login done in the same view in moin1.9 ?
1113 2011-01-09T18:55:43 <ThomasWaldmann> someone speaking hindi reading?
1114 2011-01-09T19:04:30 <izibi> re
1115 2011-01-09T19:04:36 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: of course i tried ;)
1116 2011-01-09T19:06:19 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i assumed so
1117 2011-01-09T19:09:57 * NikitaUtiu is annoyed by flatland
1118 2011-01-09T19:11:29 *** kursor
1119 2011-01-09T19:27:51 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: it's sometimes hard, but can do complex stuff
1120 2011-01-09T19:28:07 <ThomasWaldmann> before getting too annoyed, ask here or on #discorporate
1121 2011-01-09T19:28:45 <NikitaUtiu> it's annoying that i can't have 2 input buttons send the same thing
1122 2011-01-09T19:30:50 <NikitaUtiu> i found a workaround, not very elegant, but works though, to have a button labeled Log in and one Log in with OpenID
1123 2011-01-09T19:31:10 <NikitaUtiu> i put the login_submit field hidden in the template
1124 2011-01-09T19:43:10 *** rfw
1125 2011-01-09T20:17:09 *** grzywacz
1126 2011-01-09T20:17:09 *** grzywacz
1127 2011-01-09T20:45:05 <cosmos_t1ought> back
1128 2011-01-09T20:46:27 <dreimark> cosmos_t1ought: claim request missing
1129 2011-01-09T20:46:39 *** kursor
1130 2011-01-09T20:49:14 <cosmos_t1ought> dreimark: ?
1131 2011-01-09T20:49:51 <dreimark> cosmos_t1ought: you prepare a screen cast ?
1132 2011-01-09T20:50:29 <cosmos_t1ought> oO
1133 2011-01-09T20:50:48 <cosmos_t1ought> give me a easy topic
1134 2011-01-09T20:51:07 <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129037965314
1135 2011-01-09T20:51:37 <cosmos_t1ought> okay
1136 2011-01-09T20:51:40 <cosmos_t1ought> deadline?
1137 2011-01-09T20:52:23 <dreimark> January 10, 2011, 12:00 AM Pacific Time / 08:00 UTC: All work stops
1138 2011-01-09T20:53:17 <cosmos_t1ought> what was 12 am again in 24 h time format?
1139 2011-01-09T20:53:27 <dreimark> 08:00 UTC
1140 2011-01-09T20:53:53 <dreimark> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
1141 2011-01-09T20:54:37 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: cosmos_t1ought is (AFAIK :) not taking part in gci
1142 2011-01-09T20:56:07 <cosmos_t1ought> not really
1143 2011-01-09T20:56:08 <dreimark> oh, then sorry for requesting
1144 2011-01-09T20:56:14 <cosmos_t1ought> np
1145 2011-01-09T20:56:21 <cosmos_t1ought> i would do it anyway
1146 2011-01-09T20:56:57 <dreimark> thx
1147 2011-01-09T20:57:28 <cosmos_t1ought> but i think its better when someone from the gci would do it
1148 2011-01-09T20:58:03 <dreimark> i would also prefer but noone did claimed it and one starting now is too late
1149 2011-01-09T20:59:23 <ThomasWaldmann> it's over soon, yes
1150 2011-01-09T21:01:26 <cosmos_t1ought> btw ThomasWaldmann: this is where i been come so far right now with sphinx and ncc1701 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/317592/
1151 2011-01-09T21:02:31 <dreimark> is that the project by andreas and harald armin?
1152 2011-01-09T21:02:33 *** NikitaUtiu
1153 2011-01-09T21:03:03 <dreimark> http://code.google.com/p/ncc1701/
1154 2011-01-09T21:03:08 <dreimark> obviously not
1155 2011-01-09T21:04:46 <cosmos_t1ought> no its the enterprise class in python ;)
1156 2011-01-09T21:06:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ncc1701 is from harald armin massa (at least he presented it at EP)
1157 2011-01-09T21:15:27 <dreimark> both are owners
1158 2011-01-09T21:21:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
1159 2011-01-09T21:42:14 <cosmos_t1ought> gn8 everybody
1160 2011-01-09T21:42:30 <ThomasWaldmann> gn cosmos_t1ought
1161 2011-01-09T21:43:08 <cosmos_t1ought> thx
1162 2011-01-09T21:45:35 <dreimark> night cosmos_t1ought
1163 2011-01-09T22:38:49 *** rfw
1164 2011-01-09T22:43:00 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like we have ~10h left for gci :) until 08:00 UTC 10.1.2011
1165 2011-01-09T22:43:01 *** rfw
1166 2011-01-09T22:43:41 <ThomasWaldmann> (that 12:00AM Pacific is so confusing, i can never remember what's 00:00 and 12:00)
1167 2011-01-09T22:44:49 <ThomasWaldmann> no wonder the military use 24h clock, so that noone is confused :P
1168 2011-01-09T22:53:13 *** m4k3r
1169 2011-01-09T23:03:00 <jacktheripper> I do remember and I'm worried about that since it's getting late and I have some school work too.
1170 2011-01-09T23:03:35 <jacktheripper> can I have my task closed ? 28 strings left, I can finish them tomorrow. pweathe ?
1171 2011-01-09T23:09:09 <ThomasWaldmann> how much did you already complete this time?
1172 2011-01-09T23:09:39 <jacktheripper> less than 100 I think :S
1173 2011-01-09T23:09:40 <jacktheripper> let me check
1174 2011-01-09T23:10:06 <ThomasWaldmann> also check how many total you did
1175 2011-01-09T23:10:15 <jacktheripper> 695 strings totally
1176 2011-01-09T23:10:36 <ThomasWaldmann> and this your 4th task?
1177 2011-01-09T23:10:40 <jacktheripper> so 95 this task :/
1178 2011-01-09T23:10:41 <jacktheripper> yeah
1179 2011-01-09T23:11:04 <ThomasWaldmann> how many tasks do you have already total?
1180 2011-01-09T23:11:25 <jacktheripper> three
1181 2011-01-09T23:11:30 <jacktheripper> for the 600
1182 2011-01-09T23:11:37 <ThomasWaldmann> no i mean total in gci
1183 2011-01-09T23:11:41 <jacktheripper> oh
1184 2011-01-09T23:11:42 <jacktheripper> 11
1185 2011-01-09T23:11:48 <ThomasWaldmann> ok :)
1186 2011-01-09T23:11:49 <jacktheripper> I'll need one more for $400
1187 2011-01-09T23:12:05 <ThomasWaldmann> did you already translate those complicated strings?
1188 2011-01-09T23:12:15 <jacktheripper> yeah, there's just one huge string left
1189 2011-01-09T23:12:27 <jacktheripper> I kept the symbols as they are, with the text segments translated
1190 2011-01-09T23:12:33 <ThomasWaldmann> that <<Verbatim(... stuff
1191 2011-01-09T23:12:39 <jacktheripper> yes those
1192 2011-01-09T23:12:57 <jacktheripper> here: http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ar
1193 2011-01-09T23:13:02 <ThomasWaldmann> i think if you translate the remaining huge one there would be reason to tell effort was enough
1194 2011-01-09T23:13:29 <jacktheripper> okay then, thanks :) I'll do it now
1195 2011-01-09T23:13:38 <ThomasWaldmann> (please understand we can just say "ok", we need to be fair)
1196 2011-01-09T23:13:46 <ThomasWaldmann> can't*
1197 2011-01-09T23:13:49 <jacktheripper> I know, I feel it isn't fair too
1198 2011-01-09T23:14:31 <ThomasWaldmann> but as strings are quite different, translating some huge/complicated ones is as good as more short ones
1199 2011-01-09T23:14:59 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe also check if there are fuzzies still. low hanging fruit sometimes.
1200 2011-01-09T23:15:20 <jacktheripper> how do I do that ?
1201 2011-01-09T23:15:57 <jacktheripper> CheckTranslation ?
1202 2011-01-09T23:18:26 <ThomasWaldmann> it tells you right above the translation
1203 2011-01-09T23:18:40 <ThomasWaldmann> if it doesn't talk about fuzzy, there are none
1204 2011-01-09T23:19:33 <jacktheripper> oh, none remaining then.
1205 2011-01-09T23:40:02 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, I don't get the error here http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ar
1206 2011-01-09T23:43:08 <ThomasWaldmann> me neither. sounds like a structural problem
1207 2011-01-09T23:43:22 <ThomasWaldmann> but i am totally confused by mixed rtl/ltr rendering
1208 2011-01-09T23:43:39 <jacktheripper> lol we all are
1209 2011-01-09T23:44:14 <ThomasWaldmann> \n missing?
1210 2011-01-09T23:45:08 <dreimark> that was it last time
1211 2011-01-09T23:46:24 <jacktheripper> happens when I translate read-write, etc page o.O
1212 2011-01-09T23:46:39 <jacktheripper> it isn't \n. I never changed the ones there (copy/pasted original)
1213 2011-01-09T23:47:23 <jacktheripper> hmm are these commands I shuoldn't mess with ?
1214 2011-01-09T23:47:30 <ThomasWaldmann> 3335:55 usually means line:offset into that line
1215 2011-01-09T23:48:03 <jacktheripper> oh
1216 2011-01-09T23:48:38 <jacktheripper> I added a slash
1217 2011-01-09T23:48:59 <ThomasWaldmann> that %(username)s is correct?
1218 2011-01-09T23:49:04 <jacktheripper> oh crap, it's the escape slash
1219 2011-01-09T23:49:14 <jacktheripper> yeah it is. I added an escape slash mistakingly
1220 2011-01-09T23:49:50 <ThomasWaldmann> are arab people more used to that confusing stuff as western people? :)
1221 2011-01-09T23:50:23 <ThomasWaldmann> or asked differently: is the rendering moin/browser does in that view correct or should it look differently?
1222 2011-01-09T23:50:30 <jacktheripper> well, you shouldn't count me as arab. First time I type arabic that much, so no, not used at all lol
1223 2011-01-09T23:50:33 <jacktheripper> it looks better on gedit
1224 2011-01-09T23:51:15 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, you get extra karma for doing hard job :D
1225 2011-01-09T23:51:22 <jacktheripper> haha thanks :D
1226 2011-01-09T23:51:30 *** DPini
1227 2011-01-09T23:51:31 <jacktheripper> I'll finish off the rest tomorrow don't worry
1228 2011-01-09T23:51:42 <ThomasWaldmann> submitted something to melange?
1229 2011-01-09T23:51:47 <jacktheripper> oh not yet
1230 2011-01-09T23:53:16 <jacktheripper> submitted
1231 2011-01-09T23:53:22 <jacktheripper> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129450317776
1232 2011-01-09T23:57:41 <ThomasWaldmann> closed :)
1233 2011-01-09T23:57:54 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks a lot for your effort and sleep well :)
1234 2011-01-09T23:58:26 <jacktheripper> yw, thanks for the extra task :D
1235 2011-01-09T23:58:27 <jacktheripper> gn
1236 2011-01-09T23:59:02 *** jacktheripper
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