1 2011-01-11T00:31:43 *** grzywacz
2 2011-01-11T00:54:09 *** izibi
3 2011-01-11T01:16:20 *** jacktheripper
4 2011-01-11T02:26:01 * ThomasWaldmann did a review of all 75 closed tasks whether their result is either in repo (mostly), or on the wiki or on static server (video)
5 2011-01-11T02:33:23 <xorAxAx> cool
6 2011-01-11T02:40:17 * ThomasWaldmann writes a resumee for gci
7 2011-01-11T02:46:29 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GCI2010
8 2011-01-11T03:05:45 <ThomasWaldmann> http://xkcd.com/844/
9 2011-01-11T04:34:53 *** TripleEntendre
10 2011-01-11T04:34:54 *** xorAxAx
11 2011-01-11T04:37:24 *** xorAxAx
12 2011-01-11T07:33:18 *** franklin
13 2011-01-11T08:36:34 *** Trip
14 2011-01-11T08:37:00 *** Trip
15 2011-01-11T08:37:10 *** Guest35429
16 2011-01-11T08:38:52 <TripleEntendre> ThomasWaldmann I think I solved that XKCD flowchart: the way to good code is not to start a project
17 2011-01-11T08:39:15 <TripleEntendre> or to not start a project
18 2011-01-11T08:39:40 <TripleEntendre> or to make sure your code is not part of or made within a project
19 2011-01-11T08:39:58 <TripleEntendre> (choose whichever is funniest in your native languages)
20 2011-01-11T08:57:09 *** xjjk
21 2011-01-11T09:03:57 *** xjjk
22 2011-01-11T09:17:04 <dreimark> TripleEntendre: don't start with your own project, learn from existings and then if you are wise start your own if needed
23 2011-01-11T09:18:51 <TripleEntendre> dreimark: that works, I like that interpretation
24 2011-01-11T09:20:01 <dreimark> bbl
25 2011-01-11T10:34:14 *** greg_f
26 2011-01-11T12:45:03 *** TripleEntendre
27 2011-01-11T13:24:58 *** izibi
28 2011-01-11T14:19:17 *** jacktheripper
29 2011-01-11T14:19:27 *** jacktheripper
30 2011-01-11T15:03:20 <ThomasWaldmann> re
31 2011-01-11T15:21:34 *** m4k3r
32 2011-01-11T15:53:48 *** NikitaUtiu
33 2011-01-11T15:54:39 <NikitaUtiu> moin
34 2011-01-11T16:11:16 <dreimark> re
35 2011-01-11T16:17:08 <NikitaUtiu> do you like the new look of the login view ?
36 2011-01-11T16:21:22 <ThomasWaldmann> i didn't practically try the cs yet, but src looked good :)
37 2011-01-11T16:23:01 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: i sent you a pic yesterday
38 2011-01-11T16:23:13 <NikitaUtiu> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lm6psz&s=7
39 2011-01-11T16:29:37 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe "Your OpenID" instead of "OpenID" as label for the input field?
40 2011-01-11T16:30:16 <ThomasWaldmann> and we need to move that flash hint to the Moin Login section later also
41 2011-01-11T16:34:05 *** maker__
42 2011-01-11T16:35:22 *** m4k3r
43 2011-01-11T16:50:47 <NikitaUtiu> there is a lot of paperwork for GCI :D
44 2011-01-11T16:52:02 <ThomasWaldmann> well, i guess this is due to bureaucracy and legal reasons
45 2011-01-11T16:52:11 <ThomasWaldmann> and to filter out some cheaters :)
46 2011-01-11T16:58:11 <NikitaUtiu> i've began implementing the other stages of the oid auth
47 2011-01-11T16:58:53 <NikitaUtiu> how should it work? no user -> would you like to create a user -> create a user or no user -> create user
48 2011-01-11T17:00:43 <ThomasWaldmann> of course it must not allow associating to an existing profile unless the user can authenticate with that
49 2011-01-11T17:00:58 <ThomasWaldmann> (== with moin login)
50 2011-01-11T17:01:35 <NikitaUtiu> no, not that; if the openid is good but no user, should i ask him before account creation ? :)
51 2011-01-11T17:01:38 <ThomasWaldmann> and we should avoid having users create new profiles just because they are unaware that they can just enter their openid into the existing profile
52 2011-01-11T17:01:54 <NikitaUtiu> oh
53 2011-01-11T17:02:38 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we just ask for username and email before creating new profile
54 2011-01-11T17:02:50 <ThomasWaldmann> then we can use that to search for existing profiles
55 2011-01-11T17:03:00 <NikitaUtiu> yeah, i should remove, oid from registration view
56 2011-01-11T17:03:58 <ThomasWaldmann> and if we find an existing profile, we should have the user authenticate against it somehow
57 2011-01-11T17:04:12 <ThomasWaldmann> to make sure he is the owner of that profile :)
58 2011-01-11T17:07:37 <NikitaUtiu> so there should be another stage that asks you whether you want to associate or create
59 2011-01-11T17:07:56 <NikitaUtiu> and another 2 stage for association or creation respectively
60 2011-01-11T17:11:29 <ThomasWaldmann> stage as in auth system stages?
61 2011-01-11T17:14:34 <NikitaUtiu> yes, why?
62 2011-01-11T17:14:51 <NikitaUtiu> that's how ti was done in 1.9
63 2011-01-11T17:14:54 <NikitaUtiu> it
64 2011-01-11T17:15:19 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure wheter we should (or need to put) all that stuff into the auth system itself
65 2011-01-11T17:17:22 <ThomasWaldmann> and don
66 2011-01-11T17:17:38 <ThomasWaldmann> don't ask them whether they want to create or associate
67 2011-01-11T17:17:48 <ThomasWaldmann> normal people won't know
68 2011-01-11T17:18:01 <ThomasWaldmann> just ask for the data we need anyway and find out yourself
69 2011-01-11T17:28:24 *** maker__
70 2011-01-11T17:29:51 *** maker__
71 2011-01-11T18:14:35 *** grzywacz
72 2011-01-11T18:14:35 *** grzywacz
73 2011-01-11T18:27:19 *** greg_f
74 2011-01-11T19:18:28 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: should there be another view for creating the user, or loginn view, cause the login view is getting crowded
75 2011-01-11T19:33:06 <ThomasWaldmann> we already have +register
76 2011-01-11T20:21:02 * dreimark mail from carols
77 2011-01-11T20:31:02 *** TripleEntendre
78 2011-01-11T20:36:52 *** maker__
79 2011-01-11T20:44:20 <TripleEntendre> what do I use in place of 'wikiutil.escape' in newer moin versions?
80 2011-01-11T20:47:25 <ThomasWaldmann> a template and autoescape mode
81 2011-01-11T20:47:36 <ThomasWaldmann> if you mean moin2
82 2011-01-11T20:49:00 *** maker__
83 2011-01-11T20:49:06 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: just found a bug, +dom view doesn't work
84 2011-01-11T20:49:47 <NikitaUtiu> do we have a bug tracker ?
85 2011-01-11T20:50:34 <ThomasWaldmann> for moin 1.9 we use the wiki, for moin2 we usually just fix it :)
86 2011-01-11T20:53:32 <TripleEntendre> I mean 1.9. maybe I'll migrate my organization's wiki to moin2, it sounds nice already
87 2011-01-11T21:01:29 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: is still need to find an elegant way to deal with the association and creation, but till tomorrow, bye
88 2011-01-11T21:04:12 <TripleEntendre> is there anything in the moin2 codebase that could be used to provide a custom html-filtering proxy? for use in, say, stripping excess cruft out of the raw html of some outside-hosted widget we want to embed in a wiki page
89 2011-01-11T21:05:50 *** NikitaUtiu
90 2011-01-11T21:25:21 <ThomasWaldmann> TripleEntendre: for mission critical stuff, stay away from moin2 for a while
91 2011-01-11T21:25:43 <ThomasWaldmann> but feel free to test it and help improving it
92 2011-01-11T21:25:47 <TripleEntendre> ok
93 2011-01-11T21:26:23 <ThomasWaldmann> TripleEntendre: moin2 has a html-in and -out converter
94 2011-01-11T21:26:53 <ThomasWaldmann> when putting stuff through them, only supported stuff will be left over (which is rather basic stuff)
95 2011-01-11T21:27:16 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure how tolerant html-in is, though
96 2011-01-11T21:28:46 <TripleEntendre> ok, that makes sense. for what I was contemplating, then, I'd need to run a separate little http proxy service. which is easy enough to do.
97 2011-01-11T21:29:21 <TripleEntendre> doesn't have to involve moin at all that way, it's just a proxy
98 2011-01-11T21:30:19 <TripleEntendre> on a related note: I am thinking about making a way to replace wiki tables one-for-one, automatically and transparently, with Google spreadsheet widgets, via the python APIs for Google Spreadsheets and Google docs
99 2011-01-11T21:39:59 *** ThomasWaldmann
100 2011-01-11T21:42:51 *** ThomasWaldmann
101 2011-01-11T21:49:49 <TripleEntendre> what do I use in place of 'wikiutil.escape' if I am writing a macro for moinmoin 1.9?
102 2011-01-11T21:54:16 <ThomasWaldmann> you have wikiutil.escape in 1.9
103 2011-01-11T22:38:49 <TripleEntendre> okay, I will investigate the error more closely then.
