1 2011-01-22T00:16:50 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2 2011-01-22T00:17:13 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: i made a virtualenv and pip-installed the stuff we need, most worked ok
3 2011-01-22T00:17:56 <ThomasWaldmann> nothing for emeraldtree yet, though
4 2011-01-22T00:36:28 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: version number for emeraldtree? use same as forked elementtree? 0.1? 1.3a? 1.0? 0.0? :)
5 2011-01-22T00:52:08 *** grzywacz
6 2011-01-22T01:21:03 *** Trip_
7 2011-01-22T01:22:31 *** Trip_
8 2011-01-22T01:58:40 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/emeraldtree/0.9.0
9 2011-01-22T01:59:21 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ^^
10 2011-01-22T02:02:02 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 80:3603f1e39613 EmeraldTree/setup.py: setup.py: use setuptools, add more metadata for pypi
11 2011-01-22T02:02:53 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 81:b934a82bc42f EmeraldTree/.hgtags: tagged release 0.9.0
12 2011-01-22T02:03:41 *** not-xjjk
13 2011-01-22T02:07:57 *** Trip__
14 2011-01-22T02:07:57 *** Trip_
15 2011-01-22T02:12:49 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: Tomorrow I'll have to look at a custom flask patch we have in our copy (send_file). mitsuhiko did some other fix later, which might be in the current flask release.
16 2011-01-22T02:39:39 *** Trip_
17 2011-01-22T02:40:05 *** Trip__
18 2011-01-22T02:42:30 *** Trip_
19 2011-01-22T02:42:43 *** Trip_
20 2011-01-22T03:05:33 *** Trip_
21 2011-01-22T03:37:03 *** Trip_
22 2011-01-22T04:01:04 *** izibi
23 2011-01-22T04:35:50 *** Trip__
24 2011-01-22T04:37:03 *** Trip_
25 2011-01-22T05:57:07 *** Trip__
26 2011-01-22T05:57:37 *** TripleEntendre
27 2011-01-22T05:57:55 *** TripleEntendre_l
28 2011-01-22T06:13:38 *** Trip_
29 2011-01-22T06:13:38 *** TripleEntendre
30 2011-01-22T06:43:01 *** kursor
31 2011-01-22T07:07:23 *** Trip_
32 2011-01-22T07:07:38 *** Trip_
33 2011-01-22T07:54:20 *** Trip_
34 2011-01-22T07:54:37 *** Trip_
35 2011-01-22T08:48:39 *** Trip__
36 2011-01-22T08:48:39 *** Trip_
37 2011-01-22T09:22:19 <dreimark> moin
38 2011-01-22T09:22:41 <dreimark> we miss a backlink function for all views
39 2011-01-22T09:23:21 <dreimark> to navigate back to the item or some other place
40 2011-01-22T09:24:25 <dreimark> highlight is currently broken
41 2011-01-22T09:25:38 <dreimark> bbl
42 2011-01-22T10:51:21 *** izibi
43 2011-01-22T10:56:04 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: contrib/static and something similiar to flaskext themes.
44 2011-01-22T10:58:26 * dreimark hmm, if we depent on such a mechanism always we can also use it for all plugins
45 2011-01-22T10:58:34 <dreimark> static stuff
46 2011-01-22T11:04:03 * dreimark looks deeper in that
47 2011-01-22T11:04:09 <dreimark> bbl
48 2011-01-22T11:16:59 <eSyr> moin
49 2011-01-22T11:18:19 <eSyr> Is it ok if i write down some ideas (i mean, potential issues, possible ways of implementation) related to plugin system on InitialProjectIdeas page?
50 2011-01-22T11:20:10 <TheSheep> in the worst case we will move it to your home page ;)
51 2011-01-22T11:20:26 <TheSheep> be bold
52 2011-01-22T11:34:01 *** kursor
53 2011-01-22T11:36:34 <eSyr> ok
54 2011-01-22T11:44:42 <dreimark> eSyr: please do
55 2011-01-22T11:45:21 *** izibi_
56 2011-01-22T11:47:03 <dreimark> eSyr: http://moinmo.in/PluginConceptOverhaul
57 2011-01-22T11:47:10 *** izibi
58 2011-01-22T12:07:53 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
59 2011-01-22T12:09:30 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you mean a link to the "show" rendering of same item?
60 2011-01-22T12:11:13 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: e.g. on history view
61 2011-01-22T12:11:24 <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+highlight/8/Home
62 2011-01-22T12:12:10 <dreimark> missed to a add a url, sorry
63 2011-01-22T12:13:27 <ThomasWaldmann> just click on "Home" ("title")
64 2011-01-22T12:15:53 <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+wanteds?item_name=creole&rev=1
65 2011-01-22T12:16:23 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ok, we just need to keep the title always
66 2011-01-22T12:16:42 <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+tags?item_name=creole&rev=1
67 2011-01-22T12:17:37 <dreimark> me was confused the highlight link was for the brokeness
68 2011-01-22T12:22:56 <dreimark> bbl
69 2011-01-22T12:33:25 *** greg_f
70 2011-01-22T12:47:45 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10285:a3e4b977ad9a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: add Markup() around pygments output, so it doesn't get autoescaped by jinja2
71 2011-01-22T13:01:00 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10286:85153516d27f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (config/default.py templates/editbar.html): add Highlight to edit_bar
72 2011-01-22T13:24:35 *** NikitaUtiu
73 2011-01-22T13:27:34 <dreimark> re
74 2011-01-22T13:29:08 * dreimark wishes gci is on going, afte a little rest i am full of ideas of easy tasks
75 2011-01-22T13:36:47 <ThomasWaldmann> put them on EasyToDo, maybe some students like to do more
76 2011-01-22T13:41:45 <dreimark> :)
77 2011-01-22T13:44:18 *** grzywacz
78 2011-01-22T13:54:03 *** NikitaUtiu
79 2011-01-22T13:55:15 *** NikitaUtiu
80 2011-01-22T14:13:55 <NikitaUtiu> moin
81 2011-01-22T14:29:14 <ThomasWaldmann> moin NikitaUtiu
82 2011-01-22T14:29:27 <NikitaUtiu> hi
83 2011-01-22T14:29:36 <NikitaUtiu> i was wondering about something
84 2011-01-22T14:30:22 <NikitaUtiu> if a user registered with moinauth and admin then removes moin auth should he be able to add an openid to the old account or not?
85 2011-01-22T15:01:40 *** izibi_
86 2011-01-22T15:05:56 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10287:0baac72fb58c 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py util/send_file.py): flask's send_file does not work for us, fork it
87 2011-01-22T15:06:49 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ^^ should be fine now with flask's current release
88 2011-01-22T15:08:21 *** kursor
89 2011-01-22T15:20:19 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: I am not sure this is really tied to moin auth
90 2011-01-22T15:20:55 <NikitaUtiu> yes, but accounts w/o an openid cannot log in once there is only openidauth
91 2011-01-22T15:21:12 <NikitaUtiu> should it be like that?
92 2011-01-22T15:21:16 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we just have to say "user needs to authenticate so moin knows he really is it before he can associate an openid to HIS (and only his) profile"
93 2011-01-22T15:22:11 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: sure, but that is not your problem then. and you can not solve it anyway.
94 2011-01-22T15:22:27 <NikitaUtiu> ah, ok
95 2011-01-22T15:22:41 <ThomasWaldmann> you could also have http auth or ldap or whatever as the "old auth"
96 2011-01-22T15:23:21 <ThomasWaldmann> so how do you currently make sure that some user only associates HIS profile with his openid?
97 2011-01-22T15:25:38 <NikitaUtiu> well you can only associate an openid at creation of the account
98 2011-01-22T15:31:49 <ThomasWaldmann> so associating existing account works be logging in otherwise and putting your openid into your settings?
99 2011-01-22T15:31:54 <ThomasWaldmann> by*
100 2011-01-22T15:32:32 <NikitaUtiu> no, just logging in and creating an account with that openid
101 2011-01-22T15:33:42 <ThomasWaldmann> you don't want to create an account (profile) if you already have one
102 2011-01-22T15:34:06 <ThomasWaldmann> because all the history refers to your profile id
103 2011-01-22T15:37:30 <NikitaUtiu> ok, and btw wouldn't it be nice if a user could have multiple oids per account?
104 2011-01-22T15:38:34 <xorAxAx> enterprisey
105 2011-01-22T15:42:26 <NikitaUtiu> well yes, that sounds a bit like cheap marketing
106 2011-01-22T16:13:55 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: yes, nice, but maybe we first get the basics finished
107 2011-01-22T16:18:17 <NikitaUtiu> so the user should be able to change their openid from the settings
108 2011-01-22T16:18:27 <NikitaUtiu> only when openid is on?
109 2011-01-22T16:19:13 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't think you need to check that
110 2011-01-22T16:21:54 <NikitaUtiu> but i still need to check if the openid is valid, which need some of the code in the openidauth to be split into functions
111 2011-01-22T17:03:55 <ThomasWaldmann> you mean as a form validator?
112 2011-01-22T17:04:08 <ThomasWaldmann> (we do not check the email either, btw)
113 2011-01-22T17:11:12 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: no, not like that, i mean that if a user wants to associate an openid to his account we should at least test it's valid
114 2011-01-22T17:11:21 <NikitaUtiu> as an openid
115 2011-01-22T17:16:25 <NikitaUtiu> i know it's not very user friendly, but the best solution seems to be to ask the user if he wants to associate or to create account
116 2011-01-22T17:16:43 <NikitaUtiu> after login with a new oid
117 2011-01-22T17:21:49 *** m4k3r
118 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10288:141e7ad603d8 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py util/send_file.py): (log message trimmed)
119 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> simplify send_file and callers, details below
120 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> Removed the crappy filename_or_fp param. We now have file and filename
121 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> cleanly separated. Reordered some other params.
122 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> Removed deprecation warning stuff for this. It was intended for inclusion
123 2011-01-22T17:24:17 <CIA-56> into flask, but as this did not happen, we don't need it just for us.
124 2011-01-22T17:24:18 <CIA-56> Removed the filename magic. Either you give filename or you won't have one.
125 2011-01-22T17:25:16 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: don't ask users too complicated stuff, esp. if they are not aware of consequences of wrong answer
126 2011-01-22T17:26:01 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. if you they choose create and have already an account, they'll have 2 afterwards
127 2011-01-22T17:26:20 <ThomasWaldmann> and they likely run into more trouble if they provide same email as for the old account
128 2011-01-22T17:26:31 <NikitaUtiu> on the other hand - why don't i check if the user name already exists *facepalm*
129 2011-01-22T17:26:50 <NikitaUtiu> sorry about that
130 2011-01-22T17:27:58 <ThomasWaldmann> if you find an existing account, maybe just tell them to log into that one and then add their openid via user settings manually
131 2011-01-22T17:28:28 <ThomasWaldmann> and maybe rather double-check username AND email to avoid dupes
132 2011-01-22T17:28:37 <ThomasWaldmann> AND openid :)
133 2011-01-22T17:29:01 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: how is it going? :)
134 2011-01-22T17:29:10 <NikitaUtiu> ok:)
135 2011-01-22T17:37:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: for werkzeug it looks like we can't depend on some release version, but 2010-12-31 repo looks fine
136 2011-01-22T17:53:00 *** m4k3r
137 2011-01-22T18:07:34 * ThomasWaldmann works on upgrading werkzeug to current repo state
138 2011-01-22T18:51:13 <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10289:1d8a3c8df482 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (45 files in 5 dirs): upgrade werkzeug to repo contents of today
139 2011-01-22T18:53:40 *** izibi_
140 2011-01-22T18:55:22 *** TheSheep_
141 2011-01-22T18:56:36 *** dreimark_
142 2011-01-22T18:58:24 *** izibi
143 2011-01-22T18:58:25 *** dreimark
144 2011-01-22T18:58:25 *** TheSheep
145 2011-01-22T19:00:45 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: spend the last few hours in bed, catching an illness
146 2011-01-22T19:05:29 <Trip__> good rest is the best cure. and drink enough liquids. and some say lots of Vitamin C. :)
147 2011-01-22T19:11:22 <ronny> specifically thomas says lots of vitamin c
148 2011-01-22T19:15:41 *** Trip_
149 2011-01-22T19:15:41 *** Trip__
150 2011-01-22T19:42:32 *** adrian3
151 2011-01-22T19:43:45 *** greg_f
152 2011-01-22T20:04:16 <ThomasWaldmann> Trip_: some including some biochemists, chemists and nobel price winners :)
153 2011-01-22T20:06:21 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: turns out i still have some :)
154 2011-01-22T20:06:57 <ThomasWaldmann> problem is that if you have already major illness, it is a bit late. well, but better late than nothing. :)
155 2011-01-22T20:12:40 <Trip_> this is true
156 2011-01-22T20:13:27 <Trip_> I like to take care of the need for extra fluids and the need for extra hydration at the same time: http://www.emergenc.com/index.php/misc/alacer
157 2011-01-22T20:13:49 <Trip_> they give free samples, but only ship to them USA. :(
158 2011-01-22T20:14:10 <Trip_> *within the USA
159 2011-01-22T20:20:30 <ThomasWaldmann> never try to get stuff from the US to germany
160 2011-01-22T20:22:06 *** TheSheep_
161 2011-01-22T20:22:20 *** TheSheep
162 2011-01-22T20:28:36 <ronny> the only stuff i'd like to get form the usa to germany is beef jerky
163 2011-01-22T20:34:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ok, current werkzeug repo seems to also work
164 2011-01-22T20:39:58 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: whats yor current state?
165 2011-01-22T20:40:28 <ronny> just testing the deps from the main sources?
166 2011-01-22T20:40:28 <ThomasWaldmann> i pushed it
167 2011-01-22T20:40:42 <ThomasWaldmann> i didn't work on moin's setup.py yet
168 2011-01-22T21:18:30 <NikitaUtiu> htg, bye and speedy recovery :)
169 2011-01-22T21:22:40 *** NikitaUtiu
170 2011-01-22T21:27:16 *** kursor
171 2011-01-22T21:44:27 *** Trip_
172 2011-01-22T21:44:38 *** Trip_
173 2011-01-22T22:17:51 *** adrian3
174 2011-01-22T23:40:58 *** izibi_
175 2011-01-22T23:41:04 *** izibi
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