MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-01-24

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   2 2011-01-24T00:05:51  <dreimark> we should make the kind of items we can create dependent on which are available
   3 2011-01-24T00:11:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
   4 2011-01-24T00:14:39  <dreimark> we list draw items but there must be not any of them installed
   5 2011-01-24T00:15:27  <dreimark> drawing items
   6 2011-01-24T00:15:28  <dreimark> TDRAW - ADRAW - SVGDRAW -
   7 2011-01-24T00:30:59  <ThomasWaldmann> creation is no problem, editing is
   8 2011-01-24T00:36:25  <dreimark> seeing a missing plugin is also not good, and likly no one will be able to upload a correct item
   9 2011-01-24T00:40:57  <ThomasWaldmann> we can check whether we have a serve entry
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  11 2011-01-24T00:52:37  <ThomasWaldmann> (00:27) < LawnGnome> Carol has just confirmed that SoC is officially running this year at linux.conf.au. Incidentally, there's a  new logo for this year, and it's AWESOME.
  12 2011-01-24T00:53:06  <dreimark> :)
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  16 2011-01-24T03:38:39  <cosmos_t1ought> moin
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  25 2011-01-24T09:23:11  <dreimark> moin
  26 2011-01-24T09:23:14  <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+wanteds
  27 2011-01-24T09:23:21  <dreimark> what is None for ?
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  30 2011-01-24T10:41:59  <eSyr> moin
  31 2011-01-24T10:43:53  <eSyr> shouldn't two search-related project proposals be merged, or they are divided intentionally? http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/GoogleSoc2011/InitialProjectIdeas?action=diff&rev2=10&rev1=9
  32 2011-01-24T10:48:00  <eSyr> ("raw" action is missing in moin2 interface, btw)
  33 2011-01-24T10:50:31  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  34 2011-01-24T10:56:29  <dreimark> eSyr: it can be merged i devided it because of the two phases of a soc project. I have no idea how long the implementation takes
  35 2011-01-24T10:57:53  <dreimark> currently I think for item based search it takes longer as for meta
  36 2011-01-24T10:58:06  <dreimark> because for meta we already have some infrastructure
  37 2011-01-24T11:00:25  <ThomasWaldmann> the main problem is that it is still unclear what should be used as base technology
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  39 2011-01-24T11:03:56  <dreimark> bbl
  40 2011-01-24T11:08:46  <ThomasWaldmann> also, there are 2 slightly different kinds of "searches"
  41 2011-01-24T11:09:41  <ThomasWaldmann> a) select-like precise "search" - we can use this for metadata index, based on sqlalchemy
  42 2011-01-24T11:10:06  <ThomasWaldmann> b) fuzzy/partial full text search
  43 2011-01-24T11:10:36  <ThomasWaldmann> Then there is the query parser and UI part.
  44 2011-01-24T11:25:29  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i don't think you can do a "security review" as soc project
  45 2011-01-24T11:28:07  <ThomasWaldmann> "reimplement Comments navigation" and if even I don't understand what that shall be, how shall a student get anything out of that?
  46 2011-01-24T11:30:10  <dreimark> thought to add a note about that before I forget it again
  47 2011-01-24T12:38:04  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: setuptools is a bot brothersome wrt metadata
  48 2011-01-24T12:47:18  <TheSheep> bothersome :)
  49 2011-01-24T12:51:27  * ThomasWaldmann likes brothersome bots
  50 2011-01-24T12:53:50  <TheSheep> brudazom
  51 2011-01-24T12:57:20  * dreimark waits for an explaination ;)
  52 2011-01-24T13:01:16  <TheSheep> http://captionsearch.com/pix/hisb1uuecp.jpg
  53 2011-01-24T13:22:44  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: for?
  54 2011-01-24T13:23:07  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: hehe
  55 2011-01-24T13:24:25  <dreimark> brothersome/bothersome/brudazom
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  60 2011-01-24T19:19:06  <nitin_> hi there , this is nitin . i am interested in developing for this project but do not know where to start from .i have seen moin moin 2 and have installed and played with it
  61 2011-01-24T19:19:11  <nitin_> in my computer
  62 2011-01-24T19:20:05  <nitin_> if anybody is there
  63 2011-01-24T19:20:11  <nitin_> please help me
  64 2011-01-24T19:20:12  <nitin_> out
  65 2011-01-24T19:29:40  <nitin_> hey is anybody there
  66 2011-01-24T19:29:45  <nitin_> please guide
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  68 2011-01-24T19:47:54  <nitin_> hey ThomasWaldmann, ( i am sorry if i mispelt it ), are you there
  69 2011-01-24T19:50:29  <ThomasWaldmann> ah
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  73 2011-01-24T20:35:29  <zynox> Lets try this git-hg
  74 2011-01-24T20:38:24  <ThomasWaldmann> hg is nice py code :)
  75 2011-01-24T20:38:43  <ThomasWaldmann> and works almost the same as git
  76 2011-01-24T20:41:27  <zynox> Its the time it takes to learn something new
  77 2011-01-24T20:42:27  <ThomasWaldmann> s/git/hg/ and you're almost done :)
  78 2011-01-24T20:42:54  <zynox> Nah, I tried to use hg before
  79 2011-01-24T20:43:00  <zynox> hg reset -- checkout
  80 2011-01-24T20:43:08  <zynox> reset doesn't work anything similar iirc
  81 2011-01-24T20:43:25  <ThomasWaldmann> i never had to use such a thing :)
  82 2011-01-24T20:44:29  <zynox> Do you know what the equivalent of gitosis would be in mercurial?
  83 2011-01-24T20:44:36  <zynox> s/in/for
  84 2011-01-24T20:44:50  <ThomasWaldmann> bitbucket?
  85 2011-01-24T20:44:57  <zynox> for local installs
  86 2011-01-24T20:45:11  <ThomasWaldmann> then i don't know what gitosis is
  87 2011-01-24T20:45:19  <zynox> Its basically what github is based on
  88 2011-01-24T20:45:43  <zynox> So like bitbucket but something I could host locally
  89 2011-01-24T20:49:09  <ThomasWaldmann> ah. no, no idea.
  90 2011-01-24T20:49:55  <zynox> User.(setBookmark|getBookmark)
  91 2011-01-24T20:50:02  <zynox> why not use properties?
  92 2011-01-24T20:50:18  <zynox> User.bookmark = new_value
  93 2011-01-24T20:50:19  <zynox> etc
  94 2011-01-24T20:51:12  <zynox> Is there a reason for this?
  95 2011-01-24T20:51:16  <ThomasWaldmann> that's rather old code
  96 2011-01-24T20:51:23  <zynox> So its fine to update?
  97 2011-01-24T20:51:53  <ThomasWaldmann> try :)
  98 2011-01-24T20:52:24  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is the recenthchanges bookmark, the functionality it is used for might be missing still.
  99 2011-01-24T20:52:31  <ThomasWaldmann> so not good for testing.
 100 2011-01-24T20:54:32  <zynox> What does the "valid" property on a User represent?
 101 2011-01-24T20:58:20  <nitin_> ThomasWaldmann: Zynox : i will catch you guys with my difficulties soon
 102 2011-01-24T20:58:41  <ThomasWaldmann> nitin_: sure, just ask :)
 103 2011-01-24T20:59:28  <ThomasWaldmann> zynox: there is always some user object, even for anon users
 104 2011-01-24T20:59:38  <ThomasWaldmann> valid means that the user authenticated
 105 2011-01-24T21:02:09  <zynox> Ahh, I come from a django background
 106 2011-01-24T21:02:19  <zynox> AnnonymouseUser and User
 107 2011-01-24T21:02:50  <zynox> Easier for not having all the code to edit a user etc
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 112 2011-01-24T21:20:35  <zynox> In the "pytest" tool, I take it each . represents a test, and F is fail?, what is s, and how do I see what the fail was?
 113 2011-01-24T21:20:45  <zynox> oh and X
 114 2011-01-24T21:21:03  <ThomasWaldmann> skip, xfail
 115 2011-01-24T21:21:22  <ThomasWaldmann> there will be long log output when tests are finished
 116 2011-01-24T21:23:02  <zynox> ahh
 117 2011-01-24T21:23:10  <zynox> is there anyway to make it only run a small set of tests?
 118 2011-01-24T21:23:39  <zynox> so I don't have to wait however long this is going to take to retest
 119 2011-01-24T21:25:25  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10328:ecd39787af6c 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (9 files in 3 dirs): move logos to logos/ dir
 120 2011-01-24T21:25:30  <ThomasWaldmann> ./pytest -k keyword
 121 2011-01-24T21:25:32  <ThomasWaldmann> or
 122 2011-01-24T21:25:42  <ThomasWaldmann> ./pytest thattest.py
 123 2011-01-24T21:27:47  <zynox> 82 failed, 1996 passed, 279 skipped, 4 xfailed, 3 xpassed, 2 error in 358.00 seconds
 124 2011-01-24T21:31:46  <ThomasWaldmann> i had some less, but it might depend on what's installed
 125 2011-01-24T21:41:55  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10329:06ab427251e0 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (21 files in 7 dirs): remove common/ directory layer, move favicon.ico to logos/ dir
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 127 2011-01-24T22:48:34  <dreimark> zynox: hg serve ?