1 2011-02-06T00:20:28 <dreimark> more Actions / more Views ?
2 2011-02-06T00:30:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hm?
3 2011-02-06T00:32:38 <dreimark> the pull down menue name
4 2011-02-06T00:36:42 <ThomasWaldmann> "view" is a term normal users are maybe not that familiar with as software developers
5 2011-02-06T00:38:19 <dreimark> hmm true,
6 2011-02-06T00:42:56 <Trip_> both words are wrong
7 2011-02-06T00:46:55 <ThomasWaldmann> "More" :D
8 2011-02-06T00:54:46 <dreimark> that would satisfy me too :)
9 2011-02-06T01:00:30 <ThomasWaldmann> feel free :)
10 2011-02-06T01:01:45 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: easy: add to meta data who has contributed
11 2011-02-06T01:02:05 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like we have that already in metadata?
12 2011-02-06T01:13:37 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: "userid": "1296951182.37.14061",
13 2011-02-06T01:15:30 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes, and also in history for all revisions
14 2011-02-06T01:16:09 <dreimark> the idea was to have a list in meta
15 2011-02-06T01:16:18 <ThomasWaldmann> meta == history
16 2011-02-06T01:16:22 <dreimark> yes
17 2011-02-06T01:16:39 <ThomasWaldmann> so, what exactly is the point?
18 2011-02-06T01:17:04 <dreimark> the point is the view for showing a user who he had contributed to
19 2011-02-06T01:20:16 <dreimark> gn
20 2011-02-06T01:26:41 * ThomasWaldmann changed EasyToDo accordingly
21 2011-02-06T01:26:43 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
22 2011-02-06T02:06:47 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, how about doing template items not by name (FooTemplate), but by tagging them with tag "template"?
23 2011-02-06T02:09:10 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, how about doing group items not by name (FooGroup), but by tagging them with tag "group"?
24 2011-02-06T02:09:59 <ThomasWaldmann> and categories will be replaced by tags anyway
25 2011-02-06T02:26:55 *** Trip_
26 2011-02-06T03:25:27 *** ronny
27 2011-02-06T03:30:30 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10408:84ca92d615b0 2.0-dev/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: added comments about password security
28 2011-02-06T03:30:32 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10409:a630dd4b97f1 2.0-dev/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): docs: add E-Mail configuration, remove snippet
29 2011-02-06T03:52:20 *** cosmos_t1ought
30 2011-02-06T03:55:25 *** cosmos_thought
31 2011-02-06T03:58:21 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10410:9d5af20be379 2.0-dev/docs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): docs: document groups and dicts, remove snippets
32 2011-02-06T04:19:05 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10411:a102846c227e 2.0-dev/ (3 files in 3 dirs): secrets: fix key name 'security/ticket'
33 2011-02-06T04:19:08 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10412:95905ece3dc3 2.0-dev/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): docs: add secrets docs, remove snippet
34 2011-02-06T04:31:42 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10413:8846baf1a304 2.0-dev/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): docs: add SMBMount docs, remove snippet
35 2011-02-06T04:51:26 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10414:7ec7d2819abd 2.0-dev/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): docs: add TextCha docs, remove it from snippet
36 2011-02-06T05:32:02 *** espeed
37 2011-02-06T05:37:54 *** espeed
38 2011-02-06T07:02:07 *** cosmos_thought
39 2011-02-06T07:04:49 *** cosmos_t1ought
40 2011-02-06T07:16:50 *** m4k3r
41 2011-02-06T08:19:28 <CIA-65> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 10415:5db23793dd51 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/templates/base.html: renamed actions menu initial value to More
42 2011-02-06T08:29:03 *** kasun
43 2011-02-06T09:07:36 *** kasun
44 2011-02-06T09:26:04 *** kasun
45 2011-02-06T11:20:10 *** m4k3r
46 2011-02-06T11:20:16 *** m4k3r
47 2011-02-06T11:23:47 *** kasun
48 2011-02-06T11:25:16 *** greg_f
49 2011-02-06T11:35:20 *** kasun
50 2011-02-06T11:37:34 * dreimark plays with sphinx make options
51 2011-02-06T11:37:45 <dreimark> the qthelp one is alos nice
52 2011-02-06T11:37:52 <dreimark> s/alos/also/
53 2011-02-06T11:54:29 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: fresh quickinstall
54 2011-02-06T11:54:32 <dreimark> ImportError: No module named mercurial
55 2011-02-06T11:54:53 <dreimark> because for me in wikiconfig_local that is the prefered one
56 2011-02-06T12:05:31 <dreimark> .oO transclusion with other convertors
57 2011-02-06T12:06:40 <dreimark> creole, mm works
58 2011-02-06T12:06:45 <dreimark> reST not
59 2011-02-06T12:17:56 *** maker
60 2011-02-06T12:19:13 *** m4k3r
61 2011-02-06T12:19:17 <dreimark> valeuf: i forgot again, how can i convert from one item to an other?
62 2011-02-06T12:19:55 <dreimark> bbl
63 2011-02-06T12:20:56 *** kasun
64 2011-02-06T12:38:49 *** kasun
65 2011-02-06T12:51:37 *** NikitaUtiu
66 2011-02-06T13:02:46 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
67 2011-02-06T13:02:56 <Marchael> moin
68 2011-02-06T13:04:42 *** espeed
69 2011-02-06T13:12:06 <Marchael> Oh, I got textcha working with /+modify !
70 2011-02-06T13:12:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, good :)
71 2011-02-06T13:12:58 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: and i got openid working on our test wiki :)
72 2011-02-06T13:13:08 <NikitaUtiu> great :)
73 2011-02-06T13:13:28 <ThomasWaldmann> was a bit non-intuitive, though ;)
74 2011-02-06T13:14:12 <ThomasWaldmann> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/OpenID%20with%20moin2
75 2011-02-06T13:15:07 <NikitaUtiu> your OpenID is something like http://www.google.com/profiles/ThomasMoinWaldmann ? that's not needed
76 2011-02-06T13:15:23 <NikitaUtiu> you just need to type the url of the provider when you log in
77 2011-02-06T13:15:41 <NikitaUtiu> it will return your id url so you don't have to
78 2011-02-06T13:16:19 <NikitaUtiu> though you still have to know it to add it to the user settings
79 2011-02-06T13:16:39 <ThomasWaldmann> you mean that strange url that's the same for everybody?
80 2011-02-06T13:17:57 <NikitaUtiu> no, that's unique
81 2011-02-06T13:18:01 <NikitaUtiu> but let's say
82 2011-02-06T13:18:24 <NikitaUtiu> give google url -> log in with account -> google returns back with that url
83 2011-02-06T13:19:44 <ThomasWaldmann> if it can be done easier, maybe just modify that wiki page
84 2011-02-06T13:20:43 *** kursor_
85 2011-02-06T13:20:47 <ThomasWaldmann> i also first tried with something like google.com/.../id which is same for everybody, but found that a bit unintuitive to enter as MY openid
86 2011-02-06T13:21:34 <ThomasWaldmann> also, if everybody had that in his profile, how would you know who's who? :)
87 2011-02-06T13:24:01 <NikitaUtiu> i have to think a little to find some more intuitive login method
88 2011-02-06T13:24:43 <dreimark> it is "http://google.com/profiles/me"
89 2011-02-06T13:25:35 <NikitaUtiu> yes but it's the same either http://google.com/profiles/me or http://google.com/
90 2011-02-06T13:25:45 <dreimark> and me is a very long number
91 2011-02-06T13:26:17 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: i guess only after you have logged in once
92 2011-02-06T13:27:06 *** maker
93 2011-02-06T13:27:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can we still convert in reST by a query ? I rember something like show and a mimetype
94 2011-02-06T13:27:50 <NikitaUtiu> well if you write http://google.com/profiles/me the only thing you get is that the prompt will be filled with the name 'me'
95 2011-02-06T13:27:52 <dreimark> but not really the right syntax
96 2011-02-06T13:28:26 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: if you login to your google account you see the expression of me
97 2011-02-06T13:28:30 <dreimark> as your id
98 2011-02-06T13:29:08 <NikitaUtiu> the only difference is just the page you get redirected to
99 2011-02-06T13:29:47 <NikitaUtiu> if you login as 'blah blah' your identity_url will be http://google.com/profiles/blah blah
100 2011-02-06T13:30:50 <dreimark> yes, but how do we get then a uniq id to profile mapping?
101 2011-02-06T13:31:13 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: hmm, was it +convert?
102 2011-02-06T13:32:06 <NikitaUtiu> you get: http://google.com/profiles/blah blah is what you get back, i check the openid only after the process, it's in the query string :D
103 2011-02-06T13:32:27 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do you have a complete example
104 2011-02-06T13:32:54 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: and at next login you can use your second google account?
105 2011-02-06T13:34:14 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: it's borken
106 2011-02-06T13:35:09 <dreimark> ah
107 2011-02-06T13:35:38 <dreimark> i crashed testwiki by entering http://google.com to my settings
108 2011-02-06T13:35:41 <dreimark> brb
109 2011-02-06T13:36:05 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10416:9e07b60e3338 2.0-dev/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: beginning of storage admin docs
110 2011-02-06T13:38:22 <NikitaUtiu> https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id is the address of the openid service sorry
111 2011-02-06T13:39:41 <NikitaUtiu> at login you can write the url of the service, in settings, you cannot
112 2011-02-06T13:39:50 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but a user doesn't know that all
113 2011-02-06T13:40:12 <ThomasWaldmann> and when googling, you find lots of confusing stuff :)
114 2011-02-06T13:40:36 <NikitaUtiu> most sites use the openid-selector to make things friendlier
115 2011-02-06T13:40:54 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, some little pictures to click on would be nice :)
116 2011-02-06T13:41:54 <ThomasWaldmann> or even without pictures, just a link "Google" below the headline "Log in with OpenID" would be sufficient
117 2011-02-06T13:42:16 <NikitaUtiu> i think that can be implemented quickly in the +login view, but it'll take some time for user settings
118 2011-02-06T13:43:11 <NikitaUtiu> also, is the cleaned up repo ready ?
119 2011-02-06T13:43:32 <ThomasWaldmann> nope
120 2011-02-06T13:43:51 <ThomasWaldmann> so small steps please :)
121 2011-02-06T13:44:55 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: can i see your code (diff > pastebin)?
122 2011-02-06T13:47:55 <Marchael> hm, pastetib will be faster :)
123 2011-02-06T13:48:00 <dreimark> NikitaUtiu: ThomasWaldmann I get on my testwiki
124 2011-02-06T13:48:01 <Marchael> *pastebin
125 2011-02-06T13:48:06 <dreimark> AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'openid'
126 2011-02-06T13:48:27 <dreimark> if I try to enter my openid to the input form of preferences
127 2011-02-06T13:49:04 <NikitaUtiu> let me check
128 2011-02-06T13:50:27 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333035/
129 2011-02-06T13:51:27 <NikitaUtiu> strange, i don't get anything like that
130 2011-02-06T13:52:24 <dreimark> aha, this wiki has no open id auth configured
131 2011-02-06T13:57:09 <dreimark> it still happens for me
132 2011-02-06T13:57:15 <dreimark> I try a fresh test wiki
133 2011-02-06T13:57:18 <NikitaUtiu> ok
134 2011-02-06T13:58:18 <NikitaUtiu> i htg, later
135 2011-02-06T13:58:22 *** NikitaUtiu
136 2011-02-06T14:01:47 <dreimark> also a fresh wiki has the same traceback
137 2011-02-06T14:03:47 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: http://pastebin.com/ZRM4qrFp http://pastebin.com/ba2Enjm4
138 2011-02-06T14:04:34 <Marchael> also, 'render_template('modify_binary.html', ...' it`s temporary for testing
139 2011-02-06T14:05:01 <dreimark> Marchael: please do a unified diff
140 2011-02-06T14:06:10 <dreimark> for patches in general have a look at http://static.moinmo.in/files/screencast/moin_patch/
141 2011-02-06T14:07:10 <Marchael> Hm, it`s available in plain text?
142 2011-02-06T14:08:20 <dreimark> Marchael: do you have pulled recent changesets, because it looks like you remove changes from thomas in your first pastebin
143 2011-02-06T14:08:30 <dreimark> Marchael: plain text, what?
144 2011-02-06T14:09:05 <dreimark> it is a screencast, few minutes explaining diff
145 2011-02-06T14:09:34 <Marchael> here is unified http://pastebin.com/ceBQ9Wvn
146 2011-02-06T14:09:56 <dreimark> no
147 2011-02-06T14:10:16 <dreimark> try diff -u
148 2011-02-06T14:15:39 <Marchael> http://pastebin.com/WUgtihii http://pastebin.com/rc2iwFQb
149 2011-02-06T14:18:53 <dreimark> Marchael: it looks to me that the order is wrong
150 2011-02-06T14:20:27 <dreimark> because on many places I see - TextCha(form).amend_form()
151 2011-02-06T14:20:31 <dreimark> - means remove
152 2011-02-06T14:20:35 <dreimark> + means add
153 2011-02-06T14:21:13 <dreimark> htg bbl
154 2011-02-06T14:28:05 <Marchael> Hm, I`m really don`t pulled Thomas changes. therefore diff looks strange.
155 2011-02-06T14:30:18 <Marchael> also I forgot to add my changes in modify_applet.html.
156 2011-02-06T14:30:45 * ThomasWaldmann looks
157 2011-02-06T14:31:52 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, look strange X)
158 2011-02-06T14:32:06 <Marchael> but it`s only '{{ forms.render_textcha(gen, form) }}'
159 2011-02-06T14:32:24 <ThomasWaldmann> can you please clean up first and then show a correct diff with your stuff?
160 2011-02-06T14:33:06 <Marchael> ok, i`ll try
161 2011-02-06T14:47:47 *** espeed
162 2011-02-06T14:48:51 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, never mix a merge with own changes (in case that was the problem)
163 2011-02-06T14:51:17 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10417:8598a54065f7 2.0-dev/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): docs: more about storage, remove snippets
164 2011-02-06T14:52:26 *** espeed
165 2011-02-06T15:02:21 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10418:a96a8d02677b 2.0-dev/docs/admin/configure.rst: storage docs: add some hints about create_simple_mapping, markup fixes
166 2011-02-06T15:03:46 <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/ < docs are online there, btw
167 2011-02-06T15:11:50 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: I`m sorry for my stupidity, here my changes http://pastebin.com/YEFV1ZCw
168 2011-02-06T15:15:37 *** kursor_
169 2011-02-06T15:16:06 <Marchael> 'return render_template('modify_binary.html',...' in 12. it`s only for testing
170 2011-02-06T15:19:52 <Marchael> Also I still working on saving user`s input in data_editor
171 2011-02-06T15:21:58 <ThomasWaldmann> what's the point of using textcha for _do_modify_show_templates?
172 2011-02-06T15:22:56 <ThomasWaldmann> and same question for the type selection
173 2011-02-06T15:25:30 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: ^^, btw, do you use hg?
174 2011-02-06T15:26:00 <ThomasWaldmann> the diffing etc. is much simpler with hg
175 2011-02-06T15:26:20 <ThomasWaldmann> hg diff | pastebinit is what you usually need
176 2011-02-06T15:33:41 <Marchael> My point of view that Text._do_modify_show_templates() return self._do_modify_show_templates() if template_name is None and isinstance(self.rev, DummyRev), so I added my code here.
177 2011-02-06T15:34:12 <Marchael> s/here/in _do_modify_show_templates/
178 2011-02-06T15:35:24 *** kasun
179 2011-02-06T15:58:18 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't think i got that
180 2011-02-06T15:58:50 <ThomasWaldmann> you will show a textcha on the template selection and type selection view? why?
181 2011-02-06T16:10:52 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: Hm, really It doesn't need there. Thank for your advice.
182 2011-02-06T16:20:29 <ThomasWaldmann> in general, we only need it if data is modified
183 2011-02-06T16:23:37 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10419:af3649afe813 2.0-dev/docs/admin/ (configure.rst serve.rst): docs: more about different kinds of configuration, framework configuration, markup fixes
184 2011-02-06T17:12:27 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10420:cea2fc352afb 2.0-dev/docs/intro/general.rst: docs: who is using moin?
185 2011-02-06T17:12:29 <ThomasWaldmann> gtg / bbl
186 2011-02-06T17:43:33 *** ronny
187 2011-02-06T17:49:04 *** m4k3r
188 2011-02-06T17:58:39 <dreimark> re
189 2011-02-06T18:23:15 *** greg_f
190 2011-02-06T19:00:16 *** espeed
191 2011-02-06T19:00:39 *** kursor
192 2011-02-06T20:19:34 *** kursor
193 2011-02-06T20:25:38 *** Marchael
194 2011-02-06T20:35:02 <ThomasWaldmann> re
195 2011-02-06T20:42:54 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the openid bug happens only for fresh created users
196 2011-02-06T20:43:29 <dreimark> because the openid was not saved in the userprofile
197 2011-02-06T20:45:54 <dreimark> and we have a strange "anonymous" name which sometimes is shown in the Name field
198 2011-02-06T20:46:44 <ThomasWaldmann> well, not sure it can know your name until you tell it
199 2011-02-06T20:46:55 <ThomasWaldmann> was this with profile autocreate?
200 2011-02-06T20:50:51 <dreimark> it knows the name, but because I have to fill in at a second step my openid, it can't compare it
201 2011-02-06T20:51:10 <dreimark> I tried to add it to an existing account
202 2011-02-06T20:57:43 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/333221/
203 2011-02-06T21:14:56 <ThomasWaldmann> that looks incorrect
204 2011-02-06T21:16:01 <ThomasWaldmann> the point of that code is to check for duplicate openids, but you don't do that any more if the current user object has no openid attr
205 2011-02-06T21:20:33 <dreimark> if you create the user, there is not a form field to add the openid
206 2011-02-06T21:20:46 <dreimark> so you can't do it in that step
207 2011-02-06T21:21:06 <dreimark> if you do it afterwards the userobject has not the openid attribute
208 2011-02-06T21:21:13 <dreimark> so you can't compare
209 2011-02-06T21:21:41 <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/+register
210 2011-02-06T21:21:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
211 2011-02-06T21:25:34 <dreimark> hmm, dejavu - we discussed already handling of existing profiles
212 2011-02-06T21:25:51 <dreimark> so you must be able to add a openid to your profile later
213 2011-02-06T21:53:15 *** espeed
214 2011-02-06T21:55:19 <ThomasWaldmann> i had no problem with adding an openid (just with finding out what to type in there)
215 2011-02-06T22:06:11 *** espeed
216 2011-02-06T22:12:12 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: did you tried recently with a new account?
217 2011-02-06T22:12:24 <dreimark> I can't on test and also not locally
218 2011-02-06T22:12:54 <dreimark> before this check was added i had no problems too
219 2011-02-06T22:20:16 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10421:0fe1ca756cfe 2.0-dev/docs/intro/ (features.rst general.rst): docs: general / features - add more content
220 2011-02-06T22:21:50 <ThomasWaldmann> i have no problem creating a new account and logging into it
221 2011-02-06T22:23:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you add a openid to the settings of that new user?
222 2011-02-06T22:24:34 <ThomasWaldmann> no
223 2011-02-06T22:25:28 <ThomasWaldmann> in fact i can't save it, even without openid
224 2011-02-06T22:31:42 *** Trip_
225 2011-02-06T22:33:27 <dreimark> ok, i am not alone
226 2011-02-06T22:43:38 *** espeed
227 2011-02-06T22:43:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: shell:/tmp/pycologne_moin2alpha (talk)
228 2011-02-06T22:46:11 <dreimark> I can show the wiki and source too.
229 2011-02-06T22:48:08 <dreimark> shell, has still 1.0.1 of hg
230 2011-02-06T22:55:22 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10422:c6b84d7443dc 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py templates/register.html): add the OpenID to the register form (optional), add URLValidator for openid
231 2011-02-06T22:55:49 <ThomasWaldmann> this also works around the issue for users created by register
232 2011-02-06T22:56:53 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: shell will likely be the vm to see debian squeeze first, soon
233 2011-02-06T22:57:57 <dreimark> no hurry, i just tried
234 2011-02-06T23:01:49 <ThomasWaldmann> move pygments 1 up to the other pocoo stuff
235 2011-02-06T23:03:16 *** Trip_
236 2011-02-06T23:05:55 *** cosmos_thought
237 2011-02-06T23:22:24 *** Trip_
238 2011-02-06T23:22:24 *** TripleEntendre
239 2011-02-06T23:22:34 *** Trip_
240 2011-02-06T23:44:45 *** espeed
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