1 2011-02-10T00:01:22 *** cosmos_thought
2 2011-02-10T00:01:23 <cosmos_thought> moin
3 2011-02-10T00:02:59 <ThomasWaldmann> hi cosmos_thought
4 2011-02-10T00:05:38 <cosmos_thought> hi ThomasWaldmann
5 2011-02-10T00:19:23 <dreimark> re
6 2011-02-10T00:31:46 <dreimark> gn
7 2011-02-10T02:38:42 *** grzywacz
8 2011-02-10T03:29:44 *** cosmos_t1ought
9 2011-02-10T03:32:40 *** cosmos_thought
10 2011-02-10T05:15:24 *** Marchael
11 2011-02-10T05:16:01 *** kursor
12 2011-02-10T06:36:14 *** Marchael
13 2011-02-10T06:40:30 *** kursor
14 2011-02-10T07:04:34 *** Marchael
15 2011-02-10T07:30:42 *** kasun
16 2011-02-10T09:13:31 <MattMaker> I am studying the moin 1.9.3 codebase and perhaps polluting my brain with wrong ideas that are to be refuted by moin2
17 2011-02-10T09:24:01 *** Marchael
18 2011-02-10T09:24:33 *** Marchael
19 2011-02-10T09:34:52 <dreimark> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/TIOBE-Index-Python-zieht-an-PHP-vorbei-1185907.html
20 2011-02-10T09:35:00 <dreimark> \o/
21 2011-02-10T10:04:46 <MattMaker> yay Python!
22 2011-02-10T10:05:28 <MattMaker> ha, i go to look at the page of the producer of that study, and it says only "This website requires JavaScript." hahahahahaha
23 2011-02-10T10:06:28 <MattMaker> how can they call themselves "The Coding Standards Company" and fail at basic HTML?
24 2011-02-10T10:06:43 <MattMaker> standards, people, standards
25 2011-02-10T10:15:47 <TheSheep> standards are overrated
26 2011-02-10T10:16:45 *** xjjk
27 2011-02-10T10:23:38 *** MattMaker
28 2011-02-10T10:31:33 *** gwork
29 2011-02-10T10:44:41 *** xjjk
30 2011-02-10T10:55:06 *** Trip_
31 2011-02-10T10:55:20 *** Trip_
32 2011-02-10T11:08:46 *** greg_f
33 2011-02-10T11:24:34 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
34 2011-02-10T11:25:03 <Marchael> moin
35 2011-02-10T11:55:47 *** Marchael
36 2011-02-10T12:49:51 *** Marchael
37 2011-02-10T13:06:53 *** Marchael
38 2011-02-10T13:07:12 *** Marchael
39 2011-02-10T13:10:50 *** xjjk
40 2011-02-10T13:10:56 *** xjjk
41 2011-02-10T13:21:07 *** Marchael
42 2011-02-10T13:48:57 *** kasun
43 2011-02-10T14:39:40 *** kasun
44 2011-02-10T15:05:52 *** Marchael
45 2011-02-10T15:45:33 *** kasun
46 2011-02-10T16:03:00 *** Marchael
47 2011-02-10T16:20:44 *** Marchael
48 2011-02-10T16:25:08 *** Marchael
49 2011-02-10T16:32:39 *** gwork
50 2011-02-10T18:18:01 *** m4k3r
51 2011-02-10T18:21:44 *** Marchael
52 2011-02-10T18:33:03 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10434:11a244eb6ab2 2.0-dev/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
53 2011-02-10T18:33:03 <CIA-65> rename user_head macro to head (that is nothing a wiki user can do, just for server admin)
54 2011-02-10T18:33:03 <CIA-65> remove html_head stuff, not used any more and likely it's previous use is superceded by head macro.
55 2011-02-10T18:35:35 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: can you have a look at base.html template theme_supp.stylesheets and cfg.stylesheets (and cfg.external_scripts)
56 2011-02-10T18:36:35 <ThomasWaldmann> it somehow looks to me that now, after snippets.html was inventend as a admin overridable thing, we maybe don't need those configuration settings any more for css and scripts
57 2011-02-10T18:37:04 <ThomasWaldmann> we just maybe need some more macros in snippets.html to make <head> contents configurable enough
58 2011-02-10T18:37:27 <ThomasWaldmann> do we need to do that at different places in head?
59 2011-02-10T18:37:50 <ThomasWaldmann> if guess AFTER theme css and before user css make sense for the css
60 2011-02-10T18:38:24 <ThomasWaldmann> do we also need before / after somewhere for admin configurable js additions?
61 2011-02-10T18:38:36 <ThomasWaldmann> or other stuff that needs some specific location within head?
62 2011-02-10T18:41:48 <ThomasWaldmann> do we need something BEFORE theme css or AFTER user css also?
63 2011-02-10T18:46:09 *** grzywacz
64 2011-02-10T19:00:47 *** Marchael
65 2011-02-10T19:18:40 *** kasun
66 2011-02-10T19:41:05 *** greg_f
67 2011-02-10T19:42:05 *** Marchael
68 2011-02-10T19:44:11 *** kasun
69 2011-02-10T19:56:21 <ThomasWaldmann> re
70 2011-02-10T19:56:49 *** kasun
71 2011-02-10T19:59:45 *** Marchael
72 2011-02-10T20:09:38 *** maker
73 2011-02-10T20:10:59 *** m4k3r
74 2011-02-10T21:50:29 *** kasun
75 2011-02-10T22:20:38 *** cosmos_t1ought
76 2011-02-10T22:37:10 <dreimark> re
77 2011-02-10T23:04:44 <ThomasWaldmann> re
78 2011-02-10T23:07:16 <dreimark> i think we can add a comment also to meta
79 2011-02-10T23:07:59 <dreimark> i mean the comment of rename or revert etc.
80 2011-02-10T23:10:38 <dreimark> oh, we do this already, great
81 2011-02-10T23:11:37 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
82 2011-02-10T23:12:25 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, noone has an idea about css / js? (see above)
83 2011-02-10T23:13:46 <dreimark> sometimes i think we should prefix our keys by a !
84 2011-02-10T23:14:07 <dreimark> so that we can destinguis them from user ones
85 2011-02-10T23:14:25 * dreimark reads
86 2011-02-10T23:26:01 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: does this change mean we move the config option from wikiconfig to a html template ?
87 2011-02-10T23:27:38 <ThomasWaldmann> we already move some html stuff to there
88 2011-02-10T23:27:43 <ThomasWaldmann> moved*
89 2011-02-10T23:28:24 <ThomasWaldmann> so it would simplify configuration if we do other htmlish stuff also there
90 2011-02-10T23:28:48 <dreimark> http://master19.moinmo.in/ the text and links on top (yellow box) can something like this then be similiar done
91 2011-02-10T23:29:01 <dreimark> or is that then hardcoded
92 2011-02-10T23:30:13 <ThomasWaldmann> that is one of these things, yes
93 2011-02-10T23:30:27 <ThomasWaldmann> 4 config vars in 1.9, 4 macros in 2.0
94 2011-02-10T23:32:21 <dreimark> but it must work per wiki instance, currently it is global for one or all
95 2011-02-10T23:34:19 <ThomasWaldmann> you'll override the builtin template using a configurable template_dir list
96 2011-02-10T23:34:29 <ThomasWaldmann> that's even documented already :)
97 2011-02-10T23:35:06 <dreimark> ah, ok, i recognized that i have not understand it, not looked at docu, doing now
98 2011-02-10T23:35:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (you don't edit the builtin snippet.html)
99 2011-02-10T23:39:50 <dreimark> we should have only one way to configure it. if we need to have snippets, then i think we should kill the other way
100 2011-02-10T23:46:45 * dreimark plays with it, interesting feature
101 2011-02-10T23:47:51 <dreimark> why is it named snippets ?
102 2011-02-10T23:49:05 <dreimark> it is a collection i guess
103 2011-02-10T23:51:08 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: deleting credits did not work
104 2011-02-10T23:52:06 <dreimark> i am not sure if it is better to have one file per macro also possible
105 2011-02-10T23:54:38 <ThomasWaldmann> you can include other files via jinja, if you want
106 2011-02-10T23:56:35 <dreimark> some macro exists check, would be good, otherwise you need to define it like
107 2011-02-10T23:56:37 <dreimark> {% macro credits(start='<p id="moin-credits">'|safe, end='</p>'|safe, sep='<span>•</span>'|safe) %}
108 2011-02-10T23:56:40 <dreimark> {% endmacro %}
