1 2011-02-23T00:01:09  <MattMaker> oh interesting, the website eventually returned "Not Found  No wiki configuration matching the URL found!"
   2 2011-02-23T00:01:34  <MattMaker> oh, that was when I used the ip address directly, never mind
   3 2011-02-23T00:01:53  <ThomasWaldmann> there seems to be a problem in dallas
   4 2011-02-23T00:02:47  <ThomasWaldmann> Vlan1111.icore1.DTX-Dallas.as6453.net (206.82.139.6)  my traceroute to your ip ends there
   5 2011-02-23T00:05:42  <ThomasWaldmann> your other ip?
   6 2011-02-23T00:07:25  <ThomasWaldmann> 14  ae-1-0.cr0.dca10.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.182)  111.223 ms  108.760 ms  110.469 ms
   7 2011-02-23T00:07:36  <ThomasWaldmann> another traceroute to you ends there
   8 2011-02-23T00:08:34  <dreimark> 12  timewarner (213.248.89.198)  238.163 ms  236.563 ms  240.326 ms
   9 2011-02-23T00:08:42  <dreimark> from my location
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  11 2011-02-23T00:12:08  <MattMaker> other ip 67.15.172.20
  12 2011-02-23T00:12:32  <ThomasWaldmann> that is connected to here
  13 2011-02-23T00:12:38  <MattMaker> suddenly it is working
  14 2011-02-23T00:13:02  <MattMaker> thanks for checking on it
  15 2011-02-23T00:35:17  <dreimark> gn
  16 2011-02-23T00:36:28  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: the sqla fix you did, since when is that new name supported?
  17 2011-02-23T00:36:33  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
  18 2011-02-23T00:47:05  <MattMaker> it's at the link in the comment
  19 2011-02-23T00:47:16  <MattMaker> Deprecated since version 0.6
  20 2011-02-23T00:48:50  <ThomasWaldmann> so the new stuff is there since 0.6 also?
  21 2011-02-23T00:49:14  <ThomasWaldmann> if so, you need to fix setup.py :)
  22 2011-02-23T00:49:21  <MattMaker> aha
  23 2011-02-23T00:51:42  * MattMaker checked the index of the docs pages for 0.5 and 0.6, the new name is there since 0.6.
  24 2011-02-23T00:53:21  <MattMaker> I see what you mean!
  25 2011-02-23T00:53:50  <MattMaker> okay, how recent a version is acceptable to require? or preferable?
  26 2011-02-23T00:54:18  <MattMaker> I guess 0.6 is the boundary
  27 2011-02-23T00:55:08  <MattMaker> will install_requires work even in cases where you name a version that did not technically exist? I assume it would, but just wondering
  28 2011-02-23T01:02:18  * MattMaker muses about setting up a continuous build server
  29 2011-02-23T01:10:23  <ThomasWaldmann> 0.6.0 = april 2010
  30 2011-02-23T01:11:21  <ThomasWaldmann> we can require that. it will be at least 1.5y old when moin2 gets nearer to release.
  31 2011-02-23T01:11:55  <MattMaker> ok. confirmed also with release notes, linked in push comment
  32 2011-02-23T01:12:28  * ThomasWaldmann tries to find out why our storage stuff is so complicated for the revision timestamp
  33 2011-02-23T01:13:30  <MattMaker> ThomasWaldmann, I am blocked at a similar issue of revisions, coming from the fs19 backend
  34 2011-02-23T01:18:07  <MattMaker> I am noticing that we use the term uuid incorrectly, it is supposed to mean universally unique
  35 2011-02-23T01:19:59  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, so what exactly is incorrect?
  36 2011-02-23T01:20:25  <MattMaker> a database field by that name should be unique, *and* it should not appear in any other database fields so named
  37 2011-02-23T01:20:56  <MattMaker> well, there is something about it setting uuid=name # XXX in there
  38 2011-02-23T01:21:15  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that's just because it is not really implemented yet
  39 2011-02-23T01:22:04  <MattMaker> I have been poking at those spots in the code and experimenting
  40 2011-02-23T01:22:22  <ThomasWaldmann> (and I used name because that is currently at least unique, so it doesn't immediately blow up :)
  41 2011-02-23T01:23:32  <MattMaker> but it isn't unique
  42 2011-02-23T01:23:37  <MattMaker> :)
  43 2011-02-23T01:25:51  <MattMaker> or rather, if you intend for revisions to exist with name + revision together as the primary key for revisions, then need to take the unique constraint off of name
  44 2011-02-23T01:26:19  <MattMaker> I don't yet understand the model, still learning it
  45 2011-02-23T01:26:54  <MattMaker> seems that some of the model is in the indexing, and some of it is in the underlying filesystem
  46 2011-02-23T01:28:14  <ThomasWaldmann> what code location are you referring to?
  47 2011-02-23T01:28:58  <MattMaker> I'm not, really
  48 2011-02-23T01:29:07  <MattMaker> am thinking of the data set
  49 2011-02-23T01:30:36  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the uuid is referring to an (kind of anonymous) item
  50 2011-02-23T01:31:17  <ThomasWaldmann> items could change their name from revision to revision, because the current name is in revision metadata
  51 2011-02-23T01:31:30  <ThomasWaldmann> but they never would change their uuid
  52 2011-02-23T01:33:19  <MattMaker> so it gives the same information as "table name + id in that table"
  53 2011-02-23T01:34:15  <MattMaker> ah, except there can be multiple backends at once?
  54 2011-02-23T01:35:13  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
  55 2011-02-23T01:35:34  <ThomasWaldmann> there are even multiple wikis at once, globally
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  63 2011-02-23T05:59:27  <MattMaker> yay, I got the fs19 backend to read my wiki data with the revisions included
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  83 2011-02-23T12:05:56  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  85 2011-02-23T12:19:48  <MattMaker> the situation has improved
  86 2011-02-23T12:20:22  <MattMaker> mostly in that I now have more interesting problems than I did previously.
  87 2011-02-23T12:20:32  <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
  88 2011-02-23T12:20:50  <ThomasWaldmann> fix one problem, get 2 new ones for free :D
  89 2011-02-23T12:20:54  <MattMaker> yes!
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  92 2011-02-23T12:42:50  <MattMaker> I could just cheat in my fs19 and for items that have had name changes, just go set all revision names to be the same as the current name :P
  93 2011-02-23T12:48:19  <ThomasWaldmann> well, i think we could document it and live with it
  94 2011-02-23T12:48:56  <ThomasWaldmann> fs19 also has issues with deleted items, due to the change how "deletion / trashing" works in moin2 vs 1.9
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  96 2011-02-23T14:10:09  <dreimark> moin
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 111 2011-02-23T16:12:43  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: see MM
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 113 2011-02-23T16:15:09  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the js only works on moin2, see issue tracker
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 120 2011-02-23T16:32:15  <dreimark> can bitbucket notify somehow ?
 121 2011-02-23T16:32:26  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
 122 2011-02-23T16:33:26  <dreimark> what do i have to set that i get an info about a new issue?
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 124 2011-02-23T16:34:31  <dreimark> btw. that pull down functionality below the Issues(3) is nicer as our More (Actions)
 125 2011-02-23T16:34:53  <ThomasWaldmann> do you have a bb account?
 126 2011-02-23T16:35:03  <dreimark> yes and i followef
 127 2011-02-23T16:35:06  <dreimark> s/f/d
 128 2011-02-23T16:35:51  <ThomasWaldmann> do the issues show up in your dashboard?
 129 2011-02-23T16:36:36  <dreimark> ah ok, i see
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 158 2011-02-23T20:56:56  <dreimark> ronny: is it possible to have a bot which sends bb issues to the channel?
 159 2011-02-23T21:03:28  <ronny> dreimark: i dont think there is one yet
 160 2011-02-23T21:03:40  <ronny> i suppose we might want to pester them a bit about one
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 165 2011-02-23T22:24:26  <dreimark> https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issue/2519
 166 2011-02-23T22:25:17  <xorAxAx> we could also write our own one
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