1 2011-02-28T00:57:07 *** Pranav_rcmas
2 2011-02-28T01:10:45 *** izibi
3 2011-02-28T01:26:31 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: why 170 failures?
4 2011-02-28T01:27:09 <ThomasWaldmann> 32 failed, 2505 passed, 26 skipped, 3 xfailed, 5 xpassed in 438.95 seconds
5 2011-02-28T01:32:16 *** Pranav_rcmas
6 2011-02-28T01:33:12 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 29:87a2f219a310 2.0/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fix pep8 issues
7 2011-02-28T01:33:19 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 30:32b471240a8a 2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): merged main
8 2011-02-28T01:33:29 <ThomasWaldmann> minus 3 fails
9 2011-02-28T01:36:43 *** Pranav_rcmas
10 2011-02-28T01:39:12 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 31:084ee90bd176 2.0/MoinMoin/util/chartypes_create.py: chartypes_create: do not execute the main code if the module is just imported
11 2011-02-28T01:43:18 *** Pranav_rcmas
12 2011-02-28T01:55:32 *** Pranav_rcmas
13 2011-02-28T02:03:58 *** Pranav_rcmas
14 2011-02-28T02:05:22 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 32:15f746a76acd 2.0/docs/devel/translate.rst: translator docs: fix some markup errors
15 2011-02-28T02:09:27 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 33:8ab329ca6d6e 2.0/setup.py: require sphinx (needed to build the docs)
16 2011-02-28T02:58:30 *** Trip_
17 2011-02-28T03:09:16 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 34:adaaf414f80f 2.0/MoinMoin/util/python_compatibility.py: remove python_compatibility module, not needed any more
18 2011-02-28T03:30:19 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 35:bd7ddd27cd8e 2.0/docs/conf.py: sphinx config: do not modify sys.path (not needed, we are in a virtualenv)
19 2011-02-28T03:30:21 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 36:fe43d37ca0ef 2.0/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): docstrings: fix some typos in field names / field syntax
20 2011-02-28T03:44:33 *** cosmos_thought_
21 2011-02-28T03:47:13 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 37:74a543f57ce7 2.0/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): docstrings: fix some typos, move some (c) infos to comments
22 2011-02-28T03:48:21 *** cosmos_thought
23 2011-02-28T04:09:30 *** RogerHaase
24 2011-02-28T04:14:25 *** RogerHaase
25 2011-02-28T04:34:42 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 38:1d8e9b1153d6 2.0/MoinMoin/ (60 files in 17 dirs): docstrings: convert epydoc fields to rst/sphinx fields
26 2011-02-28T05:03:44 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 39:23c10f59e082 2.0/docs/devel/api/ (30 files): add api docs, automatically created by sphinx-autopackage-script
27 2011-02-28T06:04:35 *** Marchael
28 2011-02-28T06:30:52 *** Marchael
29 2011-02-28T06:44:20 *** Trip__
30 2011-02-28T06:46:21 *** Trip_
31 2011-02-28T07:03:04 *** Marchael
32 2011-02-28T08:02:51 *** Marchael
33 2011-02-28T08:14:56 *** Marchael
34 2011-02-28T08:17:53 *** Marchael
35 2011-02-28T08:31:02 *** gwork
36 2011-02-28T09:03:07 <dreimark> moin
37 2011-02-28T09:06:19 *** Marchael
38 2011-02-28T09:13:13 <dreimark> different system, strange py.test problem
39 2011-02-28T09:13:21 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/345647/
40 2011-02-28T09:28:44 *** kasun
41 2011-02-28T09:35:46 *** Marchael
42 2011-02-28T10:48:09 <CIA-46> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 549:e75fc2c81653 extensions/data/plugin/macro/pdf2svg.py: macro.pdf2svg: identifier for updated content based on last modification time added
43 2011-02-28T10:48:11 <CIA-46> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 550:f927d699ca0e extensions/data/plugin/macro/pdf2svg.py: macro.pdf2svg: checks timestamp of content for updating cached image
44 2011-02-28T10:49:24 <dreimark> fsck rollback had not worked as expected
45 2011-02-28T10:50:17 <dreimark> this should have been only one commit
46 2011-02-28T10:51:33 *** greg_f
47 2011-02-28T11:06:31 <CIA-46> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 551:025a4f729389 extensions/data/plugin/macro/pdf2svg.py: macro.pdf2svg: unified link to pdf file
48 2011-02-28T11:36:37 <CIA-46> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 552:d30ae1dca471 extensions/data/plugin/macro/pdf2svg.py: macro.pdf2svg: checks if attachment or URL exists
49 2011-02-28T12:26:45 *** Pranav_rcmas
50 2011-02-28T12:47:55 *** Pranav_rcmas
51 2011-02-28T12:51:09 *** Pranav_rcmas
52 2011-02-28T13:00:30 *** Pranav_rcmas
53 2011-02-28T14:11:24 *** Pranav_rcmas
54 2011-02-28T14:40:22 *** kasun
55 2011-02-28T15:40:28 *** dulotie
56 2011-02-28T15:53:32 *** sl33k_
57 2011-02-28T15:55:02 *** RogerHaase
58 2011-02-28T16:13:54 <dulotie> no discussion? hehe
59 2011-02-28T16:21:19 <ThomasWaldmann> hi dulotie
60 2011-02-28T16:21:26 <ThomasWaldmann> it's not like radio :D
61 2011-02-28T16:22:01 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: btw, i think i misunderstood you when you asked about wget.exe and 7za.exe
62 2011-02-28T16:22:14 <dulotie> hi =D
63 2011-02-28T16:22:36 <ThomasWaldmann> i meant it is fine to use them from the scripts, but I didn't mean that the exe files should be committed to repo
64 2011-02-28T16:23:36 <ThomasWaldmann> but you maybe could recreate your bb repo anyway. you cloned it from the main repo and as you didn't use "fork" on the bb UI, bb now does not know the repos are related.
65 2011-02-28T16:24:05 <ThomasWaldmann> but that would be nice to have, so that I see your incoming changesets better. :)
66 2011-02-28T16:31:42 *** Pranav_rcmas
67 2011-02-28T16:31:47 *** Pranav_rcmas
68 2011-02-28T16:33:38 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: OK, I will reclone bitbucket repo.
69 2011-02-28T16:36:38 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: The chance of any Windows system of having wget.exe and 7za.exe in the system path are near zero.
70 2011-02-28T16:39:11 *** gwork
71 2011-02-28T16:40:12 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I looked for alternatives to wget.exe and 7za.exe, but could find nothing better. Ideas?
72 2011-02-28T16:44:11 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: about the wget/7za: yes. but we also just require some stuff on linux systems and don't bundle the binaries. :) of course probability there is much higher...
73 2011-02-28T16:44:27 <ThomasWaldmann> same for mac, bsd, ...
74 2011-02-28T16:44:55 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe the script could try calling them and see if they are there and if not, just tell the user?
75 2011-02-28T16:54:04 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: maybe the return code is useful for that?
76 2011-02-28T16:55:11 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: about alternatives, i still search someone to adopt the xstatic idea and implement it :D
77 2011-02-28T16:55:55 <ThomasWaldmann> then we would not need to manually call wget/tar/gzip/zip
78 2011-02-28T17:03:15 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: What is xstatic idea?
79 2011-02-28T17:03:35 <ThomasWaldmann> http://etherpad.osuosl.org/xstatic
80 2011-02-28T17:08:46 <dreimark> RogerHaase: it is quite easy to write a replacement for wget in python
81 2011-02-28T17:08:57 <dreimark> and same counts too for unzipping
82 2011-02-28T17:09:26 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
83 2011-02-28T17:12:20 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but as long as we do not need that for moin itself anyway, it would be also additional unrelated stuff in the repo
84 2011-02-28T17:12:36 <dreimark> urllib.urlretrieve(url_of_zip_file, destination_on_local_filesystem).
85 2011-02-28T17:18:38 <dreimark> not based on any binaries is also good. may be there is already something on pypi that can be installed optional
86 2011-02-28T17:26:15 <ThomasWaldmann> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.wsgi.fanstatic/152 seems like that discussion is going nowhere
87 2011-02-28T17:32:57 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: do you think xstatic would make sense?
88 2011-02-28T17:35:40 <RogerHaase> I would agree that writing the wget/unzip in Python makes sense. I worry that the installation process is getting more/too complex. How many people will be turned off by needing an internet connection to install Moin.
89 2011-02-28T17:38:01 <ThomasWaldmann> well, that is unrelated to the static stuff, rather a general issue if we fetch stuff from pypi
90 2011-02-28T17:40:07 <dreimark> and we can do that at release package time, now we are in development process
91 2011-02-28T17:40:48 <dreimark> if we package we can decide to do it with dependencies or not+
92 2011-02-28T17:41:11 <dreimark> but the repository should be kept small
93 2011-02-28T17:47:46 <RogerHaase> I am thinking of the number of installation related problems users are having now. Will new users be able to describe a problem and will someone else be able to recognize what went wrong?
94 2011-02-28T17:53:32 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, the lots of stuff setup.py is emitting is not very helpful. especially since there is quite some stuff that can be ignored, but a new user won't know.
95 2011-02-28T17:56:09 <RogerHaase> By writing it in python, we can control the output better - maybe only 6 success/fail messages for 6 downloads.
96 2011-02-28T17:57:37 <ThomasWaldmann> and by packaging it would be the same mechanism for the static stuff as for the py stuff :)
97 2011-02-28T17:58:03 <ThomasWaldmann> including a downloader and unpacker for free :)
98 2011-02-28T17:58:45 <dreimark> good point
99 2011-02-28T17:59:06 <dreimark> if you don't want to have it in the core code we can keep it separated
100 2011-02-28T18:00:09 <dreimark> it is anyway more a independent tool
101 2011-02-28T18:00:56 <dreimark> and i wonder if we are the first wanting that
102 2011-02-28T18:01:50 <dreimark> brb
103 2011-02-28T18:07:41 <RogerHaase> I am not sure we are thinking the same -- I was thinking of a mini-static -- a python program to read a config file with url:directory pairs. Reads the url and unzips to the related directory.
104 2011-02-28T18:08:20 <RogerHaase> :d should be url : directory
105 2011-02-28T18:15:21 *** Pranav_rcmas
106 2011-02-28T18:24:23 * ThomasWaldmann just tries to implement xstatic
107 2011-02-28T18:25:06 <ThomasWaldmann> it is maybe not that clear from the etherpad (as there are also all sorts of additional ideas described), but it is intended as a very simple thing
108 2011-02-28T18:32:25 <RogerHaase> rereading the etherpad...
109 2011-02-28T18:32:57 <ThomasWaldmann> just the static files + some metadata
110 2011-02-28T18:41:58 *** xjjk
111 2011-02-28T18:53:07 <ThomasWaldmann> >>> from xstatic.pkg import jquery
112 2011-02-28T18:53:07 <ThomasWaldmann> >>> jquery.LOCATIONS.get(('local', 'dir'))
113 2011-02-28T18:53:07 <ThomasWaldmann> '/home/tw/w/xstest/lib/python2.6/site-packages/xstatic/pkg/jquery/data/'
114 2011-02-28T18:53:44 <ThomasWaldmann> >>> jquery.LOCATIONS.get(('google', 'https'))
115 2011-02-28T18:53:44 <ThomasWaldmann> 'https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.5.1/'
116 2011-02-28T18:59:56 <RogerHaase> Sorry, I don't understand xstatic. I think I will be of more use doing other things.
117 2011-02-28T19:01:22 <ThomasWaldmann> it is just using python package infrastructure instead of homegrown wget/unzip/untar
118 2011-02-28T19:01:42 <ThomasWaldmann> so we can require it in setup.py
119 2011-02-28T19:06:38 <RogerHaase> That is only the first ... of the many parts I do not understand...
120 2011-02-28T19:07:53 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, python packaging. welcome to teh jungle. :D
121 2011-02-28T19:24:38 *** greg_f
122 2011-02-28T20:10:10 <RogerHaase> moin
123 2011-02-28T20:10:42 <RogerHaase> oops, wrong window!
124 2011-02-28T20:26:35 *** franklin_
125 2011-02-28T20:29:10 *** franklin
126 2011-02-28T20:37:32 *** cosmos_thought_
127 2011-02-28T20:55:21 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I deleted bb repo, created a new fork, and uploaded my changes. (minus wget, etc. plus TOC restyling)
128 2011-02-28T20:57:06 <ThomasWaldmann> 5 incoming changesets found in bb+http://RogerHaase/moin-2.0
129 2011-02-28T20:57:09 <ThomasWaldmann> works :)
130 2011-02-28T21:00:15 <RogerHaase> There is a problem in moin change, I dropped two lines related to XML import.
131 2011-02-28T21:00:19 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: that nodetype 3, is that cross-browser?
132 2011-02-28T21:01:00 <RogerHaase> Does not have to be, only looks at Firefox.
133 2011-02-28T21:03:17 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, right, "mozilla"
134 2011-02-28T21:03:30 <ThomasWaldmann> didn't you want to add your windows quickinstall.bat?
135 2011-02-28T21:04:26 <RogerHaase> quikinstall.bat will fail without wget.exe and 7za.exe
136 2011-02-28T21:06:47 <ThomasWaldmann> that like the linux quickinstall, it will also fail if wget etc. is not there
137 2011-02-28T21:07:13 <ThomasWaldmann> so you could add it until we have something better
138 2011-02-28T21:07:20 <ThomasWaldmann> (not the exes :)
139 2011-02-28T21:09:28 <RogerHaase> OK, I will add it back. (But first I need to fix the 2 lines I deleted from moin.)
140 2011-02-28T21:13:11 *** xjjk
141 2011-02-28T21:14:13 *** sl33k_
142 2011-02-28T21:35:02 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: OK, fixed moin and added quickinstall.bat and moin.bat.
143 2011-02-28T21:38:45 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, now the windows "moin" behaves different than the non-windows "moin"
144 2011-02-28T21:40:43 <RogerHaase> the windows version does activate and deactivate? Anything else?
145 2011-02-28T21:41:27 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it also talks about the server, even when not really starting it
146 2011-02-28T21:41:37 <ThomasWaldmann> didn't you maybe just want
147 2011-02-28T21:41:39 <ThomasWaldmann> python moin %*
148 2011-02-28T21:41:47 <ThomasWaldmann> in the moin.bat?
149 2011-02-28T21:42:51 <ThomasWaldmann> (btw, we have to document that stuff later, so if it behaves similar, it is less to document :)
150 2011-02-28T21:46:10 <RogerHaase> Per the moin comments, moin; moin moin; moin runserver; and moin moin --port=888 are legal...
151 2011-02-28T21:47:18 <RogerHaase> I had trouble saying moin --port=8888
152 2011-02-28T21:49:54 <RogerHaase> So I added the test to see if the first parameter was moin. Are you saying "moin --port=8888" would fail under *nix?
153 2011-02-28T21:53:02 <ThomasWaldmann> no, I mean the other moin ... commands, that don't start a server, but do some scriptlike stuff
154 2011-02-28T21:58:14 <RogerHaase> OK, I understand - moin shell fails, but python moin shell works. moin --port=8888 should fail everywhare, but moin moin ==port=8888 will work.
155 2011-02-28T21:59:20 <RogerHaase> Will simplify the script to use only python moin %*.
156 2011-02-28T22:00:23 <ThomasWaldmann> (please test it afterwards, i didn't try it)
157 2011-02-28T22:01:04 <RogerHaase> OK to leave the activate/deactivate in? Forgetting to activate is my most common error.
158 2011-02-28T22:04:50 <ThomasWaldmann> well, the "moin" doesn't do it, so it would be better not to do it in moin.bat either
159 2011-02-28T22:05:30 <ThomasWaldmann> the moin script is not the only place btw where entering the virtualenv is needed
160 2011-02-28T22:08:47 <ThomasWaldmann> (e.g. running the wsgi app in other ways, building the docs, running the tests, ...)
161 2011-02-28T22:09:05 <RogerHaase> I forget to activate before running tests as well. :(
162 2011-02-28T22:28:33 <dreimark> re
163 2011-02-28T22:32:31 <dreimark> RogerHaase: you can try one of the other commands
164 2011-02-28T22:32:59 <dreimark> e.g. /moin maint_xml -s -f data.xml --nrevs 2
165 2011-02-28T22:33:23 <dreimark> that should save a data.xml file of the wiki items
166 2011-02-28T22:33:35 <dreimark> and -l instead o -s will load it back
167 2011-02-28T22:37:00 <RogerHaase> dreimark: thanks, that works.
168 2011-02-28T22:38:58 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Finished.
169 2011-02-28T22:43:14 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 40:f4308cd49ba2 2.0/docs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): improved docs
170 2011-02-28T22:43:20 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 41:6e62b745c28d 2.0/MoinMoin/static/js/common.js: remove trailing blanks
171 2011-02-28T22:43:21 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 43:511bdff23b20 2.0/moin: fix moin startup script for windows
172 2011-02-28T22:43:24 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 45:3711bbf71add 2.0/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/common.css: restyle TableOfContents: float right, reduce width, round corners, bolder shadow
173 2011-02-28T22:43:27 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 47:026da86712e8 2.0/ (moin.bat quickinstall.bat): add windows version of quickinstall and moin scripts
174 2011-02-28T22:43:32 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 42:21e6160353bc 2.0/MoinMoin/static/js/common.js: fix bug in moinFirefoxWordBreak effecting links in global history view
175 2011-02-28T22:43:35 <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 49:5ac57ba008b5 2.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): merged bb+http://RogerHaase/moin-2.0
176 2011-02-28T22:43:36 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 44:a7fdf16d8225 2.0/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/common.css: remove trailing blanks
177 2011-02-28T22:43:43 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 46:f63fba326824 2.0/moin: replace 2 lines that were deleted in error - related to script.maint.xml refactoring
178 2011-02-28T22:43:44 <CIA-46> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 48:4d884cd29174 2.0/moin.bat: simplify script to mimic "moin" actions
179 2011-02-28T22:44:01 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: accepting of orgs is enabled
180 2011-02-28T22:57:01 <ThomasWaldmann> ok.
181 2011-02-28T22:57:06 * ThomasWaldmann fills out the form
182 2011-02-28T23:04:33 <xorAxAx> cool
183 2011-02-28T23:11:39 *** RogerHaase
184 2011-02-28T23:32:00 <Trip__> fwiw it took me a while to figure out that I needed to "put the moin twice" in "moin moin --port=8081"
185 2011-02-28T23:32:06 *** Trip__
186 2011-02-28T23:38:50 <MattMaker> for my use locally I made a bash script that activates virtualenv before running whatever other sets of commands I am doing repeatedly. That's pretty much what I do anytime I need to type in a command longer than a few characters, more than one time. I create some manner of shortcut :)
187 2011-02-28T23:47:57 <dreimark> MattMaker: i have that in my .bashrc
188 2011-02-28T23:49:06 <dreimark> MattMaker: http://playnice.ly/blog/2010/05/12/pip-virtualenv-python-library-package-management/
189 2011-02-28T23:49:15 <MattMaker> dreimark, a good point. I haven't settled on which things should go in my .bashrc vs. in a bash function vs. in a bash script
190 2011-02-28T23:50:15 <MattMaker> I am thinking about doing what some do and refactoring my bash environment into a cross-platform one that I then keep in a repository
191 2011-02-28T23:50:15 <dreimark> that blog post is quite nice
192 2011-02-28T23:52:20 <MattMaker> so far I have been using only pip, inside the virtualenv. it seems to work well.
193 2011-02-28T23:53:07 <MattMaker> I was wondering if we would want to use it to replace part of the setup.py where it says we should use some method of packaging
194 2011-02-28T23:53:14 <MattMaker> like that blog post suggests
195 2011-02-28T23:54:46 <MattMaker> also, maybe moin should use virtualenv even for the default install, similar to the way 1.9.x has the "farmconfig" stuff as default
