MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-03-01

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   2 2011-03-01T00:11:54  <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: diofeher: eSyr: ronny: TheSheep: waldi: vpv: xorAxAx: if you are interested in GSOC 2011 mentoring, make sure someone adds you to MentorGroup
   3 2011-03-01T00:12:10  <ThomasWaldmann> (I cleaned old entries)
   4 2011-03-01T00:12:16  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: add me :D
   5 2011-03-01T00:13:15  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
   6 2011-03-01T00:18:38  <dreimark> anyone else who wants to help just tell
   7 2011-03-01T00:18:57  <dreimark> some are on the other side currently (netsplit time)
   8 2011-03-01T00:19:01  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011/InitialProjectIdeas < please try helping to improve this page
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  31 2011-03-01T09:27:21  <dreimark> moin
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  36 2011-03-01T12:07:15  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  42 2011-03-01T16:32:58  <ThomasWaldmann> XQuery/XPath syntax support? /!\ for what exactly would this be good for?
  43 2011-03-01T16:33:15  <ThomasWaldmann> whoever added that to the ideas page: please clarify
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  46 2011-03-01T16:51:58  <dreimark> eSyr: ^^
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  50 2011-03-01T16:56:50  <eSyr> moin
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  52 2011-03-01T16:58:10  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: due to wiki pages represented as dom, performing xpath queries may be good idea.
  53 2011-03-01T16:58:33  <eSyr> *are repsresented
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  55 2011-03-01T16:59:06  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: but we don't store them as dom
  56 2011-03-01T16:59:44  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: iirc, do is cached, and this cache amy be integrated with search index, no?
  57 2011-03-01T16:59:49  <eSyr> *or not
  58 2011-03-01T16:59:57  <eSyr> *dom
  59 2011-03-01T17:01:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so what would the practical usecase be? can you give an example?
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  62 2011-03-01T17:23:28  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: more for plugins — filter pages in predefined fomat (e. g., bugtracking)
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  64 2011-03-01T17:24:47  <eSyr> or generating some sort of related pages in themes or so on.
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  66 2011-03-01T17:30:19  <ThomasWaldmann> for the first the question is maybe rather whether that stuff isn't metadata then (and that could be selected)
  67 2011-03-01T17:30:33  <ThomasWaldmann> not sure what you mean with the second
  68 2011-03-01T17:35:24  <CIA-46> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 50:8102f92d21b8 2.0/MoinMoin/ (18 files in 9 dirs): docstrings: fix some rst markup warnings of sphinx
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  80 2011-03-01T20:13:27  <MattMaker> somewhat amusing: in moin 1.9.x, if (as a user) I've changed the language preference to something I can't read, and I go to user preferences and change it back to my native language and save the change, the message reporting that I have successfully saved my preference changes is still (this one last time) in that other language I can't read.
  81 2011-03-01T20:17:37  <dreimark> only after saving it knows the new languafe
  82 2011-03-01T20:17:43  <dreimark> s/f/g
  83 2011-03-01T20:17:57  <dreimark> before you have the old request
  84 2011-03-01T20:22:30  <MattMaker> yeah, that makes sense.
  85 2011-03-01T20:22:45  <MattMaker> to me as a developer, not as a user, I mean :P
  86 2011-03-01T20:23:58  <MattMaker> I guess there's no easy way around that, and it's not terrible
  87 2011-03-01T20:24:34  <dreimark> only with ajax
  88 2011-03-01T20:24:48  <MattMaker> the user already knows they are changing the setting and can probably guess that they are seeing the page in the old language one last time and that it's okay
  89 2011-03-01T20:25:30  <dreimark> it is not a bug and can't be solved without a big api change
  90 2011-03-01T20:25:59  <dreimark> so it should be done in 2.0 if it is easily possible
  91 2011-03-01T20:26:09  <MattMaker> ok, I am convinced : )
  92 2011-03-01T20:26:51  <MattMaker> hmm, is there a way to notice that the language preference changed, before the first part of a response has been built?
  93 2011-03-01T20:27:20  <ThomasWaldmann> moin2 will emit much less of these "msg"s anyway
  94 2011-03-01T20:30:55  * ThomasWaldmann fixes some macros
  95 2011-03-01T20:31:15  <ThomasWaldmann> and gets rid of some crap
  96 2011-03-01T20:33:19  <MattMaker> on another topic, I have figured out how to go to the bb website and learn what two commands to type in order to merge into my repository from yours -- but is there a way (an hg command) to do it more easily? maybe a one-liner that always works with the head?
  97 2011-03-01T20:34:09  <ThomasWaldmann> hg pull -u
  98 2011-03-01T20:34:23  <MattMaker> that pulls from mine
  99 2011-03-01T20:34:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, yes, with the other repo url then
 100 2011-03-01T20:34:44  <MattMaker> aha
 101 2011-03-01T20:35:00  <MattMaker> I should maybe have guessed that
 102 2011-03-01T20:35:19  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, there is a hg extension for bb
 103 2011-03-01T20:35:21  <MattMaker> and then I can push saying "merging with [whatever?]"
 104 2011-03-01T20:36:06  <ThomasWaldmann> if you have to merge, hg will tell you about that
 105 2011-03-01T20:36:07  <MattMaker> I want to do it in a way that is the most clear for offering small changes for you to me
 106 rge
 107 2011-03-01T20:36:11  <ThomasWaldmann> then hg merge
 108 2011-03-01T20:36:18  <ThomasWaldmann> fix any conflicts
 109 2011-03-01T20:37:46  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346573/ create_item, that supplemts set_meta
 110 2011-03-01T20:39:15  <dreimark> i think i want to look if yapsi can do this annoying activating in the moin command line
 111 2011-03-01T20:39:19  <dreimark> tool
 112 2011-03-01T20:39:43  <dreimark> asap
 113 2011-03-01T20:40:40  <ThomasWaldmann> hg commit -m "merged otherreponame"
 114 2011-03-01T20:40:40  <ThomasWaldmann> and it is always a good idea to first hg pull -u before starting new work
 115 2011-03-01T20:41:48  <MattMaker> gotcha
 116 2011-03-01T20:42:07  <MattMaker> is this the good one? http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/BitbucketExtension
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 118 2011-03-01T20:45:50  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: yes
 119 2011-03-01T20:46:02  <ThomasWaldmann> not require, but bbforks -i is nice
 120 2011-03-01T20:46:09  <ThomasWaldmann> required*
 121 2011-03-01T20:48:45  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you call create_item twice
 122 2011-03-01T20:49:28  <dreimark> ops, yes.
 123 2011-03-01T20:50:34  <ThomasWaldmann> and name and mimetype is maybe not enough
 124 2011-03-01T20:50:48  <ThomasWaldmann> same for get_item, also twice
 125 2011-03-01T20:52:49  <dreimark> that whole try except (first one was left over)
 126 2011-03-01T20:53:12  <dreimark> i missed to delete it
 127 2011-03-01T20:54:38  <dreimark> it works with both alone
 128 2011-03-01T20:54:47  <dreimark> (name and mime)
 129 2011-03-01T20:55:43  <dreimark> uuid and sha1 becomes automaticly added
 130 2011-03-01T20:57:13  <dreimark> i'll add action too
 131 2011-03-01T20:59:31  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it should be a bit more flexible
 132 2011-03-01T20:59:59  <ThomasWaldmann> to accept --meta key1:value1 --meta key2:value2 or so
 133 2011-03-01T21:00:47  <ThomasWaldmann> same could be done with set_meta
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 135 2011-03-01T21:02:21  <dreimark> set_meta now can interpret lists and dicts and scalars
 136 2011-03-01T21:03:29  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, ok, then a bit more creativity is needed :)
 137 2011-03-01T21:04:11  <dreimark> yes, a further improvment to both, i commit first what i have now.
 138 2011-03-01T21:11:21  <dreimark> cia sleeps
 139 2011-03-01T21:13:14  <CIA-46> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 51:0814fedc9020 2.0/ (moin MoinMoin/script/maint/create_item.py): script.maint.create: creates an item by cli
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 143 2011-03-01T22:41:56  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346651/
 144 2011-03-01T22:42:31  <dreimark> just a simple example for getting cli scripts managed by yapsy
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 146 2011-03-01T22:57:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: it needs that foo.yapsy-plugin for each plugin?
 147 2011-03-01T23:00:53  <dreimark> i have not found to ommit it yet. I shortened the description already
 148 2011-03-01T23:01:37  <dreimark> the plugin is missing if it becomes removed
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 150 2011-03-01T23:28:34  <dreimark> gn
 151 2011-03-01T23:44:10  <Trip_> ThomasWaldmann this change appears to be needed in fs19, otherwise any single missing line (revision) in the edit-log file will cause *all* subsequent revisions for that item to not be found, because the iterator for LogFile is exhausted: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/346679/
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 153 2011-03-01T23:45:33  <MattMaker> (a couple of the larger edit-log files in my moin 1.9.3 wiki are missing the first revision, which triggers this bug)
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