MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-03-08

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   8 2011-03-08T08:33:28  <MattMaker> oh
   9 2011-03-08T08:33:40  <MattMaker> pip uninstall may be problematic for extras
  10 2011-03-08T08:34:39  <MattMaker> (with my patch that makes pip bring in needed extras)
  11 2011-03-08T09:02:44  <CIA-50> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5769:c5ba615fdeeb 1.9/wiki/config/wikiconfig.py: config.wikiconfig: default theme modernized
  12 2011-03-08T09:11:30  <MattMaker> odd, you can't do for example: python ../../setup.py install
  13 2011-03-08T09:12:00  <MattMaker> I would expect it to catch something and explain the problem rather than bomb out with a missing directory message
  14 2011-03-08T09:21:41  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: isn't ``text`` not the same as <<Verbatim(text)>> macro
  15 2011-03-08T09:21:51  <dreimark> is it still needed?
  16 2011-03-08T09:34:00  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  17 2011-03-08T09:34:22  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: it is not the same
  18 2011-03-08T09:41:14  <dreimark> ok, then i try to fix it
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  22 2011-03-08T10:29:10  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/350023/ do we really need a regex to get the text between () ?
  23 2011-03-08T10:29:16  <dreimark> no rawstr?
  24 2011-03-08T10:30:22  <dreimark> content is empty and arguments separated positonal and keywords
  25 2011-03-08T11:26:47  <CIA-50> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 99:906941e7cb6b 2.0/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py: i18n: use babel to determine supported languages for accept_languages best match, add debug logging
  26 2011-03-08T11:28:05  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: yes, that is a known problem (not only with verbatim)
  27 2011-03-08T11:28:18  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe waldi has an idea, he wrote that arg parser
  28 2011-03-08T11:34:27  <waldi_> which problem?
  29 2011-03-08T11:39:18  <aa_> could link with analytics, ads, and even export content to docs
  30 2011-03-08T11:39:27  <aa_> oops totally wrong window
  31 2011-03-08T11:39:29  <aa_> sorry
  32 2011-03-08T11:39:45  <waldi_> ThomasWaldmann: this have to read Verbatim("text"), or we need to define another form of macros
  33 2011-03-08T11:40:33  <ThomasWaldmann> problem is existing content
  34 2011-03-08T11:41:49  <waldi_> which needs to go through a converter anyway
  35 2011-03-08T11:42:18  <waldi_> or extend the arguments parser for the moinwiki 1.9 parser
  36 2011-03-08T11:43:15  <ThomasWaldmann> but we don't have that converter :)
  37 2011-03-08T12:03:34  <dreimark> or just have an additional parameter having the raw content
  38 2011-03-08T12:04:21  <dreimark> waldi_: ^
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  41 2011-03-08T12:49:42  <dreimark> users are usually no programmers and won't use "" syntax
  42 2011-03-08T12:50:09  <dreimark> bbl
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  49 2011-03-08T14:57:31  <dreimark> re
  50 2011-03-08T15:42:41  <MattMaker>  made a "minor" correction to my patch: pip uninstall now takes note of extras as well (if they were installed by pip), and recursively prompts to uninstall them. This doesn't solve the whole political package manager uninstaller dependency graph crisis, but it does the Right Thing in terms of pip. I also make a special-case exception for 'distribute' and 'setuptools', so that a user doesn't accidentally install those. (you can o
  51 2011-03-08T15:42:41  <MattMaker> course still uninstall them explicitly, i.e., "pip uninstall distribute".)
  52 2011-03-08T15:44:12  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: how was your patch received by the pip devs?
  53 2011-03-08T15:44:50  <MattMaker> "Hi Matt, pretty crunched in the runup to PyCon but I'd like to take a look at this at PyCon or soon after."
  54 2011-03-08T15:46:42  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, yeah, pycon
  55 2011-03-08T15:47:19  <MattMaker> the correction was very tiny also: https://bitbucket.org/MattMaker/pip/changeset/4a967b7de7ad
  56 2011-03-08T15:49:11  <MattMaker> it's funny how patching an unfamiliar codebase works out... at first it's tons of changes, but eventually it's just a few lines
  57 2011-03-08T15:57:12  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moinplugin btw, if you have ideas about that, feel free to add them
  58 2011-03-08T16:06:31  <MattMaker> of course, when I comment there it isn't logged in the way that irc is... does the etherpad stay up forever?
  59 2011-03-08T16:06:58  <dreimark> ugly patch http://paste.pocoo.org/show/350228/
  60 2011-03-08T16:07:31  <dreimark> for getting raw input string
  61 2011-03-08T16:07:33  * MattMaker discovers the etherpad timeslider playback and is amused
  62 2011-03-08T16:08:51  <dreimark> MattMaker: it stays long but we should do an export from time to time
  63 2011-03-08T16:11:21  <dreimark> hmm, we can only avoid "" syntax  if it is just 1 parameter
  64 2011-03-08T16:37:11  <MattMaker> time for a soak in a hot bath with a good novel to read
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  66 2011-03-08T17:01:41  <ThomasWaldmann> MattMaker: yes, you need to trust all plugin code (answering your etherpad q.)
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  72 2011-03-08T19:35:08  <CIA-50> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 100:1857720a1372 2.0/docs/examples/config/wikiconfig.py: update wikiconfig.py example
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  74 2011-03-08T21:39:55  <ThomasWaldmann> could someone help checking whether removing the rev.size property would do any harm?
  75 2011-03-08T21:40:25  <ThomasWaldmann> I think about just storing the size into metadata when saving a revision
  76 2011-03-08T21:41:52  <ThomasWaldmann> (it might be a bit redundant it the backend store also has the size available somehow, but it makes the code easier)
  77 2011-03-08T21:41:59  <ThomasWaldmann> if*
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  80 2011-03-08T22:58:45  <dreimark> http://komunitasweb.com/2009/03/sphinx-search-introduction/
  81 2011-03-08T22:58:57  <dreimark> sounds like a name conflict
  82 2011-03-08T23:02:25  <dreimark> http://sphinxsearch.com/about/sphinx/
  83 2011-03-08T23:03:06  <dreimark> The community edition is distributed under GPLv2 that allows both commercial and non-commercial usage of Sphinx, and also allows inclusion of Sphinx in other free, open GPL programs.
  84 2011-03-08T23:21:09  <ThomasWaldmann> sounds like needing a separate server process
  85 2011-03-08T23:21:51  <ThomasWaldmann> and if it is gpl v2 *only*, it can also make troubles in case we want to upgrade from v2+ to v3+
  86 2011-03-08T23:53:21  <ThomasWaldmann> seem to work quite ok with size as metadata entry