MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-03-23

   1 2011-03-23T00:15:57  <dreimark> grad: i think you can co mentor but not be a main mentor
   2 2011-03-23T00:16:23  <dreimark> because you don't be familiar with moin-2
   3 2011-03-23T00:23:39  <dreimark> we don't have seen you much interacting with the community too
   4 2011-03-23T00:26:49  <dreimark> .oO sinha we had something similiar before
   5 2011-03-23T00:27:42  <dreimark> what do we do now with the free space?
   6 2011-03-23T00:50:32  <dreimark> sinha: http://www.web-toolbox.net/webtoolbox/menues/menue-bsp11/menue-bsp11.htm something like that for subitemes index would be nice
   7 2011-03-23T00:51:03  <dreimark> with mimetype dependent icons
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  31 2011-03-23T09:11:36  <sl33k_> Why i dont see the changes i make after running from the workdir?
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  34 2011-03-23T09:37:42  <dreimark> moin
  35 2011-03-23T09:37:58  <dreimark> sl33k_: rephrase please, what do you mean by "see the changes"
  36 2011-03-23T09:40:00  <sl33k_> dreimark: i changed some easy code in my workdir, then quickinstalled and ran the server, but no changes i made i see
  37 2011-03-23T09:40:23  <sl33k_> *that i made
  38 2011-03-23T09:42:00  <dreimark> sl33k_: you need only once run ./quickinstall
  39 2011-03-23T09:42:42  <dreimark> do you see a new .pyc file of your changed code file?
  40 2011-03-23T09:43:28  <dreimark> if not then you may have a bug in your modifications
  41 2011-03-23T09:43:36  <dreimark> and it can't be compiled
  42 2011-03-23T09:44:20  <dreimark> sl33k_: diff of your changes on pastebin please
  43 2011-03-23T09:47:28  <sl33k_> dreimark: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/358175/ incomplete code?
  44 2011-03-23T09:50:27  <sl33k_> and no .pyc
  45 2011-03-23T10:02:43  <dreimark> sl33k_: line 26?
  46 2011-03-23T10:02:51  <dreimark> there are some lines missing
  47 2011-03-23T10:03:58  <dreimark> you can also ask pylint opinion e.g. moin-2.0$ pylint MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py
  48 2011-03-23T10:04:49  <dreimark> there should be no new E of your lines added
  49 2011-03-23T10:04:50  <sl33k_> dreimark: it is incomplete, i am writing code for getting items a user has contributed too
  50 2011-03-23T10:05:14  <dreimark> well it can only compile if it is functional valid code
  51 2011-03-23T10:05:33  <dreimark> and if it can't you don't see some of your changes
  52 2011-03-23T10:06:48  <dreimark> xorAxAx: do you know some pylint report generator for bug reports
  53 2011-03-23T10:06:58  <dreimark> based on E:?
  54 2011-03-23T10:07:09  <dreimark> or a unit test which covers that?
  55 2011-03-23T10:07:11  <sl33k_> yea, i am somewhat blocked in this task. this is login user's contributed items? where do i look for metadata?
  56 2011-03-23T10:07:43  <sl33k_> also do i need a new template?
  57 2011-03-23T10:08:19  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i dont understand
  58 2011-03-23T10:09:17  <dreimark> xorAxAx: if we run pylint it may show errors and warnings
  59 2011-03-23T10:10:08  <dreimark> do you know a tool which can create bitbucket issue reports for each error
  60 2011-03-23T10:11:40  <dreimark> sl33k_: which IDE do you use?
  61 2011-03-23T10:11:49  <sl33k_> gedit
  62 2011-03-23T10:13:11  <dreimark> do you have considered to use eclipse and pydev for example?
  63 2011-03-23T10:13:43  <sl33k_> i have emacs, not much familiar with it
  64 2011-03-23T10:14:55  <sl33k_> installing pydev
  65 2011-03-23T10:17:47  <dreimark> install also bpython
  66 2011-03-23T10:18:22  <dreimark> that can be helpfull too
  67 2011-03-23T10:18:54  <sl33k_> ok
  68 2011-03-23T10:28:12  <dreimark> sl33k_: if you have an account on a moin-2 wiki
  69 2011-03-23T10:28:18  <dreimark> and you create a test page
  70 2011-03-23T10:28:32  <dreimark> the meta of the revision looks like this
  71 2011-03-23T10:28:40  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/358190/
  72 2011-03-23T10:28:56  <dreimark> you have to look for userid of each revision
  73 2011-03-23T10:29:36  <dreimark> use the configured attribute
  74 2011-03-23T10:29:39  <dreimark> from MoinMoin.config import USERID
  75 2011-03-23T10:31:44  <dreimark> sl33k_: moin shelll supports ipython, so install that too
  76 2011-03-23T10:33:28  <sl33k_> dreimark: how would i roughly get all the pages i contributed to? is there a need for separate template?
  77 2011-03-23T10:34:40  <xorAxAx> dreimark: no, i think it would be rather pointless
  78 2011-03-23T10:35:32  <dreimark> sl33k_: you get all items similiar to _orphans
  79 2011-03-23T10:36:04  <dreimark> and then you have to look at your own USERID and collect where it is used on this items
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  81 2011-03-23T10:38:41  <dreimark> sl33k_: you have to look on all revisions of the item
  82 2011-03-23T10:39:05  <Marchael> moin
  83 2011-03-23T10:40:00  <dreimark> sl33k_: you can search for "get_revision"
  84 2011-03-23T10:40:07  <dreimark> bbl
  85 2011-03-23T10:40:16  <sl33k_> dreimark: cool
  86 2011-03-23T10:50:15  <dreimark> if you want to try out some stuff on the interpreter looks at >moin shell
  87 2011-03-23T10:50:59  <dreimark> htg
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 117 2011-03-23T19:38:47  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: Hello
 118 2011-03-23T19:38:50  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: I tried changing the item view on top bar you can see it here http://web.iiit.ac.in/~akash.sinhaug08/moin/Home.html
 119 2011-03-23T19:38:52  <sinha_> ThomasWaldmann: If this thing is cool..i guess we can workout on the items at footer part
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 126 2011-03-23T19:47:55  <dreimark> sinha: see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-03-23#CA-e4b7d0d7c9146f7d72350e923c643bf4b4e80222_4
 127 2011-03-23T19:48:01  <dreimark> htg, bbl
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 132 2011-03-23T20:25:10  <sinha> dreimark: okay so you want to show that menu item based on mime time like in the content part or in top menu item i.e for Show,Delete,Modify ?
 133 2011-03-23T20:26:22  <dreimark> sinha: for the mimetype
 134 2011-03-23T20:26:44  <dreimark> it is just an idea to get more information about what the subitem is
 135 2011-03-23T20:26:56  <sinha> dreimark: Like for a pdf item in the content we can have a icon against it
 136 2011-03-23T20:26:57  <sinha> ?
 137 2011-03-23T20:27:22  <dreimark> yes, and also show how the hierarchy like a tree looks like
 138 2011-03-23T20:27:34  <sinha> hierarchy for what..i didnt get it
 139 2011-03-23T20:27:43  <dreimark> this is a item
 140 2011-03-23T20:27:51  <dreimark> and this is a item/subitem
 141 2011-03-23T20:28:42  <sinha> can you show this in any reference or at any link ?
 142 2011-03-23T20:28:46  <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in/+index/item
 143 2011-03-23T20:28:55  <dreimark> this is how it looks currently
 144 2011-03-23T20:30:55  <dreimark> currently we show only one level
 145 2011-03-23T20:31:26  <dreimark> but a subitem can also have other subitems http://test.moinmo.in/+index/item/subitem
 146 2011-03-23T20:32:12  <dreimark> in principle not only a tree structure is nice also some kind of navigation, moving, drag and drop
 147 2011-03-23T20:32:33  <sinha> okay it means in the index page of a item..we can show the tree like structure for each subitem , right ?
 148 2011-03-23T20:33:31  <dreimark> yes and may be also something similar for the global one
 149 2011-03-23T20:33:33  <dreimark> http://test.moinmo.in/+index?item_name=item%2Fsubitem
 150 2011-03-23T20:34:32  <dreimark> now that only shows the items without subitems
 151 2011-03-23T20:34:48  <sinha> for each item on the index page i have to fetch their subitems and initially keep it hidden and when user click on it i can show its subtiems..like that
 152 2011-03-23T20:35:38  <dreimark> and may be a flag to open all, or close all
 153 2011-03-23T20:35:45  <sinha> yes
 154 2011-03-23T20:36:38  <sinha> okay i get the concept..but i still am confused in thing that from where what variable is reaching to a template and how and from where to call functions to get a sub item
 155 2011-03-23T20:36:45  <dreimark> also some filter would be nice mimetype or name
 156 2011-03-23T20:36:54  <sinha> okay
 157 2011-03-23T20:37:11  <sinha> is reading about jinja2 will be helpful
 158 2011-03-23T20:37:15  <dreimark> yes
 159 2011-03-23T20:37:47  <sinha> and in the docs how MoinMoin works is it valid for moin2.0 or for moin1.9x ?
 160 2011-03-23T20:40:13  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/8b811bdef521/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py#l495
 161 2011-03-23T20:40:45  <dreimark> sinha: http://static.moinmo.in/m2/html/ this is moin2 docs
 162 2011-03-23T20:41:21  <dreimark> on the lines l495++ index = item.flat_index()
 163 2011-03-23T20:41:54  <dreimark> is then send to the template global_index.html by render_template
 164 2011-03-23T20:42:25  <sinha> okay and where is function to get index of any item
 165 2011-03-23T20:42:34  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/8b811bdef521/MoinMoin/templates/global_index.html
 166 2011-03-23T20:42:40  <dreimark> lets continue here
 167 2011-03-23T20:43:16  <dreimark> you have a python like syntax
 168 2011-03-23T20:43:40  <sinha> yes
 169 2011-03-23T20:43:49  <dreimark> index was inputted
 170 2011-03-23T20:44:12  <dreimark> also you can call fuctions like url_for
 171 2011-03-23T20:45:05  <sinha> here i am getting the item name ..now i have to fetch the subitems for each item ..
 172 2011-03-23T20:45:21  <dreimark> sinha: which ide do you use ?
 173 2011-03-23T20:45:28  <sinha> vim
 174 2011-03-23T20:45:32  <dreimark> do you have one with search capability
 175 2011-03-23T20:45:39  <sinha> yes
 176 2011-03-23T20:45:57  <dreimark> then just search for the views call
 177 2011-03-23T20:46:22  <sinha> okay..but how do i call a function from the template file itself
 178 2011-03-23T20:46:55  <sinha> because i am getting the item name in template file itself..i have to call a function to retrieve its subitems from there ..
 179 2011-03-23T20:48:18  <dreimark> you can setup init_jinja_globals, but maybe we have that function already
 180 2011-03-23T20:49:26  * dreimark uses eclipse and pydev
 181 2011-03-23T20:50:03  <sinha> okay ..and also on has to go deeper and deeper  so one wont be knowing upto what level we are having a subitem..its like recusrion ?
 182 2011-03-23T20:51:18  <sinha> How about doing it with ajax ?
 183 2011-03-23T20:51:51  <sinha> we can fetch the subitems dynamically if it exists for a item  ?
 184 2011-03-23T20:52:43  <dreimark> ajax is welcome - and someone who maintains it also
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 186 2011-03-23T20:53:25  <dreimark> on many places, later on for search too
 187 2011-03-23T20:54:29  <sinha> i am willing to do it in ajax
 188 2011-03-23T20:54:55  <sinha> i just need some initial push..like in general whenever a file is called..all templates are loaded
 189 2011-03-23T20:55:09  <sinha> what if we just want to load some text only ?
 190 2011-03-23T20:56:20  <sinha> can i create a any template like item_ajax.html and into it i can only have list of subitems..not the whole layout
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 193 2011-03-23T21:22:10  <dreimark> sinha: look at some of the modify_* templates
 194 2011-03-23T21:22:33  <dreimark> it depends where it becomes rendered
 195 2011-03-23T21:22:59  <sinha> in these files that layou.html isn't being called
 196 2011-03-23T21:23:01  <dreimark> if you have to use layout
 197 2011-03-23T21:23:47  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0/file/8b811bdef521/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py#l261
 198 2011-03-23T21:23:50  <dreimark> e.g.
 199 2011-03-23T21:23:52  <dreimark> ^
 200 2011-03-23T21:24:23  <sinha> and when this function is called
 201 2011-03-23T21:24:25  <sinha> ?
 202 2011-03-23T21:24:43  <sinha> like for url +index which function gets called ? how to identify those functions ?
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