1 2011-04-11T04:03:23 *** MattMaker
2 2011-04-11T04:25:25 *** MattMaker
3 2011-04-11T04:40:33 *** diofeher
4 2011-04-11T04:41:23 *** diofeher
5 2011-04-11T04:43:46 *** diofeher
6 2011-04-11T04:45:17 *** diofeher
7 2011-04-11T06:28:32 *** Marchael
8 2011-04-11T07:49:55 *** andialbrecht_
9 2011-04-11T09:08:14 <dreimark> moin
10 2011-04-11T09:08:42 <dreimark> using a RAM disk by mount -t tmpfs -o size=1024M tmpfs /tmp/data
11 2011-04-11T09:08:54 <dreimark> gives 210 failed, 3681 passed, 218 skipped, 1 xfailed, 7 xpassed, 90 error in 1983.63 seconds
12 2011-04-11T09:09:15 <dreimark> for backend fs
13 2011-04-11T09:32:26 <dreimark> running the memory backend (default)
14 2011-04-11T09:32:36 <dreimark> 50 failed, 2332 passed, 25 skipped, 4 error, 7 xpassed in 166.41 seconds
15 2011-04-11T09:33:55 <dreimark> There is a difference for more than 1000 tests in both environments
16 2011-04-11T09:34:57 <dreimark> (I used for the memory backend test a fresh clone=
17 2011-04-11T09:36:08 <dreimark> bbl
18 2011-04-11T09:43:21 *** andialbrecht
19 2011-04-11T10:59:42 *** greg_f
20 2011-04-11T11:16:54 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
21 2011-04-11T11:56:25 *** Marchael
22 2011-04-11T15:50:52 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: xorAxAx: some more rankings and comments on melange would be nice
23 2011-04-11T15:51:09 <ThomasWaldmann> jek: ^^
24 2011-04-11T15:51:31 <waldi> yep
25 2011-04-11T15:52:27 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: yes, when is the deadline?
26 2011-04-11T15:53:47 <dreimark> xorAxAx: April 22nd: 19:00 UTC
27 2011-04-11T15:54:17 <xorAxAx> thanks
28 2011-04-11T15:55:18 <ThomasWaldmann> do it early :)
29 2011-04-11T16:04:45 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: did you apply as mentor for mailman?
30 2011-04-11T16:05:09 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: yep. no answer
31 2011-04-11T16:05:14 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather for psf)
32 2011-04-11T16:05:26 <ThomasWaldmann> ok :| i did also, no answer...
33 2011-04-11T16:06:36 <xorAxAx> you need to write to arc
34 2011-04-11T16:06:41 <xorAxAx> with an explanation
35 2011-04-11T16:12:09 *** MattMaker
36 2011-04-11T16:16:54 <ThomasWaldmann> i submitted a request via melange, with an explanation
37 2011-04-11T16:29:21 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: greetings from kai / kblin to you via #gsoc
38 2011-04-11T16:30:21 *** MattMaker
39 2011-04-11T16:30:37 <xorAxAx> the ol' gsoc list flamer
40 2011-04-11T16:36:46 <waldi> kai?
41 2011-04-11T16:37:03 <xorAxAx> yeah
42 2011-04-11T16:37:09 <waldi> shit happens
43 2011-04-11T16:37:44 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: it is not easy to filter out the moinmoin projects right now. my list include 38 proposals
44 2011-04-11T16:45:59 *** Marchael
45 2011-04-11T16:46:23 <Marchael> moin
46 2011-04-11T16:48:58 <ThomasWaldmann> hi Marchael
47 2011-04-11T16:53:40 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: what can I do now to grow up my chances with GSoC. Start implementing index or improve my proposal or something?
48 2011-04-11T16:53:51 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/369666/
49 2011-04-11T16:54:37 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: did you already contribute some code to moin?
50 2011-04-11T16:55:12 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: sure
51 2011-04-11T16:56:12 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: textcha
52 2011-04-11T16:56:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, right :)
53 2011-04-11T17:00:55 <ThomasWaldmann> i have just added a comment to melange
54 2011-04-11T17:03:47 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: maybe first concentrate on order, then on the timing
55 2011-04-11T17:04:39 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. you write unit tests all the time, so that's not specifically happening in some specific week
56 2011-04-11T17:05:31 <ThomasWaldmann> also, you maybe should not rip out sqla stuff until you have completed an equivalent thing, including tests
57 2011-04-11T17:06:48 <ThomasWaldmann> have a look at what whoosh offers and what we can use for moin "as is" and what we need to extend/customize
58 2011-04-11T17:17:49 <dreimark> bbl
59 2011-04-11T17:26:41 *** Marchael
60 2011-04-11T17:26:50 *** Marchael
61 2011-04-11T17:38:01 *** Marchael
62 2011-04-11T17:38:07 *** Marchael
63 2011-04-11T17:59:44 *** Marchael
64 2011-04-11T18:01:51 *** Marchael
65 2011-04-11T19:46:14 *** greg_f
66 2011-04-11T20:11:48 <dreimark> re
67 2011-04-11T20:24:14 *** ronny
68 2011-04-11T20:31:08 *** ronny
69 2011-04-11T20:51:50 *** m4k3r
70 2011-04-11T21:34:10 *** Marchael
71 2011-04-11T22:04:48 *** tacianomm
72 2011-04-11T22:05:03 <tacianomm> Hello ThomasWaldmann
73 2011-04-11T22:05:40 <tacianomm> I'm answering your comment to my proposal right now
74 2011-04-11T22:06:18 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, hi tacianomm
75 2011-04-11T22:08:21 <tacianomm> I'm quite new on this thing of GSoC and IRC
76 2011-04-11T22:08:35 <tacianomm> So I'm getting used with it
77 2011-04-11T22:11:33 <tacianomm> But wait a second this is MoinMoin Developer Channel, are you developer on Mailman too?
78 2011-04-11T22:11:59 <tacianomm> (Dumb question, but just to make sure)
79 2011-04-11T22:12:55 <ThomasWaldmann> no, but mailman wants to use moin wiki in future
80 2011-04-11T22:13:53 <ThomasWaldmann> i just asked them for mentor access so i can follow your project
81 2011-04-11T22:14:37 <ThomasWaldmann> because IF you'll do that, it is important that you do it the right way, which is maybe not obvious
82 2011-04-11T22:16:23 <tacianomm> Aw, ok
83 2011-04-11T22:16:46 <tacianomm> So I'll work on this project directly with you?
84 2011-04-11T22:17:23 <tacianomm> Or you're just going to check it and help a little?
85 2011-04-11T22:18:25 <ThomasWaldmann> well, you'll likely need lots of help for this so yes, we'll help with mentoring the moin part of it
86 2011-04-11T22:19:35 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0 < see there about how moin 2.0 works
87 2011-04-11T22:20:22 <ThomasWaldmann> tacianomm: you should likely target doing it using moin2 infrastructure for some reasons
88 2011-04-11T22:21:45 <tacianomm> Ok, I'll take a look on that
89 2011-04-11T22:22:10 <ThomasWaldmann> the stuff you want is the DOM converters
90 2011-04-11T22:22:48 <ThomasWaldmann> like confluence markup -> DOM, DOM -> moin markup
91 2011-04-11T22:24:48 <ThomasWaldmann> the left part is your TODO, the right part exists (but maybe needs more testing/fixes)
92 2011-04-11T22:24:49 <tacianomm> This one http://moinmo.in/DOM-wiki%20converter%202010 ?
93 2011-04-11T22:25:42 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, dmitry wrote that last year
94 2011-04-11T22:27:03 <tacianomm> So I need to keep going on his work...
95 2011-04-11T22:27:05 <tacianomm> I see...
96 2011-04-11T22:27:15 <ThomasWaldmann> that's one part of your problem you have to solve
97 2011-04-11T22:27:45 <ThomasWaldmann> the other part is accessing the input data from confluence and storing the result data into something usable for moin
98 2011-04-11T22:28:26 <ThomasWaldmann> if moin == moin 2.0, then you already have some writable storage backend.
99 2011-04-11T22:29:09 <ThomasWaldmann> if moin == moin 1.9, then you'll need a writable fs19 backend (it is currently r/o, because we intended it only for conversion 1.9 -> 2.0, not vice versa)
100 2011-04-11T22:30:31 *** pkumar
101 2011-04-11T22:31:09 <ThomasWaldmann> the decision whether 1.9 or 2.0 should happen rather late. if moin2 develops fast enough, one can maybe just use that and not look back at 1.9.
102 2011-04-11T22:31:34 <dreimark> bbl
103 2011-04-11T22:39:51 <tacianomm> Ahn.. right
104 2011-04-11T22:41:30 <tacianomm> So I have to talk with the mentor of this project on this
105 2011-04-11T22:42:09 <ThomasWaldmann> about the dom stuff, talk to waldi and other people you meet here
106 2011-04-11T22:44:16 <ThomasWaldmann> for the confluence stuff, you'll have to look at what you can get out of confluence. waldi mentioned that there is an xml export that might be usable.
107 2011-04-11T22:45:19 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: i think a direct conversion between the two formats may be more stable. on first look it is simple
108 2011-04-11T22:46:13 <ThomasWaldmann> direct from what to what?
109 2011-04-11T22:47:19 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: im not sure what changed, but the pytest2 branch has a lot less fail since merging reecent default
110 2011-04-11T22:47:20 <waldi> from confluence to moin
111 2011-04-11T22:47:58 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: i think your setup/teardown change has some interesting effects
112 2011-04-11T22:48:48 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: well, there was one bad bug (c&p caused), some other change removed unsupported nesting, and it tries to close some stuff now
113 2011-04-11T22:49:34 <tacianomm> waldi: Directly without using xml?
114 2011-04-11T22:50:09 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: i'll go and compare again
115 2011-04-11T22:50:48 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: that might render the pytest 'porting' minior'
116 2011-04-11T22:51:00 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: but still, memory usage is high (430MB), but down from 1100MB
117 2011-04-11T22:51:35 <ronny> hmm, no, my stuff went wrong
118 2011-04-11T22:51:37 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: well, as i said, it is not only pytest 2 porting, it is rather a global test cleanup
119 2011-04-11T22:52:44 <ronny> damn, i fail bad, i accidentially had pytest1.3 in the env
120 2011-04-11T22:53:05 <ThomasWaldmann> heh
121 2011-04-11T22:53:14 <ThomasWaldmann> FFF
122 2011-04-11T22:53:49 <ronny> ok, back to the fails
123 2011-04-11T23:06:22 *** pkumar
124 2011-04-11T23:18:20 *** tacianomm
125 2011-04-11T23:22:58 *** tacianomm
126 2011-04-11T23:23:17 <tacianomm> Hello again
127 2011-04-11T23:24:58 <tacianomm> I'm here again just to say that we'll have to talk more later
128 2011-04-11T23:25:42 <tacianomm> Because now it's raining really hard here and I'm afraid of the lightnings
129 2011-04-11T23:25:56 <tacianomm> So, I talk to you later Thomas and waldi
130 2011-04-11T23:26:05 <tacianomm> Thanks for your support
131 2011-04-11T23:26:07 <tacianomm> ;)
132 2011-04-11T23:27:18 *** tacianomm
133 2011-04-11T23:46:19 <dreimark> re
134 2011-04-11T23:54:20 *** pkumar_
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