1 2011-04-24T01:49:18 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.plupload.com/license.php <- gpl v2 only
2 2011-04-24T02:19:49 *** MattMaker
3 2011-04-24T03:45:03 *** vpv
4 2011-04-24T06:48:56 *** kursor
5 2011-04-24T10:17:57 *** vpv
6 2011-04-24T10:34:31 *** kursor
7 2011-04-24T12:18:38 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://slides.html5rocks.com/#drag-and-drop
8 2011-04-24T12:47:18 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/ instead of svgweb?
9 2011-04-24T12:49:52 <dreimark> http://css3generator.com/
10 2011-04-24T13:22:30 *** greg_f
11 2011-04-24T13:30:09 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
12 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 187:f8d5d3643572 2.0/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
13 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> fix Permissions class / ACL middleware to use given user
14 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> u.may.xxx of course needs to check permissions xxx for the given User instance
15 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> u, not for flaskg.user (the user doing the current request).
16 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> Removed dirty acl tests hack that made the tests working with the now fixed
17 2011-04-24T14:53:20 <CIA-25> bug.
18 2011-04-24T15:00:50 *** kursor
19 2011-04-24T15:12:12 <dreimark> bbl
20 2011-04-24T15:45:42 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 188:cad306a58919 2.0/MoinMoin/security/__init__.py: Permissions: determine correct backend for item and query permissions at that backend
21 2011-04-24T15:52:22 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 189:2a51aa7fe632 2.0/MoinMoin/ (security/__init__.py storage/backends/acl.py): updated (c), docstring cosmetics
22 2011-04-24T16:29:47 *** kursor
23 2011-04-24T16:47:34 *** kursor
24 2011-04-24T17:20:07 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 190:31ab0478c637 2.0/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: add authorization / ACL configuration docs
25 2011-04-24T17:41:15 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 191:49d1c9f7a9c0 2.0/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: add acl processing order graphics
26 2011-04-24T17:51:28 *** kursor
27 2011-04-24T18:05:04 *** kursor
28 2011-04-24T18:05:10 *** kursor
29 2011-04-24T18:05:29 *** kursor
30 2011-04-24T18:40:00 *** Marchael
31 2011-04-24T18:40:32 <Marchael> moin
32 2011-04-24T19:17:56 <ThomasWaldmann> hi Marchael
33 2011-04-24T19:18:22 * ThomasWaldmann writes ACL docs
34 2011-04-24T19:29:12 *** greg_f
35 2011-04-24T19:38:05 *** hardy_89
36 2011-04-24T19:40:49 <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 192:ef9ec0e2a85e 2.0/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: AccessControlLists
37 2011-04-24T19:41:16 <ThomasWaldmann> hi hardy_89
38 2011-04-24T19:41:52 <hardy_89> hi ThomasWaldmann
39 2011-04-24T19:46:14 <ThomasWaldmann> and, how is it going? :)
40 2011-04-24T19:48:04 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: too much of reading these days :)
41 2011-04-24T19:49:42 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: those 8-9 days costed me too much
42 2011-04-24T19:53:02 <ThomasWaldmann> did you get anything done on the user/password tests?
43 2011-04-24T19:54:48 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: unfortunately nothing substantial yet.
44 2011-04-24T19:54:57 *** MattMaker
45 2011-04-24T19:55:33 <ThomasWaldmann> never give up :)
46 2011-04-24T19:56:48 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: i still haven't quit...i'm on with it. even gave it as a synopsis for my final year project in my college.
47 2011-04-24T19:57:08 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: now i have to do it :)
48 2011-04-24T19:57:25 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: that's how you make yourself work ;)
49 2011-04-24T19:59:38 <ThomasWaldmann> if you have any specific questions, just directly ask them here
50 2011-04-24T20:01:31 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: i need to stuff my head with few things before i do that
51 2011-04-24T20:12:59 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: i'm onto to it...soon you'll smell something coming up :)
52 2011-04-24T20:20:58 <ThomasWaldmann> lots to catch up :)
53 2011-04-24T20:22:32 *** ronny
54 2011-04-24T20:22:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the 2 email addresses you gave, that is both your personal mailboxes and both at gmail, right?
55 2011-04-24T20:22:59 *** ronny
56 2011-04-24T20:23:52 <hardy_89> ThomasWaldmann: yes yes
57 2011-04-24T20:36:45 <ThomasWaldmann> well, the point why we have asked for an alternate contact is that we can contact you or someone near you in case something unexpected happens
58 2011-04-24T20:37:18 <ThomasWaldmann> 2 email addresses of same person at same provider are likely no good for that purpose
59 2011-04-24T20:38:15 <dreimark> re
60 2011-04-24T20:39:21 <dreimark> hardy_89: just ask if you want to be directed into "some" way
61 2011-04-24T20:42:15 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can we use the uid of an item also in a way for acls and group definitions
62 2011-04-24T20:42:41 <dreimark> so that altering after renaming of a user name is not necessary
63 2011-04-24T20:47:55 <ThomasWaldmann> basically yes, but that's not easy / not practicable
64 2011-04-24T20:49:38 *** kursor
65 2011-04-24T20:49:46 <ThomasWaldmann> (that a rather general issue, not limited to users, groups, acls - items and item links is same thing, just any kind of reference)
66 2011-04-24T20:50:54 *** Marchael
67 2011-04-24T20:53:18 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: somehow it is an item which has a internal constant id and on the view always an alias
68 2011-04-24T20:54:04 <dreimark> in unix this is solved by the passwd file
69 2011-04-24T20:54:24 <dreimark> that is just a table for the mapping
70 2011-04-24T20:54:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i am thinking about that stuff since quite a while, but you can't manually handle this
71 2011-04-24T20:55:18 <ThomasWaldmann> one would need another translation which translates uuids before giving it to the user (to edit, to see)
72 2011-04-24T20:55:47 <dreimark> we should look from linux point of view. i think we are not far different
73 2011-04-24T20:55:54 <dreimark> you login by your user name
74 2011-04-24T20:56:14 <dreimark> you set chown by the user name too
75 2011-04-24T20:57:29 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that is the translation layer i mentioned
76 2011-04-24T20:57:59 <ThomasWaldmann> it uses numerical ids internally, but if it shows something or lets you change something, it uses the names
77 2011-04-24T20:58:23 <dreimark> the user is not able to change the uid
78 2011-04-24T20:58:40 <ThomasWaldmann> vim passwd :)
79 2011-04-24T20:58:54 <dreimark> yes as root but not as common user
80 2011-04-24T21:00:24 <ThomasWaldmann> well, as I said, it's on my mind since quite a while. but i don't see this for 2.0, maybe not even for 2.1
81 2011-04-24T21:00:37 <ThomasWaldmann> we have so much of higher priority to do
82 2011-04-24T21:00:42 <dreimark> hmm, can't we just always use the uid number and just have a view module for the interpretation
83 2011-04-24T21:01:01 <dreimark> true
84 2011-04-24T21:01:25 <ThomasWaldmann> you'ld need another converter layer for uuids<->names
85 2011-04-24T21:02:08 <dreimark> yes and flask to generate the url based on the uid
86 2011-04-24T21:02:34 <dreimark> so that we don't see all the time cryptic numbers
87 2011-04-24T21:03:24 <dreimark> htg
88 2011-04-24T21:03:27 <dreimark> bbl
89 2011-04-24T21:03:28 <ThomasWaldmann> no, no uuids in urls, that's ugly
90 2011-04-24T21:03:39 <ThomasWaldmann> at least not by default
91 2011-04-24T21:03:46 <dreimark> yes, agreed - that must be dynamical replaced
92 2011-04-24T21:03:56 <dreimark> they wait for me already.
93 2011-04-24T21:04:03 <dreimark> try to be online in 3h
94 2011-04-24T22:18:42 * ThomasWaldmann looks at jquery file-upload
95 2011-04-24T23:16:05 <dreimark> re
96 2011-04-24T23:45:56 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, we have some fundamental issues with drag&drop uploading
97 2011-04-24T23:46:15 <ThomasWaldmann> we should have metadata, but of course that way, we get none
98 2011-04-24T23:46:32 <ThomasWaldmann> (except the auto-generated stuff)
