MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-05-22

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   8 2011-05-22T11:01:53  <Marchael> moin
   9 2011-05-22T11:12:54  <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: hi, as you'll free, please visit ep
  10 2011-05-22T11:39:48  <ThomasWaldmann> hi Marchael
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  15 2011-05-22T12:48:30  <Marchael> Usually i start moin2 via env/bin/moin, but now I got "AttributeError: Metadata of already existing revisions may not be altered."
  16 2011-05-22T12:49:07  <Marchael> btw, I user quickinstall before that
  17 2011-05-22T12:49:17  <Marchael> s/user/use/
  18 2011-05-22T12:49:57  <ThomasWaldmann> if you are in the virtual env, you just need "moin" to start it
  19 2011-05-22T12:50:30  <ThomasWaldmann> that error can happen if you try to load the xml into the backend twice
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  22 2011-05-22T13:06:58  <Marchael> ImportError: No module named cmdline
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  24 2011-05-22T13:08:41  <Marchael> from what package I can get cmdline module?
  25 2011-05-22T13:09:13  <Marchael> I'm using python 2.7
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  27 2011-05-22T13:13:46  <ThomasWaldmann> what do you want to do?
  28 2011-05-22T13:13:54  <Marchael> start moin
  29 2011-05-22T13:14:44  <Marchael> I just typed moin, and get this error
  30 2011-05-22T13:14:59  <ThomasWaldmann> full traceback > pastebin
  31 2011-05-22T13:18:03  <Marchael> http://pastebin.com/binzALqM
  32 2011-05-22T13:21:01  <ThomasWaldmann>  /usr/bin/moin ?
  33 2011-05-22T13:21:37  <ThomasWaldmann> why aren't you installing it as documented, using virtualenv?
  34 2011-05-22T13:22:33  <Marchael> hm, where is it documented?
  35 2011-05-22T13:23:15  <ThomasWaldmann> docs/...
  36 2011-05-22T13:23:27  <Marchael> I'm using hg and ./quickinstall for installing\updating
  37 2011-05-22T13:23:30  <Marchael> ok
  38 2011-05-22T13:23:37  <ThomasWaldmann> there is also a link in the wiki
  39 2011-05-22T13:24:51  <ThomasWaldmann> with quickinstall, stuff doesn't get into /usr/bin
  40 2011-05-22T13:25:46  <Marchael> but I don't put it to /usr/bin
  41 2011-05-22T13:27:22  <ThomasWaldmann> who else? :)
  42 2011-05-22T13:28:09  <ThomasWaldmann> you even have given it root rights to do so
  43 2011-05-22T13:29:06  <Marchael> may be, I try different ways to run it :)
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  45 2011-05-22T13:33:08  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i suggest you clean up (remove) the stuff you installed to system locations
  46 2011-05-22T13:33:39  <ThomasWaldmann> (i.e. everything moin below /usr/ )
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  48 2011-05-22T13:40:55  <Marchael> done
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  52 2011-05-22T14:56:25  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: suppose i want to create a fresh local repo on my pc, can i use the earlier installed virtual env ?
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  54 2011-05-22T15:49:26  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: only if you use same path
  55 2011-05-22T15:49:47  <ThomasWaldmann> (that's because of the python code)
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  60 2011-05-22T17:36:18  <pkumar> xorAxAx: hi
  61 2011-05-22T17:36:44  <pkumar> xorAxAx: well, the coding starts from tomorrow. :)
  62 2011-05-22T17:37:20  <pkumar> so, how does it work? I think I just need to code and push to my repo right?
  63 2011-05-22T17:38:04  <xorAxAx> pkumar: yep
  64 2011-05-22T17:38:18  <xorAxAx> pkumar: you could also setup cia with your repo
  65 2011-05-22T17:38:28  <xorAxAx> then it appears here in the channel
  66 2011-05-22T17:38:55  <xorAxAx> thats just an option at bitbucket
  67 2011-05-22T17:39:17  <pkumar> lemme see. I didn't notice yet.
  68 2011-05-22T17:44:33  <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: btw, please create your diary page, you'll need it starting tomorrow
  69 2011-05-22T17:45:09  <ThomasWaldmann> (also applies for all other students)
  70 2011-05-22T17:45:42  <pkumar> Diary page, Is it to mention my work for the day?
  71 2011-05-22T17:46:06  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2011 please read that page, completely
  72 2011-05-22T17:46:34  <pkumar> okay
  73 2011-05-22T17:54:07  <Marchael> ok
  74 2011-05-22T17:55:07  <ThomasWaldmann> for the top diary page, one case use <<MonthCalendar>>, which creates subpages per day.
  75 2011-05-22T17:55:16  <ThomasWaldmann> can use* %)
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  85 2011-05-22T21:09:01  <dreimark> moin
  86 2011-05-22T21:09:18  * dreimark suggest to add to .bashrc http://paste.pocoo.org/show/393272/
  87 2011-05-22T21:11:32  <dreimark> and use virtualenvwrapper
  88 2011-05-22T21:12:03  <dreimark> see http://mathematism.com/2009/07/30/presentation-pip-and-virtualenv/
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  92 2011-05-22T21:36:40  * ThomasWaldmann works on modify/_save handler cleanup
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  97 2011-05-22T22:27:39  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: i have created a fresh repo and started moin using the old installed environment, pages are coming on browser but when i modify( create) any item, i get this error -->>  AssertionError: wanted: u'str' have: 'unicode' name: u'mimetype' value: u'text/x.moin.wiki'
  98 2011-05-22T22:29:19  <ThomasWaldmann> just kill the storage dirs you have and reload them freshly
  99 2011-05-22T22:30:22  <dreimark> sinha: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2011-05-22#CA-f427c2f84ca0553931463777c23f5fb48a8925b1_85
 100 2011-05-22T22:30:44  <dreimark> if you want to have always the env active - I do.
 101 2011-05-22T22:31:31  <dreimark> for that problem a rm -r wiki and hg revert wiki solves that too
 102 2011-05-22T22:32:27  <sinha> dreimark: as i did some unwanted commits in my repo, i wanted to start with a new repo
 103 2011-05-22T22:34:41  <dreimark> sinha: i know. how did you manage to get AssertionError: wanted: u'str' ... in a fresh wiki?
 104 2011-05-22T22:35:36  <sinha> dreimark: i just tried creating a new item
 105 2011-05-22T22:36:59  <dreimark> hmm, i try to reproduce that
 106 2011-05-22T22:40:50  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is something changed for sqla?
 107 2011-05-22T22:40:53  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/393345/
 108 2011-05-22T22:41:09  <ThomasWaldmann> not recently
 109 2011-05-22T22:41:37  <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is known in principly and always happens if metadata value types are inconsistent
 110 2011-05-22T22:42:06  <dreimark> that is a fresh clone
 111 2011-05-22T22:42:25  <dreimark> and it happens with starting the server
 112 2011-05-22T22:43:38  <ThomasWaldmann> looks like a sqla change. version?
 113 2011-05-22T22:43:42  <dreimark> aha, it is updated
 114 2011-05-22T22:43:50  <dreimark> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/SQLAlchemy
 115 2011-05-22T22:44:41  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, add a condition to setup.py until fixed
 116 2011-05-22T22:45:47  <dreimark> ok, my last working version was 0.6.6
 117 2011-05-22T22:45:59  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: sqlalchemy.__version__
 118 2011-05-22T22:46:02  <dreimark> is ?
 119 2011-05-22T22:47:16  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.sqlalchemy.org/trac/wiki/07Migration#Thesqlalchemy.exceptionsaliasinsys.modulesisremoved
 120 2011-05-22T22:47:20  <ThomasWaldmann> just fix it
 121 2011-05-22T22:48:20  <dreimark> ok
 122 2011-05-22T22:53:44  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do we want to require 0.7 now?
 123 2011-05-22T22:58:12  <ThomasWaldmann> no
 124 2011-05-22T22:59:13  <ThomasWaldmann> if it can be just done with a few fixes, we don't need setup.py changes
 125 2011-05-22T22:59:40  <ThomasWaldmann> if we find out that some 0.7 stuff doesn't work with 0.6.0 (but 0.6.1), we can still change it
 126 2011-05-22T23:01:48  <dreimark> ok, doing it by exceptions
 127 2011-05-22T23:15:35  <ThomasWaldmann> hm?
 128 2011-05-22T23:16:44  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/393373/
 129 2011-05-22T23:17:05  <dreimark> currently trying
 130 2011-05-22T23:17:33  <ThomasWaldmann> did you read that link?
 131 2011-05-22T23:20:21  <dreimark> ok, i misread one line
 132 2011-05-22T23:20:51  <ThomasWaldmann> it's exc now, that's all
 133 2011-05-22T23:21:10  <dreimark> "but they should also start using the exc name."
 134 2011-05-22T23:21:15  <dreimark> so i should not?
 135 2011-05-22T23:21:21  <ThomasWaldmann> they didn't say since when, though
 136 2011-05-22T23:21:30  <ThomasWaldmann> so you could look at 0.6.0 to find out
 137 2011-05-22T23:29:13  <dreimark> simpler
 138 2011-05-22T23:44:43  <CIA-69> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 235:187a36c04c59 2.0/MoinMoin/storage/backends/ (fs19.py fs2.py): sqlalchemy.exceptions was removed in 0.7 of sqlalchemy. Since at least 0.6 the import for the core exception module is "from sqlalchemy import exc".
 139 2011-05-22T23:52:21  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: they rest works with 0.7?