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   2 2011-09-14T01:01:59  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: see latest push
   3 2011-09-14T01:08:20  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: whoos has support for sort order groups in tip
   4 2011-09-14T01:11:13  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: and probably best of each group by next week
   5 2011-09-14T01:12:44  <ThomasWaldmann> cool :)
   6 2011-09-14T01:13:20  <ThomasWaldmann> i was just thinking about adding a context manager to Index objects, but the close() of it is just "pass", so ...
   7 2011-09-14T01:25:14  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, if i use relpath/mtime as revids of the fileserver backend, i can effectively update the whoosh index :D
   8 2011-09-14T01:32:57  <ronny> good thinking
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  29 2011-09-14T08:32:46  <dreimark> moin
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  31 2011-09-14T09:13:29  <dreimark> bbl
  32 2011-09-14T10:15:28  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  34 2011-09-14T10:42:52  <ronny> moin
  35 2011-09-14T10:54:27  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: looks like mchaput implemented what we need (looked at his latest cs) :)
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  40 2011-09-14T12:55:53  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: pushed acl support proof-of-concept
  41 2011-09-14T13:01:27  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: not sure if i can take a look today
  42 2011-09-14T13:52:39  <ThomasWaldmann> Item just got much easier and more versatile
  43 2011-09-14T14:02:20  <dreimark> re
  44 2011-09-14T14:02:22  <dreimark> :)
  45 2011-09-14T14:24:52  <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: (in case you read this in the backlog) maybe you can help with serialization
  46 2011-09-14T14:25:35  <ThomasWaldmann> storage-ng is quite different, so it could use a quite simpler serialization format than moin2 current storage implementation
  47 2011-09-14T14:26:23  <ThomasWaldmann> but, there might be people with content in moin2, so i guess we (you :) need a way to get the content out of current storage and back into storage-ng
  48 2011-09-14T14:27:13  <ThomasWaldmann> i currently feel quite optimistic that storage-ng will replace current storage
  49 2011-09-14T14:31:26  <ThomasWaldmann> 8 weeks left until we should release "something", btw :)
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  51 2011-09-14T16:15:30  <ThomasWaldmann> hi brunomartin
  52 2011-09-14T16:15:38  <ThomasWaldmann> (14:23) < ThomasWal> brunomartin: (in case you read this in the backlog) maybe you can help with serialization
  53 2011-09-14T16:15:41  <ThomasWaldmann> (14:23) < ThomasWal> storage-ng is quite different, so it could use a quite simpler serialization format than moin2 current storage implementation
  54 2011-09-14T16:15:44  <ThomasWaldmann> (14:24) < ThomasWal> but, there might be people with content in moin2, so i guess we (you :) need a way to get the content out of current storage and back into storage-ng
  55 2011-09-14T16:15:47  <ThomasWaldmann> (14:25) < ThomasWal> i currently feel quite optimistic that storage-ng will replace current storage
  56 2011-09-14T16:15:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (14:29) < ThomasWal> 8 weeks left until we should release "something", btw :)
  57 2011-09-14T16:16:57  <brunomartin> hi ThomasWaldmann!
  58 2011-09-14T16:22:36  <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: Great job!
  59 2011-09-14T16:24:03  <brunomartin> ThomasWaldmann: but you're thinking  stop using xml, or simplify the xml?
  60 2011-09-14T16:25:11  <brunomartin> \me is taking a look at storage-ng
  61 2011-09-14T16:25:18  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe for the data migration you need (right?) something xml based would be easier
  62 2011-09-14T16:25:32  <ThomasWaldmann> we can later either do simpler xml or json
  63 2011-09-14T16:35:42  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
  64 2011-09-14T16:40:44  <brunomartin> maybe would be easier to convert actual xml to simpler xml or json after it's specified and then load it.
  65 2011-09-14T16:43:19  <ronny> isnt there need for legacy importers later on anyway?
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  67 2011-09-14T16:49:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: we won't support migration for different alphas of moin2
  68 2011-09-14T16:50:25  <ThomasWaldmann> but for own needs, we might do some quick hacks
  69 2011-09-14T16:50:38  <ThomasWaldmann> we need to support migration from 1.9.latest, though
  70 2011-09-14T16:51:34  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: how does 1.9 latest export stuff?
  71 2011-09-14T16:51:41  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe first specifying new serialization format and then doing some quick hack for current storage api is best
  72 2011-09-14T16:51:51  <ronny> hmk
  73 2011-09-14T16:52:31  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: the current moin2 storage code has fs19, which makes a 1.9 storage usable read-only for moin2
  74 2011-09-14T16:53:15  <ThomasWaldmann> that still needs to be done for storage-ng at some time
  75 2011-09-14T16:54:20  <ThomasWaldmann> but I think we can do that after implanting storage-ng
  76 2011-09-14T16:55:39  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, there's a sqlite3 storage now :D
  77 2011-09-14T16:55:53  <ThomasWaldmann> fun to write storages for -ng
  78 2011-09-14T16:56:25  <ronny> then its correct i guess :)
  79 2011-09-14T16:57:11  <ThomasWaldmann> typical code size: 2kB
  80 2011-09-14T17:01:26  <ronny> how much was it before?
  81 2011-09-14T17:01:43  <ronny> i dont remember, so probably much
  82 2011-09-14T17:11:29  <dreimark> wow
  83 2011-09-14T17:38:55  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: MUCH more
  84 2011-09-14T17:39:52  <ThomasWaldmann> fs2 16K, hg 28K, sqla 26K, flatfile 6K, fileserver 7K
  85 2011-09-14T17:40:13  <ThomasWaldmann> but: those were full backends, not just stores
  86 2011-09-14T17:40:35  <ThomasWaldmann> storages backend storage-ng = 5K
  87 2011-09-14T17:40:54  <ThomasWaldmann> fileserver backend storage-ng = 4K
  88 2011-09-14T17:41:06  <ronny> so we got a pretty good ratio :)
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 132 2011-09-14T23:54:47  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, looks like we maybe will have GAE compatibly storage in reach
 133 2011-09-14T23:55:21  <ThomasWaldmann> using a kvstore backend for that, like available for django

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