1 2011-11-23T00:01:22  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i need to drive home, bbl / tomorrow
   2 2011-11-23T00:01:26  <izibi> this works: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511659/
   3 2011-11-23T00:01:40  <izibi> running this two times in a view breaks stuff: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511656/
   4 2011-11-23T00:01:49  <izibi> what's the difference?
   5 2011-11-23T00:03:18  <izibi> i think i've found the problem
   6 2011-11-23T00:03:27  <izibi> let's see
   7 2011-11-23T00:03:55  <jbillsgci11> ThomasWaldmann: I am done. Had to edit html_out.py though. Ill submit a patch soon. I needz food
   8 2011-11-23T00:05:03  <ThomasWaldmann> great :)
   9 2011-11-23T00:05:06  <ThomasWaldmann> brb
  10 2011-11-23T00:05:30  <izibi> yes
  11 2011-11-23T00:05:35  <izibi> can't be true...
  12 2011-11-23T00:06:02  <izibi> 'openid': form['openid'].value, <-- there's your problem
  13 2011-11-23T00:07:41  <izibi> next question: WHY does the openid parameter break everything
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  15 2011-11-23T00:14:31  <izibi> i guess this is the gci of bugs :D
  16 2011-11-23T00:21:43  <izibi> so what to do with that openid stuff
  17 2011-11-23T00:22:40  <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511665/
  18 2011-11-23T00:28:50  <jbillsgci11> I have submitted what will hopefully be my last piece of work. I have looked over the patch. It has everything it needs.
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  20 2011-11-23T00:58:51  <ThomasWaldmann> re
  21 2011-11-23T00:59:39  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: why is that a problem? because the form does not have that key?
  22 2011-11-23T01:03:41  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: why is that needed?
  23 2011-11-23T01:03:53  <ThomasWaldmann> (i mean the changes in the diff)
  24 2011-11-23T01:06:17  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: still there?
  25 2011-11-23T01:06:24  <jbillsgci11> yup
  26 2011-11-23T01:06:41  <ThomasWaldmann> the h4 is missing the font size
  27 2011-11-23T01:06:55  <jbillsgci11> It wasnt there orriginally
  28 2011-11-23T01:07:03  <ThomasWaldmann> wouldn't it be better and more consistent to have it?
  29 2011-11-23T01:07:07  <ThomasWaldmann> ah.
  30 2011-11-23T01:07:32  <jbillsgci11> It would be more consistent though
  31 2011-11-23T01:07:52  <jbillsgci11> I didnt know if someone had removed it for a reason though
  32 2011-11-23T01:08:24  <ThomasWaldmann> the text-deco none is for what?
  33 2011-11-23T01:09:15  <jbillsgci11> a line started appearing underneath the paragraph icon
  34 2011-11-23T01:09:32  <jbillsgci11> I did not think it was supposed to be there
  35 2011-11-23T01:10:33  <ThomasWaldmann> the underlining line or another one?
  36 2011-11-23T01:10:54  <jbillsgci11> the underlining
  37 2011-11-23T01:11:02  <jbillsgci11> so un undecorated it
  38 2011-11-23T01:11:08  <jbillsgci11> oops
  39 2011-11-23T01:11:15  <jbillsgci11> one un to many
  40 2011-11-23T01:12:02  <ThomasWaldmann> so the underlining now is broken into 2 pieces on hover?
  41 2011-11-23T01:12:52  <jbillsgci11> what do you mean?
  42 2011-11-23T01:13:11  <ThomasWaldmann> there is one long line under the heading, even on hover?
  43 2011-11-23T01:13:24  <jbillsgci11> yup
  44 2011-11-23T01:13:30  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  45 2011-11-23T01:13:34  <jbillsgci11> do you want it gone on hover
  46 2011-11-23T01:13:38  <jbillsgci11> ?
  47 2011-11-23T01:13:43  <jbillsgci11> not to hard to do
  48 2011-11-23T01:13:58  <ThomasWaldmann> i'll just apply your patch and look myself :)
  49 2011-11-23T01:14:03  <jbillsgci11> ok
  50 2011-11-23T01:17:55  <izibi> 23:13 < ThomasWaldmann> that looks like correct if you want to create an authenticated user <-- that's why i've changed the way to fetch the user, i don't know whats better
  51 2011-11-23T01:18:06  <izibi> but this doesn't really change anything
  52 2011-11-23T01:18:26  <izibi> the only relevant change is omitting the openid kwarg to create_user
  53 2011-11-23T01:18:58  <izibi> i don't know why, but then it doesn't work any more
  54 2011-11-23T01:19:04  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, interesting, i see other h1 :)
  55 2011-11-23T01:21:25  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: that's the problem http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511683/
  56 2011-11-23T01:22:57  <izibi> wait, let's try something
  57 2011-11-23T01:23:09  <izibi> (actually i should go to bed but who cares :D)
  58 2011-11-23T01:23:31  <jbillsgci11> I agree
  59 2011-11-23T01:23:39  <jbillsgci11> who needs sleep
  60 2011-11-23T01:23:54  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: http://localhost:8080/+history
  61 2011-11-23T01:24:37  <ThomasWaldmann> but i guess this needs some fixes at other places
  62 2011-11-23T01:24:44  <jbillsgci11> yes
  63 2011-11-23T01:25:15  <jbillsgci11> For me to remove it there then I would need to add a class tag to normal page headers
  64 2011-11-23T01:25:50  <ThomasWaldmann> http://localhost:8080/+index/
  65 2011-11-23T01:26:12  <jbillsgci11> Ya
  66 2011-11-23T01:26:23  <jbillsgci11> So about those classes...
  67 2011-11-23T01:26:28  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, can you file a bug about this, so we can solve it later?
  68 2011-11-23T01:26:40  <jbillsgci11> where do you file bugs?
  69 2011-11-23T01:26:47  <ThomasWaldmann> there should be a good plan. on bitbucket.
  70 2011-11-23T01:27:09  <jbillsgci11> Ok
  71 2011-11-23T01:27:13  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: the issue already existed before i started working on it
  72 2011-11-23T01:27:20  <izibi> you couldn't create two accounts at all
  73 2011-11-23T01:27:27  <jbillsgci11> Ill report
  74 2011-11-23T01:27:36  <izibi> as soon as you create a second one, you can't login to the first one any more
  75 2011-11-23T01:28:15  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: hah. i always only had one.
  76 2011-11-23T01:28:59  <izibi> should i just leave this line commented out and report a bug for this?
  77 2011-11-23T01:30:07  <ThomasWaldmann> you mean the openid? yes.
  78 2011-11-23T01:30:47  <izibi> what about the other two changes?
  79 2011-11-23T01:31:04  <izibi> just leave them as they are or revert them as they don't change anything?
  80 2011-11-23T01:31:38  <ThomasWaldmann> well, if they don't change anything, you don't need them
  81 2011-11-23T01:32:12  <izibi> just tell me what's the better way to get a user object ;)
  82 2011-11-23T01:33:06  <ThomasWaldmann> as it was is the usual way
  83 2011-11-23T01:34:45  <izibi> then one final test ;)
  84 2011-11-23T01:34:55  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i suggest you make it work with 1 user and file a bug about the other problem.
  85 2011-11-23T01:36:09  <izibi> if i comment out this one line, it works for more than 1 user. and i didn't get the openid stuff to work at all
  86 2011-11-23T01:37:02  <izibi> just say "commit" or "don't commit" (the change that comments out this one line) :P
  87 2011-11-23T01:38:33  <ThomasWaldmann> commit
  88 2011-11-23T01:38:52  <ThomasWaldmann> use a reasonable comment :)
  89 2011-11-23T01:41:50  <jbillsgci11> What priority would the header bug be?
  90 2011-11-23T01:43:40  <izibi> awesome!
  91 2011-11-23T01:43:50  <izibi> i love melange
  92 2011-11-23T01:43:53  <izibi> 500 <3
  93 2011-11-23T01:43:56  <ThomasWaldmann> awesome prio :D
  94 2011-11-23T01:44:01  <nickr5> ThomasWaldmann: thanks for closing the task!
  95 2011-11-23T01:45:23  <izibi> hmm, no error but didn't submit it
  96 2011-11-23T01:45:24  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: i'll commit your changes now. do you want your name in the (public) commit comment?
  97 2011-11-23T01:45:42  <jbillsgci11> If thats ok with you then yes
  98 2011-11-23T01:45:57  <ThomasWaldmann> jbills? or what shall it be?
  99 2011-11-23T01:46:27  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: anyway here's the repo: https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0
 100 2011-11-23T01:46:37  <ThomasWaldmann> sure, if you would use mercurial, you would get automatically credit as author
 101 2011-11-23T01:47:15  <jbillsgci11> Josiah
 102 2011-11-23T01:47:54  <izibi> so one year is not enough to fix this bug? come on google...
 103 2011-11-23T01:48:38  <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1074:729463ba868b 2.0/MoinMoin/ (2 files in 2 dirs): improved heading style, thanks to Josiah
 104 2011-11-23T01:49:13  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: you don't see any submission there, do you? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7122303
 105 2011-11-23T01:49:24  <jbillsgci11> Thanks!  :)
 106 2011-11-23T01:49:48  <jbillsgci11> I am at peace with myself. for a few hours anyway.
 107 2011-11-23T01:50:37  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: well, no. but as i am mentor, i am not supposed to be able to submit stuff.
 108 2011-11-23T01:50:57  <izibi> btw anyone interested in SEO bullshit? i'm getting offers since last GCI :D
 109 2011-11-23T01:51:11  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: can you compare views of task with izibi?
 110 2011-11-23T01:51:40  <ThomasWaldmann> SEO can mean a lot. some is ok, some is abuse.
 111 2011-11-23T01:53:36  <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/Ws6xxrEwgM6mRHFeFzSZ/ i guess that's spam xD
 112 2011-11-23T01:56:24  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: "occurred"
 113 2011-11-23T01:56:50  <ThomasWaldmann> "administrator"
 114 2011-11-23T01:56:53  <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0/changeset/2ab4ef921cb9
 115 2011-11-23T01:57:51  <izibi> and a trailing dot? ;)
 116 2011-11-23T01:58:16  <ThomasWaldmann> yes :)
 117 2011-11-23T01:58:30  <jbillsgci11> what do you mean compare views?
 118 2011-11-23T01:58:31  <ThomasWaldmann> also find out how we write "email", it is maybe rather "e-mail"
 119 2011-11-23T01:58:50  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: he does not seem to see a submit button
 120 2011-11-23T01:59:05  <jbillsgci11> Well i do not have the task
 121 2011-11-23T01:59:28  <jbillsgci11> but on my task I had a submit button below an upload button
 122 2011-11-23T02:00:03  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: "email" is used everywhere else in moin so i used that
 123 2011-11-23T02:00:46  <izibi> jbillsgci11: yeah right. and clicking this button either does nothing or gives you an 500 error
 124 2011-11-23T02:00:59  <jbillsgci11> hit f5 on the page
 125 2011-11-23T02:01:03  <jbillsgci11> that will fix it
 126 2011-11-23T02:01:19  <jbillsgci11> I got this multiple times
 127 2011-11-23T02:01:24  <jbillsgci11> both this year and last
 128 2011-11-23T02:01:33  <jbillsgci11> just refresh the task
 129 2011-11-23T02:01:38  <jbillsgci11> that will fix it
 130 2011-11-23T02:01:51  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ok then
 131 2011-11-23T02:01:53  <izibi> no, not really
 132 2011-11-23T02:02:04  <izibi> @jbillsgci11
 133 2011-11-23T02:02:04  <moinBot> izibi: Error: "jbillsgci11" is not a valid command.
 134 2011-11-23T02:02:13  <izibi> lol
 135 2011-11-23T02:02:18  <jbillsgci11> ummmm...
 136 2011-11-23T02:02:20  <jbillsgci11> lol
 137 2011-11-23T02:02:33  <jbillsgci11> why did the moinbot just try to command me?
 138 2011-11-23T02:02:36  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: but fix the other small typos
 139 2011-11-23T02:02:49  <izibi> i'll commit/push this and then i'll go to bed
 140 2011-11-23T02:02:54  <izibi> 5 hours of sleep left. yay :D
 141 2011-11-23T02:03:12  <jbillsgci11> good for you
 142 2011-11-23T02:03:19  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
 143 2011-11-23T02:03:45  <izibi> done
 144 2011-11-23T02:06:43  <izibi> melange - best piece of software ever
 145 2011-11-23T02:06:46  <izibi> good night
 146 2011-11-23T02:07:04  * ThomasWaldmann pulls
 147 2011-11-23T02:07:08  <jbillsgci11> by the way dont you think the moin icon should be replaced with the alpha one?
 148 2011-11-23T02:07:10  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: gn :)
 149 2011-11-23T02:07:27  <jbillsgci11> the current one has whitespace around it
 150 2011-11-23T02:08:29  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1075:e31023f329fb 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Removed code duplication in register view.
 151 2011-11-23T02:08:30  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1076:2ab4ef921cb9 2.0/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py config/default.py user.py): Implemented an email verification feature.
 152 2011-11-23T02:08:30  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1077:034805b541ce 2.0/docs/admin/install.rst: merged
 153 2011-11-23T02:08:31  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1078:f7d7c7e403c6 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Don't pass openid kwarg to create_user function as this triggers a bug that causes older accounts to disappear. This definitely needs further investigation.
 154 2011-11-23T02:08:32  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1079:5e77a3307db7 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Fixed some small typos.
 155 2011-11-23T02:08:33  <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1080:4c00ac966adf 2.0/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py config/default.py user.py): merged
 156 2011-11-23T02:09:06  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: there were times when browsers had issues with alpha. not sure if they are completely gone already.
 157 2011-11-23T02:09:23  <jbillsgci11> they should be gone by now
 158 2011-11-23T02:09:40  <ThomasWaldmann> IE on XP? :)
 159 2011-11-23T02:09:41  <jbillsgci11> could you decrease the image size by a pixel
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 161 2011-11-23T02:09:49  <jbillsgci11> probably not
 162 2011-11-23T02:10:17  <ThomasWaldmann> why decrease it?
 163 2011-11-23T02:14:12  <ThomasWaldmann> nickr5: which name should I put in the commit comment?
 164 2011-11-23T02:15:01  <nickr5> Nick Rioux
 165 2011-11-23T02:15:48  <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1081:5093b67a4791 2.0/docs/intro/ (features.rst general.rst glossary.rst): docs: introduction: proofread and improved English, thanks to Nick Rioux
 166 2011-11-23T02:17:06  <nickr5> thanks :)
 167 2011-11-23T02:17:47  <ThomasWaldmann> nickr5: btw, did you ever use mercurial?
 168 2011-11-23T02:18:21  <ThomasWaldmann> jbillsgci11: ""
 169 2011-11-23T02:18:45  <nickr5> this task was my first time using it, although i've used git before
 170 2011-11-23T02:19:09  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, so you exported the patch from hg?
 171 2011-11-23T02:19:14  <nickr5> yeah
 172 2011-11-23T02:19:44  <ThomasWaldmann> but not with hg export, right?
 173 2011-11-23T02:20:25  <nickr5> no I used tortoisehg
 174 2011-11-23T02:25:10  <ThomasWaldmann> hg export exports WITH metadata (like committer name, date time, comment)
 175 2011-11-23T02:25:30  <ThomasWaldmann> and it can get imported again, to reproduce all these metadata
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 193 2011-11-23T09:48:09  <qxcv> ThomasWaldmann: I claimed the high level view testing task for code-in, I can discuss it whenever you're ready
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 196 2011-11-23T11:00:22  <lanka> Moin
 197 2011-11-23T11:07:22  <lanka> Moin, I'm interested in participating Google Code in program...
 198 2011-11-23T11:07:37  <lanka> I looked at the tasks provided by MoinMoin.
 199 2011-11-23T11:07:48  <lanka> and, this looks interesting. http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7165202
 200 2011-11-23T11:08:40  <lanka> I've already read through the task, and has gone the demo wikis
 201 2011-11-23T11:09:03  <lanka> I like to have know the next steps on completing the task
 202 2011-11-23T11:09:20  <lanka> any help is highly appreciated.\
 203 2011-11-23T11:12:04  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, are you a mentor for this task? I see that your name is listed there!
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 207 2011-11-23T13:00:19  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
 208 2011-11-23T13:01:47  <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: hi
 209 2011-11-23T13:01:51  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: hi
 210 2011-11-23T13:01:54  <qxcv> hi
 211 2011-11-23T13:04:34  <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: lanka: try asking specific questions :)
 212 2011-11-23T13:06:55  <qxcv> ThomasWaldmann: do the tests I'm writing simply have to check that the views don't cause 500s and give the correct MIME type? no checking of the response body?
 213 2011-11-23T13:12:09  <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: the idea was to have a really simple test that triggers all apps/views. so you don't have to do very specialized content checks for correctness.
 214 2011-11-23T13:12:35  <ThomasWaldmann> but status, no exception and maybe a SIMPLE header and/or content check would be nice.
 215 2011-11-23T13:12:45  <qxcv> ok, awesome
 216 2011-11-23T13:15:56  <lanka> hi ThomasWaldmann
 217 2011-11-23T13:16:23  <lanka> my idea about the said project was that....
 218 2011-11-23T13:16:29  <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: and please use url_for()
 219 2011-11-23T13:16:52  <qxcv> ok
 220 2011-11-23T13:16:53  <lanka> I have to tranfer files between two ftp locations.
 221 2011-11-23T13:17:08  <ThomasWaldmann> no, not ftp, web ui
 222 2011-11-23T13:17:25  <lanka> i see
 223 2011-11-23T13:17:37  <ThomasWaldmann> you have to do that with a browser and copy&paste. the file formats are not compatible.
 224 2011-11-23T13:17:42  <lanka> so, just copy pasting of the moin wiki source  would work?
 225 2011-11-23T13:17:54  <lanka> ah, got it
 226 2011-11-23T13:18:02  <ThomasWaldmann> it is about metadata AND data
 227 2011-11-23T13:18:30  <lanka> ok, what metadata do i need to preserve?
 228 2011-11-23T13:18:59  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe just create/modify one example item on the new test wiki, so you see how it usually looks like
 229 2011-11-23T13:19:35  <ThomasWaldmann> you should preserve as much as possible, but at least the important stuff
 230 2011-11-23T13:19:35  <lanka> will do
 231 2011-11-23T13:19:50  <lanka> ok
 232 2011-11-23T13:19:59  <lanka> important stuff like?
 233 2011-11-23T13:20:28  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, and, to get an idea about the size of the work, can you tell me about how many wiki pages are there to copy?
 234 2011-11-23T13:20:52  <ThomasWaldmann> depends :) e.g. if some page demos "tags", there are likely a few pages which have tags in their metadata.
 235 2011-11-23T13:21:06  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: see index view
 236 2011-11-23T13:21:43  <ThomasWaldmann> you do not have to copy all, if you find random crap, you should not copy it. just the pages needed for the demonstrations linked from the front page.
 237 2011-11-23T13:22:07  <ThomasWaldmann> and you only need to transfer the latest revision
 238 2011-11-23T13:23:10  <lanka> according to index, about 47 to do i guess then.
 239 2011-11-23T13:23:18  <lanka> ok...
 240 2011-11-23T13:23:32  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, I'm now trying to understand the meta... http://test.moinmo.in/+meta/Home
 241 2011-11-23T13:23:48  <lanka> hope I can find a way to easily copy these metadata
 242 2011-11-23T13:26:45  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, found the meta editing section.
 243 2011-11-23T13:27:14  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, just to be clear, will direct copy&paste  from a meta page like this would work? http://test.moinmo.in/+meta/Home
 244 2011-11-23T13:28:56  <ThomasWaldmann> metadata is json, you can copy&paste it as a start. it might need more changes, but that's how you transfer it before maybe needing to change it.
 245 2011-11-23T13:29:29  <ThomasWaldmann> and the easiest way is maybe to have the editor open for both source and destination.
 246 2011-11-23T13:31:11  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, yes, I have both editors open. And, made the first edit.
 247 2011-11-23T13:31:29  <lanka> can you have a quick look? http://test.moinmo.in:8080/Home
 248 2011-11-23T13:33:48  <ThomasWaldmann> you don't need to put that comment, without is fine in that case
 249 2011-11-23T13:34:27  <lanka> got it
 250 2011-11-23T13:35:00  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, noticed a bug in the new wiki
 251 2011-11-23T13:35:20  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i am just seeing that this is namespaces branch code. yeah, there are likely lots of bugs.
 252 2011-11-23T13:35:45  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. address is 0.0.0.0
 253 2011-11-23T13:36:39  <lanka> I see
 254 2011-11-23T13:37:06  <lanka> I'm not much familiar with the terms though
 255 2011-11-23T13:39:06  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, noticed a bug
 256 2011-11-23T13:39:11  <lanka> This was edit was made without being logged in and it worked fine.
 257 2011-11-23T13:39:40  <qxcv> I'm attempting to use the pytest_generate_tests hook, but it's not getting called for any of the methods of the test classes in apps/frontend/_tests/test_frontend.py
 258 2011-11-23T13:39:47  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, Then I logged in. Now I can no longer access the wiki. it gives "Internal Server Error"
 259 2011-11-23T13:39:48  <qxcv> here's the relevant code: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/BlwzqN8hh5C6vhAnIKrQ/
 260 2011-11-23T13:39:53  <lanka> error 500
 261 2011-11-23T13:42:46  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: destroy the browser cookie you have for that url
 262 2011-11-23T13:43:36  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: i can switch it to the default branch code, maybe we should do that for now, as long namespace stuff is that unstable
 263 2011-11-23T13:43:55  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: but then you have to start again
 264 2011-11-23T13:45:17  <lanka> are you saying that you will change the OLD wiki to default branch code?
 265 2011-11-23T13:45:23  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: t think it shouldn't crash if you send a wrong cookie?
 266 2011-11-23T13:45:23  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, ^^
 267 2011-11-23T13:46:16  <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: no idea, ronny is our pytest2 specialist :)
 268 2011-11-23T13:47:15  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: no, the NEW one. i accidentally have "namespaces" branch active there (as it was the repo tip at that time)
 269 2011-11-23T13:47:59  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, then I don't understand what you meant by "but then you have to start again"!! :)
 270 2011-11-23T13:48:09  <ThomasWaldmann> you lose 1 page
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 272 2011-11-23T13:50:39  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, ok... loosing only 1 page is ok for me
 273 2011-11-23T13:51:56  <lanka> what's happening the link is no longer accessible http://test.moinmo.in:8080/Home
 274 2011-11-23T13:52:06  <lanka> what's happening? the link is no longer accessible http://test.moinmo.in:8080/Home
 275 2011-11-23T13:53:09  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: ok, try now. you see it when it does not put "namespace" into metadata.
 276 2011-11-23T13:53:23  <lanka> ok
 277 2011-11-23T13:53:30  <ThomasWaldmann> i just switched the code there
 278 2011-11-23T13:53:50  <lanka> Hm, I'm getting to understand what you meant before.... :)
 279 2011-11-23T13:54:53  <ThomasWaldmann> the general problem is that if we do major changes to how stuff is stored into the backend, we need conversion (either code or manually)
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 282 2011-11-23T13:56:20  <lanka> yeah....
 283 2011-11-23T13:56:40  <lanka> FWIW the login issue is still there, but now with another error.
 284 2011-11-23T13:57:12  <lanka> It says "KeyError: 'is_disabled'" with a traceback
 285 2011-11-23T13:57:13  <ThomasWaldmann> X)
 286 2011-11-23T13:57:36  <ThomasWaldmann> hah! that sounds like gci code. ;)
 287 2011-11-23T13:57:50  <ThomasWaldmann> just do it without login.
 288 2011-11-23T13:57:59  <lanka> he he...
 289 2011-11-23T13:58:33  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: can you file a bug (on bitbucket) about this?
 290 2011-11-23T13:58:48  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, with pleasure...
 291 2011-11-23T14:00:26  <izibi> huh? did my stuff break something?
 292 2011-11-23T14:00:53  <izibi> lanka: can you paste the traceback?
 293 2011-11-23T14:01:14  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: the hi i18n tasks are in needs review again. did sinha show any signs of life / did you email him?
 294 2011-11-23T14:02:44  <izibi> oh, my fault
 295 2011-11-23T14:02:58  <izibi> i'll fix it
 296 2011-11-23T14:02:59  <lanka> izibi, I can no longer reproduce it. have you fixed it?
 297 2011-11-23T14:03:32  <lanka> izibi, ok. now there's no traceback. But it doesn't log me in either.
 298 2011-11-23T14:04:13  <lanka> izibi, Now, in the login page, the title is "handlers need to give it"
 299 2011-11-23T14:04:58  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: fix: https://bitbucket.org/julianbrost/moin-2.0/changeset/d1c45405010b
 300 2011-11-23T14:05:11  <izibi> let's try submitting to melange again
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 302 2011-11-23T14:06:06  <izibi> let's try firefox :D
 303 2011-11-23T14:06:26  <lanka> im using firefox
 304 2011-11-23T14:07:22  <izibi> nope, doesn't work
 305 2011-11-23T14:09:25  <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1082:d1c45405010b 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: user_kwargs['is_disabled'] isn't set when email verification is disabled.
 306 2011-11-23T14:09:25  <CIA-56> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1083:4909b8d39579 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: merged
 307 2011-11-23T14:10:05  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: hi. can you please pull -u before starting to work? avoids some merge changesets.
 308 2011-11-23T14:10:19  <lanka> izibi, ThomasWaldmann guys, please be kind enough to inform me when you change the test wiki. Because I'm currently working on it. thanks
 309 2011-11-23T14:10:33  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: i applied it, runs on new code now.
 310 2011-11-23T14:10:43  <ThomasWaldmann> sorry for interrupting, you can just re-post.
 311 2011-11-23T14:10:53  <lanka> ok, thanks.
 312 2011-11-23T14:11:02  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, i'd do this usually, but i just quickly changed this now ;)
 313 2011-11-23T14:11:33  <izibi> i could try uploading a bundle :D
 314 2011-11-23T14:13:49  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: after a task is successfully closed, you don't need to update it on melange.
 315 2011-11-23T14:14:57  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: but it's not closed. submitting stuff doesn't work for me
 316 2011-11-23T14:17:18  <izibi> ah, uploading a file worked
 317 2011-11-23T14:17:19  <izibi> wtf?
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 319 2011-11-23T14:18:30  <jbillsgci11> I have requested this task
 320 2011-11-23T14:18:34  <jbillsgci11> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7159202
 321 2011-11-23T14:18:43  <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7122303 submitted
 322 2011-11-23T14:18:52  <izibi> why the hell doesn't melange display newlines?
 323 2011-11-23T14:20:00  <jbillsgci11> Its probably a bug
 324 2011-11-23T14:20:02  <ronny> re
 325 2011-11-23T14:20:27  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: did you "submit" that bundle as like "work done"?
 326 2011-11-23T14:22:28  <izibi> nope, why did they change this? :D
 327 2011-11-23T14:25:33  <ThomasWaldmann> no idea :) i just noticed i can't close it.
 328 2011-11-23T14:26:20  <izibi> i've submitted it for review now ;)
 329 2011-11-23T14:28:05  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, here's a creole wiki http://test.moinmo.in:8080/creole
 330 2011-11-23T14:29:10  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: just noticed: there are no docs for it yet, right? see docs/admin/configure.rst
 331 2011-11-23T14:30:06  *** sinha has joined #moin-dev
 332 2011-11-23T14:30:54  <izibi> who needs documentation? :D
 333 2011-11-23T14:31:20  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: hi, i was going through the translation done by aki
 334 2011-11-23T14:32:15  <sinha> what i found is, at some places he didn't use the generic translation what most people could understand, instead he used the one provided by google translate
 335 2011-11-23T14:32:17  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: ah, great. so, is it a good translation?
 336 2011-11-23T14:32:53  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, as suspected. do you think it can be fixed with good result?
 337 2011-11-23T14:32:56  <sinha> i have marked lots of lines which are supposed to be corrected
 338 2011-11-23T14:33:12  <sinha> yes some minor (some places major) changes are required
 339 2011-11-23T14:33:23  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, how to handle targz ? http://test.moinmo.in/targz
 340 2011-11-23T14:34:16  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: can you update all i18n tasks (in melange and in the wiki) to have the line "YOU MUST NOT USE MACHINE TRANSLATION."?
 341 2011-11-23T14:34:33  <sinha> so should i write my review in comment there ? mark the lines which needs some change (as he asked)
 342 2011-11-23T14:34:34  <sinha> ?
 343 2011-11-23T14:36:04  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: where to add it in this file?
 344 2011-11-23T14:36:15  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: did you mark them as fuzzy?
 345 2011-11-23T14:36:49  <sinha> i am seeing those po files in text editor, how to mark as fuzzy (just add some flag in there)
 346 2011-11-23T14:37:00  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: yes, please communicate with the student. in case of doubt via melange, or here, if he joins here.
 347 2011-11-23T14:37:19  <ThomasWaldmann> #, fuzzy
 348 2011-11-23T14:37:26  <sinha> okay i will be here all day, i can wait
 349 2011-11-23T14:37:44  <ThomasWaldmann> above the entry, just look at some file on master that has fuzzy entries
 350 2011-11-23T14:37:49  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, izibi I received this error when creating a tar (TGZ) with only meta http://paste.pocoo.org/show/p7YdpuXTXwxml3HmOLrc/
 351 2011-11-23T14:38:06  <lanka> shouldn't it be user-friendlier?
 352 2011-11-23T14:38:51  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: ok, i just clicked on "needs more work" for both parts
 353 2011-11-23T14:39:24  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: make sure you use his latest work for review
 354 2011-11-23T14:40:12  <sinha> yes i am using that only
 355 2011-11-23T14:41:47  <sinha> if he comes to chat or communicate via email or something, i could give him some suggestions (and at some places he simply used word-word translation, simply from google, which is not making any sense)
 356 2011-11-23T14:42:38  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: creole page looks ok (no regressions at least)
 357 2011-11-23T14:43:00  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, glad to hear that :))
 358 2011-11-23T14:43:01  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: what section would fit best? authentication? anti-spam? mail?
 359 2011-11-23T14:43:01  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: choose some nice place
 360 2011-11-23T14:43:19  <ThomasWaldmann> it is either user related stuff or near other email stuff
 361 2011-11-23T14:44:31  <izibi> i'll add is below sending email
 362 2011-11-23T14:44:49  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: that is a traceback. it is developer-friendly.
 363 2011-11-23T14:45:48  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: what does it mean "with only meta", did you forget the file upload?
 364 2011-11-23T14:46:40  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, i didn't upload the file, because i couldn't find one
 365 2011-11-23T14:47:20  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann,  what's the standard way to get the file? the links in that doesn't work.
 366 2011-11-23T14:48:09  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, Further, for PNG images, I've manually downloaded the PNG to my computer and uploaded. Is it the expected procedure?
 367 2011-11-23T14:50:06  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511870/ is this ok?
 368 2011-11-23T14:52:50  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, izibi: is there a way to change the markup type (ie moin -> rst) after a page is created?
 369 2011-11-23T14:53:09  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi:     AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'openid' - i guess we need a fix openid task
 370 2011-11-23T14:53:41  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: you need to download it from old wiki, then upload it on new wiki
 371 2011-11-23T14:54:04  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, that is expected
 372 2011-11-23T14:54:16  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: where does this happen?
 373 2011-11-23T14:54:33  <ThomasWaldmann> just tried to create, use and view settings of a new user
 374 2011-11-23T14:54:57  <ThomasWaldmann>   File "/home/tw/w/moin-2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py", line 1349, in usersettings
 375 2011-11-23T14:55:00  <ThomasWaldmann>     if form['openid'].value != flaskg.user.openid and user.search_users(openid=form['openid'].value):
 376 2011-11-23T14:55:03  <ThomasWaldmann> AttributeError: 'User' object has no attribute 'openid'
 377 2011-11-23T14:56:47  <izibi> wtf? please don't tell me that this happens because i omit the openid kwarg on create_user :D
 378 2011-11-23T14:57:10  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, thanks
 379 2011-11-23T14:57:36  <lanka> I think the links to tar files are broken.
 380 2011-11-23T14:59:55  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: you should create a task "suffer from openid bugs" :D
 381 2011-11-23T15:00:04  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: please file a bug and keep it onto your todo for later
 382 2011-11-23T15:00:23  <jbillsgci11> Does anyone have a test page that contains everything in moinmoin? (images,tables,etc)
 383 2011-11-23T15:00:48  <jbillsgci11> I need one to test the css
 384 2011-11-23T15:00:58  <ThomasWaldmann> http://test.moinmo.in/moin maybe not everything, but some stuff
 385 2011-11-23T15:01:04  <lanka> ok
 386 2011-11-23T15:02:29  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: is the documentation ok like this?
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 388 2011-11-23T15:03:45  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ... to be able to send e-mails ...
 389 2011-11-23T15:03:54  <ThomasWaldmann> 7
 390 2011-11-23T15:04:44  <ThomasWaldmann> At account creation time, ... (4)
 391 2011-11-23T15:05:39  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: e-mail in lower case? it's capitalized in the "Sending E-Mails" section
 392 2011-11-23T15:06:18  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, keep that as is
 393 2011-11-23T15:09:11  <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/511878/
 394 2011-11-23T15:09:51  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: 'An error occurred while sending the verification email: "%(message)" Please contact an administrator to activate your account.'
 395 2011-11-23T15:10:01  <ThomasWaldmann> ValueError: unsupported format character '"' (0x22) at index 67
 396 2011-11-23T15:10:33  <izibi> damn, why do i always forget the s? :D
 397 2011-11-23T15:10:54  <ThomasWaldmann> docs are ok
 398 2011-11-23T15:11:29  <izibi> 1 or 2 commits?
 399 2011-11-23T15:11:52  <ThomasWaldmann> 2
 400 2011-11-23T15:12:58  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, apparently this wiki page is orphaned http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MultipleParagraphs
 401 2011-11-23T15:13:09  <lanka> anyway to put it in to main page?
 402 2011-11-23T15:13:53  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: i've pushed it
 403 2011-11-23T15:14:01  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: kill it
 404 2011-11-23T15:14:20  <lanka> ok. this? http://test.moinmo.in/ObjectTagBug-OverlayPatch
 405 2011-11-23T15:16:17  <lanka> there's other orphans. But Google has probably indexed those!
 406 2011-11-23T15:16:36  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: An error occurred while sending the verification email: "{u'tw+tw3@waldmann-edv.de': (501, '5.5.2 <x300.?null?>: Helo command rejected: Invalid name')}" Please contact an administrator to activate your account.
 407 2011-11-23T15:16:52  <ThomasWaldmann> looks like our mail server is a bit picky
 408 2011-11-23T15:17:15  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: don't care for google, it is a test wiki
 409 2011-11-23T15:17:17  <lanka> here's another http://test.moinmo.in/ObjectTagBug-Tip   http://test.moinmo.in/Trans2Inc
 410 2011-11-23T15:17:24  <lanka> ok
 411 2011-11-23T15:18:04  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, then, I'm done with the work except the targz thing! :))
 412 2011-11-23T15:18:04  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: if it is about bugs, verify if it still happens. also check issue tracker if an issue links to test wiki.
 413 2011-11-23T15:19:51  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: it works with gmail
 414 2011-11-23T15:20:09  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: is there anything in the mailserver logs?
 415 2011-11-23T15:20:39  <ThomasWaldmann> it doesnt like the hostname of my laptop
 416 2011-11-23T15:22:33  <izibi> didn't you read the docs? it says that moin must be able to send mails ;)
 417 2011-11-23T15:26:12  <ThomasWaldmann> you forgot to document that it crashes otherwise :P
 418 2011-11-23T15:27:26  <izibi> it doesn't crash, it just tells you that it's not working :P
 419 2011-11-23T15:29:16  <lanka> I'm out for dinner. Now I only have this targz thing :)
 420 2011-11-23T15:32:10  <dreimark> moin
 421 2011-11-23T15:44:10  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: the to-address is wrong
 422 2011-11-23T15:44:53  <izibi> whatt?
 423 2011-11-23T15:44:55  <izibi> -t
 424 2011-11-23T15:45:02  <izibi> where?
 425 2011-11-23T15:46:32  <izibi> oops, somehow i commited the first version of the docs. damn
 426 2011-11-23T15:47:11  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: i mean in the code / verify emails
 427 2011-11-23T15:47:30  <izibi> ?
 428 2011-11-23T15:47:41  <ThomasWaldmann> for page change notification, we usually use same from == to address and notify everybody by bcc
 429 2011-11-23T15:48:15  <ThomasWaldmann> but for a personal thing like this verification, it should use the real email in the to: field and not bcc
 430 2011-11-23T15:48:56  <izibi> i'm just using the same code as for a password reset
 431 2011-11-23T15:49:47  <ThomasWaldmann> then it is wrong there also maybe :) can you try it / fix it?
 432 2011-11-23T15:51:17  * ThomasWaldmann bbl
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 434 2011-11-23T16:10:28  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: when reading that email subject, i think it should be changed from "[WikiName] Verify your email address" to "[WikiName] Please verify your e-mail address."
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 437 2011-11-23T16:12:24  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: did you file bugs for the stuff you stumbled upon? on bitbucket?
 438 2011-11-23T16:13:14  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, most of them got fixed on the way, but there's one bug to fill I think. I should do it too
 439 2011-11-23T16:13:46  <ThomasWaldmann> that should be standard procedure: fix it or file it
 440 2011-11-23T16:14:17  <ThomasWaldmann> filing some stuff is good for future gci tasks also :)
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 442 2011-11-23T16:46:02  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: eSyr: pkumar: waldi: did you ever get some notification email from melange when a student posted a question there?
 443 2011-11-23T16:47:21  <waldi> nope
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 445 2011-11-23T17:06:49  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:03) < ThomasWal> SRabbelier: is it already known that the profile setting "automatic task subscription" does not work?
 446 2011-11-23T17:06:52  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:03) < ThomasWal> i have it set, but AFAIK, i never got en email when a student claimrequested something or put a comment on some task where i  am mentor
 447 2011-11-23T17:06:55  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:03) <@SRabbelie> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, Madhu was almost finished it
 448 2011-11-23T17:06:58  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:04) <@SRabbelie> ThomasWaldmann: you can explicitly click the 'subscribe' button
 449 2011-11-23T17:07:01  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:04) < ThomasWal> ah, then it works? ok, trying that.
 450 2011-11-23T17:07:03  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:04) < ThomasWal> if madhu has finished it, will it notify for claimrequests also?
 451 2011-11-23T17:07:06  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:04) <@SRabbelie> ThomasWaldmann: I think that's the idea, yes, but I'm not sure
 452 2011-11-23T17:07:09  <ThomasWaldmann> (17:05) < ThomasWal> ok, let's see
 453 2011-11-23T17:07:48  <ThomasWaldmann> so let me suggest that whenever someone sees a claimrequest, he not only accepts it, but also clicks the subscribe button (until we know the profile setting works)
 454 2011-11-23T17:23:41  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: please mark everything as fuzzy you think that is not good hindi and communicate with the student on the melange tracker
 455 2011-11-23T17:23:59  <ThomasWaldmann> currently, it is rather unnoticable that you are working on it
 456 2011-11-23T17:24:16  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: okay, sure
 457 2011-11-23T17:24:40  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7122302 and see there
 458 2011-11-23T17:28:59  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: one more thing i wanted to ask, that how would i know which are the lines he edited, because some might have done earlier OR i should go through each of them
 459 2011-11-23T17:29:07  <sinha> (which i am doing now)
 460 2011-11-23T17:30:02  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i got after subscribing mails, like not a new bug maybe, but should be fixed.
 461 2011-11-23T17:30:07  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i got after subscribing mails, like not a new bug maybe, but should be fixed.
 462 2011-11-23T17:30:27  <dreimark> for http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7122303
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 464 2011-11-23T17:34:41  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: you can use diff, just grab files from master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/hi and from melange and diff them
 465 2011-11-23T17:35:01  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe, if order changed, you need some special gettext tool.
 466 2011-11-23T17:35:08  <ThomasWaldmann> or just look through them all
 467 2011-11-23T17:35:29  <sinha> okay, looking all will be easier and better
 468 2011-11-23T17:36:48  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: it can make sense, so everywhere the same words are used for the same things
 469 2011-11-23T17:37:30  <sinha> yes, because currently i am saying different translated words for the same english word
 470 2011-11-23T17:45:43  <izibi> re
 471 2011-11-23T17:47:02  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: so what do you want me to change now?
 472 2011-11-23T17:48:44  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I wonder if moin could catch that pickling error and clean the cache by itself...
 473 2011-11-23T17:57:44  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: I am not able to comment on melange? does that page need special privileges ?
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 475 2011-11-23T18:04:33  <iwontbecreative> eSyr: Hello, I am doing the french translation task and I wonder if you might help me with generating the .po file.
 476 2011-11-23T18:04:59  <iwontbecreative> I used the documentation, but it doesn't work (at least on trunk)
 477 2011-11-23T18:05:07  <pkumar> nope! no notifications
 478 2011-11-23T18:05:24  <pkumar> ThomasWaldmann :^
 479 2011-11-23T18:06:19  <iwontbecreative> eSyr: I get an error: "error: invalid command 'update_catalog'"
 480 2011-11-23T18:10:08  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, izibi: noticed another bug. I'll try to reproduce this and then file a bug http://paste.pocoo.org/show/8g1opTF2WDi6qh1PMrnX/
 481 2011-11-23T18:11:16  <lanka> ahh, it seems that this is quite the same as previous one. sorry for the noise
 482 2011-11-23T18:12:17  <lanka> ThomasWaldmann, izibi: where should I file bugs. here? https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issues?status=new&status=open
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 485 2011-11-23T18:42:43  <iwontbecreative> eSyr: I'm off for now (I might be back later on), but I would like some help with this issue because I can't start the task until I know how to generate the .po file and I have only 3 days.
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 488 2011-11-23T18:44:10  <pkumar> sinha : hey , had got dcd.
 489 2011-11-23T18:44:58  <pkumar> so, difference? I don't see any.
 490 2011-11-23T18:45:11  <sinha> then why they are at two places ?
 491 2011-11-23T18:45:18  <sinha> i mean comments at both places are same
 492 2011-11-23T18:45:19  <sinha> ?
 493 2011-11-23T18:46:35  <pkumar> well, first one needed modifications as some of the translations make no sense in hindi. so a new file with better translations hopefully
 494 2011-11-23T18:46:44  <pkumar> is uploaded there
 495 2011-11-23T18:47:05  <pkumar> sinha : how do ou find translations are
 496 2011-11-23T18:47:10  <pkumar> ?
 497 2011-11-23T18:47:35  <pkumar> say for "Your changes are not saved"?
 498 2011-11-23T18:48:07  <sinha> at some places saved is written as "save" in hindi and some places as "surakshit"
 499 2011-11-23T18:48:29  <sinha> and also the translation for word draft is done as "masooda"
 500 2011-11-23T18:48:34  <sinha> i have never heard of that word
 501 2011-11-23T18:49:06  <sinha> so instead of translating word by word, we should keep the meaning which is understandable by mass and makes sense
 502 2011-11-23T18:49:14  <pkumar> sinha : well, apart from word, the translation of the above word here I can see is:
 503 2011-11-23T18:49:27  <pkumar> s/word/sentence
 504 2011-11-23T18:49:57  <pkumar> "apne pariwartano ko saheja nahi kar rahe hain!
 505 2011-11-23T18:49:59  <pkumar> "
 506 2011-11-23T18:50:09  <pkumar> is that right?
 507 2011-11-23T18:50:17  <sinha> yeah instead of this, it should be "aapka parivartan saheja naih gaya"
 508 2011-11-23T18:50:24  <sinha> so its not right there
 509 2011-11-23T18:50:29  <sinha> *nahi
 510 2011-11-23T18:50:42  <sinha> there are lot of other lines, let me pick em
 511 2011-11-23T18:51:09  <pkumar> or " aapke parivartan saheje nai gaye hain!"
 512 2011-11-23T18:51:28  <pkumar> kinda more respectful! ;)
 513 2011-11-23T18:52:06  <pkumar> though either of the sentences make sense but not the one in the file
 514 2011-11-23T18:52:08  <sinha> yes
 515 2011-11-23T18:52:17  <sinha> and at some place there is usage of "tum"
 516 2011-11-23T18:52:27  <sinha> which is also kinda disrespectful
 517 2011-11-23T18:52:42  <pkumar> yeah, not so descent
 518 2011-11-23T18:53:11  <pkumar> read for this "The lock you held timed out. Be prepared for editing conflicts!"
 519 2011-11-23T18:54:05  <sinha> pkumar: i need to go somewhere, will back in 20 min (if you can, we will carry out discussion then)
 520 2011-11-23T18:54:05  <pkumar> For hindi users those sentences are surely not very comfortable
 521 2011-11-23T18:54:16  <pkumar> sure!
 522 2011-11-23T18:54:25  <sinha> okay, will ping you when i am back !
 523 2011-11-23T18:54:42  <pkumar> ok
 524 2011-11-23T19:28:57  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: using the right to: address?
 525 2011-11-23T19:29:20  <izibi> that's not a bug in my code :P
 526 2011-11-23T19:29:42  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: maybe. it is a rather strange error though, not sure if it ONLY happens in that case. also, cleaning cache while moin is running is maybe also not that great.
 527 2011-11-23T19:30:04  <izibi> would it be ok to check the type of the to parameter in the sendmail function?
 528 2011-11-23T19:30:06  <ThomasWaldmann> sinha: maybe one needs to be student or mentor, not sure
 529 2011-11-23T19:30:17  <izibi> and send it as it is now if its a list
 530 2011-11-23T19:30:43  <izibi> and if it's a string, use the correct To: header?
 531 2011-11-23T19:31:00  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: that "no tell" is a api problem. file a bug with the traceback.
 532 2011-11-23T19:31:29  <ThomasWaldmann> lanka: yes, on my moin-2.0 bb issue tracker
 533 2011-11-23T19:32:07  <ThomasWaldmann> if the french guy returns: we have docs about translation process and they should work.
 534 2011-11-23T19:34:32  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: no, but for personal mails it is kind of expected, so you implement something you need for your code that also fixes the same issue for existing other code.
 535 2011-11-23T19:35:21  <izibi> and how should i do this without duplicating all that sendmail code?
 536 2011-11-23T19:35:28  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: i would rather prefer a more explicit way than magic
 537 2011-11-23T19:35:55  <ThomasWaldmann> like a use_bcc flag or something
 538 2011-11-23T19:36:57  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe the current "to" param should be renamed to bcc
 539 2011-11-23T19:37:32  <ThomasWaldmann> and a new "to" param added (that is also a list?)
 540 2011-11-23T19:38:09  <ThomasWaldmann> your code would use that new "to" param, pw recovery would also use the new "to", page change notification would use "bcc"
 541 2011-11-23T19:39:01  <ThomasWaldmann> we could make a new task for this, considering the amount of change
 542 2011-11-23T19:39:07  <ThomasWaldmann> easy :)
 543 2011-11-23T19:39:27  <ThomasWaldmann> find bug / fix bug
 544 2011-11-23T19:40:08  <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ^^
 545 2011-11-23T19:40:14  <izibi> sendmail(subject, text, to=None, cc=None, bcc=None, mail_from=None)?
 546 2011-11-23T19:40:42  <izibi> if i'm changing this anyway, i can also add cc. maybe someone will need it some time ;)
 547 2011-11-23T19:41:23  <izibi> can you send an email with an empty To: header?
 548 2011-11-23T19:41:45  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe from, to, cc, bcc, subject, text would be a somehow natural order
 549 2011-11-23T19:42:00  <izibi> gmail doesn't complain ;)
 550 2011-11-23T19:42:03  <ThomasWaldmann> there are not that many callers iirc
 551 2011-11-23T19:42:28  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: but then you would have to use kwargs for everything
 552 2011-11-23T19:42:39  <izibi> otherwise you could just pass subject and text
 553 2011-11-23T19:43:28  <ThomasWaldmann> some stuff could default to None and if it is None, use the configured value
 554 2011-11-23T19:44:05  <ThomasWaldmann> (or not activate some header if there is no data for it)
 555 2011-11-23T19:44:47  <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512019/
 556 2011-11-23T19:44:50  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i need to move soon, if there are any question: now, or later :)
 557 2011-11-23T19:45:01  <izibi> then i'd have to do more input validation
 558 2011-11-23T19:45:22  <izibi> because i'd need to give them a default value and need to check whether they were passed
 559 2011-11-23T19:45:50  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
 560 2011-11-23T19:46:18  <izibi> that would suck :P
 561 2011-11-23T19:46:47  <ThomasWaldmann> if foo is not None: ...
 562 2011-11-23T19:47:29  <ThomasWaldmann> or: foo = foo or cfg.default_foo
 563 2011-11-23T19:47:51  <izibi> what's wrong with using subject and text as first to arguments?
 564 2011-11-23T19:48:10  <ThomasWaldmann> it's not wrong, just a bit backwards :)
 565 2011-11-23T19:48:13  <izibi> sendmail("Foo", "Bar", to=["mail"])
 566 2011-11-23T19:48:44  <ThomasWaldmann> also, is a subject mandatory? or text?
 567 2011-11-23T19:48:45  <izibi> but what do you want to set as default for subject and text? :D
 568 2011-11-23T19:49:44  <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: i don't want empty mails in my inbox :D
 569 2011-11-23T19:50:04  <ThomasWaldmann> it's a great way to detect spam :P
 570 2011-11-23T19:50:54  <izibi> sendmail(**kwargs) :D
 571 2011-11-23T19:51:06  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we should have sendmail as a generic way to generate and send mail, allowing everything that is valid
 572 2011-11-23T19:51:37  <ThomasWaldmann> and the caller must make sure to use whatever feature one would expect
 573 2011-11-23T19:55:17  <izibi> srsly? if someone needs to do something weird, he can directly talk to the smtp server
 574 2011-11-23T19:55:40  <izibi> you usually send some notification mails *withÜ* subject and text from a wiki...
 575 2011-11-23T20:00:07  <ThomasWaldmann> it is just about order
 576 2011-11-23T20:00:27  <ThomasWaldmann> the order i mentioned does not have to be looked up, any email program shows stuff in that order
 577 2011-11-23T20:00:53  <ThomasWaldmann> with another order (e.g. as now) it is better with mandatory arguments, but you have to look up the order
 578 2011-11-23T20:01:48  <izibi> it's always a bad idea to write code without knowing which argument does what
 579 2011-11-23T20:02:34  <izibi> and you would have to use kwargs in that case anyway
 580 2011-11-23T20:02:48  <ThomasWaldmann> if we have the usual names for them, one can also easily remember the name and use any order
 581 2011-11-23T20:02:55  <izibi> or you'd have to explicitly pass [] or None as first arg for example
 582 2011-11-23T20:04:20  <ThomasWaldmann> anyway, need to go now, bbl
 583 2011-11-23T20:37:32  <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512044/
 584 2011-11-23T20:39:10  <izibi> huh? why doesn't it show the whole diff?
 585 2011-11-23T20:39:18  <izibi> there is more when you click on raw. strange
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 589 2011-11-23T21:34:13  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: Since i am not able to comment there, i have written some suggestions here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512069/, Please post it there, thank you !
 590 2011-11-23T21:43:40  <grzywacz> moin
 591 2011-11-23T21:46:47  <sinha> ThomasWaldmann: It is review of this one http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7134387
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 600 2011-11-23T22:56:25  <ploftness> hi
 601 2011-11-23T22:56:35  <ploftness> Are any of the Google code-in mentors currently around?
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 606 2011-11-23T23:43:34  <eSyr> they're too fast for me -_-
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 611 2011-11-23T23:57:06  <TheSheep> jbillsgci11: I have a couple of comments about your patch for headings css
 612 2011-11-23T23:58:58  <TheSheep> jbillsgci11: first of all, why are all the distances you used in pixels, even though all other distances used in this css file already are in em?
 613 2011-11-23T23:59:30  <TheSheep> jbillsgci11: second, you repeated those :hover rules, but instead you could just have a single rule

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