1 2011-12-01T00:00:53 <izibi> but as far as the frontend.route decorator doesn't do anything weird, this should work
2 2011-12-01T00:02:20 <izibi> it would add another flash so a new function would be the best solution
3 2011-12-01T00:02:32 <izibi> where (in which module) should i add itß?
4 2011-12-01T00:05:02 <ThomasWaldmann> either just _logout() there or user.logout() (user as in user module)
5 2011-12-01T00:12:01 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: updated issue
6 2011-12-01T00:15:12 <izibi> tested everything (not changing mail and clicking save, changing mail with email verification enabled and disabled and with an error while sending the mail)
7 2011-12-01T00:17:05 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like coverage :)
8 2011-12-01T00:17:34 *** sungji
9 2011-12-01T00:17:37 <izibi> commit and push?
10 2011-12-01T00:17:48 *** sungji
11 2011-12-01T00:17:54 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, commit / push / submit
12 2011-12-01T00:18:58 <izibi> btw it looks like the test suite creates some files that are not covered by .hgignore
13 2011-12-01T00:19:46 <izibi> should i add a reference to the bug report in the commit message?
14 2011-12-01T00:22:44 <ThomasWaldmann> Fixes #NNN.
15 2011-12-01T00:23:20 <izibi> as a prefix or suffix? ;)
16 2011-12-01T00:24:13 <izibi> well i guess you don't call it like this for whole sentences. at the beginning or end? :D
17 2011-12-01T00:25:24 <ThomasWaldmann> end
18 2011-12-01T00:27:15 <izibi> submitted to melange. 16 minutes before deadline. perfect ;)
19 2011-12-01T00:29:02 <ThomasWaldmann> did you run all tests?
20 2011-12-01T00:31:27 <izibi> nope, just tested if it works, let's see
21 2011-12-01T00:31:54 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 1111:ec33b8e97292 2.0/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Verify new email address if the user changes it. Fixes #117.
22 2011-12-01T00:33:42 <izibi> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/515123/ some are failing. let's see if anything is related to my changes
23 2011-12-01T00:34:46 <izibi> what's wrong if there's no E: ... line?
24 2011-12-01T00:35:09 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/117/verify-email-address-if-the-user-updates close it. link to changeset.
25 2011-12-01T00:36:09 <ThomasWaldmann> these test fails are expected currently
26 2011-12-01T00:37:39 <izibi> the same tests fail in the parent revision
27 2011-12-01T00:37:49 <ThomasWaldmann> yup
28 2011-12-01T00:39:45 <izibi> done
29 2011-12-01T00:40:09 * ThomasWaldmann tries to upgrade werkzeug in 1.9 meanwhile
30 2011-12-01T00:40:41 * izibi cleans up his email inbox :D
31 2011-12-01T00:51:22 <izibi> stupid question but how do i add myself as an admin? :D
32 2011-12-01T01:00:08 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: superuser or admin?
33 2011-12-01T01:00:51 <ThomasWaldmann> if you mean admin rights in acls, just use acl_rights_before = u"YourName:admin,...." in your wikiconfig
34 2011-12-01T01:01:17 <izibi> whatever has more privileges :D
35 2011-12-01T01:01:28 <ThomasWaldmann> (ehrm, that was for 1.9 btw, but for moin2 it is different)
36 2011-12-01T01:01:42 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you need to do?
37 2011-12-01T01:02:05 <izibi> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/13/look-of-tables i want to see the ugly tables at /+admin/...
38 2011-12-01T01:02:34 <ThomasWaldmann> ah
39 2011-12-01T01:03:30 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: tried the docs?
40 2011-12-01T01:04:19 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, but didn't want to go that deep into acls. there should definitely be a section on how to just set up a standard admin account
41 2011-12-01T01:05:01 <ThomasWaldmann> try "ACL for functions"
42 2011-12-01T01:07:15 <izibi> grepping for "admin" won't find that :D
43 2011-12-01T01:08:24 <ThomasWaldmann> it will
44 2011-12-01T01:08:37 <ThomasWaldmann> well, superuser rather
45 2011-12-01T01:08:42 <ThomasWaldmann> admin is something else
46 2011-12-01T01:09:15 <izibi> do i want to do this task?
47 2011-12-01T01:09:57 <ThomasWaldmann> do you have good design taste?
48 2011-12-01T01:10:35 <ThomasWaldmann> and css skills?
49 2011-12-01T01:12:44 <izibi> do you have good design taste? <-- at least i think so :D
50 2011-12-01T01:12:48 <izibi> and css: yes
51 2011-12-01T01:13:20 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then do it :)
52 2011-12-01T01:15:21 <izibi> http://test.moinmo.in/+history what exactly does this table tell me? :D
53 2011-12-01T01:16:11 <izibi> what does it mean if there are multiple numbers in square brackets? multiple changes just one after another?
54 2011-12-01T01:17:00 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
55 2011-12-01T01:17:17 <ThomasWaldmann> that might get changed btw
56 2011-12-01T01:17:36 <ThomasWaldmann> so mostly focus on the table itself, less on the contents
57 2011-12-01T01:18:23 *** qxcv
58 2011-12-01T01:18:41 <ThomasWaldmann> the one on history isn't the worst looking one btw
59 2011-12-01T01:19:14 <izibi> what to use as a starting point? http://test.moinmo.in/+history/Home? or just start from scratch?
60 2011-12-01T01:19:37 <izibi> at least i think that's the one that looks best
61 2011-12-01T01:22:27 <ThomasWaldmann> your decision
62 2011-12-01T01:22:44 <ThomasWaldmann> the style should just match the rest of the theme somehow
63 2011-12-01T01:24:19 <izibi> but i like all that glossy stuff (no, actually not) :D
64 2011-12-01T01:24:29 *** sungji
65 2011-12-01T01:25:16 <izibi> i'll look at the css tomorrow and then we'll see how to continue. but now it's time for bed. gn
66 2011-12-01T01:29:31 <ThomasWaldmann> gn izibi
67 2011-12-01T03:24:00 *** MattMaker
68 2011-12-01T07:42:47 *** sungji
69 2011-12-01T08:08:05 *** sungji
70 2011-12-01T09:08:45 <izibi> using codereview on a phone totally sucks...
71 2011-12-01T09:53:16 *** NikitaUtiu
72 2011-12-01T09:53:48 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: maybe you need a bigger phone :)
73 2011-12-01T10:08:07 *** greg_f
74 2011-12-01T11:44:31 <qxcv> I'm interested in claiming a "find a bug, fix a bug" task for GCI, are there any mentors here atm who can help out with deciding difficulty levels?
75 2011-12-01T11:47:21 <qxcv> I'm wanting to do issue #84: +diffraw raises exception (https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/84/diffraw-raises-exception) btw
76 2011-12-01T12:04:27 <ThomasWaldmann> hi qxcv
77 2011-12-01T12:05:14 <qxcv> hi
78 2011-12-01T12:05:48 <qxcv> I'm looking at what needs to be done for #84 - it seems pretty simple
79 2011-12-01T12:06:08 <ThomasWaldmann> 84 - could you reproduce? it might be fixed already.
80 2011-12-01T12:06:24 <qxcv> yes, I can reproduce it when I try it with an existing item
81 2011-12-01T12:06:40 <ThomasWaldmann> can you show the traceback?
82 2011-12-01T12:06:54 <qxcv> yes, I'll pastebin it
83 2011-12-01T12:08:27 <qxcv> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/hJZrLZIY1EJ8gMvSArXp/
84 2011-12-01T12:09:11 <qxcv> preventing the error is simple - just replace line 1517 in apps/frontend/views.py with commonmt = _common_type(oldrev.meta[CONTENTTYPE], newrev.meta[CONTENTTYPE])
85 2011-12-01T12:09:49 <qxcv> but when I do that I don't think I'm getting the correct output from diffraw, I'm not sure what diffraw should actually show the user
86 2011-12-01T12:10:09 <qxcv> it just says something along the lines of "files are different" without an actual diff
87 2011-12-01T12:12:45 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i guess you can close 84, that was already fixed.
88 2011-12-01T12:12:59 <ThomasWaldmann> what you found is also diffraw, but something else.
89 2011-12-01T12:13:56 <ThomasWaldmann> "files are different" is expected if a binary item is involved (or more general: an item without special diff implementation)
90 2011-12-01T12:14:09 <ThomasWaldmann> if you compare text items, you should get a text diff
91 2011-12-01T12:14:15 <qxcv> ah, ok
92 2011-12-01T12:14:23 <qxcv> plain text or html?
93 2011-12-01T12:14:36 <ThomasWaldmann> try plain text or wiki markup
94 2011-12-01T12:15:09 <ThomasWaldmann> (12:07) < qxcv> preventing the error is simple - just replace line 1517 in apps/frontend/views.py with commonmt = _common_type(oldrev.meta[CONTENTTYPE], newrev.meta[CONTENTTYPE])
95 2011-12-01T12:15:39 <ThomasWaldmann> that still counts as easy. maybe also check other callers for same mistake, this is due to an api change.
96 2011-12-01T12:16:09 <qxcv> would you like me to put that fix and a fix for the text diff into my bitbucket repo? they're probably not really task-worthy
97 2011-12-01T12:16:38 <ThomasWaldmann> well, easy tasks are easy. :)
98 2011-12-01T12:16:52 <qxcv> the text diff issue is another one-liner, just put _render_data_diff_raw = _render_data_diff
99 2011-12-01T12:17:24 <qxcv> ok, I'll claim a task then
100 2011-12-01T12:17:58 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure what you mean with text diff issue
101 2011-12-01T12:19:33 <qxcv> diffraw for text items just calls the Binary diffraw instead of the Text diffraw
102 2011-12-01T12:19:48 <qxcv> so you don't get a full diff, just the simple "Files are different" binary diff
103 2011-12-01T12:20:06 <qxcv> it's just because of an inheritance thing
104 2011-12-01T12:20:21 <qxcv> _render_data_diff_raw = _render_data_diff fixes it
105 2011-12-01T12:22:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
106 2011-12-01T12:23:53 <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: you need to shortly tell WHAT you want to fix on melange
107 2011-12-01T12:26:27 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i closed 84 :)
108 2011-12-01T12:26:40 <qxcv> ah sweet
109 2011-12-01T12:26:54 <ThomasWaldmann> as it was referring to another issue.
110 2011-12-01T12:27:02 <ThomasWaldmann> but just do what you told above. :)
111 2011-12-01T12:27:58 <qxcv> there we go, marked as complete
112 2011-12-01T12:30:56 <CIA-56> Sam Toyer <samATqxcvDOTnet> default * 1112:b02f88f4428e 2.0/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py items/__init__.py): Fix diffraw view, fix text diffraw
113 2011-12-01T12:31:30 <qxcv> ThomasWaldmann: ty
114 2011-12-01T12:46:29 <ThomasWaldmann> qxcv: btw, did you look at other callers of common_mt?
115 2011-12-01T12:46:40 <qxcv> yes
116 2011-12-01T12:46:52 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks
117 2011-12-01T12:46:55 <qxcv> there was only one, and it was fine
118 2011-12-01T12:47:41 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you look through bugs and you can't reproduce an issue, leave a comment about that in the issue tracker
119 2011-12-01T12:47:52 <qxcv> ok
120 2011-12-01T13:59:51 *** raignarok
121 2011-12-01T14:40:03 *** qxcv
122 2011-12-01T15:42:49 *** raignarok
123 2011-12-01T15:46:00 *** raignarok
124 2011-12-01T16:46:40 *** MattMaker
125 2011-12-01T16:52:25 *** jek
126 2011-12-01T16:55:02 *** jek
127 2011-12-01T17:33:32 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, moin, i'm back, how's the code i sent you?
128 2011-12-01T18:25:12 *** sungji
129 2011-12-01T18:44:36 *** pkumar
130 2011-12-01T18:49:48 *** brunomartin
131 2011-12-01T18:55:36 *** greg_f
132 2011-12-01T18:59:57 *** pkumar
133 2011-12-01T19:06:06 *** dave_largo
134 2011-12-01T19:07:39 <Donald95> ThomasWaldmann:Hey
135 2011-12-01T19:08:38 <Donald95> ThomasWaldmann:Here is the link to us buttons http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/google2copy.jpg/ distracting background fixed ...
136 2011-12-01T19:10:25 <ThomasWaldmann> re
137 2011-12-01T19:10:48 <Donald95> re?
138 2011-12-01T19:10:54 <TheSheep> Donald95: the right side looks like it's cut off
139 2011-12-01T19:11:07 <TheSheep> Donald95: re is short for 'return'
140 2011-12-01T19:11:19 <TheSheep> Donald95: meaning ThomasWaldmann just got back to the computer
141 2011-12-01T19:11:20 <Donald95> aah
142 2011-12-01T19:11:40 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: url?
143 2011-12-01T19:12:23 <Donald95> TheSheep: well should I make it with rounded corners on the right side?
144 2011-12-01T19:13:11 <ThomasWaldmann> seems like logo design is harder than expected
145 2011-12-01T19:13:13 <NikitaUtiu> http://codereview.appspot.com/5448061/ ThomasWaldmann
146 2011-12-01T19:13:35 <TheSheep> design is always hard
147 2011-12-01T19:13:56 <Donald95> TheSheep: with small sizes if I round the both sides there would be almost no size for logo and text ...
148 2011-12-01T19:13:57 <TheSheep> Donald95: I'm not sure, but that could help
149 2011-12-01T19:14:22 <TheSheep> Donald95: maybe you could just make some kind of effect on the edge to mark that it's ending there naturally
150 2011-12-01T19:14:53 <Donald95> TheSheep:ah ok I could try that
151 2011-12-01T19:15:05 <TheSheep> Donald95: but you see what I mean?
152 2011-12-01T19:15:26 <Donald95> TheSheep: I think so
153 2011-12-01T19:15:49 <TheSheep> also the font in the large banner is atrocious, sorry
154 2011-12-01T19:16:53 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: code there looks ok. did you test the latest code?
155 2011-12-01T19:17:08 <NikitaUtiu> ?
156 2011-12-01T19:17:17 <ThomasWaldmann> your latest code
157 2011-12-01T19:17:28 <NikitaUtiu> yes, it works as intended
158 2011-12-01T19:17:39 <Donald95> TheSheep:Is the font on the small and medium button ok?
159 2011-12-01T19:17:48 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: ok, commit/push/submit
160 2011-12-01T19:18:18 <TheSheep> Donald95: those only show single words, so you can't see the bad kerning
161 2011-12-01T19:18:34 <ThomasWaldmann> i saw the bad kerning :)
162 2011-12-01T19:19:05 <TheSheep> but it doesn't jump out on you immediately like on the large one
163 2011-12-01T19:19:19 <TheSheep> is the small button using Comic Sans MS? :)
164 2011-12-01T19:19:29 <ThomasWaldmann> wasn't there a kerning joke somewhere recently?
165 2011-12-01T19:19:38 <TheSheep> keming ;)
166 2011-12-01T19:20:33 <Donald95> the font is Brave New Era
167 2011-12-01T19:20:36 <Donald95> on all the buttons
168 2011-12-01T19:20:59 *** brunomartin
169 2011-12-01T19:21:52 <TheSheep> it looks completely different on the small ones
170 2011-12-01T19:22:36 <Donald95> aaah it's my fault .. :D
171 2011-12-01T19:22:38 *** moin8
172 2011-12-01T19:22:41 <Donald95> it really is comic sans MS
173 2011-12-01T19:22:46 * TheSheep grins
174 2011-12-01T19:22:52 <Donald95> was looking the wrong buttons ...
175 2011-12-01T19:39:18 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann, should i send a pull request or something?
176 2011-12-01T19:47:06 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: no, submitting in melange is enough
177 2011-12-01T19:47:12 <NikitaUtiu> ok
178 2011-12-01T19:48:34 * ThomasWaldmann drives home now
179 2011-12-01T19:48:47 <NikitaUtiu> acidentally marked as complete
180 2011-12-01T19:50:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hm?
181 2011-12-01T19:56:22 <NikitaUtiu> i marked the task on melage as complete
182 2011-12-01T20:16:38 *** RogerHaase
183 2011-12-01T20:42:18 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: btw, do you think that "session_id" is the right term for that attribute?
184 2011-12-01T20:43:05 <TheSheep> that's a loaded question
185 2011-12-01T20:43:09 <NikitaUtiu> well it's and id shared by sessions, i don't know. didn't have any idea at the moment
186 2011-12-01T20:43:13 <ThomasWaldmann> and it is still not random (sorry, didn't see that in CR)
187 2011-12-01T20:43:47 <ThomasWaldmann> well, a sesssion id identifies a session. what you have there is just a counter.
188 2011-12-01T20:44:10 <ThomasWaldmann> and it is neither different for different sessions, nor changes when you log out and in again.
189 2011-12-01T20:44:28 <NikitaUtiu> it changes whenever the sessions are invalidated
190 2011-12-01T20:44:42 <NikitaUtiu> isn't that the only moment it needs to change?
191 2011-12-01T20:44:57 <ThomasWaldmann> so, to not confuse readers of that code, i would name it user_secret and use a random value
192 2011-12-01T20:45:13 <ThomasWaldmann> or just secret
193 2011-12-01T20:45:36 <ThomasWaldmann> it changes whenever you change the password
194 2011-12-01T20:47:01 <NikitaUtiu> aha, but why random? sorry but i don't exactly get it
195 2011-12-01T20:47:12 *** raignarok
196 2011-12-01T20:47:21 <ThomasWaldmann> what you do is very predictable
197 2011-12-01T20:47:56 <ThomasWaldmann> as long as the securecookie crypto / server secret is not broken, that might be enough
198 2011-12-01T20:48:12 <ThomasWaldmann> but otoh, we have no problem to make it less predictable
199 2011-12-01T20:48:15 <NikitaUtiu> aha, i get it
200 2011-12-01T20:48:38 <NikitaUtiu> i;m going to change it to random
201 2011-12-01T20:48:50 <ThomasWaldmann> just look into MoinMoin.util.crypto
202 2011-12-01T20:49:47 <ThomasWaldmann> # log the user out if the session expired < that is also "not quite" correct.
203 2011-12-01T20:49:59 <ThomasWaldmann> it did not expire, it was invalidated
204 2011-12-01T20:50:59 <NikitaUtiu> ok, also, how long should the user_secret be?
205 2011-12-01T20:52:20 <NikitaUtiu> or should i add a config value for it?
206 2011-12-01T20:52:29 <ThomasWaldmann> well, as long as you store it into the session: not too long. 12 chars.
207 2011-12-01T20:52:38 <NikitaUtiu> ok
208 2011-12-01T20:53:15 <ThomasWaldmann> but, that was my next idea: couldn't we just use it for securecookie encryption, so we can make it longer and save that space in the cookie?
209 2011-12-01T20:58:25 <Donald95> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/google2copy.jpg/
210 2011-12-01T20:58:51 <Donald95> right side changed so it doesn't look cut
211 2011-12-01T20:59:00 <Donald95> and font on banner changed
212 2011-12-01T20:59:43 <TheSheep> Donald95: better, but the round logo is now clipped at the top and bottom
213 2011-12-01T21:00:18 <TheSheep> Donald95: somehow italics don't look very good
214 2011-12-01T21:00:55 <TheSheep> Donald95: perhaps you could use less automated canned effects
215 2011-12-01T21:01:03 <TheSheep> s/less/fewer/
216 2011-12-01T21:01:55 <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: ignore my comment on securecookie, there is a chicken and egg problem :D
217 2011-12-01T21:02:08 <NikitaUtiu> ok :D
218 2011-12-01T21:02:13 <Donald95> can you tell me where I'm right now with this task
219 2011-12-01T21:02:26 <Donald95> cuz it looks like that buttons wont work :/
220 2011-12-01T21:02:47 <Donald95> maybe I should unclaim task if this is far from your expectations ...
221 2011-12-01T21:03:45 <TheSheep> Donald95: please bear with me a little
222 2011-12-01T21:05:52 <Donald95> yes?
223 2011-12-01T21:06:44 <NikitaUtiu> did it, this is the issue http://codereview.appspot.com/5440076 ThomasWaldmann
224 2011-12-01T21:06:56 <NikitaUtiu> i have to go, be back tomorrow
225 2011-12-01T21:06:58 <NikitaUtiu> bye
226 2011-12-01T21:07:03 *** NikitaUtiu
227 2011-12-01T21:07:37 <Donald95> My question actually was if I'm done with the task on like 80% or is it far from done
228 2011-12-01T21:07:52 <Donald95> cuz I got 1 day left on the task
229 2011-12-01T21:09:21 <ThomasWaldmann> oops, too late
230 2011-12-01T21:14:17 <TheSheep> Donald95: It's almost good
231 2011-12-01T21:14:34 <TheSheep> Donald95: I marked the faults that I see: http://www.sheep.art.pl/misc/google2copy.jpg
232 2011-12-01T21:15:22 <izibi> wiping your phone multiple times a week sucks... :-/ doing something usefull would be better
233 2011-12-01T21:17:05 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: beta firmware? :)
234 2011-12-01T21:17:21 <TheSheep> freerunner? :P
235 2011-12-01T21:17:35 <izibi> ICS :)
236 2011-12-01T21:18:22 <TheSheep> wait a couple of months
237 2011-12-01T21:18:30 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7134386 that doesn't sound like it could qualify, right?
238 2011-12-01T21:18:43 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: nexus prime?
239 2011-12-01T21:19:14 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: that would be nice but no. sgs
240 2011-12-01T21:19:49 <izibi> but it works pretty well for an early alpha
241 2011-12-01T21:21:30 <ThomasWaldmann> i think i'll wait until the official update. need a working phone. :)
242 2011-12-01T21:22:59 <izibi> well it only reboots randomly once or twice a day xD
243 2011-12-01T21:23:29 <izibi> early versions of gingerbread were worse :D
244 2011-12-01T21:23:45 <TheSheep> they randomly deleted all your contacts from your google account?
245 2011-12-01T21:24:34 * TheSheep is waiting for an ICS version that works on his Adam
246 2011-12-01T21:25:33 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: only if we find finnish mentor :)
247 2011-12-01T21:26:22 <eSyr> (have to write to Ville)
248 2011-12-01T21:26:24 <TheSheep> I know some finnish people who could maybe spare some time
249 2011-12-01T21:27:14 <eSyr> TheSheep: can you caontact them and ask if they can help?
250 2011-12-01T21:27:57 <izibi> TheSheep: nope, but it rebooted about every time you used the device. and of course camera, gps, compass, etc. didnt work ;)
251 2011-12-01T21:28:11 <ThomasWaldmann> the question was not quite whether we can find a mentor
252 2011-12-01T21:28:52 <ThomasWaldmann> but the student says he doesn't speak finnish well himself, but has something to help him. i think it is required that the student does the task, right?
253 2011-12-01T21:28:57 <izibi> TheSheep: and the phone got pretty hot sometimes while being in your pocket :D
254 2011-12-01T21:29:00 <ThomasWaldmann> someone*
255 2011-12-01T21:29:17 <TheSheep> izibi: cozy
256 2011-12-01T22:02:30 <Donald95> http://imageshack.us/f/502/google2copy.jpg/
257 2011-12-01T22:02:38 <Donald95> spacing fixed
258 2011-12-01T22:11:51 *** dave_largo
259 2011-12-01T22:30:57 <dreimark> Donald95: is MS same as M$ ?
260 2011-12-01T22:36:52 <Donald95> dreimark:I have no idea about the second
261 2011-12-01T22:37:19 <dreimark> Microsoft? has this font a open source license
262 2011-12-01T22:37:59 <Donald95> dreimark:yes it is in the included windows fonts
263 2011-12-01T22:39:25 *** Sysi
264 2011-12-01T22:40:01 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: Sysi can help with the finnish translation
265 2011-12-01T22:44:08 <TheSheep> Sysi: the task is not claimed yet, it would be a couple of days until the student does it
266 2011-12-01T22:44:57 <dreimark> Donald95: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1535
267 2011-12-01T22:46:43 <dreimark> I don't see that it has an open source license. Who knows if that matters for an image based on that font?
268 2011-12-01T22:46:57 <Sysi> TheSheep: okay
269 2011-12-01T22:47:16 <RogerHaase> dreimark: Donald95: assuming the buttons are distributes as png or jpg, I don't think the font license matters as long as the ceator had a license to use the font.
270 2011-12-01T22:47:40 <dreimark> ok
271 2011-12-01T22:47:40 <RogerHaase> ceator/creator
272 2011-12-01T22:50:39 <Donald95> dreimark: if It is in the windows/fonts folder when you buy windows I think you can use it for whatever you want
273 2011-12-01T22:52:32 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: difficult to find something about that in the rules. I remember a discussion where it is allowed to get help.
274 2011-12-01T22:54:27 *** baizon
275 2011-12-01T22:54:29 *** pkumar
276 2011-12-01T22:54:30 *** baizon
277 2011-12-01T22:57:25 <Donald95> dreikmark: on the link it says "Purchase & Download Comic Sans MS font for personal, professional or business use on workstations" isn't that the thing you are looking for?
278 2011-12-01T22:59:04 <dreimark> Donald95: i think RogerHaase is right.
279 2011-12-01T23:01:34 <Donald95> dreimark:aah ok
280 2011-12-01T23:22:09 <dreimark> gn
281 2011-12-01T23:34:14 *** RogerHaase
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