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   5 2012-01-03T04:52:00  <Dragooon> Anybody her?
   6 2012-01-03T04:52:09  <Dragooon> here*
   7 2012-01-03T04:52:12  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: ?
   8 2012-01-03T04:52:35  <Dragooon> dreimark: ?
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  10 2012-01-03T05:04:26  <Dragooon> MattMaker: Are you a mentor?
  11 2012-01-03T05:35:36  <MattMaker> I am not
  12 2012-01-03T05:36:13  <MattMaker> I mean, you can ask me a question, but I'm just some guy
  13 2012-01-03T05:40:29  <Dragooon> Well, you can review if the change I made is correct, right?
  14 2012-01-03T06:37:15  <MattMaker> Regrettably, no. I haven't looked at the code in a while. I made some patches awhile back, and I will probably contribute again in the future, but my understanding of the code is not current.
  15 2012-01-03T06:38:45  <Dragooon> No problem, I think I figured out a good solution for the problem
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  18 2012-01-03T08:37:21  <Dragooon> Back
  19 2012-01-03T08:37:22  <Dragooon> N
  20 2012-01-03T08:37:24  <Dragooon> No one here?
  21 2012-01-03T08:44:41  <dreimark> moin
  22 2012-01-03T08:45:08  <dreimark> Dragooon: please don't ask to ask
  23 2012-01-03T08:45:25  <dreimark> everyone here if he is able to help will try to help
  24 2012-01-03T08:46:07  <Dragooon> Sorry, got a little bit impatient
  25 2012-01-03T08:46:52  <Dragooon> I have uploaded the fixed version of atom feed
  26 2012-01-03T08:47:45  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i currently look at the sphinx task
  27 2012-01-03T09:35:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: comments added. some more questions should be answered. work is great so far
  28 2012-01-03T09:36:07  <dreimark> eSyr: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7196360
  29 2012-01-03T09:36:26  <dreimark> is something missing from a translators perspective ?
  30 2012-01-03T09:40:53  <Dragooon> dreimark: Can you tell me the difficulty of this issue?
  31 2012-01-03T09:40:54  <Dragooon> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/127/footnote-placing-does-not-work
  32 2012-01-03T09:50:04  <dreimark> i guess it is easy or medium.
  33 2012-01-03T09:51:43  <Dragooon> Uploaded minor fixes
  34 2012-01-03T09:54:00  <Dragooon> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/141/empty-item-gives-ugly-rendering
  35 2012-01-03T09:54:02  <Dragooon> ^ That one?
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  37 2012-01-03T10:54:43  <dreimark> Dragooon: easy
  38 2012-01-03T10:55:07  <Dragooon> Yeah okay
  39 2012-01-03T10:55:14  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo some summmarize at end of that page
  40 2012-01-03T10:59:34  <Dragooon> Metadata editing sounds easy
  41 2012-01-03T11:46:31  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  42 2012-01-03T11:46:45  <Dragooon> We great people like that here?
  43 2012-01-03T11:52:08  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinEtymology
  44 2012-01-03T11:53:38  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: Hopefully I got the escaping problem figured out now :)
  45 2012-01-03T11:55:04  <ThomasWaldmann> if you want review, just give the url.
  46 2012-01-03T11:55:23  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/5489133/
  47 2012-01-03T12:31:03  <ThomasWaldmann> review done
  48 2012-01-03T12:31:40  <ThomasWaldmann> as it is still inconsistent, i did not check for full correctness
  49 2012-01-03T12:32:16  <Dragooon> I didn't drop XSLT but decided to correct Mime
  50 2012-01-03T12:32:29  <Dragooon> As that way it'll be available for those who support it properly without messing anything
  51 2012-01-03T12:32:34  <ThomasWaldmann> comment there
  52 2012-01-03T12:33:12  <ThomasWaldmann> and the stuff that is useful long-term should be in the source comments
  53 2012-01-03T12:36:08  <Dragooon> ok let me fix
  54 2012-01-03T12:36:13  <Dragooon> Trying to install Moin all day
  55 2012-01-03T12:37:34  <ThomasWaldmann> ? that should take far less.
  56 2012-01-03T12:38:10  <Dragooon> Downloading at 4kbps doesn't help
  57 2012-01-03T12:39:06  <ThomasWaldmann> make sure to (re)use the dlc dir if your conn is that slow
  58 2012-01-03T12:40:06  <Dragooon> It won't cause conflicts?
  59 2012-01-03T12:40:41  <ThomasWaldmann> it is just a download cache, so it won't download same stuff again
  60 2012-01-03T12:41:59  <ThomasWaldmann> why is your conn that slow btw?
  61 2012-01-03T12:42:11  <Dragooon> It isn't
  62 2012-01-03T12:42:16  <Dragooon> Somehow it's been acting up
  63 2012-01-03T12:46:02  <Dragooon> Damnit, working on 3 tasks at once doesn't help
  64 2012-01-03T12:48:16  <ThomasWaldmann> how is that possible? :)
  65 2012-01-03T12:48:48  <Dragooon> I multi task and then get them approved later
  66 2012-01-03T12:49:21  <ThomasWaldmann> you mean you work on stuff before claiming?
  67 2012-01-03T12:49:44  <Dragooon> Yes
  68 2012-01-03T12:50:17  <ThomasWaldmann> risky and not quite intended like that
  69 2012-01-03T12:50:33  <Dragooon> Yes
  70 2012-01-03T12:56:47  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: "use "..." for attribute values" What?
  71 2012-01-03T12:57:20  <ThomasWaldmann> you used '...' at one place and "..." at another place in same file
  72 2012-01-03T12:57:29  <Dragooon> It's like this
  73 2012-01-03T12:57:36  <Dragooon> "Long title Long title long title…"
  74 2012-01-03T12:57:37  <Dragooon> Then at body
  75 2012-01-03T12:57:43  <Dragooon> "…Long title long title long title"
  76 2012-01-03T12:58:33  <Dragooon> That's so that the titles don't become too long and mess up the reader
  77 2012-01-03T12:58:43  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, why is that, is there a length limit for title?
  78 2012-01-03T12:58:55  <Dragooon> No, but having a 250 char title is really annoying
  79 2012-01-03T12:59:24  <ThomasWaldmann> you are using the comment as title currently
  80 2012-01-03T12:59:29  <Dragooon> Yea
  81 2012-01-03T12:59:38  <ThomasWaldmann> not sure whether that is that useful
  82 2012-01-03T12:59:52  <ThomasWaldmann> because many people are lazy and just saving without comment
  83 2012-01-03T12:59:59  <Dragooon> THen it'll say no comment
  84 2012-01-03T13:00:13  <Dragooon> Page name doesn't make sense since thats same for eveyrbody
  85 2012-01-03T13:00:15  <ThomasWaldmann> it might say that 80% of the time
  86 2012-01-03T13:01:26  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/RecentChanges just look at the right area there
  87 2012-01-03T13:01:51  <Dragooon> Ah, any suggestions?
  88 2012-01-03T13:01:59  <Dragooon> <hash> : <comment>?
  89 2012-01-03T13:02:47  <ThomasWaldmann> <name>: <comment>
  90 2012-01-03T13:03:03  <Dragooon> But name is already shown in most of the readers
  91 2012-01-03T13:03:15  <ThomasWaldmann> where?
  92 2012-01-03T13:03:22  <Dragooon> Below the title in mine
  93 2012-01-03T13:04:05  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, then I don't know
  94 2012-01-03T13:04:13  <Dragooon> Leave as is?
  95 2012-01-03T13:04:39  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
  96 2012-01-03T13:08:51  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7196360
  97 2012-01-03T13:09:03  <dreimark> further comments, otherwise i set it to more work
  98 2012-01-03T13:10:46  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: Uploaded
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 100 2012-01-03T13:28:14  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7196360 commented there
 101 2012-01-03T13:28:55  <Dragooon> Is it unethical to use type in code?
 102 2012-01-03T13:29:11  <ThomasWaldmann> we should not try to extend the scope of a task beyond the original scope
 103 2012-01-03T13:29:23  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes, then we should close it
 104 2012-01-03T13:29:50  <dreimark> or May be we need some different mode to get at all first documentation / translation archieved.
 105 2012-01-03T13:30:14  <dreimark> if we do that at all, then it is also no problem within that task
 106 2012-01-03T13:30:49  <dreimark> +ourselfs
 107 2012-01-03T13:33:12  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you could try to extract and make more precise the parts of your comment that is within the original scope.
 108 2012-01-03T13:35:15  <ThomasWaldmann> Dragooon: you mean type(x)?
 109 2012-01-03T13:35:20  <Dragooon> Yeah
 110 2012-01-03T13:35:52  <ThomasWaldmann> one usually rather uses isinstance(x, type), but only if it is really needed
 111 2012-01-03T13:36:21  <Dragooon> Did you get a chance to review my upload?
 112 2012-01-03T13:36:31  <ThomasWaldmann> looking now
 113 2012-01-03T13:38:21  <Dragooon> BTW, https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/134/mediawiki-parser-throws-exception-on-file
 114 2012-01-03T13:38:25  <Dragooon> What is the difficulty of that?
 115 2012-01-03T13:39:32  <ThomasWaldmann> somehow those unescape calls seem to jump around randomly
 116 2012-01-03T13:39:47  <Dragooon> Sorry, should've explained them
 117 2012-01-03T13:39:55  <Dragooon> Basically returned content is escaped
 118 2012-01-03T13:40:02  <Dragooon> When passing to render_template it gets escaped again
 119 2012-01-03T13:40:15  <xorAxAx> Dragooon: have a look at Markup
 120 2012-01-03T13:40:21  <Dragooon> In render_diff_atom's case it is not escaped
 121 2012-01-03T13:40:21  <xorAxAx> never call unescape
 122 2012-01-03T13:41:14  <Dragooon> Hm
 123 2012-01-03T13:41:14  <qxcv> dreimark: tried to cover all the stuff in your comment except individual string translation http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/SamToyer/SphinxMoinCooperation?action=diff&rev2=22&rev1=20
 124 2012-01-03T13:41:17  <Dragooon> That might work
 125 2012-01-03T13:42:35  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: i was pointing at Markup() since a while, but somehow it didn't get through
 126 2012-01-03T13:42:59  <Dragooon> Markup was causing me troubles elsewhere, so I didn't think of using it here
 127 2012-01-03T13:45:34  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: Tested and uploaded
 128 2012-01-03T13:52:24  <ThomasWaldmann> Dragooon: so your initial problems with Markup() are resolved now?
 129 2012-01-03T13:52:31  <Dragooon> Yea
 130 2012-01-03T13:54:16  <ThomasWaldmann> can you remove unused imports?
 131 2012-01-03T13:55:25  <Dragooon> Out of curiosity, do they slow things down?
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 133 2012-01-03T13:59:20  <ThomasWaldmann> Dragooon: that depends whether it is the first import of the module or not
 134 2012-01-03T14:00:06  <Dragooon> Uploaded
 135 2012-01-03T14:00:08  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is first import of that module, yes (significantly), if not, yes (but not significantly)
 136 2012-01-03T14:00:14  <Dragooon> Oh okay
 137 2012-01-03T14:01:44  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i suggest you do test all the pathes in your code and make sure it works as expected
 138 2012-01-03T14:02:29  <Dragooon> Did quite a few of them. I got 3 pages with quite weird histories
 139 2012-01-03T14:02:29  <ThomasWaldmann> then you split your changeset into at least 2 smaller ones
 140 2012-01-03T14:02:36  <Dragooon> 2 smaller ones?
 141 2012-01-03T14:03:06  <ThomasWaldmann> like the one where you first fixed the other code (unicode issues) and then the one with your new stuff
 142 2012-01-03T14:03:17  <Dragooon> Oh okay
 143 2012-01-03T14:03:35  <ThomasWaldmann> before committing, make sure you configured your name/email correctly in mercurial
 144 2012-01-03T14:04:00  <ThomasWaldmann> did you clone my repo on bitbucket?
 145 2012-01-03T14:04:13  <Dragooon> Yeah
 146 2012-01-03T14:04:43  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then publish your stuff there and submit the repo url to melange
 147 2012-01-03T14:04:46  <Dragooon> I'll do that in a minute, a guy is fixing my net so won't upload now
 148 2012-01-03T14:05:08  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i need to leave for a while now anyway
 149 2012-01-03T14:05:23  <Dragooon> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/134/mediawiki-parser-throws-exception-on-file that would be easy, right?
 150 2012-01-03T14:12:46  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe rather medium
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 152 2012-01-03T14:12:57  <Dragooon> Okay
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 154 2012-01-03T14:16:08  <Dragooon> Any idea where the logic is for footnotes in join wiki doc type?
 155 2012-01-03T14:16:13  <Dragooon> moin*
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 159 2012-01-03T15:04:10  <Dragooon> dreimark: Is this issue still valid?
 160 2012-01-03T15:04:27  <Dragooon> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/76/recursion-on-item-changes
 161 2012-01-03T15:16:19  <dreimark> i have had no time to split it yet
 162 2012-01-03T15:17:17  <Dragooon> But if I change a title on base, it changes for the above as well
 163 2012-01-03T15:17:20  <Dragooon> So does it still apply?
 164 2012-01-03T15:19:47  <dreimark> then half of it is fixed.
 165 2012-01-03T15:20:05  <dreimark> or total, i can't currently not check whats with the acl part
 166 2012-01-03T15:20:32  <dreimark> -not
 167 2012-01-03T15:27:31  <dreimark> Dragooon: comment on it that hald of it is fixed if you like
 168 2012-01-03T15:27:37  <dreimark> s/d/f/
 169 2012-01-03T15:29:02  <Dragooon> hg push keeps saying error 255 : searching for changes
 170 2012-01-03T15:33:41  <Dragooon> Deleted remote and tried again, worked :D
 171 2012-01-03T15:48:33  <ThomasWaldmann> re
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 173 2012-01-03T15:50:07  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: hi :) can you have a look?: http://moinmo.in/vishalpanjwani/gcitask
 174 2012-01-03T15:54:54  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann:  The 2nd paragraph is OK. The remainder needs a lot of work.
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 176 2012-01-03T17:44:47  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i think the sphinx/moin task is near to the end (from my side). i just added a small thing, but other than that it is ok for me, so i think we should close it soon.
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 178 2012-01-03T20:52:59  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: he is very fast, and it is very good work
 179 2012-01-03T21:03:21  <dreimark> bbl
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 181 2012-01-03T21:56:55  <Dragooon_> Anybody here?
 182 2012-01-03T21:57:30  <ThomasWaldmann> yup
 183 2012-01-03T21:58:54  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: Can you approve my claim for http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7141270
 184 2012-01-03T22:00:15  <ThomasWaldmann> done
 185 2012-01-03T22:00:38  <Dragooon> Do I send a pull request or just link to the commit/
 186 2012-01-03T22:00:39  <Dragooon> ?
 187 2012-01-03T22:01:52  <ThomasWaldmann> submit the repo url
 188 2012-01-03T22:01:57  <ThomasWaldmann> when done
 189 2012-01-03T22:02:30  <Dragooon> Done
 190 2012-01-03T22:06:01  <ThomasWaldmann> you didn't do 2 changesets
 191 2012-01-03T22:06:22  <Dragooon> Oh damn
 192 2012-01-03T22:06:24  <Dragooon> Sorry, I forgot
 193 2012-01-03T22:06:28  <Dragooon> Give me 10 minutes
 194 2012-01-03T22:08:27  <ThomasWaldmann> also, set a real name please
 195 2012-01-03T22:09:55  <Dragooon> I did not see that coming
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 198 2012-01-03T22:29:57  <Dragooon> ThomasWaldmann: Okay done
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