1 2012-01-12T00:56:29  <Dragooon> Hello
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   7 2012-01-12T04:57:57  <bilal> Hi, can anyone help me with this? I want to check whether the current user has the "create" privilege, that's it
   8 2012-01-12T04:58:18  <bilal> I can't use a function like modify or anything, I just want to check if the required permission is there
   9 2012-01-12T05:03:48  <bilal> Okay, I got it
  10 2012-01-12T05:10:11  <bilal> ah well, no, it didn't
  11 2012-01-12T05:10:23  <bilal> I'm inside a NonExistant object and I want to find out the ACLs of the current user
  12 2012-01-12T05:10:26  <bilal> how do I do that?
  13 2012-01-12T05:21:33  <bilal> okay, got it :)
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  16 2012-01-12T09:15:46  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  18 2012-01-12T11:32:00  <dreimark> moin
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  20 2012-01-12T13:50:52  <CIA-59> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 567:854b5b2a059c extensions/data/plugin/parser/interwiki.py: parser.interwiki: renders interwikimap page as link list
  21 2012-01-12T14:11:57  <CIA-59> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 568:ee926de5e6e1 extensions/README.txt: README: about this repository
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  23 2012-01-12T15:01:48  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: how can you render valid links from iw map without knowing the target pagename?
  24 2012-01-12T15:14:09  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it is only the link to the other "wiki" or fallback
  25 2012-01-12T15:14:33  <Dragooon> Moin
  26 2012-01-12T15:14:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: https://bitbucket.org/ReimarBauer/moin1-extensions/
  27 2012-01-12T15:22:35  * dreimark looks at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7182220
  28 2012-01-12T15:33:56  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: how does that answer my question?
  29 2012-01-12T15:38:05  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: for rendering why does it need the target?
  30 2012-01-12T15:38:09  <dreimark> pagename
  31 2012-01-12T15:38:34  <dreimark> CLaMS https://clams.icg.kfa-juelich.de/CLaMS/
  32 2012-01-12T15:38:38  <dreimark> e.g. ^^
  33 2012-01-12T15:39:01  <dreimark> it can render this as [[https://clams.icg.kfa-juelich.de/CLaMS/|CLaMS]]
  34 2012-01-12T15:39:10  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: for inserting it whereever $PAGE says
  35 2012-01-12T15:41:37  <dreimark> hmm, that was not indented. I often use the interwikimap page as a navigation between farminstances. So one can get by this link to a different wiki
  36 2012-01-12T15:42:15  <ThomasWaldmann> well, it just doesn't work for all cases
  37 2012-01-12T15:42:57  <ThomasWaldmann> PythonFaq http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?req=show&file=faq$PAGE.htp
  38 2012-01-12T15:43:58  <dreimark> works, somehow it links to the Python Frequently Asked Questions topic
  39 2012-01-12T15:44:34  <ThomasWaldmann> sheer luck, could also just give 404
  40 2012-01-12T15:45:04  <dreimark> hehe, lets see. I see your point. IO think already obout a better name
  41 2012-01-12T15:45:17  <ThomasWaldmann> but you are lucky, in our iwmap, that seems the only url pattern making use of $PAGE
  42 2012-01-12T15:45:46  <ThomasWaldmann> what we need is a better spec for iwmaps
  43 2012-01-12T15:45:58  <dreimark> the name for it is because we can link to non wiki stuff a bit wrong
  44 2012-01-12T15:46:06  <dreimark> InterMap or so
  45 2012-01-12T15:46:12  <ThomasWaldmann> i think we'll do that after namespaces branch is merged and finished
  46 2012-01-12T15:46:15  <dreimark> without wiki would be more correct
  47 2012-01-12T15:50:25  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: eSyr comments http://f.cl.ly/items/0B3N3Z1531263T0k3K24/moinmoin.pdf
  48 2012-01-12T15:50:33  <dreimark> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7230224
  49 2012-01-12T15:53:23  <eSyr> dreimark: i'm not good at latin :(
  50 2012-01-12T15:54:30  <dreimark> eSyr: me too, i think it is a draft with some lorem ipsum
  51 2012-01-12T15:54:53  <eSyr> well, rather standard template from template bank.
  52 2012-01-12T15:54:59  <eSyr> i'm ok with it :)
  53 2012-01-12T16:18:30  <ThomasWaldmann> it is a nice design, but not especially suited for getting folded 3 times
  54 2012-01-12T16:20:00  <ThomasWaldmann> also the red colour and font of the "moinmoin" in the right bottom corner somehow doesn't fit
  55 2012-01-12T16:20:37  <ThomasWaldmann> also, docx is no acceptable format
  56 2012-01-12T16:21:08  * ThomasWaldmann puts that into melange
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  58 2012-01-12T18:06:15  <abril427> my task is http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7141269
  59 2012-01-12T18:07:10  <abril427> ThomasWaldmann: I am using spreadshirt to create my store but they do not have the font you wanted, I can try and edit the image I am using to have the specified font on it, or can I use a different font?
  60 2012-01-12T18:09:26  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: you can use a similar font also, but make sure the font looks ok (e.g. kerning is right)
  61 2012-01-12T18:09:52  <ThomasWaldmann> and that font is also known under some other names, google it
  62 2012-01-12T18:11:29  <dreimark> bbl
  63 2012-01-12T18:20:31  <abril427> ThomasWaldmann: would you like me to change the password and email login to the store to a specific one so you can use it?
  64 2012-01-12T18:24:15  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: as I said: i they want personal data, I guess I need to create the account
  65 2012-01-12T18:26:23  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: shall I do so?
  66 2012-01-12T18:29:41  <abril427> I have an account created, I can just change info
  67 2012-01-12T18:29:51  <ThomasWaldmann> see query
  68 2012-01-12T18:30:45  <abril427> i.e. address of your offices and email you would like me to use
  69 2012-01-12T18:31:00  <ThomasWaldmann> see the query windows i just opened for you
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  72 2012-01-12T19:06:10  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: the back side is not as i told you
  73 2012-01-12T19:06:31  <ThomasWaldmann> <LOGO> of course meant to insert the logo image in between there
  74 2012-01-12T19:06:56  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmoin.spreadshirt.com/men-s-heavyweight-t-shirt-A8869058/customize/color/2 < we are talking about that
  75 2012-01-12T19:07:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, nice, on that screen colour selection works
  76 2012-01-12T19:09:21  <abril427> yes sorry I forgot that, added now, except I had to insert logo under http://moinmo.in
  77 2012-01-12T19:09:56  <abril427> ThomasWaldmann: would you like a design on the back of each piece of clothing or only T-shirts?
  78 2012-01-12T19:11:11  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: you can't put it between the text lines?
  79 2012-01-12T19:11:36  <abril427> the product design will not allow me to separate lines of text
  80 2012-01-12T19:11:42  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: i think you can do the same for hoodies
  81 2012-01-12T19:11:52  <ThomasWaldmann> (or jackets)
  82 2012-01-12T19:11:55  <abril427> okay
  83 2012-01-12T19:12:13  <abril427> besides the four pieces already in the shop what else would you like me to add?
  84 2012-01-12T19:12:40  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is cold, one often does not wear a moin tshirt, but if you have a jacket, you can hang it over your chair and people will know what project you're from
  85 2012-01-12T19:13:42  <ThomasWaldmann> well, i don't know what they have. did you already change the login and personal data?
  86 2012-01-12T19:15:59  <abril427> Okay I will add a jacket also
  87 2012-01-12T19:16:34  <abril427> yes personal data is changed
  88 2012-01-12T19:25:26  <ThomasWaldmann> is there a special reason why you mix digital direct and flex print?
  89 2012-01-12T19:25:47  <abril427> no
  90 2012-01-12T19:26:05  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmoin.spreadshirt.com/men-s-heavyweight-t-shirt-A8869150/customize/color/2 see there
  91 2012-01-12T19:27:14  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, our logo has 4 colours
  92 2012-01-12T19:28:10  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe check how print type influences price of the product
  93 2012-01-12T19:30:07  <abril427> okay, I will continue editing and check back a little later
  94 2012-01-12T19:35:17  <ThomasWaldmann> abril427: answer my question in the query window, please
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  96 2012-01-12T19:47:35  <ThomasWaldmann> gna
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  98 2012-01-12T20:15:40  <moin6> hallo
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 101 2012-01-12T20:25:37  <DirkAlders> Guten Abend zusammen...
 102 2012-01-12T20:28:57  <ThomasWaldmann> moin DirkAlders
 103 2012-01-12T20:29:53  <DirkAlders> Ich hatte heute kontakt zu ReimarBauer wegen arnica und ggf. auch später mehr.
 104 2012-01-12T20:30:40  <ThomasWaldmann> yup, er hat's erwaehnt. btw, wenn's nix ausmacht: Englisch hier :)
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 107 2012-01-12T20:50:20  <DirkAlders> All right. I am new in an open source project. I want to help to improve whatever. Yesterday I tried to install moin2 but it didn't work ;-(
 108 2012-01-12T20:53:20  <ThomasWaldmann> did you read the fine manual?
 109 2012-01-12T20:54:00  <ThomasWaldmann> new moin2 feature: we have nice docs now :D
 110 2012-01-12T20:54:03  <DirkAlders> i only read the quick guide where you use ./quickinstall.
 111 2012-01-12T20:54:20  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, and how did it start non-working
 112 2012-01-12T20:54:27  <DirkAlders> I also installed the package which includes pip I don't know the name anymore.
 113 2012-01-12T20:55:30  <ThomasWaldmann> virtualenv
 114 2012-01-12T20:55:38  <DirkAlders> yep
 115 2012-01-12T20:55:57  <ThomasWaldmann> you are using linux? which?
 116 2012-01-12T20:56:22  <DirkAlders> and on starting it came up with an message of missing packages or so. give me some minutes and i try it one more time
 117 2012-01-12T20:56:31  <DirkAlders> ubuntu 10.10
 118 2012-01-12T21:02:43  <ThomasWaldmann> did you activate the virtualenv before starting moin?
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 120 2012-01-12T21:04:17  <DirkAlders> yes i did. as a guide i used a presentation of reimar, describing how to get and how to start moin2
 121 2012-01-12T21:04:46  <DirkAlders> i deleted it yesterday. so it'll take some time^^
 122 2012-01-12T21:06:51  <ThomasWaldmann> if you copy the dlc/ directory to a new moin dir, pip will use the contents of that download cache and not dl it all again
 123 2012-01-12T21:14:37  <DirkAlders> i got the following traceback:  File "/home/dirk/tmp/moin2/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs2.py", line 23, in <module>
 124 2012-01-12T21:14:39  <DirkAlders>     from sqlalchemy.exceptions import IntegrityError
 125 2012-01-12T21:14:41  <DirkAlders> ImportError: No module named exceptions
 126 2012-01-12T21:22:18  <ThomasWaldmann> whoops
 127 2012-01-12T21:22:49  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, where did you get your copy of moin from?
 128 2012-01-12T21:23:05  <ThomasWaldmann> and when?
 129 2012-01-12T21:23:15  <ThomasWaldmann> DirkAlders:
 130 2012-01-12T21:23:50  <DirkAlders> one minute ago. with command: hg clone http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev moin2
 131 2012-01-12T21:24:12  <ThomasWaldmann> where did you get that command line from?
 132 2012-01-12T21:24:33  <DirkAlders> http://static.moinmo.in/files/presentation/pycologne_moin2alpha/build/html/intro/Quickinstall.html
 133 2012-01-12T21:24:36  <ThomasWaldmann> (you need http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0 - without the -dev)
 134 2012-01-12T21:24:53  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that changed since then
 135 2012-01-12T21:25:06  <ThomasWaldmann> but keep the dlc directory for your next try
 136 2012-01-12T21:26:11  <ThomasWaldmann> http://readthedocs.org/docs/moin-20/en/latest/#administrating-moinmoin there are current docs
 137 2012-01-12T21:27:17  <DirkAlders> but it's correct to use the commands: ./quickinstall
 138 2012-01-12T21:27:43  <DirkAlders> source env/bin/activate
 139 2012-01-12T21:27:46  <DirkAlders> ./moin
 140 2012-01-12T21:28:12  <DirkAlders> ./moin is not there
 141 2012-01-12T21:28:54  <ThomasWaldmann> just "moin"
 142 2012-01-12T21:29:09  <ThomasWaldmann> after you active the venv, it is in PATH
 143 2012-01-12T21:30:50  <DirkAlders> is there anything to configure?
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 145 2012-01-12T21:31:49  <ThomasWaldmann> did you read the new docs?
 146 2012-01-12T21:32:05  <DirkAlders> net yet fully.
 147 2012-01-12T21:32:20  <ThomasWaldmann> there is a current step-by-step instruction
 148 2012-01-12T21:32:40  <DirkAlders> ok i try it
 149 2012-01-12T21:32:40  <ThomasWaldmann> and if THAT doesn't work, you can help us by finding that out :)
 150 2012-01-12T21:32:54  <DirkAlders> great!
 151 2012-01-12T21:38:01  <DirkAlders> got it. its running. thanks.
 152 2012-01-12T21:43:07  <ThomasWaldmann> cool, so docs work :D
 153 2012-01-12T21:44:53  <DirkAlders> you are right ;-)
 154 2012-01-12T21:46:38  <DirkAlders> may i ask one thing regarding moin 1.9
 155 2012-01-12T21:46:44  <ThomasWaldmann> sure
 156 2012-01-12T21:47:17  <DirkAlders> is there a possibility to use the wiki parser in an action?
 157 2012-01-12T21:47:28  <DirkAlders> i am able to use it in a parser or macro
 158 2012-01-12T21:48:17  <DirkAlders> just by:
 159 2012-01-12T21:48:21  <DirkAlders>         parser=MoinParser(moin_output, self.request)
 160 2012-01-12T21:48:23  <DirkAlders>         parser.format(self.formatter)
 161 2012-01-12T21:49:23  <DirkAlders> in an action i use:
 162 2012-01-12T21:49:27  <DirkAlders>             self.request.setContentLanguage(self.request.lang)
 163 2012-01-12T21:49:29  <DirkAlders>             self.request.theme.send_title(self.request.getText(u'Action-Template on Page "%s"') % (self.title, ), page=self.page)
 164 2012-01-12T21:49:41  <DirkAlders>             self.request.write(u"<h1>Page information</h1>\n<ul>")
 165 2012-01-12T21:49:54  <DirkAlders>             self.request.theme.send_footer(self.pagename)
 166 2012-01-12T21:49:56  <DirkAlders>             self.request.theme.send_closing_html()
 167 2012-01-12T21:50:14  <DirkAlders> but only html
 168 2012-01-12T21:51:21  <ThomasWaldmann> well, somehow it could be done. likely you need to initialize something that is usually not done in an action
 169 2012-01-12T21:51:50  <ThomasWaldmann> but think about how much time you want to put in into 1.9 development
 170 2012-01-12T21:51:53  <DirkAlders> sounds plausible
 171 2012-01-12T21:52:35  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it makes sense only doing minor stuff in 1.9 and doing major stuff with moin2
 172 2012-01-12T21:53:44  <DirkAlders> the thing is that my plugins are not yet like i want to have them. i want to improve the code to able to publish them. After that i want to convert the plugins.
 173 2012-01-12T21:55:19  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
 174 2012-01-12T21:55:26  <DirkAlders> this is what i get:
 175 2012-01-12T21:55:31  <DirkAlders>   File "/home/dirk/localwiki/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py", line 1433, in format
 176 2012-01-12T21:55:33  <DirkAlders>     self.hilite_re = self.formatter.page.hilite_re
 177 2012-01-12T21:55:35  <DirkAlders> AttributeError: Formatter instance has no attribute 'page'
 178 2012-01-12T21:56:21  <ThomasWaldmann> create a Page instance p, create a formatter instance f, f.page = p
 179 2012-01-12T21:58:52  <DirkAlders> that it was. i wasn't brave enough to do this.
 180 2012-01-12T22:06:44  <DirkAlders> i was worried about the influence i am not able to see. so. thaks a lot and good night to all.
 181 2012-01-12T22:06:53  <DirkAlders> +n
 182 2012-01-12T22:07:27  <ThomasWaldmann> gn DirkAlders
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