1 2012-01-29T04:03:12 *** sudo_dirk
2 2012-01-29T04:05:12 *** dreimark
3 2012-01-29T04:05:27 *** dreimark
4 2012-01-29T06:09:28 *** sudo_dirk
5 2012-01-29T06:13:08 *** qxcv
6 2012-01-29T09:14:31 *** kanha
7 2012-01-29T09:33:33 *** raignarok
8 2012-01-29T12:05:39 *** greg_f
9 2012-01-29T12:38:01 *** qxcv
10 2012-01-29T12:38:24 *** kanha
11 2012-01-29T12:39:02 *** kanha
12 2012-01-29T12:49:42 *** kanha
13 2012-01-29T12:50:55 *** qxcv
14 2012-01-29T13:33:03 *** qxcv
15 2012-01-29T13:34:15 <dreimark> moin
16 2012-01-29T13:47:42 *** dreimark
17 2012-01-29T13:47:42 *** dreimark
18 2012-01-29T14:51:28 *** sudo_dirk2
19 2012-01-29T14:52:41 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: moin... in env/lib/python2.6/flaskext is no __init__.py. is that part of moin2? is that correct as it is?
20 2012-01-29T14:55:35 <ThomasWaldmann> works for me
21 2012-01-29T14:57:58 <sudo_dirk2> i want to install it with apache. i decided to not use the setup to get stuff in my site-packages directory and added the env/lib/python2.6/site-packages to sys.path. i got trouble with those missing __init__.py
22 2012-01-29T14:59:02 <ThomasWaldmann> create a virtualenv for your apache install (== use quickinstall), use that virtualenv for mod_wsgi (google it)
23 2012-01-29T15:02:26 <sudo_dirk2> ok... i will have a look. the env is already existing. ;-)
24 2012-01-29T15:05:49 <ThomasWaldmann> you have to create it, not copy it from another place
25 2012-01-29T15:06:52 <sudo_dirk2> i created it for a non apache wiki on the same machine.
26 2012-01-29T15:08:11 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, just don't move it
27 2012-01-29T15:08:41 <sudo_dirk2> ah, ok.
28 2012-01-29T15:12:37 *** kanah
29 2012-01-29T15:13:34 <kanah> I am working on usersetting bug(https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/151/submitting-user-settings-personal-settings).can anyone tell in which part of the code default value for <form['openid'].value> is assingned?
30 2012-01-29T15:26:12 <ThomasWaldmann> kanah: MoinMoin.apps.frontend.views about line 892
31 2012-01-29T15:26:37 <ThomasWaldmann> (that's the form definition, you can find the other stuff easily from that)
32 2012-01-29T15:28:23 <kanah> and what is <flaskg.user.name>? Is it the currently loged username?
33 2012-01-29T15:35:36 *** kanah
34 2012-01-29T15:42:09 *** RogerHaase
35 2012-01-29T15:42:55 *** xorAxAx
36 2012-01-29T15:57:27 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I have a patch to delete a bit of unused CSS: http://codereview.appspot.com/5574064/
37 2012-01-29T15:58:55 *** sudo_dirk2
38 2012-01-29T16:01:25 <RogerHaase> I left unused placeholder CSS for editor-help, textchas, calendar and download.
39 2012-01-29T16:01:50 <ThomasWaldmann> hi RogerHaase
40 2012-01-29T16:02:32 <RogerHaase> moin
41 2012-01-29T16:03:47 <ThomasWaldmann> that moin-nonexistent:visited, why is it unused?
42 2012-01-29T16:04:13 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i better put all on CR
43 2012-01-29T16:04:28 <RogerHaase> I do not know of a way to visit a non-existant link
44 2012-01-29T16:08:08 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, done
45 2012-01-29T16:08:32 <ThomasWaldmann> well, the link exists, just not the target item
46 2012-01-29T16:08:47 <ThomasWaldmann> when you click on it, you will get to the create item dialogue
47 2012-01-29T16:10:36 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: btw, did you see that issue tracker entry of the student who worked on unused css (but later gave up and did not finish the task)?
48 2012-01-29T16:14:29 <RogerHaase> Yes, I added some comments. I do not think this can be done manually by looking at code. It is hard to prove a bit of CSS is not being used: javascript, algorithims to add moin- prefix, {{#!wiki someclass passthroughs, etc.
49 2012-01-29T16:17:00 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, would you like helping with the foobar theme? (the new sidebar theme that still searches a name)?
50 2012-01-29T16:17:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i didn't commit it yet, because some parts are broken still. but otoh I should work on getting that namespaces branch mergable also...
51 2012-01-29T16:18:40 <RogerHaase> As time permits, I am still busy with other things several days each week.
52 2012-01-29T16:22:02 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I'll commit it soon.
53 2012-01-29T16:24:45 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: maybe have a look at "stylus" css meta language (and at working with mercurial branches, in case you are unfamiliar with it)
54 2012-01-29T16:25:34 <ThomasWaldmann> the foobar theme started from zero, so there hopefully currently is no unused css
55 2012-01-29T16:30:18 <sudo_dirk> ThomasWaldmann: moin2 is now running under apache. there was a moin.wsgi in the doc area. i had to add some stuff there to get it running. should i put those changes to cr? possibly they are useful for all...
56 2012-01-29T16:41:40 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk: yes, please!
57 2012-01-29T16:53:42 *** sudo_dirk2
58 2012-01-29T16:54:37 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/5577071
59 2012-01-29T16:54:43 *** sudo_dirk2
60 2012-01-29T16:56:21 <sudo_dirk> ThomasWaldmann: sorry, i was a bit in a hurry, therefore three commits ;-)
61 2012-01-29T17:01:29 <CIA-45> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> namespaces * 1246:0ad602993005 2.0/MoinMoin/storage/middleware/indexing.py: (log message trimmed)
62 2012-01-29T17:01:29 <CIA-45> indexing middleware: use correct logger, prepare code for fixing name(s) issues
63 2012-01-29T17:01:29 <CIA-45> I changed the workarounds for the current issues related to name(s) values so
64 2012-01-29T17:01:29 <CIA-45> that they log warnings when they are used. So we do not hide the issues, but
65 2012-01-29T17:01:29 <CIA-45> are aware that some code still needs fixing. I also streamlined the name(s)
66 2012-01-29T17:01:30 <CIA-45> properties so they work in the same way at both places.
67 2012-01-29T17:01:31 <CIA-45> If one see some Workaround warning and wants to work on it, one can just
68 2012-01-29T17:10:19 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk: done
69 2012-01-29T17:12:24 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Do you have more of a hint on where left/center/right/justify may be used? justify is not in python or javascript code. justify and center are not mentioned in 1.9 helpon docs (center is used in tables but not as a class)
70 2012-01-29T17:13:36 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it is a class, so it can be used in image transclusions or for parser blocks
71 2012-01-29T17:13:50 <ThomasWaldmann> same as red/green/blue basically
72 2012-01-29T17:14:59 <ThomasWaldmann> (IIRC, i didn't use it myself)
73 2012-01-29T17:16:13 <RogerHaase> OK, will add it back and make a note for myself to add these to docs somewhere.
74 2012-01-29T17:23:50 *** sudo_dirk2
75 2012-01-29T17:30:54 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: is there a need for more than one path to a virtual environment? that was the reason why i reduced it to one path only like moin_code.
76 2012-01-29T17:36:50 <ThomasWaldmann> you never know what users want to do
77 2012-01-29T17:37:52 <ThomasWaldmann> and i think you can trust that graham did it for some reason
78 2012-01-29T17:48:04 <sudo_dirk2> shouldn't we change moin_code as well? when we do this.
79 2012-01-29T18:05:23 <ThomasWaldmann> well, not sure if we should require usage of virtualenv
80 2012-01-29T18:06:38 <ThomasWaldmann> so i'ld for now suggest to keep moin_code (None and it does no harm) and also make the virtualenv code only run if it is configured
81 2012-01-29T18:06:43 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk2: ^^
82 2012-01-29T18:07:32 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: is a virt_envs = [] enough?
83 2012-01-29T18:12:30 *** sudo_dirk2
84 2012-01-29T18:16:30 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk: enough for what?
85 2012-01-29T18:37:28 *** sudo_dirk
86 2012-01-29T18:46:26 <ThomasWaldmann> jek: btw, in case SOC happens again this year, we can retry the flatland/jinja widgets stuff
87 2012-01-29T18:46:44 <jek> i'd be happy to mentor for that
88 2012-01-29T18:51:08 <ThomasWaldmann> jek: ok, great, I'll put you into Mentorgroup for that then
89 2012-01-29T18:58:59 *** sudo_dirk
90 2012-01-29T19:01:30 *** greg_f
91 2012-01-29T19:02:36 <CIA-45> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> namespaces * 1247:c884f6933929 2.0/MoinMoin/storage/middleware/indexing.py:
92 2012-01-29T19:02:36 <CIA-45> indexing middleware: create dummy metadata for non-existing items to avoid issues in name(s) properties
93 2012-01-29T19:02:36 <CIA-45> if we looked up a specific item name (using name_exact query), we put that name
94 2012-01-29T19:02:36 <CIA-45> into the NAME list, otherwise we have an empty NAME list.
95 2012-01-29T19:02:36 <CIA-45> for debugging, I also changed the exception type to TypeError in the workaround code.
96 2012-01-29T19:13:10 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, prefix (namespace + item name) based acls was a nice idea, but as soon as the name goes away, there is an issue...
97 2012-01-29T19:14:53 <ThomasWaldmann> similar issue of same item has multiple names, it might get different acls due to that. that might be wanted in some cases, but can be a problem in others.
98 2012-01-29T19:15:01 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ^^
99 2012-01-29T19:16:46 <ThomasWaldmann> so the only idea for avoiding that is to only use prefixes that are just namespaces and don't include an item name prefix
100 2012-01-29T19:17:39 <ronny> oO
101 2012-01-29T19:18:11 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: it's in namespaces branch :) weird stuff, but powerful :)
102 2012-01-29T19:18:42 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: i wont think about it till im done with the thesis
103 2012-01-29T19:19:00 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, right. when is the deadline?
104 2012-01-29T19:24:26 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: should be match/april
105 2012-01-29T20:11:00 *** Trip_
106 2012-01-29T20:11:40 *** MattMaker
107 2012-01-29T20:18:13 *** sudo_dirk
108 2012-01-29T20:34:22 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I updated http://codereview.appspot.com/5574064 -- Firefox has supported box-shadow and border-radius since version 4
109 2012-01-29T20:46:34 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i don't think we need to support < 4. how about the webkit stuff?
110 2012-01-29T20:48:14 <RogerHaase> I read Chrome has support since 7.0+
111 2012-01-29T20:48:33 <RogerHaase> Safari since 5.1.1
112 2012-01-29T20:49:05 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, guess we can live without the special stuff then
113 2012-01-29T20:49:56 <RogerHaase> Yes, even IE9 works :-)
114 2012-01-29T20:56:21 <RogerHaase> bbl
115 2012-01-29T21:18:07 *** sudo_dirk2
116 2012-01-29T21:18:07 *** sudo_dirk2
117 2012-01-29T21:18:11 *** sudo_dirk
118 2012-01-29T21:28:14 *** sudo_dirk
119 2012-01-29T21:28:58 *** sudo_dirk2
120 2012-01-29T21:31:46 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: i did the changes in moin.wsgi...
121 2012-01-29T21:34:55 *** Trip_
122 2012-01-29T21:36:45 *** MattMaker
123 2012-01-29T21:39:42 *** MattMaker
124 2012-01-29T21:39:59 *** MattMaker
125 2012-01-29T21:42:29 *** sudo_dirk2
126 2012-01-29T21:46:35 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk: done
127 2012-01-29T21:54:48 *** sudo_dirk2
128 2012-01-29T21:57:14 *** sudo_dirk2
129 2012-01-29T21:57:43 *** dirk_
130 2012-01-29T22:02:33 *** humbu
131 2012-01-29T22:09:59 <humbu> Hello, how can I use ajax in a python macro (moin1.9.3)
132 2012-01-29T22:15:40 <ThomasWaldmann> humbu: there is no ready-to-use ajax infrastructure in 1.9 (and there never will be)
133 2012-01-29T22:16:13 <ThomasWaldmann> so if you need something like that, you have to implement it as an extension (like sending requests to an action)
134 2012-01-29T22:16:36 <humbu> will it be in moin2 ?
135 2012-01-29T22:17:25 <ThomasWaldmann> there is some ajax-stuff in moin2
136 2012-01-29T22:20:46 <humbu> this means yes or no?
137 2012-01-29T22:24:23 <ThomasWaldmann> there is means yes
138 2012-01-29T22:24:58 <ThomasWaldmann> but i have to admit that I suspect that you don't know exactly what ajax means
139 2012-01-29T22:25:36 <ThomasWaldmann> you always need 2 sides for that, the client side doing some specific request and some code on the server side answering that request
140 2012-01-29T22:26:02 <humbu> yes, i mean ther server side
141 2012-01-29T22:26:29 <ThomasWaldmann> you always can do that and you likely often have to do both except if it is some very generic stuff that maybe someone else doing some other ajax stuff has already done
142 2012-01-29T22:29:26 <humbu> yes I only mean to use this for forms
143 2012-01-29T22:30:27 <ThomasWaldmann> iirc the usersettings form does some ajax stuff since recently
144 2012-01-29T22:32:01 *** xorAxAx
145 2012-01-29T22:32:01 *** xorAxAx
146 2012-01-29T22:33:55 <humbu> iirc?
147 2012-01-29T22:34:04 <ThomasWaldmann> google it
148 2012-01-29T22:38:00 <sudo_dirk> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: see my comments in http://codereview.appspot.com/5577071/
149 2012-01-29T22:39:26 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: minor documentation change for css classes used by wiki parsers: http://codereview.appspot.com/5595046/
150 2012-01-29T22:41:32 <sudo_dirk> gn8 everybody :-)
151 2012-01-29T22:42:47 <humbu> ah k, so is it easily possible to put the javascript in the form-template in my macro and interakt with this makro?
152 2012-01-29T22:43:49 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: good night
153 2012-01-29T22:44:01 <ThomasWaldmann> humbu: if you want to do forms in moin2, read about flatland
154 2012-01-29T22:44:11 <humbu> ok thank you
155 2012-01-29T22:44:34 <ThomasWaldmann> gn sudo_dirk (review is done)
156 2012-01-29T22:46:51 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: good. but one can not only use them with the wiki parser, but anywhere where one can give a class.
157 2012-01-29T22:56:38 *** humbu
158 2012-01-29T23:00:20 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Are there any places to specify classes other than the class, rowclass, and tableclass of tables? These are not mentioned in 2.0 docs and 1.9 docs do not show any class name examples.
159 2012-01-29T23:01:44 <ThomasWaldmann> well, there are still a lot of docs missing completely
160 2012-01-29T23:02:48 <RogerHaase> ok, will leave the table classes for another day...
161 2012-01-29T23:10:07 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I pushed those 2 changes to https://bitbucket.org/RogerHaase/moin-2.0-temp
162 2012-01-29T23:10:37 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
163 2012-01-29T23:14:02 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for cleaning up, I'll pull it asap.
164 2012-01-29T23:15:41 <RogerHaase> gtg
165 2012-01-29T23:15:52 *** RogerHaase
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