1 2012-02-06T00:02:00 *** raignarok
2 2012-02-06T00:02:02 *** raignarok_
3 2012-02-06T00:12:23 *** raignarok_
4 2012-02-06T01:07:45 *** MattMaker
5 2012-02-06T01:13:18 *** raignarok
6 2012-02-06T02:45:41 *** MattMaker
7 2012-02-06T02:50:06 *** ashlurgen
8 2012-02-06T04:00:00 *** sudo_dirk
9 2012-02-06T05:02:26 *** MattMaker
10 2012-02-06T05:32:04 *** MattMaker
11 2012-02-06T05:43:01 *** ashlurgen
12 2012-02-06T06:07:09 *** sudo_dirk
13 2012-02-06T06:40:24 *** MattMaker
14 2012-02-06T07:13:14 *** not-xjjk
15 2012-02-06T07:31:48 <dreimark> moin
16 2012-02-06T07:32:01 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: please have a look on upload paramter to cr
17 2012-02-06T07:32:12 <dreimark> it can make nice diffs
18 2012-02-06T07:32:28 <dreimark> that makes reading better
19 2012-02-06T07:32:48 <dreimark> you have to used the old id for this
20 2012-02-06T08:14:32 <sudo_dirk> good morning.
21 2012-02-06T08:15:52 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: i think i know why mtime had better results for me. i moved the files via commandline to the page (no upload). Then ctime is the time moving the file. mtime the original time.
22 2012-02-06T08:17:53 <dreimark> oh
23 2012-02-06T08:18:09 <dreimark> sudo_dirk: undo?
24 2012-02-06T08:19:19 <dreimark> improving the date read by more than exif afterwards maybe. there are some other standards
25 2012-02-06T08:19:30 <sudo_dirk> dreimark: i think yes. i checked yesterday. and i have no hope that we get the correct date when uploading the file. the used possibly has to add exif :-(
26 2012-02-06T08:19:40 <sudo_dirk> used->user
27 2012-02-06T08:20:53 <dreimark> ok, we have to look with some other progs on those files e.g. eog
28 2012-02-06T08:21:15 <dreimark> if that gets some date info we have to find a pure python lib to do the same
29 2012-02-06T08:21:24 <sudo_dirk> i only know that i wanted to get correct date for my screenshots. i don't rember yesterday that i moved the files to the page by hand.
30 2012-02-06T08:21:49 <dreimark> make a cs given the cs:hex number and the reason for the revert
31 2012-02-06T08:22:09 <dreimark> and a pull request
32 2012-02-06T08:24:19 <sudo_dirk> i will have a look how to to an cs this evening. i have to go to work first ;-)
33 2012-02-06T08:24:36 <sudo_dirk> what is eog?
34 2012-02-06T08:24:38 <dreimark> ok
35 2012-02-06T08:25:00 <dreimark> eog "eye of gnome" the prefered gnome program to look at images
36 2012-02-06T08:29:04 <sudo_dirk> ok, bbl.
37 2012-02-06T09:41:11 *** qxcv
38 2012-02-06T10:09:29 *** greg_f
39 2012-02-06T12:38:34 *** kanha
40 2012-02-06T13:29:25 *** qxcv
41 2012-02-06T13:34:36 *** dave_largo
42 2012-02-06T14:16:40 *** kanha
43 2012-02-06T15:13:21 *** RogerHaase
44 2012-02-06T15:49:14 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: eSyr: dreimark: shall we make the http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2012/InitialProjectIdeas page r/w for "Known" and r for "All" users?
45 2012-02-06T15:50:44 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: why not?
46 2012-02-06T15:50:50 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: (at least, for Known)
47 2012-02-06T15:52:33 <ThomasWaldmann> well, we don't know yet whether we participate. otoh, some ideas need more preparation before they can be projects.
48 2012-02-06T15:55:33 <ThomasWaldmann> brb
49 2012-02-06T17:50:40 *** MattMaker
50 2012-02-06T18:25:54 *** greg_f
51 2012-02-06T18:33:16 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: may be add the TrustedEditorGroup instead of Known
52 2012-02-06T19:44:18 *** brunomartin
53 2012-02-06T19:46:35 *** raignarok
54 2012-02-06T19:47:24 <brunomartin> moin
55 2012-02-06T19:58:15 *** RogerHaase
56 2012-02-06T20:11:53 <ThomasWaldmann> hi brunomartin
57 2012-02-06T20:18:23 <brunomartin> Hi ThomasWaldmann
58 2012-02-06T20:19:49 <brunomartin> I saw your email some days ago... Asa answered it... i think soon we will back to work in namespace branch...
59 2012-02-06T20:19:52 <brunomartin> :-)
60 2012-02-06T20:20:38 *** yufra
61 2012-02-06T20:21:35 *** yufra
62 2012-02-06T20:31:32 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: yup, some more devs there would be welcome
63 2012-02-06T20:45:50 *** sudo_dirk2
64 2012-02-06T20:46:04 <sudo_dirk2> moin all
65 2012-02-06T20:58:47 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: chatting here would be easier than by email :)
66 2012-02-06T20:59:18 <brunomartin> yeah....
67 2012-02-06T20:59:36 <brunomartin> we have a problem here today..
68 2012-02-06T20:59:37 * ThomasWaldmann is wondering that/why you run out of files...
69 2012-02-06T21:01:05 <brunomartin> maybe the indexing::Meta::__iter__
70 2012-02-06T21:01:33 <ThomasWaldmann> in cpython having that _ as an open file should be no problem
71 2012-02-06T21:02:04 <brunomartin> do we need do explicit close the whoosh searcher?
72 2012-02-06T21:02:05 <ThomasWaldmann> as soon as the method returns, the file object should get disposed (and closed)
73 2012-02-06T21:02:35 <ThomasWaldmann> Recently, I always try to use "with" when dealing with such stuff
74 2012-02-06T21:02:44 <ThomasWaldmann> that includes whoosh searchers
75 2012-02-06T21:03:19 <ThomasWaldmann> "with" is quite nice to make sure that stuff gets closed no matter what
76 2012-02-06T21:05:50 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: you are running normal (c)python, right?
77 2012-02-06T21:06:48 <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/mchaput/whoosh/issue/207/with-patch-pypy-and-whoosh-too-many-open this is the whoosh issue I had with pypy (NOT with cpython)
78 2012-02-06T21:08:44 <brunomartin> we are using cpython...
79 2012-02-06T21:08:50 <brunomartin> apache+wsgi
80 2012-02-06T21:09:54 <ThomasWaldmann> do you somehow create big amounts of revisions at the same time?
81 2012-02-06T21:10:09 <ThomasWaldmann> (i mean revision objects, not on disk)
82 2012-02-06T21:10:35 <brunomartin> I don't think so...
83 2012-02-06T21:11:15 <brunomartin> the problem occurred when 100 users has logged at same time, but most for reading...
84 2012-02-06T21:11:58 <brunomartin> there is some whoosh search we do in each page, like show the subitems....
85 2012-02-06T21:13:35 <brunomartin> I'm trying to reproduce it locally...
86 2012-02-06T21:13:45 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, that will access quite some stuff. a bit less without acl checks, but still.
87 2012-02-06T21:14:16 <ThomasWaldmann> how many files did it use when running out of files?
88 2012-02-06T21:14:59 <ThomasWaldmann> and did you see a lsof?
89 2012-02-06T21:15:17 <brunomartin> the machine limit was set to 1million... :-|
90 2012-02-06T21:15:27 <ThomasWaldmann> uhoh
91 2012-02-06T21:15:40 <brunomartin> nope... we sow the problem some hours after it occurs...
92 2012-02-06T21:15:43 <ThomasWaldmann> machine or moin process?
93 2012-02-06T21:15:54 <ThomasWaldmann> usually a process gets 1024 or so
94 2012-02-06T21:16:18 <brunomartin> good question.. I think its the machine...
95 2012-02-06T21:16:47 <brunomartin> we set five process to moin in wsgi script... and 10 threads... do you think it is to low?
96 2012-02-06T21:16:56 <brunomartin> *too
97 2012-02-06T21:17:23 <ThomasWaldmann> hard to say, depends on how many requests/s you get and how long they usually take
98 2012-02-06T21:20:09 <ThomasWaldmann> (but for my internet wikis, I usually do not have more than what you used)
99 2012-02-06T21:21:34 <brunomartin> hum... ok...
100 2012-02-06T21:22:19 <brunomartin> well, I have a meeting now.... I will try to do some benchmark and reproduce it locally later...
101 2012-02-06T21:24:09 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, good luck :)
102 2012-02-06T21:25:27 <brunomartin> thanks... ;-)
103 2012-02-06T21:31:25 <sudo_dirk2> i want to undo the last change in bitbucket. do i have to do hg revert .... or hg rollback (which is not recommended)
104 2012-02-06T21:34:42 <sudo_dirk2> hg revert -r revisionnumber ?= hg rollback
105 2012-02-06T21:35:01 <sudo_dirk2> with revisionnumber = last_revision
106 2012-02-06T21:42:41 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/5577071/ (ignore wikiconfig.py and __ini__.py i did some tests there. i will commit moin2.wsgi only
107 2012-02-06T21:42:49 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk2: if noone else has pulled that stuff yet, you can carefully try admin -> strip changeset
108 2012-02-06T21:43:42 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark pulled it. i want to revert or rollback and do a pull request again
109 2012-02-06T21:45:41 <ThomasWaldmann> you can / should not touch other people already have
110 2012-02-06T21:46:42 <sudo_dirk2> thats what dreimark asked for
111 2012-02-06T21:47:33 <sudo_dirk2> or better we spoke about the ctime mtime and we both think to revert before there is a real sulution
112 2012-02-06T21:49:59 <dreimark> sudo_dirk2: make a commit with that cs reverted
113 2012-02-06T21:51:00 <dreimark> you need hg reert -r
114 2012-02-06T21:51:15 <dreimark> revert only the changes not everything
115 2012-02-06T21:51:48 <sudo_dirk2> just the last commit
116 2012-02-06T21:51:53 <sudo_dirk2> correct?
117 2012-02-06T21:52:03 <dreimark> yes
118 2012-02-06T21:52:16 <sudo_dirk2> ok, i'll do
119 2012-02-06T21:52:51 *** RogerHaase
120 2012-02-06T21:56:11 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk2: review done
121 2012-02-06T22:00:28 <sudo_dirk2> dreimark: pull request reverting non-exif is done.
122 2012-02-06T22:00:59 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: sry, possibly i lost the last change by setting up new linux on my pc ;-)
123 2012-02-06T22:01:26 <sudo_dirk2> just the set was lost...
124 2012-02-06T22:07:48 <dreimark> sudo_dirk2: can you add the cs:hexnumber to the comment
125 2012-02-06T22:08:08 <dreimark> because it must not be linear
126 2012-02-06T22:08:51 <dreimark> usually that is better than telling "revert last commit"
127 2012-02-06T22:09:12 <dreimark> because that "can" be different in others repos
128 2012-02-06T22:09:55 <dreimark> sudo_dirk2: i take this one as it is but next time do it as i told twice
129 2012-02-06T22:11:02 <sudo_dirk2> dreimark: i didn't understand that you want it in the comment.
130 2012-02-06T22:12:44 <CIA-64> sudo_dirk<d.alders@arcor.de> default * 574:7520756bc7f9 extensions/data/plugin/macro/Image.py: revert last commit: date issue of non-exif images
131 2012-02-06T22:13:29 <dreimark> sudo_dirk2: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/log?rev=revert thats how we usually write it
132 2012-02-06T22:14:42 <dreimark> I could have been that someone has already worked on something else. committed but not pushed
133 2012-02-06T22:14:59 <dreimark> then in his repo your commit isn't the last one
134 2012-02-06T22:15:15 <dreimark> s/I/It/
135 2012-02-06T22:15:55 <sudo_dirk2> yep, got it. i think it'll take some time to get all the stuff. so most of it is new for me ;-)
136 2012-02-06T22:16:25 <dreimark> if you one have that workflow you likly don't handle it different in any project
137 2012-02-06T22:16:33 <dreimark> s/one/once/
138 2012-02-06T22:18:23 <sudo_dirk2> so in our company we don't have a stable handling of revision control, yet. but most of us see the need of that.
139 2012-02-06T22:19:04 *** dave_largo
140 2012-02-06T22:21:55 <ThomasWaldmann> brunomartin: btw, -11 degrees celsius outside and going down...
141 2012-02-06T22:22:23 <brunomartin> oh.... :-o
142 2012-02-06T22:22:54 <brunomartin> we have +34 here... and going up! :-D
143 2012-02-06T22:23:08 <ThomasWaldmann> i guessed so :)
144 2012-02-06T22:24:36 <sudo_dirk2> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/5577071 if the comment is not ok, i need some information what you expect there. ;-)
145 2012-02-06T22:26:22 <sudo_dirk2> bbl
146 2012-02-06T22:26:25 *** sudo_dirk2
147 2012-02-06T22:28:39 <ThomasWaldmann> sudo_dirk: you don't need the site-packages "for" a virtual env, the site-packages is provided BY the virtual env for the code that lives in it
148 2012-02-06T23:35:53 *** RogerHaase
149 2012-02-06T23:44:54 <sudo_dirk> ThomasWaldmann: ok.
150 2012-02-06T23:45:44 * ThomasWaldmann tries to implant validation code
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