1 2012-03-25T00:07:52 *** dwcramer
2 2012-03-25T00:53:15 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1310:e6a5cb1b2d57 2.0/setup.py: setup.py: use Flask-Script>=0.3.3, it has the stuff we need in 0.3.3 (multi-thread/process server options)
3 2012-03-25T01:04:08 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1311:bc7d15a2a06c 2.0/setup.py: setup.py: add foobar theme, cosmetic changes
4 2012-03-25T01:27:17 *** TheSheep_
5 2012-03-25T01:27:48 *** TheSheep
6 2012-03-25T01:27:48 *** TheSheep
7 2012-03-25T01:54:24 *** dwcramer
8 2012-03-25T03:08:19 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1312:1a2c41efc382 2.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): sqla store: use same method as sqlite store to append ::tablename, fix tests/docs
9 2012-03-25T03:57:59 *** yufra_
10 2012-03-25T05:20:09 *** dwcramer
11 2012-03-25T05:48:45 *** breton
12 2012-03-25T07:21:01 *** kanha
13 2012-03-25T07:25:30 <kanha> moin
14 2012-03-25T07:30:31 *** davinder
15 2012-03-25T07:30:47 <davinder> in moin 2
16 2012-03-25T07:30:55 <davinder> have have changed the theme
17 2012-03-25T07:31:05 <davinder> from modernized
18 2012-03-25T07:31:08 <davinder> to foo
19 2012-03-25T07:31:32 <davinder> but i have no option to revert back in foo theme to modern
20 2012-03-25T07:31:38 <davinder> ?
21 2012-03-25T07:46:50 <kanha> waldi:esyr:one of the idea is to implement smiley converter but code for smiley converter is already in converter package so what exactly do you want?
22 2012-03-25T07:51:20 <kanha> waldi:is that idea outdated?
23 2012-03-25T08:11:37 *** kanha
24 2012-03-25T08:23:05 *** yufra_
25 2012-03-25T08:26:10 *** yufra_
26 2012-03-25T08:59:11 *** kanha
27 2012-03-25T08:59:45 *** kanha_
28 2012-03-25T09:05:48 *** ayrus12
29 2012-03-25T09:25:50 *** ayrus12
30 2012-03-25T09:26:13 *** yufra_
31 2012-03-25T10:07:31 *** bretonium
32 2012-03-25T10:11:54 <bretonium> I wonder what to do, when there are like 4 branches, which need to be merged
33 2012-03-25T10:19:15 <bretonium> and should we lock article if there are unmerged branches?
34 2012-03-25T10:25:07 *** bretonium
35 2012-03-25T10:26:20 *** bretonium
36 2012-03-25T10:27:24 <bretonium> I'll post my thoughts in that in 1.5h
37 2012-03-25T10:27:32 <bretonium> *on that
38 2012-03-25T10:27:34 *** bretonium
39 2012-03-25T10:37:03 *** davinder
40 2012-03-25T12:14:33 *** xiaq
41 2012-03-25T12:39:12 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Just posted an updated patch including a TODO comment on the moin 2.0 issue tracker, plz checkout :)
42 2012-03-25T12:39:19 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: I'll work on my proposal next...
43 2012-03-25T12:42:40 <xiaq> I'm interested in the CSRF task, but the wiki page didn't list interested mentors
44 2012-03-25T12:58:24 *** bretonium
45 2012-03-25T13:07:25 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
46 2012-03-25T13:18:02 <bretonium> something like this for merging maybe? http://ompldr.org/vZDUydg/scr53.jpeg.
47 2012-03-25T13:22:10 <ThomasWaldmann> are the text fields editable?
48 2012-03-25T13:23:04 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Hi :) I'm interested in the CSRF task
49 2012-03-25T13:23:34 <bretonium> those with different content - yes. Those with the same content - don't know, but I think that yes - there can be some need the context maybe.
50 2012-03-25T13:24:41 <bretonium> when there are > 2 branches, I don't see any way to show them, but to place forms one after another with horizontal scrolling
51 2012-03-25T13:24:56 <bretonium> with pages horizontal scrolling
52 2012-03-25T13:27:06 <xiaq> CSRF is not on the InitialProjectIdeas list but on EasyToDo... Does that mean there is no mentors interested?
53 2012-03-25T13:30:57 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: csrf is important and there are already some 3rd party solutions for it, but i don't know if now is the right time for it while we are doing heavy changes to UI (hopefully)
54 2012-03-25T13:31:32 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: So it's not a good SoC proposal
55 2012-03-25T13:31:52 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: I think I can do the issue tracker task
56 2012-03-25T13:32:00 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Already added myself to interested students list
57 2012-03-25T13:32:31 <ThomasWaldmann> problem is if changes are conflicting, it is hard to merge
58 2012-03-25T13:33:25 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: I worked on Roundup issue tracker during my winter vacation and had several patches accepted
59 2012-03-25T13:33:27 <ThomasWaldmann> issue tracker is interesting, needs lot of thinking and also UI work
60 2012-03-25T13:34:05 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ It's the "official" Python (used by python.org) issue tracker
61 2012-03-25T13:34:15 <ThomasWaldmann> link to your work in your proposal
62 2012-03-25T13:35:49 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Got it. Is there anything I should do before submitting the application?
63 2012-03-25T13:36:27 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Oh... my by proposal were you referring to the student application?
64 2012-03-25T13:36:32 <xiaq> s/my/and/
65 2012-03-25T13:37:11 <ThomasWaldmann> well, use the application template, and make sure you have good content for it :D
66 2012-03-25T13:37:46 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, i meant your soc application
67 2012-03-25T13:39:11 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Excuse me but I couldn't find the application template
68 2012-03-25T13:39:25 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Not on moin wiki...
69 2012-03-25T13:40:08 <ThomasWaldmann> isn't it linked from melange?
70 2012-03-25T13:40:33 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: No, melange only has ideas page and homepage
71 2012-03-25T13:40:46 * ThomasWaldmann at least gave it url when filling out one of these google forms...
72 2012-03-25T13:41:14 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: nope, nothing there.
73 2012-03-25T13:41:25 <xiaq> Seems they forgot it... care to put the link on http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2012 ?
74 2012-03-25T13:42:03 <ThomasWaldmann> i added a link to the ideas page
75 2012-03-25T13:43:53 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Is student application supposed to be public?
76 2012-03-25T13:44:48 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to put the application all on the personal homepage
77 2012-03-25T13:46:33 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: students can request a acl protected page so only mentor can see it
78 2012-03-25T13:47:02 <ThomasWaldmann> if you just publish it, it might interfere with other students applications, of course :)
79 2012-03-25T13:48:37 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: So I request to ACL http://moinmo.in/CheerXiao/SocApplication
80 2012-03-25T13:50:05 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
81 2012-03-25T13:51:14 <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: try now
82 2012-03-25T13:51:54 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Looks good, thx
83 2012-03-25T14:03:19 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: <ns1:include ns1:href="wiki.local:a" ns1:xpointer="xmlns(page=http://moinmo.in/namespaces/page) page:include(editlink(True))"/>
84 2012-03-25T14:03:44 <ThomasWaldmann> is that how <<Include(a,editlink)>> should look like on dom level?
85 2012-03-25T14:08:48 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: ok, if these are editable textareas, yes, that could work. You can also have a look at how moin 1.x did it, which was simpler on the UI but also did the job.
86 2012-03-25T14:11:41 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: ---- /!\ '''Edit conflict - other version:''' ----
87 2012-03-25T14:12:33 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: and you don't want to leave it like that, right?
88 2012-03-25T14:13:06 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it's a bit a matter of taste :)
89 2012-03-25T14:13:45 <ThomasWaldmann> for source code merging, i rather take the stuff merged into 1 file with conflict markers than use a merge tool
90 2012-03-25T14:14:14 <ThomasWaldmann> but that might be a personal preference
91 2012-03-25T14:14:15 <bretonium> like in git or maybe hg, right
92 2012-03-25T14:14:21 <ThomasWaldmann> <<<<
93 2012-03-25T14:14:23 <ThomasWaldmann> ....
94 2012-03-25T14:14:28 <ThomasWaldmann> >>>>
95 2012-03-25T14:15:48 <ThomasWaldmann> i think that is easier maybe for copy & paste and editing than having to change between lots of different editable areas.
96 2012-03-25T14:16:28 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: looks weird, i don't remember specifying this
97 2012-03-25T14:17:08 <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/170/include-macro-with-editlink-or-titlesonly
98 2012-03-25T14:17:47 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: ^ the patch slightly improves things, it is not crashing any more. but of course it should be fixed in a correct way...
99 2012-03-25T14:19:38 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: maybe it makes sense to first have a simple merge tool. coding a great web gui for a merge tool could take quite some time (and maybe already exists).
100 2012-03-25T14:19:45 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: there are no test cases for this?
101 2012-03-25T14:19:59 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: like the one in moin1?
102 2012-03-25T14:20:27 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: yes. you will still have to do enough ui work :)
103 2012-03-25T14:20:55 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: we have currently no failing tests.
104 2012-03-25T14:21:28 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, otoh, i might not have lxml installed....
105 2012-03-25T14:22:31 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: mercurial has a setting where the user can configure his favorite merge tool
106 2012-03-25T14:49:38 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: the existing tests check for different things then the tests i wrote for this
107 2012-03-25T14:53:42 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it was failing :D
108 2012-03-25T14:56:06 *** xiaq
109 2012-03-25T15:20:19 *** xiaq
110 2012-03-25T15:44:04 *** xiaq
111 2012-03-25T15:44:30 *** xiaq
112 2012-03-25T15:45:51 *** smagnin
113 2012-03-25T15:54:26 *** xiaq
114 2012-03-25T15:55:08 *** xiaq
115 2012-03-25T15:57:11 *** xiaq
116 2012-03-25T15:58:51 *** xiaq
117 2012-03-25T16:14:19 *** DasIch_
118 2012-03-25T16:17:36 *** DasIch
119 2012-03-25T16:17:37 *** DasIch_
120 2012-03-25T16:30:21 *** xiaq
121 2012-03-25T16:31:18 *** xiaq
122 2012-03-25T16:36:35 *** xiaq
123 2012-03-25T16:41:41 *** xiaq
124 2012-03-25T16:42:17 *** xiaq
125 2012-03-25T16:46:00 *** RogerHaase
126 2012-03-25T16:47:33 *** dwcramer
127 2012-03-25T17:07:54 *** davinder
128 2012-03-25T17:35:01 *** smagnin
129 2012-03-25T17:41:32 *** dwcramer
130 2012-03-25T17:49:14 <DasIch> I've implemented that Twitter macro I've been working on and I've tried to conform with the existing coding style, could someone check if I've made any major mistakes? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/571037/
131 2012-03-25T17:49:38 <DasIch> obviously I still need to add tests and documentation
132 2012-03-25T17:52:36 *** dwcramer
133 2012-03-25T17:53:15 <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: can you use codereview.appspot.com please?
134 2012-03-25T17:53:24 <DasIch> ThomasWaldmann: sure
135 2012-03-25T17:59:43 <DasIch> here it is http://codereview.appspot.com/5907054/
136 2012-03-25T17:59:49 <DasIch> I hope I did that correctly
137 2012-03-25T18:05:31 *** dwcramer
138 2012-03-25T18:15:47 <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: review done
139 2012-03-25T18:16:19 <ThomasWaldmann> (i didn't run the code nor look at the moin 1.x twitter macro)
140 2012-03-25T18:17:28 *** davinder
141 2012-03-25T18:35:56 <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: that requests stuff, is it threadsafe?
142 2012-03-25T18:37:23 <DasIch> ThomasWaldmann: I'm don't know whether the session stuff is but I would assume my usage of it is
143 2012-03-25T18:38:26 <ThomasWaldmann> i am asking because we maybe have urllib threading issues at another place in moin2 still, so if requests would solve that...
144 2012-03-25T18:38:37 *** yufra_
145 2012-03-25T18:40:43 <DasIch> ThomasWaldmann: I'd have to check or talk to kennethreitz about that
146 2012-03-25T18:41:26 *** jaiditya
147 2012-03-25T18:43:00 * ThomasWaldmann just doesn't want new dependencies without good reason. but if there is one ...
148 2012-03-25T18:52:01 *** jaiditya
149 2012-03-25T19:41:35 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: removal of more unused CSS ready for review: http://codereview.appspot.com/5901048/ I used CSS Usage plugin as a tool: http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/HowToRemoveUnusedCss
150 2012-03-25T19:46:27 *** dwcramer
151 2012-03-25T19:47:46 <ThomasWaldmann> hi RogerHaase
152 2012-03-25T19:52:51 <RogerHaase> moin:)
153 2012-03-25T20:11:53 <ThomasWaldmann> review done. looks mostly ok, just a few thoughts.
154 2012-03-25T20:32:19 <dreimark> re
155 2012-03-25T20:32:38 <dreimark> can one explain the edit conflict on http://moinmo.in/RecentChanges for the chat log?
156 2012-03-25T20:48:12 *** Trip_
157 2012-03-25T20:48:32 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: because we talked about edit conflicts :)
158 2012-03-25T20:52:17 *** jaiditya
159 2012-03-25T20:52:18 <dreimark> haha
160 2012-03-25T20:52:33 *** MattMaker
161 2012-03-25T20:53:24 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: that one had not a confict marker
162 2012-03-25T20:53:42 <dreimark> so you did it on the server
163 2012-03-25T21:00:31 <ThomasWaldmann> i did nothing on the server
164 2012-03-25T21:02:55 *** jaiditya
165 2012-03-25T21:08:22 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: there is no edit conflict on the page (there is no other edit there)
166 2012-03-25T21:22:59 <ThomasWaldmann> line 86
167 2012-03-25T21:26:51 <dreimark> ahh
168 2012-03-25T21:27:23 <dreimark> that never can be solved
169 2012-03-25T21:55:03 *** Trip_
170 2012-03-25T21:55:19 *** MattMaker
171 2012-03-25T22:05:21 *** MattMaker
172 2012-03-25T22:30:01 *** ayrus12
173 2012-03-25T22:38:50 *** jaiditya
174 2012-03-25T22:49:29 <jaiditya> for SoC purpose is moin-user the correct mailing list ?
175 2012-03-25T22:52:47 <xorAxAx> jaiditya: for which exact matter?
176 2012-03-25T22:53:44 <jaiditya> for proposal disscussions
177 2012-03-25T22:54:20 <xorAxAx> use the wiki
178 2012-03-25T22:55:23 *** bretonium
179 2012-03-25T22:56:01 <jaiditya> i want to post a preliminary proposal, so should i post it on wiki ?
180 2012-03-25T22:58:20 <xorAxAx> yes
181 2012-03-25T22:58:53 <jaiditya> ok. thanks
182 2012-03-25T23:00:45 *** bretonium
183 2012-03-25T23:27:45 *** bretonium
184 2012-03-25T23:38:59 *** MattMaker
185 2012-03-25T23:56:18 <ThomasWaldmann> jaiditya: do you want acls?
186 2012-03-25T23:56:29 *** bretonium
187 2012-03-25T23:58:13 <jaiditya> ThomasWaldmann: yes
188 2012-03-25T23:59:49 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, create your homepage and the soc application page below it (empty) and I'll put acls there
