1 2012-05-26T00:17:27  * ThomasWaldmann still at work :|
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  14 2012-05-26T10:08:58  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann, DasIch: i think you want a new itemtype for the pastebing that groups together revisions of subitems
  15 2012-05-26T10:09:45  <ronny> (else branchable multi-file pastes will basically be an utter pain
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  21 2012-05-26T15:07:36  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: what makes a multi-paste need different mechanisms than normal item/subitem?
  22 2012-05-26T15:08:30  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: revisions of items/subitems are detached, thats not what you want for a consistent multi-file paste
  23 2012-05-26T15:09:01  <ronny> the alternative is to have an item that refers more than one content item, but that is likely to gnerate strange complications
  24 2012-05-26T15:09:09  <ronny> hmm
  25 2012-05-26T15:09:22  <ronny> there is probably more to consider than i know right now tho
  26 2012-05-26T15:10:52  <CIA-146> Eugene Syromyatnikov <evgsyr@gmail.com> default * 5861:b36c75bae437 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: [minor] i18n/strings.py: HelpOnRobots page added to the admin_pages list.
  27 2012-05-26T15:13:29  <ThomasWaldmann> are you thinking of changesets involving multiple files?
  28 2012-05-26T15:14:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny:
  29 2012-05-26T15:15:40  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: they seem required for multi-file pastes
  30 2012-05-26T15:16:05  <eSyr-ng> hmmm, what multifile paste is?
  31 2012-05-26T15:16:20  <ronny> eSyr-ng:  paste that contains more than one file
  32 2012-05-26T15:16:24  <eSyr-ng> (btw, we can use mime multipart in this case, hehe)
  33 2012-05-26T15:16:25  <ronny> like traceback + source
  34 2012-05-26T15:16:40  <eSyr-ng> ah, see.
  35 2012-05-26T15:16:52  <eSyr-ng> (couldn't figure out usecases, thanks)
  36 2012-05-26T15:17:11  <ThomasWaldmann> that
  37 2012-05-26T15:17:15  <ronny> eSyr-ng: also i think multipart seems wrong
  38 2012-05-26T15:17:20  <ThomasWaldmann> oops
  39 2012-05-26T15:17:47  <ronny> rather i think a multifile paste is a good case for transclusions of specific revisions
  40 2012-05-26T15:17:49  <eSyr-ng> ronny: ok, the other solution implement separate object type, like tree objects in git.
  41 2012-05-26T15:18:01  <eSyr-ng> *solution is to
  42 2012-05-26T15:18:05  * ThomasWaldmann stops until i have a bigger kbd
  43 2012-05-26T15:18:16  <ronny> hmm, bbl
  44 2012-05-26T15:19:00  <eSyr-ng> ronny: btw, why multipart is a bad thing?
  45 2012-05-26T15:19:33  <ronny> eSyr-ng: well, then you need to handle multipart, which is foreign to items
  46 2012-05-26T15:19:50  <eSyr-ng> ronny: it's yet another contenttype!
  47 2012-05-26T15:19:54  <ronny> but transclusions of specific revisions seems like something you can pretty much do now, directly and without efford
  48 2012-05-26T15:20:04  <ronny> eSyr-ng: it is a contenttype that constains files
  49 2012-05-26T15:20:12  <ronny> eSyr-ng: so you need all actions for it
  50 2012-05-26T15:20:13  <eSyr-ng> ronny: zip files also.
  51 2012-05-26T15:20:48  <ronny> eSyr-ng: but what you need for the sane multfile paste is practically transclusion of specific revisions
  52 2012-05-26T15:20:58  <ronny> which we already have
  53 2012-05-26T15:21:10  <ronny> it just needs to be managed
  54 2012-05-26T15:21:23  <ronny> then the content can be a mapping of subitem:revision
  55 2012-05-26T15:21:31  <ronny> which is practically a tree
  56 2012-05-26T15:21:31  <eSyr-ng> well, we have to settle usecases.
  57 2012-05-26T15:21:53  <ronny> eSyr-ng: do you work with multfile pastes?
  58 2012-05-26T15:22:15  <eSyr-ng> i thought of multifile pastes as "just throw some stuff, but separate it into multiple files"
  59 2012-05-26T15:22:36  <ronny> thats one way to input them
  60 2012-05-26T15:22:41  <eSyr-ng> (as any other paste, but with some separation)
  61 2012-05-26T15:23:28  <ronny> btw, pastes should always be refered to with the show action
  62 2012-05-26T15:23:30  <eSyr-ng> well, if you want to update files separately, yes, in this case you need some more advanced mechanism.
  63 2012-05-26T15:24:04  <eSyr-ng> so?
  64 2012-05-26T15:24:16  <ronny> eSyr-ng: the mangleing in lodgeit with the ### is good dof initial entry, but for changes its kind of a pain
  65 2012-05-26T15:24:30  <ronny> changing works better when having partial chunks
  66 2012-05-26T15:24:30  <eSyr-ng> i pretend that showing of a multipart is rendering of each part separately.
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  70 2012-05-26T15:50:15  <ThomasWaldmann> i think both multipart and going multi-item changesets would be a bit too much effort just for the sake of multipastes
  71 2012-05-26T15:51:36  <ThomasWaldmann> pastes are mostly a one-time, throw away soon-after thing
  72 2012-05-26T15:54:59  <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: ^^^ about your project
  73 2012-05-26T16:05:23  <ronny> hmm
  74 2012-05-26T16:05:25  <ronny> ok
  75 2012-05-26T16:08:20  <ThomasWaldmann> breton: no diary updates?
  76 2012-05-26T16:10:09  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: no diary updates?
  77 2012-05-26T16:11:42  <ThomasWaldmann> MaikuMori: no diary updates?
  78 2012-05-26T16:12:48  <ThomasWaldmann> (to say it once again: diary has to be done on each work day, use last minutes to summarize what you have done about your project)
  79 2012-05-26T16:20:35  <ThomasWaldmann> breton: left some comment on EP chat
  80 2012-05-26T16:21:17  <ThomasWaldmann> how's progress on "editing some specific revision"?
  81 2012-05-26T17:04:02  <breton> ThomasWaldmann: err, forgot about it. will doo today, sorry.
  82 2012-05-26T17:04:32  <breton> s/oo/o/
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  84 2012-05-26T17:26:42  <ThomasWaldmann> DasIch: lots of new stuff on your EP
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