MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2012-05-27

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   6 2012-05-27T07:12:57  <dreimark> ronny: eSyr-ng we have something similar for the tar items already
   7 2012-05-27T07:13:44  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
   8 2012-05-27T07:14:16  <dreimark> there you have different items together in one item
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  11 2012-05-27T09:50:09  <ronny> dreimark: o, i see
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  14 2012-05-27T12:59:30  <eSyr-ng> dreimark: not precisely, i think, ronny wants collections of precise versions of some items.
  15 2012-05-27T13:00:05  <eSyr-ng> dreimark: or it stores these items inside itself?
  16 2012-05-27T13:04:36  <ronny> eSyr-ng: ThomasWaldmann gave that one already the yagni threatment tho
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  21 2012-05-27T14:07:12  <dreimark> eSyr-ng: no that is different the drawing item has only one meta but a png, svg etc inside
  22 2012-05-27T14:07:24  <dreimark> all together is one revision
  23 2012-05-27T14:08:11  <eSyr-ng> ah, see.
  24 2012-05-27T14:08:30  <eSyr-ng> i think it's not what ronny wants (as i understood).
  25 2012-05-27T14:09:04  <dreimark>  yagni == You Ain't Gonna Need It
  26 2012-05-27T14:09:38  <eSyr-ng> ah.
  27 2012-05-27T14:10:20  <eSyr-ng> should checked unusual work on urbandictionary.
  28 2012-05-27T14:10:36  <eSyr-ng> *should check
  29 2012-05-27T14:10:41  <eSyr-ng> mmm.
  30 2012-05-27T14:11:10  <eSyr-ng> (should have been checked or something, nod sure about proper tense)
  31 2012-05-27T14:11:17  <eSyr-ng> *not
  32 2012-05-27T14:14:02  <dreimark> i googled for it
  33 2012-05-27T14:14:53  <eSyr-ng> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=yagni
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  36 2012-05-27T14:17:17  <dreimark> bookmarked
  37 2012-05-27T14:18:03  <dreimark> much different from the one *zing
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  39 2012-05-27T14:59:37  <dreimark> bbl
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  47 2012-05-27T16:18:30  <progmanos1> Hello, I sent an email to the mailing list offering to help writing the code to convert fom Confluence to MoinMoin
  48 2012-05-27T16:28:26  <ThomasWaldmann> hi progmanos1
  49 2012-05-27T16:35:25  <progmanos1> I am reading the current code of the confluence converter
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  51 2012-05-27T17:15:28  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: can you give an url?
  52 2012-05-27T17:16:14  * ThomasWaldmann brb
  53 2012-05-27T18:03:56  <progmanos1> https://gitorious.org/confluence2moinmoin
  54 2012-05-27T18:15:00  <ThomasWaldmann> don't see much stuff there, is that all?
  55 2012-05-27T18:39:11  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1:
  56 2012-05-27T19:25:52  <waldi> we had a project proposal for gsoc last year to do such a converter
  57 2012-05-27T20:20:59  <CIA-146> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5862:5b92be3da023 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/AdvancedSearch.py: work around crash of AdvancedSearch macro rendering caused by non-ascii mimetypes.types_map entries
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  59 2012-05-27T21:53:07  <eSyr-ng> cool bug ^^^
  60 2012-05-27T21:53:58  <ThomasWaldmann> teh joys of unknown encodings :|
  61 2012-05-27T21:55:52  <eSyr-ng> interesting, how many software also became broken with this addition in Fedora.
  62 2012-05-27T21:56:07  <eSyr-ng> Because Fedora 13 is something about 2 years ago.
  63 2012-05-27T22:04:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, you googled for such issues? :)
  64 2012-05-27T22:04:39  * ThomasWaldmann suspected this breaks lots of stuff, but didn't search
  65 2012-05-27T22:05:01  <ThomasWaldmann> and the root cause is of course lack of specification
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  67 2012-05-27T22:43:06  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: what things are most important for me to implement or work on now?
  68 2012-05-27T22:48:43  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: well, as you have nothing yet, i guess you have a wide choice
  69 2012-05-27T22:55:29  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: I want to work on a new item for blogpost and related to it +publish action.
  70 2012-05-27T22:57:45  <eSyr-ng> spy: well, in moin 1.9, if you want non-public draft, you just setup acl accordingly.
  71 2012-05-27T22:58:02  <eSyr-ng> i don't think there is need in special mechanism in moin2.x
  72 2012-05-27T23:01:16  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr-ng: i guess we need ptime primarily for sort order
  73 2012-05-27T23:02:10  <ThomasWaldmann> so that editing a blog entry does not make it a NEW entry, except if you decide so by also updating ptime
  74 2012-05-27T23:04:18  <progmanos1> It seems like someone started on the converter but didn't get very far
  75 2012-05-27T23:04:32  <ThomasWaldmann> as another usage of that, the blog would not show future ptime entries
  76 2012-05-27T23:06:49  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: yes
  77 2012-05-27T23:09:19  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: 151
  78 2012-05-27T23:11:11  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: as I already told previously, the converter could use some moin2 infrastructure
  79 2012-05-27T23:11:56  <ThomasWaldmann> like converting confluence markup to dom-tree (converter does not exist), dom-tree to moinmoin markup (converter does exist)
  80 2012-05-27T23:12:57  <ThomasWaldmann> that's likely cleaner than the usual quick hacks done for wiki conversions
  81 2012-05-27T23:14:31  <ThomasWaldmann> also, moin2 has a read-only fs19 "like moin 1.9 filesystem storage" backend, but it is read-only. maybe it could be extended to be able to also write. would be more useful than doing the same code as part of a quickhack.
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  83 2012-05-27T23:21:13  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: a side effect of going the dom-converter way for confluence markup is that this would NOT be one-time usage throw-away code, but be useful also for the use case "use confluence markup in moin2"
  84 2012-05-27T23:24:28  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: if you'ld like to work on anything moin2-related, i can help you getting started (but I can't help much with writing all the code needed)
  85 2012-05-27T23:28:58  <ThomasWaldmann> (and if you do moin2 stuff, I'ld like it to be in a hg cloned repo, not git, for obvious reasons)
  86 2012-05-27T23:30:56  <progmanos1> Okay.
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  88 2012-05-27T23:33:27  <ThomasWaldmann> progmanos1: btw, did you read all the stuff from the wiki page? http://moinmo.in/ConfluenceConverter
  89 2012-05-27T23:33:44  <ThomasWaldmann> + links
  90 2012-05-27T23:37:45  <progmanos1> Yes. I suppose that the first thing to do is compare features of MoinMoin and Confluence. Then I could implement a converter for the features they share, while marking the any missing features in MoinMoin for later development.
  91 2012-05-27T23:38:04  <progmanos1> marking any*
  92 2012-05-27T23:38:07  <progmanos1> typo
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