1 2012-07-02T00:11:05  * dreimark greats too
   2 2012-07-02T00:13:26  <RogerHaase> you missed http://www.worldsoldestrodeo.com/history.html :)
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   8 2012-07-02T05:58:13  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: updated cr http://codereview.appspot.com/6303091/
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  14 2012-07-02T08:42:20  <dreimark> moin
  15 2012-07-02T08:51:36  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  17 2012-07-02T09:53:06  <MaikuMori> moin
  18 2012-07-02T10:11:07  <dreimark> MaikuMori: how is it going, something to review?
  19 2012-07-02T10:11:42  <dreimark> spy: you missed las meeting
  20 2012-07-02T10:12:48  <dreimark> as noted in your page
  21 2012-07-02T10:13:49  <dreimark> but what was with 27th 28th?
  22 2012-07-02T10:30:29  <MaikuMori> Need to mostly work on EP, I'll get on it in about 5mins.
  23 2012-07-02T11:10:02  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: i would assum xstatic-ckeditor as undistributable. the javascript files are clearly not the prefered form of modification. and it lacks the license
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  25 2012-07-02T11:50:04  <bretonium> a warning for everybody: DO NOT update your python version and DO NOT remove your env directory. There is a set of bugs, which prevent from using moins quickinstall without problems: https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/290 , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679337 , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677801
  26 2012-07-02T11:50:34  <bretonium> *moin's
  27 2012-07-02T11:50:49  * bretonium is a bit blocked by that now, resolving
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  29 2012-07-02T11:53:25  <vedranm> hi
  30 2012-07-02T11:53:27  <bretonium> anybody ever worked with urlparse? Suggestion for non-breaking solution?
  31 2012-07-02T11:53:32  <vedranm> small bug in Opera on Moin 1.9
  32 2012-07-02T11:53:50  <vedranm> double click on content that opens editing fails on pages with Unicode characters in names
  33 2012-07-02T11:54:12  <vedranm> Edit (Text) and Edit (GUI) both work normally
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  38 2012-07-02T11:56:35  <bretonium> the solution to my problem is to use python2.6, not python2.7
  39 2012-07-02T11:58:06  <bretonium> hmm, no, doesn't work for python2.6
  40 2012-07-02T11:58:24  <bretonium> error: invalid command 'compile_catalog'
  41 2012-07-02T11:59:20  <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: dreimark: waldi:
  42 2012-07-02T12:02:15  <bretonium> hmm, it seems, that this error doesn't break anything. "source env/bin/activate; pip install --download-cache=dlc -e ." runs ok after that.
  43 2012-07-02T12:59:53  <dreimark> vedranm: please open an issue on MM Bug page, we can collect ideas/workarounds tehre
  44 2012-07-02T13:00:49  <dreimark> bretonium: have you now trouble or is the new env working
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  46 2012-07-02T13:02:11  <dreimark> waldi: please be more verbose, what is the problem, do we need a license file inside each xstatic package
  47 2012-07-02T13:04:53  <vedranm> dreimark: ok
  48 2012-07-02T13:14:10  <bretonium> dreimark: it's working, but with with python2.6 only
  49 2012-07-02T13:14:44  <bretonium> pip fails with enabled virtualenv && python2.7
  50 2012-07-02T13:16:28  <waldi> dreimark: it needs a clear indication of license. this is usually a verbatim copy of the license text
  51 2012-07-02T13:17:18  <waldi> also it needs source. the javascript files are no source
  52 2012-07-02T13:27:02  <jaiditya> waldi: is it necessary to include the seperate stylesheet of ckeditor ?
  53 2012-07-02T13:27:43  <jaiditya> contents.css
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  57 2012-07-02T13:49:07  <waldi> jaiditya: doesn't look like
  58 2012-07-02T13:50:16  <jaiditya> so better we don't include it.
  59 2012-07-02T13:50:19  <waldi> jaiditya: you can overwrite contentsCss in some sort of config
  60 2012-07-02T13:51:40  <jaiditya> waldi: its simply linked in modify_text_html.html . I am removing it from there
  61 2012-07-02T13:53:28  <waldi> okay
  62 2012-07-02T14:03:36  <dreimark> waldi: do you ask because of the minmized source?
  63 2012-07-02T14:04:12  <dreimark> it is mostly only the stuff one needs and not the example implementation for php
  64 2012-07-02T14:04:17  <dreimark> e.g.
  65 2012-07-02T14:08:27  <ThomasWaldmann> .moin
  66 2012-07-02T14:11:12  <waldi> dreimark: yes. gpl defines source code as "preferred form of the work for making modifications to it". you clearly don't do modifications in this, so it is no source
  67 2012-07-02T14:13:23  <dreimark> gpl says also that it must be dowloadable from some place and we haven't changed something
  68 2012-07-02T14:13:38  <dreimark> it is downloadabl
  69 2012-07-02T14:13:39  <dreimark> e
  70 2012-07-02T14:14:22  <dreimark> bretonium: if you use 2.6 we don't get features into the code which will work only with 2.7.x
  71 2012-07-02T14:16:34  <jaiditya> waldi: dreimark: I am confused over issue https://bitbucket.org/Jaiditya/moin-2.0/issue/23/admin-have-unusable-title
  72 2012-07-02T14:18:33  <dreimark> what is confusing explian
  73 2012-07-02T14:20:45  <jaiditya> as you said title Admin was confusing so  title was changed to More but now another bug has been filed regarding the title
  74 2012-07-02T14:23:48  <dreimark> jaiditya: url
  75 2012-07-02T14:24:32  <jaiditya> http://localhost:8080/%2Badmin/
  76 2012-07-02T14:30:05  <dreimark> jaiditya: i meant the bug report url, but a better word may be just   st misc ?
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  78 2012-07-02T14:30:33  <dreimark> misc
  79 2012-07-02T14:30:57  <jaiditya> https://bitbucket.org/Jaiditya/moin-2.0/issue/23/admin-have-unusable-title
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  81 2012-07-02T14:32:52  <dreimark> jaiditya: it is not all Admin stuff and if More is a bad choice, how ist it with Misc ?
  82 2012-07-02T14:32:52  <jaiditya> waldi:^^
  83 2012-07-02T14:33:54  <jaiditya> Looks good to me. Infact I thought for the same
  84 2012-07-02T14:36:16  <waldi> both more and misc doesn't tell the user anything
  85 2012-07-02T14:36:38  <dreimark> waldi: your suggestion, an othe option is to split it
  86 2012-07-02T14:37:18  <dreimark> waldi: isn't it enough to provide an ul with the full source if we didn't change it
  87 2012-07-02T14:37:37  <dreimark> s/ul/url/
  88 2012-07-02T14:57:55  <waldi> dreimark: you can refer to it with an url. but you are responsible that it remains accessible in this location
  89 2012-07-02T14:58:29  <waldi> also in this case the "source" may be no source at all
  90 2012-07-02T15:07:19  <dreimark> ok
  91 2012-07-02T15:07:54  <dreimark> waldi: what solution do you sugges for more, admin section?
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  93 2012-07-02T15:14:59  <waldi> the config uses "Administration & Docs" is not so wrong
  94 2012-07-02T15:16:15  <dreimark> User Menu did not fit
  95 2012-07-02T15:16:43  <waldi> the application is called admin
  96 2012-07-02T15:17:59  <dreimark> yeah, then we should split it, move non admin stuff into some other place e.g
  97 2012-07-02T15:18:22  <dreimark> user stuff into +user
  98 2012-07-02T15:18:41  <dreimark> or sommething, soon out of battery
  99 2012-07-02T15:20:17  <dreimark> jaiditya: ^^
 100 2012-07-02T15:21:10  <jaiditya> yeah
 101 2012-07-02T15:21:23  <jaiditya> so It should be split
 102 2012-07-02T15:22:15  <dreimark> can those user related things be shown if user goes on settings on a panel?
 103 2012-07-02T15:22:45  <dreimark> or if the user goes to his homepage
 104 2012-07-02T15:22:51  <dreimark> some of it?
 105 2012-07-02T15:23:22  <jaiditya> Username is always there on the left panel
 106 2012-07-02T15:23:57  <jaiditya> and for settings panel I am looking for it
 107 2012-07-02T15:24:07  <dreimark> may be it better fits into +user or something sim
 108 2012-07-02T15:24:28  <dreimark> just show the plan after you have an idea to fix it
 109 2012-07-02T15:24:52  <dreimark> bbl
 110 2012-07-02T15:25:00  <jaiditya> ok
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 112 2012-07-02T15:48:17  <ThomasWaldmann> re
 113 2012-07-02T15:50:07  <dreimark> re
 114 2012-07-02T15:52:35  <ThomasWaldmann> the stuff under "user menu" should be available easily for normal users, same for the docs
 115 2012-07-02T16:04:52  <ThomasWaldmann> and similar the "admin menu" for users having superuser capability
 116 2012-07-02T16:05:04  <ThomasWaldmann> jaiditya: can you split this in some sane way?
 117 2012-07-02T16:09:35  <ThomasWaldmann> (and think how it can be done for modernized while doing that)
 118 2012-07-02T16:17:02  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: btw, for linux packagers, there is a comment in the xstatic __init__.py (BASE_DIR)
 119 2012-07-02T16:18:04  <ThomasWaldmann> for sane linux packaging, a packager would have to remove all files, set BASE_DIR to point to the directory where the distribution offers the files and package xstatic-foo just as a little more than a dummy package that requires the real package
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 121 2012-07-02T17:32:27  <RogerHaase> vedranm: regarding the Opera double-click problem:  did you uncheck the Opera context menu?  http://master19.moinmo.in/HelpOnEditing#Opera_Displays_Context_Menu_on_Double-Click
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 128 2012-07-02T19:33:38  <MaikuMori> ThomasWaldmann: is util.plugins used somewhere?
 129 2012-07-02T19:38:28  <vedranm> RogerHaase: yes
 130 2012-07-02T19:38:38  <vedranm> url generated is wrong
 131 2012-07-02T19:38:52  <vedranm> unicode characters get broken
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 133 2012-07-02T19:53:06  <vedranm> RogerHaase: e.g. Vježba will turn to Vje<square><square>ba
 134 2012-07-02T19:57:12  <MaikuMori> esyr: eSyr-ng: any chance we could discuss plugin system a bit
 135 2012-07-02T20:14:02  <RogerHaase> vedranm:  sorry, I can not help more as I only speak English and dealing with unicode in javascript looks non-trivial.  A guess is the problem starts at line 570 in common.js where the '?action=edit....' string should be converted to unicode if the url in document.location is unicode.
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 146 2012-07-02T22:10:37  <dreimark> re
 147 2012-07-02T22:11:46  <dreimark> MaikuMori: why do you ask?
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 150 2012-07-02T22:33:42  <dreimark> search for it. you find it in macro
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 155 2012-07-02T23:04:07  <vedranm> RogerHaase: well, it works in both Firefox and Chrome, so it could be a bug in Opera
 156 2012-07-02T23:04:33  <vedranm> to be honest, I don't care too much about it since doesn't limit my ability to use Opera with Moin too much
 157 2012-07-02T23:04:40  <vedranm> but if it can be fixed, why not
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