1 2012-07-22T00:01:15  <dreimark> xiaq: AttributeError: 'NullContent' object has no attribute 'ContentForm'
   2 2012-07-22T00:01:23  <dreimark> if I try that patch set ^
   3 2012-07-22T00:02:11  <dreimark> http://dpaste.com/773640/
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   5 2012-07-22T00:05:48  <dreimark> spy_: thats why we have the render method pad
   6 2012-07-22T00:06:20  <dreimark> if there is a solution which fits all aspects
   7 2012-07-22T00:06:33  <dreimark> it should be also used
   8 2012-07-22T00:07:00  <dreimark> ehem the one for the widgets
   9 2012-07-22T00:08:06  <dreimark> http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-flatland-metadata-editor
  10 2012-07-22T00:09:31  <dreimark> gn
  11 2012-07-22T00:09:55  <spy_> gn
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  14 2012-07-22T02:54:24  <breton> ThomasWaldmann: poke me please, when you are available. I am for the next 16h.
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  82 2012-07-22T09:53:22  <xiaq> dreimark: uh oh, i'll look at it
  83 2012-07-22T10:19:09  <dreimark> moin
  84 2012-07-22T10:19:49  <dreimark> xiaq: you have tried it too?
  85 2012-07-22T10:21:08  <xiaq> dreimark: of course :) it doesn't crash on my machine...
  86 2012-07-22T10:21:13  <dreimark> see my comments on the pad too
  87 2012-07-22T10:21:30  <xiaq> dreimark: yeah, reading it
  88 2012-07-22T10:21:34  <dreimark> ok, i have installed a fresh clone
  89 2012-07-22T10:22:34  <dreimark> we will do a bicycle tour today because it
  90 2012-07-22T10:22:46  <dreimark> is sunny today
  91 2012-07-22T10:24:11  <dreimark> I've take the droid but not sure how much time during a break i get
  92 2012-07-22T10:36:59  <dreimark> bbl
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  94 2012-07-22T12:46:05  <ThomasWaldmann> breton: some answers on CR
  95 2012-07-22T12:56:51  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: something like: YYYY-MM-DD( hh(:mm(:ss)?)?)?
  96 2012-07-22T12:57:31  <ThomasWaldmann> (of course using correct regex syntax, placeholders, etc)
  97 2012-07-22T12:59:19  <ThomasWaldmann> and  btw: that wordpress dateformat is way to american
  98 2012-07-22T12:59:22  <ThomasWaldmann> too
  99 2012-07-22T13:00:14  * ThomasWaldmann prefers iso order yyyy mm dd hh mm ss, makes more sense
 100 2012-07-22T13:02:29  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: "Is there a way to assign 'hour' to some value if it is not matched? " -> you can always use matchdict.get('hh', '00') or so.
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 102 2012-07-22T13:11:34  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: yes, but this logic is inside the flatland DateTime(Temporal) class. The question was whether it is possible to do this without creating a new DateTime class.
 103 2012-07-22T13:14:00  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: also look at this: http://discorporate.us/projects/flatland/docs/tip/schema/compound.html  could it be useful for us?
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 106 2012-07-22T13:20:57  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: codereview done
 107 2012-07-22T13:21:12  <ThomasWaldmann> http://codereview.appspot.com/6356070/
 108 2012-07-22T13:23:06  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: how does editing / adding a blogpost work on your demo blog? do i need to log in to get more permissions or how do i get the create/modify ui?
 109 2012-07-22T13:24:52  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: it might be useful if you enable the issue tracker on your bb site
 110 2012-07-22T13:26:48  <ThomasWaldmann> (i mentioned a while ago that clicking on those supertags should maybe rather modify the filter for the blogpost main listing than show some list of tagged itemnames)
 111 2012-07-22T13:27:15  <ThomasWaldmann> such stuff could go into tracker, so we don't forget about it
 112 2012-07-22T13:32:35  <ThomasWaldmann> compound sounds useful, yes
 113 2012-07-22T13:34:38  <ThomasWaldmann> about navibar being not that useful as it is in the blog and replacing it with some rather highlevel navigation: true, but that hl nav should be rather at another place, not directly replace navibar
 114 2012-07-22T13:35:39  <spy_> i remember about supertags, but now I want to quickly get the acceptable metaeditor implementation to continue work on other blog stuff.
 115 2012-07-22T13:37:01  <ThomasWaldmann> did you discuss that with xiaq?
 116 2012-07-22T13:37:40  <spy_> currently there is no any create/modify link, you should directly type +modify
 117 2012-07-22T13:38:25  <ThomasWaldmann> (I just had the idea "navibar == navigate within the current part of the site, either wiki, tickets, or some blog)
 118 2012-07-22T13:39:31  <ThomasWaldmann> not sure if it makes sense, as the blog is somehow a subset of the wiki now, same for tickets
 119 2012-07-22T13:40:52  <spy_> what about itemviews bar on blog/ticket view?
 120 2012-07-22T13:42:16  <ThomasWaldmann> well, for visitors it might be too much clutter, but maybe useful for editors
 121 2012-07-22T13:43:04  <ThomasWaldmann> http://vps.psviderski.name:8080/myblog/Google%20Plus < "myblog" and "Google Plus" in the theme header do not link to these items as usual
 122 2012-07-22T13:45:25  <dreimark> mentioned the same idea with the navibar some days ago
 123 2012-07-22T13:46:35  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, about search field: currently this is the global wiki search, but blog visitors might somehow expect that it searches the blog
 124 2012-07-22T13:55:47  <breton> yyyy-mm-dd hh:ss is also easier to sort
 125 2012-07-22T13:56:03  * breton just came back from the hospital, reading now.
 126 2012-07-22T14:02:46  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: like your idea about the search form, I have created an issue on my tracker not to forget it.
 127 2012-07-22T14:12:06  <ThomasWaldmann> spy_: maybe the placeholders in the search input fields then can just tell "global search" and "blog search"
 128 2012-07-22T14:13:21  <spy_> yeah
 129 2012-07-22T14:20:26  <spy_> soon will fix the theme header links on blog related views
 130 2012-07-22T14:33:17  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: review done http://codereview.appspot.com/6432058/
 131 2012-07-22T14:43:01  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: review done http://codereview.appspot.com/6429043/
 132 2012-07-22T14:54:01  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: do not understand a bit about the current DateTime widget. Do we keep it with the full date format at the moment? And add some 24h example to placeholder, right?
 133 2012-07-22T14:56:56  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, for now this would be the simplest/quickest solution
 134 2012-07-22T14:57:26  <ThomasWaldmann> but in the end, we should not require the user typing in the seconds...
 135 2012-07-22T14:58:00  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: look http://vps.psviderski.name:8080/+modify/myblog/Google%20Plus
 136 2012-07-22T14:59:00  <spy_> ptime placeholder
 137 2012-07-22T15:01:17  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
 138 2012-07-22T15:01:25  <ThomasWaldmann> reads a bit backwards, though :D
 139 2012-07-22T15:02:32  <ThomasWaldmann> but otoh, 2999 is maybe a bit too far in the future
 140 2012-07-22T15:02:58  <ThomasWaldmann> and we do not yet support python 3000
 141 2012-07-22T15:03:44  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: ok :D
 142 2012-07-22T15:07:08  <spy_> 2999 would be a good incentive to strive to go forward.
 143 2012-07-22T15:08:10  <ThomasWaldmann> At 23:31:30 UTC on 13 February 2009, at exactly 23:31:30 (UTC) the decimal representation of Unix time reached 1,234,567,890 seconds.
 144 2012-07-22T15:08:49  <ThomasWaldmann> and it was a friday!!1
 145 2012-07-22T15:10:14  <spy_> wow
 146 2012-07-22T15:10:54  <ThomasWaldmann> At 15:30:08 UTC on Sun, 4 December 292,277,026,596 64-bit versions of the Unix time stamp will cease to work, as it will overflow the largest value that can be held in a signed 64-bit number.
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 154 2012-07-22T17:34:37  <dreimark> re
 155 2012-07-22T17:47:28  <xiaq> dreimark: plz see http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-render-method
 156 2012-07-22T17:55:49  <dreimark> try to reccontect
 157 2012-07-22T18:08:19  * dreimark has often "Lost connection with the EtherPad " currently
 158 2012-07-22T18:09:12  * dreimark thats annoying
 159 2012-07-22T18:11:28  <xiaq> dreimark: uh, are you on mobile?
 160 2012-07-22T18:12:43  <dreimark> xiaq: yes good point with different ACLs
 161 2012-07-22T18:12:57  <dreimark> xiaq: yes, since the last 10 days it worked perfect
 162 2012-07-22T18:13:08  <dreimark> -since
 163 2012-07-22T18:13:19  <dreimark> just now I have problems.
 164 2012-07-22T18:13:35  <dreimark> the hotel also has wifi but not in our room
 165 2012-07-22T18:15:00  <dreimark> because IRC has not this connection issue (me is sitting on a X201)
 166 2012-07-22T18:15:26  <dreimark> I think it is something between me and osuosl.org/
 167 2012-07-22T18:27:45  <dreimark> xiaq: 209
 168 2012-07-22T18:52:49  <dreimark> xiaq: I have to get some dinner
 169 2012-07-22T18:53:04  <dreimark> they close restaruants in 1h
 170 2012-07-22T18:53:05  * xiaq needs to go to bed :)
 171 2012-07-22T18:53:10  <dreimark> gn
 172 2012-07-22T18:53:12  <xiaq> gn :)
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 175 2012-07-22T21:00:03  <CIA-54> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5867:9fd0e9e1b4a5 1.9/MoinMoin/search/builtin.py: add more missing attributes to FakeRequest
 176 2012-07-22T21:00:04  <CIA-54> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5868:fc11712e0df0 1.9/MoinMoin/search/builtin.py: simplify FakeRequest setup
 177 2012-07-22T21:09:20  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: fix for #29 Transcluded csv page is not wrapped with object overlay:  http://codereview.appspot.com/6427059/
 178 2012-07-22T21:14:54  <ThomasWaldmann> hi roger
 179 2012-07-22T21:15:40  <RogerHaase> moin :)
 180 2012-07-22T21:16:57  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, yes, that would avoid the issue, but somehow i feel this is not the correct fix
 181 2012-07-22T21:17:30  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe it should not be a bare table, but wrapped in some container. page or page-part or so?
 182 2012-07-22T21:23:38  <RogerHaase> you think it is better to change text_csv_in.py wrap the table in  page?
 183 2012-07-22T21:24:09  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, in something. maybe page.
 184 2012-07-22T21:24:48  <RogerHaase> page would be consistent with all others.  will give that a try
 185 2012-07-22T21:32:38  <ThomasWaldmann> that's a very widespread issue, not just csv
 186 2012-07-22T21:41:43  <ThomasWaldmann> for most markups, page > body > ... is used
 187 2012-07-22T21:42:10  <ThomasWaldmann> but there are some other converterts returning "a" or "table" or ...
 188 2012-07-22T21:46:21  <RogerHaase> I don't remember any others having a problem except CSV.  Will check them all again.  python produces a table.  Do you have a specific example?
 189 2012-07-22T21:48:07  <RogerHaase> python/python code
 190 2012-07-22T21:48:25  <ThomasWaldmann> i just looked through the converter codes
 191 2012-07-22T21:48:56  <ThomasWaldmann> image, archive, everything, nonexistent
 192 2012-07-22T21:56:16  <RogerHaase> correction, ignore comment about python code, I think it produces a page
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 194 2012-07-22T22:05:00  <RogerHaase> I am confused.  The transcludable items I am talking about are the ones listed on the Create new item page.
 195 2012-07-22T22:06:49  <RogerHaase> When I tested these long ago, csv was the only one that did not get wrapped the transclusion thingy.  But I will test them all again.
 196 2012-07-22T22:09:39  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, strange
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