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   2 2012-08-14T00:12:38  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: http://codereview.appspot.com/6458126/
   3 2012-08-14T00:12:38  <spy> dreimark: ^
   4 2012-08-14T00:12:57  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: http://vps.psviderski.name:8080/%2Bmodify/myblog/Google%20Plus
   5 2012-08-14T00:14:37  <spy> gn
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  25 2012-08-14T11:39:06  <CIA-54> Cheer Xiao <xiaqqaix@gmail.com> default * 1677:d74b9e4d41e5 2.0/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py:
  26 2012-08-14T11:39:06  <CIA-54> items/__init__.py: Split helper methods from_item and from_requst in
  27 2012-08-14T11:39:06  <CIA-54> Item._ModifyForm to a separate BaseModifyForm class.
  28 2012-08-14T11:39:06  <CIA-54> Cheer Xiao <xiaqqaix@gmail.com> default * 1678:51e1e8b0b7f2 2.0/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Implement Ticket item as 'ticket' itemtype.
  29 2012-08-14T11:39:42  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: ^ the radiobutton stuff renders badly, for both themes
  30 2012-08-14T11:40:18  <ThomasWaldmann> did you talk to jayditya about the css / stylus issue and how he does it?
  31 2012-08-14T11:53:11  * ThomasWaldmann files issues
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  35 2012-08-14T12:06:32  <xiaq> moin
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  37 2012-08-14T12:10:01  <ThomasWaldmann> hi xiaq
  38 2012-08-14T12:14:19  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: the issue is covered is by my "inline label should be inline" patch set...
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  40 2012-08-14T12:17:46  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: did you talk to jayditya about the css / stylus issue and how he does it?
  41 2012-08-14T12:18:43  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: nope, he came online really late yesterday. i'm writing a mail...
  42 2012-08-14T12:19:06  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: or file an issue to his tracker
  43 2012-08-14T12:19:36  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: that feels like a better choice :)
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  45 2012-08-14T12:26:58  <xiaq> so... https://bitbucket.org/Jaiditya/moin-2.0/issue/65/inline_checkbox-and-small_natural-widgets
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  47 2012-08-14T12:39:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
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  49 2012-08-14T12:58:50  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, yesterday was "Suggested 'pencils down' date. Take a week to scrub code, write tests, improve documentation, etc."
  50 2012-08-14T13:00:11  <ThomasWaldmann> 6d left until firm pencils down at aug 20.
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  56 2012-08-14T16:51:30  <dreimark> re
  57 2012-08-14T16:55:47  <dreimark> xiaq: that the Effert, Difficulty ,, now is a long item list is the reason for the #65 in Jaiditya repo
  58 2012-08-14T16:55:56  <dreimark> I assume
  59 2012-08-14T17:00:33  <xiaq> dreimark: yup, it should be all inline
  60 2012-08-14T17:00:44  <dreimark> ok
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  63 2012-08-14T17:02:55  <dreimark> bbl
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  67 2012-08-14T18:51:41  <spy> moin
  68 2012-08-14T18:52:29  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: did you play with the last changes? http://vps.psviderski.name:8080/%2Bmodify/myblog/Google%20Plus
  69 2012-08-14T19:47:38  <ThomasWaldmann> hi spy
  70 2012-08-14T19:48:51  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: if i klick on "now" rather fast, it sometimes empties the input field
  71 2012-08-14T19:49:22  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. if you doubleclick :D
  72 2012-08-14T19:52:13  <ThomasWaldmann> isn't somehow that "now" link (+ javascript?) plus that format example not much more effort than just filling in the current datetime?
  73 2012-08-14T19:52:51  <ThomasWaldmann> the only problem with filling stuff in is that it means "publish" by default, so it could happen accidentally.
  74 2012-08-14T19:53:07  <spy> yeah, known :) should I override other js handlers on <a> tag?
  75 2012-08-14T19:53:26  <ThomasWaldmann> but otoh, that's maybe not that problematic as the editor did not say otherwise
  76 2012-08-14T19:54:01  <ThomasWaldmann> and save draft == save with no ptime or what?
  77 2012-08-14T19:54:32  <ThomasWaldmann> don't ask me anything about js :)
  78 2012-08-14T19:55:20  <spy> yes, I have a Validator for this form that also normalize ptime value. If Save Draft is presses I clean ptime field.
  79 2012-08-14T19:56:04  <spy> empty and in-future means unpublished
  80 2012-08-14T19:57:27  <ThomasWaldmann> btw did you check whether we can have different meaning, like empty == published?
  81 2012-08-14T19:57:38  <ThomasWaldmann> that would make our index smaller :)
  82 2012-08-14T19:59:45  <ThomasWaldmann> otherwise, if we make ptime a general feature, almost every entry would have a ptime stored in index, just to make it published
  83 2012-08-14T20:00:03  <ThomasWaldmann> s/entry/revision/
  84 2012-08-14T20:15:08  <spy> remember that PTIME is a key value for blog entries sorting.
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  86 2012-08-14T20:24:43  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, but still no strict requirement for other items :)
  87 2012-08-14T20:24:58  <ThomasWaldmann> but it could be a useful feature there, too
  88 2012-08-14T20:37:45  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: the current implementation of "Now" is rather much more effort than just preloading the current datetime, but it is closer to the desired friendy js-timepicker.
  89 2012-08-14T20:39:46  <ThomasWaldmann> sometimes such "friendly" stuff is more pain to use that just enter the date :D (and of course also more pain to implement)
  90 2012-08-14T20:42:24  <spy> agreed :) but in our case to see and click on a calendar is much nicer than just enter the text-date.
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  92 2012-08-14T21:07:11  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: so, is the current "Now" behaviour acceptable for now?
  93 2012-08-14T21:10:12  <spy> btw, now Draw items seem broken
  94 2012-08-14T21:13:02  <ThomasWaldmann> spy: it is not just calendar, time is also needed. so I uphold my theory. :)
  95 2012-08-14T21:13:53  <ThomasWaldmann> it also would save screenspace, because the current time filled in would act like an example, so that stuff doesn't take up extra space.
  96 2012-08-14T21:18:34  <spy> ThomasWaldmann: are you against such stuff? http://trentrichardson.com/examples/timepicker/
  97 2012-08-14T21:20:29  <ThomasWaldmann> well, it will need l10n
  98 2012-08-14T21:20:54  <ThomasWaldmann> Sun/Mon as first weekday, 12/24h (maybe)
  99 2012-08-14T21:21:14  <ThomasWaldmann> and the output format should be like ISO
 100 2012-08-14T21:22:42  <ThomasWaldmann> month names translated, wkday names translated, label translated, ...
 101 2012-08-14T21:22:58  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe i am just too lazy for such stuff :D
 102 2012-08-14T21:24:32  <ThomasWaldmann> but this timepicker at least looks quite customizable (didn't check details, though)
 103 2012-08-14T21:24:49  <ThomasWaldmann> there are more pressing things todo for blog project, though
 104 2012-08-14T21:28:48  <spy> there is localization support for timepicker. I do not suggest to introduce some timepicker now. For now I want to create simple and acceptable variant for ptime widget.
 105 2012-08-14T21:29:57  <spy> you think that just preload ptime with the current datetime on item creation would be better
 106 2012-08-14T21:45:54  <ThomasWaldmann> yes.
 107 2012-08-14T21:46:13  <ThomasWaldmann> simple, no example needed, no doubleclick issues :)
 108 2012-08-14T21:46:22  <spy> :)
 109 2012-08-14T21:46:49  <ThomasWaldmann> and likely, if you want some NEAR time/date, you just have to edit a few digits
 110 2012-08-14T21:49:44  <dreimark> re
 111 2012-08-14T21:51:04  * ThomasWaldmann brb
 112 2012-08-14T21:53:31  <spy> maybe also force "Publish" button to fill ptime with the current datetime in case it is clean.
 113 2012-08-14T21:53:43  <spy> hi dreimark
 114 2012-08-14T21:53:46  <dreimark> me would prefer something regular simple
 115 2012-08-14T21:53:58  <dreimark> e.g. publish next monday
 116 2012-08-14T22:01:21  <dreimark> and i would prefer a datepicker because I have anyway to look at a calendar if I write something for the future
 117 2012-08-14T22:12:12  <spy> dreimark: me too
 118 2012-08-14T23:38:44  <dreimark> jaiditya: have you seen the issue by xiaq ?

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