1 2012-09-24T00:34:07 *** MaikuMori
2 2012-09-24T00:34:16 *** MaikuMori_
3 2012-09-24T03:47:47 *** RogerHaase
4 2012-09-24T09:00:45 *** TheSheep
5 2012-09-24T09:59:22 <dreimark> moin
6 2012-09-24T10:03:55 *** MattMaker
7 2012-09-24T10:09:14 *** MattMaker
8 2012-09-24T11:17:25 *** greg_f
9 2012-09-24T14:08:37 *** MaikuMori
10 2012-09-24T14:19:35 *** MaikuMori
11 2012-09-24T14:38:06 *** dave_largo
12 2012-09-24T15:17:30 *** RogerHaase
13 2012-09-24T19:39:12 *** RogerHaase
14 2012-09-24T19:42:50 *** RogerHaase
15 2012-09-24T19:44:22 *** greg_f
16 2012-09-24T20:05:04 *** RogerHaase1
17 2012-09-24T20:06:29 *** RogerHaase
18 2012-09-24T20:15:30 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, release time :)
19 2012-09-24T20:43:32 *** vpv
20 2012-09-24T20:43:33 *** xiaq
21 2012-09-24T20:43:34 *** ChanServ
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23 2012-09-24T20:43:34 *** bilal
24 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** spy__
25 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** MaikuMori
26 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** ronny
27 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** dennda__
28 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** CIA-78
29 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** eSyr-ng_
30 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** MattMaker
31 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** xorAxAx
32 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** jek
33 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** xjjk
34 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** RogerHaase1
35 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** eSyr
36 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** ThomasWaldmann
37 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** yufra_
38 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** spy_
39 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** waldi
40 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** dreimark
41 2012-09-24T20:44:15 *** breton
42 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** grzywacz
43 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** RogerHaase1
44 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** dave_largo
45 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** MaikuMori
46 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** MattMaker
47 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** bilal
48 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** spy__
49 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** vpv
50 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** xorAxAx
51 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** xiaq
52 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** ChanServ
53 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** jek
54 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** CIA-78
55 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** ronny
56 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** eSyr-ng_
57 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** dennda__
58 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** ThomasWaldmann
59 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** waldi
60 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** dreimark
61 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** breton
62 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** xjjk
63 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** eSyr
64 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** yufra_
65 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** spy_
66 2012-09-24T20:48:58 *** lindbohm.freenode.net
67 2012-09-24T20:56:50 *** xorAxAx
68 2012-09-24T20:57:28 *** xorAxAx
69 2012-09-24T20:57:29 *** xorAxAx
70 2012-09-24T20:57:35 *** MattMaker
71 2012-09-24T20:59:05 <CIA-78> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5894:9024ecc757bc 1.9/.hgtags: tagged release 1.9.5
72 2012-09-24T21:13:37 *** xiaq
73 2012-09-24T21:13:38 *** xiaq
74 2012-09-24T21:28:15 <ThomasWaldmann> can you do the mailing list / newsgroup announcement?
75 2012-09-24T21:28:39 * ThomasWaldmann already did the other stuff
76 2012-09-24T21:35:48 *** pkt
77 2012-09-24T21:35:59 <pkt> hi
78 2012-09-24T21:36:39 <pkt> I noticed (because of debian wiki) that the Greek translation of moinmoin 1.9.4 is full of spelling errors and typos
79 2012-09-24T21:37:21 <pkt> We had a small bug squashing party here in Greece and during this I made an improved translation for this version
80 2012-09-24T21:37:38 <pkt> you can find it here: http://eikonical.com/el.MoinMoin.po
81 2012-09-24T21:38:01 <pkt> if possible please merge
82 2012-09-24T21:38:03 <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: oike? note that somewhere down so it doesnt get lost in irc
83 2012-09-24T21:38:30 <ronny> *poke
84 2012-09-24T21:38:37 <pkt> thanks :)
85 2012-09-24T21:41:28 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^
86 2012-09-24T21:41:28 <ThomasWaldmann> pkt: you need to put the content on master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/el
87 2012-09-24T21:41:28 <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for helping! :)
88 2012-09-24T21:41:28 <waldi> code-in announced
89 2012-09-24T21:43:49 <pkt> ThomasWaldmann: thanks, I will do that
90 2012-09-24T21:43:50 <ThomasWaldmann> pkt: also have a look at action menu's "check translation" afterwards
91 2012-09-24T21:43:51 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: ah, great
92 2012-09-24T21:49:04 <pkt> hmm ThomasWaldmann: it says "inaccessible page" so I cannot edit it
93 2012-09-24T21:49:04 <pkt> (although I have logged in)
94 2012-09-24T21:49:05 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinPagesEditorGroup add your login name there
95 2012-09-24T21:51:17 <pkt> thanks now it is ok :)
96 2012-09-24T21:51:17 <ThomasWaldmann> pkt: i you like, ping me and i run the i18n update process afterwards. then the content on that page and in the repo will get updated.
97 2012-09-24T21:51:17 <ThomasWaldmann> you came just an hour too later for 1.9.5 release, though ;|
98 2012-09-24T21:51:18 <ThomasWaldmann> -r
99 2012-09-24T21:55:53 <pkt> really, uff I didn't know this
100 2012-09-24T21:56:23 <pkt> nevertheless better late than never :P
101 2012-09-24T21:58:44 <ThomasWaldmann> hah, no translation tasks any more. looks like there was too much google translate cheating.
102 2012-09-24T22:00:50 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, and no cash for tasks
103 2012-09-24T22:02:09 <pkt> I didn't know there was ever cash for such tasks
104 2012-09-24T22:02:45 <pkt> I was just motivated by the fact that debian wiki was looking like written by 5 year olds :P
105 2012-09-24T22:03:23 <ThomasWaldmann> only in gci. and we made sure that cheating doesn't work.
106 2012-09-24T22:03:33 <ThomasWaldmann> pkt: haha
107 2012-09-24T22:03:54 <ThomasWaldmann> (hopefully that wasn't GT also)
108 2012-09-24T22:05:08 <pkt> no it didn't look like a google translate job
109 2012-09-24T22:05:26 <pkt> it just had too many spelling and some logical mistakes
110 2012-09-24T22:05:49 <pkt> e.g., "regular expression subscription" was translated as "regular subscription"
111 2012-09-24T22:05:56 <pkt> which changes the meaning a lot
112 2012-09-24T22:06:28 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
113 2012-09-24T22:08:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: see mail from stephanie
114 2012-09-24T22:09:31 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes soon
115 2012-09-24T22:11:09 <dreimark> ok, you've seen it too
116 2012-09-24T22:12:16 <ThomasWaldmann> pkt: can you review the 2 fuzzies?
117 2012-09-24T22:12:38 <ThomasWaldmann> also s/1.6/1.9/
118 2012-09-24T22:13:24 <ThomasWaldmann> and I am not sure the kde doc team is best for that email address :D
119 2012-09-24T22:13:51 *** xiaq_
120 2012-09-24T22:14:38 *** xiaq
121 2012-09-24T22:16:07 <pkt> yes, the email is due to lokalize
122 2012-09-24T22:16:14 <pkt> I will change it
123 2012-09-24T22:17:30 <pkt> ThomasWaldmann: is is even needed to have the "Language-Team"?
124 2012-09-24T22:18:33 <ThomasWaldmann> well, just do it as you see it in the other langs
125 2012-09-24T22:18:43 <ThomasWaldmann> it's maybe not very useful, right
126 2012-09-24T22:22:03 <pkt> ok, I did like the German translation
127 2012-09-24T22:22:12 <pkt> I just put moin-user as the email
128 2012-09-24T22:22:23 <pkt> and fixed the fuzzies as well
129 2012-09-24T22:22:30 <ThomasWaldmann> ok. are you finished with editing there for now?
130 2012-09-24T22:22:37 <pkt> yes I think so
131 2012-09-24T22:22:40 <ThomasWaldmann> then I'ld run the update script
132 2012-09-24T22:22:49 <ThomasWaldmann> likely there will be more todo afterwards.
133 2012-09-24T22:23:04 <pkt> yes, maybe
134 2012-09-24T22:24:41 <pkt> if you or somebody else notices something, my email is in the translation, normally I 'm pretty responsive
135 2012-09-24T22:25:07 <ThomasWaldmann> look now
136 2012-09-24T22:25:55 <ThomasWaldmann> if you like, subscribe to the de translation on the master19 wiki. when someone of us edits there, usually there is something to do.
137 2012-09-24T22:26:25 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you can kill all the comments at the end
138 2012-09-24T22:26:32 <ThomasWaldmann> (unused strings)
139 2012-09-24T22:29:35 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/el?action=CheckTranslation < (if you have time, look at the red and /!\ stuff)
140 2012-09-24T22:30:04 <pkt> ok I will try to do this a little later
141 2012-09-24T22:30:30 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks for improving it
142 2012-09-24T22:32:15 <pkt> I think for now the best I can do for the pages is to "untranslate" them
143 2012-09-24T22:32:36 <pkt> because translating the content would take too much time
144 2012-09-24T22:32:59 <ThomasWaldmann> the page names? yes.
145 2012-09-24T22:33:08 <pkt> yes
146 2012-09-24T22:33:16 <pkt> I think these are the only reds
147 2012-09-24T22:33:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i also did that for german, not all pages are translated, so of course the page names of them are also not translated
148 2012-09-24T22:40:12 <pkt> hmm for some reason the pages show up without existing in the translation
149 2012-09-24T22:40:21 <pkt> e.g., "WikiLicense"
150 2012-09-24T22:40:36 <pkt> it is not translated, yet it shows as translated in check translation
151 2012-09-24T22:40:53 <pkt> could it be because of how things were before?
152 2012-09-24T22:41:19 <pkt> i.e., the name was translated before and this caused creation of the page or something?
153 2012-09-24T22:41:57 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, 2 new fuzzies
154 2012-09-24T22:42:14 * ThomasWaldmann looks at checktranslation
155 2012-09-24T22:42:50 <ThomasWaldmann> WikiLicense page does not exist. Neither in English, nor in Greek. We can't know it.
156 2012-09-24T22:44:46 <pkt> even e.g., RandomPage
157 2012-09-24T22:45:00 <pkt> there is no translation for it as far as I can see
158 2012-09-24T22:45:16 <pkt> (btw I also fixed the fuzzies)
159 2012-09-24T22:45:58 <ThomasWaldmann> in case of doubt, do it like in "de"
160 2012-09-24T22:48:57 <pkt> in this case in "de" these pages are translated
161 2012-09-24T22:49:03 <pkt> (both name and content)
162 2012-09-24T22:49:41 <pkt> I think the right solution is to just delete the Greek page names where they are red
163 2012-09-24T22:50:05 <pkt> if I knew how to do this :P
164 2012-09-24T22:50:07 <dreimark> hmm, can we use xiaq_ ticket system for preparing easy todo tasks ?
165 2012-09-24T22:50:39 <dreimark> pkt: they should be in the i18n as translation
166 2012-09-24T22:51:04 <pkt> dreimark: but what if the content is not translated?
167 2012-09-24T22:51:30 <pkt> the english page has content, the Greek has nothing and it is doubtful that anyone would write any
168 2012-09-24T22:51:35 <dreimark> the idea is to add there the string and then write the translation
169 2012-09-24T22:51:58 <pkt> yes but in the meantime the users lose right?
170 2012-09-24T22:52:26 <pkt> usually the ones that need to read these pages also know english (at least in Greece)
171 2012-09-24T22:53:26 <pkt> so, I feel that it is not for the benefit of the users to translate the names and thus point them to empty pages
172 2012-09-24T22:53:49 <ThomasWaldmann> yup
173 2012-09-24T22:55:47 <pkt> in any case, I need to go now, thanks a lot for the help :)
174 2012-09-24T22:56:25 <pkt> and good night :)
175 2012-09-24T22:56:39 *** pkt
176 2012-09-24T23:00:09 *** dreimark
177 2012-09-24T23:00:09 *** breton
178 2012-09-24T23:00:41 *** brunomartin
179 2012-09-24T23:04:11 *** dreimark
180 2012-09-24T23:04:11 *** breton
181 2012-09-24T23:08:30 *** spy
182 2012-09-24T23:09:19 *** spy__
183 2012-09-24T23:13:13 *** grzywacz
184 2012-09-24T23:15:42 *** waldi_
185 2012-09-24T23:16:14 *** dave_largo
186 2012-09-24T23:17:30 *** waldi
187 2012-09-24T23:24:45 <dreimark> gn
188 2012-09-24T23:40:28 *** eSyr
189 2012-09-24T23:40:34 *** eSyr
190 2012-09-24T23:46:51 *** MaikuMori_
191 2012-09-24T23:47:39 *** xiaq
192 2012-09-24T23:50:42 *** xiaq_
193 2012-09-24T23:50:42 *** MaikuMori
194 2012-09-24T23:51:39 *** MaikuMori
195 2012-09-24T23:53:16 *** RogerHaase1
196 2012-09-24T23:54:07 *** MaikuMori_
197 2012-09-24T23:54:07 *** waldi_
198 2012-09-24T23:54:53 *** waldi
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