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   5 2013-02-14T01:15:20  <ThomasWaldmann>  we have a pycharm license for MoinMoin Wiki developers!
   6 2013-02-14T01:16:53  <ThomasWaldmann> it is valid for all MoinMoin Wiki developers/contributors, so just contact me if interested.
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   8 2013-02-14T02:22:06  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: does BB support cherry-picking (transplanting in hg terms) when mergin a pull request? that would eliminate quite some trivial merge changesets.
   9 2013-02-14T02:32:29  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: i don't use bb for merging / accepting pull requests.
  10 2013-02-14T02:33:17  <ThomasWaldmann> i just see them being there, pull and merge them into local repo, push to hg.moinmo.in (and from there it gets mirrored to bb, which then notices the stuff got it).
  11 2013-02-14T02:33:42  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, seen the pycharm news?
  12 2013-02-14T02:33:53  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: nope, what's up?
  13 2013-02-14T02:34:06  <ThomasWaldmann> see wiki front page
  14 2013-02-14T02:34:11  <xiaq> Valentine's day offer? :)
  15 2013-02-14T02:34:18  <ThomasWaldmann> almost :D
  16 2013-02-14T02:35:09  <xiaq> ah, das ist nett :)
  17 2013-02-14T02:37:14  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i'll give it a try. it comes with a free 30-day trial right? i'll ask you for license key if i plan to use it after that
  18 2013-02-14T02:37:31  <ThomasWaldmann> sounds like a plan
  19 2013-02-14T02:37:57  <ThomasWaldmann> i don't remember precisely whether it has a 30d license built-in or you need to apply for one first, though
  20 2013-02-14T02:38:07  <ThomasWaldmann> try it and tell me :)
  21 2013-02-14T02:38:17  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: alright
  22 2013-02-14T02:38:44  <ThomasWaldmann> which os/desktop will you use it on?
  23 2013-02-14T02:40:08  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: Archlinux, herbstluftwm (http://wwwcip.cs.fau.de/~re06huxa/herbstluftwm/). i already know the problem of java apps on tiling wm and the workaround... (http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Problems_with_Java)
  24 2013-02-14T02:41:10  <xiaq> an impressive 500KB/s download rate. i wonder they had a nice CDN.
  25 2013-02-14T02:47:44  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: no application for trial needed, it appears side by side with "enter license key"
  26 2013-02-14T02:47:46  <ThomasWaldmann> i just opened an issue on their issue tracker: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-8886
  27 2013-02-14T02:49:38  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: PyCharm working fine here. doesn't need the usual Java app workaround
  28 2013-02-14T02:50:09  <ThomasWaldmann> hopefully not eating all resources :D
  29 2013-02-14T02:50:49  <ThomasWaldmann> since using it, i somehow notice the limit of my laptop's cpu
  30 2013-02-14T02:57:10  <xiaq> coming only after Firefox in memory usage. my quad-core cpu seems to be sufficient though
  31 2013-02-14T02:57:58  <ThomasWaldmann> you likely will have to increase some resources (it'll tell you)
  32 2013-02-14T02:58:53  <ThomasWaldmann>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
  33 2013-02-14T02:58:57  <ThomasWaldmann>  2608 tw        20   0 1079m 647m  26m S    4 16.4  42:38.68 java
  34 2013-02-14T02:58:59  <ThomasWaldmann> 19042 tw        20   0 1081m 379m  36m S    2  9.6 248:06.66 firefox
  35 2013-02-14T02:59:21  <ThomasWaldmann> that's without doing anything in it :D
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  46 2013-02-14T05:33:05  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i'd like a shell account (mainly for ircing). sent you a mail :)
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  52 2013-02-14T09:13:57  <dreimark> moin
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  54 2013-02-14T10:04:32  * xiaq is memorizing German noun declension classes
  55 2013-02-14T10:04:58  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: do you native speakers know these declension classes, or do you know them word by word?
  56 2013-02-14T10:05:56  <xiaq> (know the declensions word by word, i meant)
  57 2013-02-14T10:13:28  <dreimark> not word by word
  58 2013-02-14T10:13:31  <dreimark> http://www.deutschseite.de/grammatik/deklination_der_substantive/deklination_der_substantive.html
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  60 2013-02-14T10:15:49  <xiaq> dreimark: yeah that's what i'm memorizing :) i wonder do native speakers know these different declension classes, or the correct forms just come in mind when you see a noun?
  61 2013-02-14T10:18:02  <dreimark> they learned at school too, but usually it is that because you are trained that it comes in your mind when you want to use the noun
  62 2013-02-14T10:18:18  <xiaq> dreimark: ah, ok
  63 2013-02-14T10:19:44  <xiaq> dreimark: German nouns are no easier than Latin due to umlauts. conjugations of the verbs are much simpler though...
  64 2013-02-14T10:22:03  <dreimark> in german we can have verlong WikiName words because it is common to add nouns to a new word
  65 2013-02-14T10:22:33  <dreimark> but they are then as Wikiname
  66 2013-02-14T10:23:01  <xiaq> dreimark: you meant verylongwikinamewords :)
  67 2013-02-14T10:23:04  <dreimark> http://german.about.com/library/blwort_long.htm
  68 2013-02-14T10:23:16  <dreimark> yes
  69 2013-02-14T10:24:33  <xiaq> dreimark: isn't this just an orthogonal convention, like all german Nouns are capitalized? does it have syntactic implications?
  70 2013-02-14T10:25:10  <xiaq> s/orthogonal/orthographical/
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  72 2013-02-14T10:27:37  <dreimark> stringing noun words together make shorter sentences by counting words but not by letters
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  80 2013-02-14T14:01:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  81 2013-02-14T14:02:14  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: moin :)
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  84 2013-02-14T14:13:51  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/7330043
  85 2013-02-14T14:18:55  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: pr sent :)
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  88 2013-02-14T15:46:23  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/7308089/ updated
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