1 2013-03-28T00:23:23 *** xorAxAx
2 2013-03-28T00:24:05 *** xorAxAx
3 2013-03-28T00:58:38 *** ronny
4 2013-03-28T04:25:35 *** Guest8313
5 2013-03-28T04:32:06 *** dwcramer
6 2013-03-28T08:56:23 *** greg_f
7 2013-03-28T11:28:36 *** pooryorick
8 2013-03-28T11:31:55 *** pooryorick
9 2013-03-28T12:26:15 *** dwcramer
10 2013-03-28T12:34:39 *** dave_largo
11 2013-03-28T14:25:58 *** bruno_
12 2013-03-28T14:27:31 *** ashutosh1461
13 2013-03-28T14:53:57 *** ronny
14 2013-03-28T15:00:51 *** RogerHaase
15 2013-03-28T15:27:44 <RogerHaase> ashutosh1461: when you need to change css, you must only modify the stylus files and then use Stylus to "compile" the CSS files. Install Stylus and then run command found at top of modernized/static/common.css.
16 2013-03-28T15:31:18 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I can not find Stylus requirement in our docs. Is https://moin-20.readthedocs.org/en/latest/devel/development.html the right place to mention required development software: Python >= 2.6, Stylus, Mercurial, ...
17 2013-03-28T15:55:16 *** ashutosh1461
18 2013-03-28T16:18:53 *** rihnapstor
19 2013-03-28T16:19:25 *** rihnapstor
20 2013-03-28T16:29:05 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yes, maybe add a new section "Requirements for development environment"
21 2013-03-28T16:29:33 <ThomasWaldmann> do not mention any stuff there that is already documented as a moin requirement, just the additional stuff for devs
22 2013-03-28T16:30:21 *** rihen_
23 2013-03-28T16:33:17 *** rihnapstor
24 2013-03-28T16:36:44 *** rihen_
25 2013-03-28T16:37:05 *** rihnapstor
26 2013-03-28T16:37:29 *** rihnapstor
27 2013-03-28T16:58:40 *** ashutosh1461
28 2013-03-28T17:29:30 *** bruno_
29 2013-03-28T17:35:28 *** greg_f
30 2013-03-28T17:46:00 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: small pytest-pep8 fix for windows https://codereview.appspot.com/8106043/
31 2013-03-28T17:49:59 *** bruno_
32 2013-03-28T17:51:38 <rihnapstor> ThomasWaldmann: i am trying to solve issue #308 (obsolete html table attributes) .how does a normal user subscribe to the specific feed within moinwiki ? i located the feeds here http:localhost:8080/+feed/atom.
33 2013-03-28T18:01:29 *** vaishaks
34 2013-03-28T18:13:24 *** vaishaks
35 2013-03-28T18:33:36 <ThomasWaldmann> rihnapstor: iirc it is announced in the html head
36 2013-03-28T18:35:55 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yeah, looks ok. did you talk to the #pylib people?
37 2013-03-28T18:36:09 <ThomasWaldmann> esp. hpk42?
38 2013-03-28T18:37:21 <RogerHaase> I opened issue, cloned, will push and add pull request now
39 2013-03-28T19:02:19 <ashutosh1461> RogerHaase, in relation with https://codereview.appspot.com/7751045/ , is the name of the new class fine ?
40 2013-03-28T19:06:09 <dreimark> ashutosh1461: is that the question about prefixing class names by moin- ?
41 2013-03-28T19:06:56 <dreimark> that is because we have in 1.x a lot of mismatchings
42 2013-03-28T19:07:01 <ashutosh1461> dreimark, yes i thought you were unavailable, so i was asking roger.
43 2013-03-28T19:07:31 <ashutosh1461> so, what about the rest of the classes, which don't use the prefix moin- ? should we convert them as well ?
44 2013-03-28T19:08:02 <dreimark> they have to become converted - in an additional changeset
45 2013-03-28T19:08:20 <dreimark> we have already converted lots compared to 1.9
46 2013-03-28T19:10:05 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-09-21?highlight=%28prefix%29#CA-0483d367a8fe23edaf9e5dc03e6b04acac712821_27
47 2013-03-28T19:10:31 <ashutosh1461> fine, and in reference to the https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/250/destroying-renamed-items-throws-an , should i go for the first solution suggested ?
48 2013-03-28T19:10:59 <dreimark> some of the stuff is over the time discussed, see t:MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/201 prefix
49 2013-03-28T19:11:10 <dreimark> and text search in the moinmo.in wiki
50 2013-03-28T19:11:36 <dreimark> that looks up all chat logs
51 2013-03-28T19:11:48 <dreimark> and searches prefix
52 2013-03-28T19:11:49 <RogerHaase> ashutosh1461: dreimark: classes defined in userstyles.css should not have moin- prefix
53 2013-03-28T19:12:06 <dreimark> RogerHaase: why?
54 2013-03-28T19:12:37 <RogerHaase> wiki parser - no moin- prefix added here, these classes are used within pages: {{{#!wiki solid
55 2013-03-28T19:12:58 <dreimark> ah, yeah correct
56 2013-03-28T19:15:43 <ashutosh1461> RogerHaase, got it and in reference to the https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/250/destroying-renamed-items-throws-an , should i go for the first solution suggested ?
57 2013-03-28T19:18:59 <RogerHaase> ashutosh1461: by reading issue, first sounds easier, but best decision is probably made after looking at code
58 2013-03-28T19:19:21 <dreimark> a third solution can be to create a new item without any histor
59 2013-03-28T19:19:30 <dreimark> y
60 2013-03-28T19:20:12 <dreimark> that is similiar to copying
61 2013-03-28T19:20:20 <dreimark> which also is close to 1)
62 2013-03-28T19:20:29 <RogerHaase> ashutosh1461: did you see dreimark's and my comments about installing Stylus?
63 2013-03-28T19:22:54 <ashutosh1461> RogerHaase, yes i saw them, i will do that stylus stuff tomorrow :)
64 2013-03-28T19:24:33 <ashutosh1461> dreimark, i dont understand your point, can you explain a bit more ?
65 2013-03-28T19:26:53 <ashutosh1461> because when you modify a given page, then you need to store it's history .
66 2013-03-28T19:27:51 <RogerHaase> gtg
67 2013-03-28T19:27:54 *** RogerHaase
68 2013-03-28T19:29:20 <dreimark> ashutosh1461: yes. this is the normal case.
69 2013-03-28T19:29:48 <dreimark> or how we used it already
70 2013-03-28T19:30:11 <dreimark> but we had also before not a chance to set multiple names to an item
71 2013-03-28T19:31:08 <dreimark> we have more options now for renaming.
72 2013-03-28T19:31:26 <dreimark> it can be adding an additional name to the name list
73 2013-03-28T19:32:05 <dreimark> then it exists whith same id for two names
74 2013-03-28T19:32:41 <ashutosh1461> but what are the options say when we modify a created page not by renaming but by changing the content ?
75 2013-03-28T19:35:06 <dreimark> this makes a different data id, but it keeps the same itemid
76 2013-03-28T19:36:34 <dreimark> if we need a new itemid we have to create a new item with the content of an existing item, then it also gets its own history
77 2013-03-28T19:38:39 <ashutosh1461> no, i guess in the case i told above, the items are currently getting a same data id as well.
78 2013-03-28T19:39:52 *** bruno_
79 2013-03-28T19:40:35 <dreimark> ashutosh1461: http://test.moinmo.in/%2Bhistory/example2
80 2013-03-28T19:40:40 <dreimark> dataid is different
81 2013-03-28T19:41:11 <dreimark> look on both meta
82 2013-03-28T19:42:08 <dreimark> (have only checked there, may be it is a new bug)
83 2013-03-28T19:46:27 <ashutosh1461> dreimark, i was facing the same problem as stated in the bug, when i tried to destroy an existing revision of an item.
84 2013-03-28T19:47:05 <ashutosh1461> gtg now. i will look into it when i come back.
85 2013-03-28T19:47:12 *** ashutosh1461
86 2013-03-28T19:47:12 <dreimark> I know and recognized that
87 2013-03-28T19:50:42 <rihnapstor> dreimark: in the issue #308, i have to remove the duplicate attributes inside the table tag and replace them with css ?
88 2013-03-28T19:51:48 <rihnapstor> thats how the bug is described.
89 2013-03-28T19:55:42 <dreimark> rihnapstor: remove obsolete html table attributes
90 2013-03-28T19:56:22 <dreimark> http://webdesign.about.com/od/tables/a/aa121597.htm
91 2013-03-28T19:56:38 <dreimark> replace those as described here
92 2013-03-28T19:56:56 <dreimark> but please do in the belonging stylus files and compile
93 2013-03-28T19:57:02 <dreimark> the them to css
94 2013-03-28T20:02:18 <rihnapstor> dreimark: so this bug is about seggregating style from html .should i use predefined values for the table tag without altering <table> tag with different values.
95 2013-03-28T20:09:46 <dreimark> look which of those we have in use and replace them
96 2013-03-28T20:11:42 <rihnapstor> ok thanks dreimark :)
97 2013-03-28T20:27:10 <dreimark> if someone is interested to meet us http://wiki.python-forum.de/PythonBarCamp2013
98 2013-03-28T20:30:28 <ThomasWaldmann> http://i.imgur.com/Q3cUg29.gif
99 2013-03-28T20:45:21 *** dave_largo
100 2013-03-28T21:01:54 * rihnapstor says gn
101 2013-03-28T21:02:08 <dreimark> gn rihnapstor
102 2013-03-28T21:02:29 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: no sound
103 2013-03-28T21:03:25 <rihnapstor> dreimark: i wish to atend FOSDEM next year if it happens
104 2013-03-28T21:05:47 <dreimark> rihnapstor: cool, this year the python room had 20% too much people
105 2013-03-28T21:06:02 <dreimark> hopefully it is next year a larger room
106 2013-03-28T21:06:33 <dreimark> person heating produces 40 degree or so
107 2013-03-28T21:07:17 <dreimark> rihnapstor: this year is pyconde in cologne, and if there are english proposals there is an english track
108 2013-03-28T21:07:25 <dreimark> see http://pycon.de
109 2013-03-28T21:14:43 <rihnapstor> dreimark: what do we get to learn in FOSDEM? are there talks from multinational company staffs?
110 2013-03-28T21:17:02 <dreimark> rihnapstor: https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/
111 2013-03-28T21:17:32 <dreimark> I was there with Marc-Andre
112 2013-03-28T21:18:00 <dreimark> and we were some hours in the python room, had no chance to look at something else
113 2013-03-28T21:18:13 <dreimark> because of the queue to get in
114 2013-03-28T21:18:55 <dreimark> we had a good chance because Marc-Andre gave a talk about the PSF
115 2013-03-28T21:19:59 <dreimark> it is a bit similar to europythonm but there you have much more talks in different scopes
116 2013-03-28T21:21:54 <dreimark> xiaq: :)
117 2013-03-28T21:22:58 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do you know which nick UditSaxena has?
118 2013-03-28T21:36:52 <ThomasWaldmann> no
119 2013-03-28T21:37:55 <rihnapstor> me says bye
120 2013-03-28T21:38:04 * rihnapstor says bye
121 2013-03-28T21:38:06 *** rihnapstor
122 2013-03-28T23:21:24 *** ronny
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