1 2013-06-05T03:17:42 *** sunu
2 2013-06-05T06:54:54 *** vpv_
3 2013-06-05T06:57:24 <ThomasWaldmann> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ReverseLinkDisabled we somehow have the same issue...
4 2013-06-05T07:01:04 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you all think of just changing the linkto-search href in the pagename ("title") to just be a normal link to the page (for 1.9 - as it is in moin2)
5 2013-06-05T07:02:33 <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:33,844 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 108.178.14.93 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnPageCreation?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnPageCreation%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 8.576 !!!!!!!!
6 2013-06-05T07:02:37 <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:42,836 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 184.154.104.70 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnNavigation?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnNavigation%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 8.697 !!!!!!!!
7 2013-06-05T07:02:41 <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:56,732 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 108.178.14.93 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnUpdatingPython?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnUpdatingPython%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 9.299 !!!!!!!!!
8 2013-06-05T07:04:09 <ThomasWaldmann> ^ that stuff is causing quite a big part of the total load - and i doubt it usually is a user clicking there
9 2013-06-05T07:04:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (esp. since the referrer seems wrong)
10 2013-06-05T07:05:40 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: rss_rc is causing similar issues, btw
11 2013-06-05T07:07:11 <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 01:37:41,568 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 37.228.104.80 http://moinmo.in/action/rss_rc/MoinDev/MoinMoinLogo?diffs=1&show_att=1&action=rss_rc&unique=0&page=MoinDev%2FMoinMoinLogo&ddiffs=1 None 72.591 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 2013-06-05T07:08:06 <ThomasWaldmann> len("!!!!") = int(time_in_seconds)
13 2013-06-05T07:08:32 *** ashutosh1461
14 2013-06-05T07:08:37 <eSyr> how many exclamation marks.
15 2013-06-05T07:09:07 * ThomasWaldmann did it for easier grepping of the worst stuff :)
16 2013-06-05T07:09:41 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: yes, rss_rc is known for it's heavy queries, that's why it has rather tight surge protection limits.
17 2013-06-05T07:10:36 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i can try to speed up it, but it would require to implement some caching mechanism. I mean, mostly relying on existing ones, but, anyway.
18 2013-06-05T07:11:01 <ThomasWaldmann> doesn't help much, if requests come from different IPs
19 2013-06-05T07:11:57 <eSyr> yes, sure.
20 2013-06-05T07:12:37 *** ashutosh1461
21 2013-06-05T07:12:47 <eSyr> mostly it's the same problem as with RecentChanges and other history-related stuff - we need some indexing for event log.
22 2013-06-05T07:12:59 *** ashutosh1461
23 2013-06-05T07:13:48 <eSyr> uh-huh, i wish i'd have some additional 12-24 hours in a day -_-
24 2013-06-05T07:17:52 * ThomasWaldmann increased rss_rc surge protection to (1, 300)
25 2013-06-05T07:19:10 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, i'm against making linkto-search to be normal link (by default) - i'm using this functionality quite frequently, at least on my installations.
26 2013-06-05T07:19:20 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, using xapian helps alot.
27 2013-06-05T07:19:45 <ThomasWaldmann> i know, but it also should be usable without
28 2013-06-05T07:20:24 * eSyr got huge speedup after enabling xapian on site with ~2000 pages, almost the same as after deleting 90% of 60k spam users
29 2013-06-05T07:20:41 <ThomasWaldmann> another option would be to somehow use js to create that link, so a crawler that doesn't do js won't get it
30 2013-06-05T07:20:42 <eSyr> well, simple search doesn't scales well :(
31 2013-06-05T07:20:57 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: nofollow, maybe?
32 2013-06-05T07:21:10 <ThomasWaldmann> they ignore it, we already have that
33 2013-06-05T07:21:17 <eSyr> he.
34 2013-06-05T07:21:19 <ThomasWaldmann> same for robots.txt entry
35 2013-06-05T07:21:23 <eSyr> bad crawler.
36 2013-06-05T07:27:56 *** TheSheep_
37 2013-06-05T07:28:07 *** TheSheep
38 2013-06-05T07:28:28 *** ashutosh1461
39 2013-06-05T07:37:04 *** sharky93
40 2013-06-05T07:39:07 <sharky93> moin
41 2013-06-05T07:41:33 <ThomasWaldmann> moin sharky93
42 2013-06-05T07:42:30 *** ashutosh1461
43 2013-06-05T07:46:50 <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, how should we check whether the access is by itemid or revid or by name ?
44 2013-06-05T07:47:41 <ThomasWaldmann> all names live in a namespace, so ...
45 2013-06-05T07:51:54 <ashutosh1461> and differentiating between itemid and revid ?
46 2013-06-05T08:03:11 <ashutosh1461> i mean should we use a +/- type identifier or check every time whether the input can correspond to a valid itemid / revid ?
47 2013-06-05T08:04:36 <ThomasWaldmann> well, how about just seeing itemid as a different kind of name, living in a different namespace?
48 2013-06-05T08:10:28 <ashutosh1461> but we would still have to identify the namespace the input belongs to.
49 2013-06-05T08:18:29 <ashutosh1461> and i mailed you the key :)
50 2013-06-05T08:21:30 <ThomasWaldmann> the namespace would be part of "the input"
51 2013-06-05T08:22:16 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, i got some keys to install, maybe later today
52 2013-06-05T08:53:13 *** ashutosh1461
53 2013-06-05T08:55:14 <sharky93> http://coding.fm/ - this one :)
54 2013-06-05T09:09:52 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: i don't hear anything there. should there be some sound?
55 2013-06-05T09:09:59 <sharky93> yes
56 2013-06-05T09:14:29 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann ^, it is using the SoundCloud api to play
57 2013-06-05T09:22:58 <ThomasWaldmann> well, just another unusable *.fm site (after di.fm worked ok for a long time, their new site doesn't)
58 2013-06-05T09:23:57 *** birkenfeld_
59 2013-06-05T09:30:10 *** birkenfeld
60 2013-06-05T09:30:12 *** TheSheep
61 2013-06-05T09:30:13 *** birkenfeld_
62 2013-06-05T09:30:50 *** TheSheep
63 2013-06-05T09:36:31 *** sharky93
64 2013-06-05T09:42:11 *** sharky93
65 2013-06-05T10:08:17 <SunuTheNinja> Hmm.. I hear the sound of key strokes on coding.fm. but that's not really funny :-|
66 2013-06-05T10:13:51 <SunuTheNinja> sharky93: FYI, pycon registrations are open now
67 2013-06-05T10:16:06 *** greg_f
68 2013-06-05T10:17:42 <sharky93> SunuTheNinja, i see you rejoined the ninja clan :D
69 2013-06-05T10:30:11 <SunuTheNinja> hehe :-P
70 2013-06-05T10:40:12 *** TheSheep
71 2013-06-05T10:45:04 *** TheSheep
72 2013-06-05T12:30:46 *** TheSheep
73 2013-06-05T12:33:01 *** brunomartin
74 2013-06-05T12:34:21 *** TheSheep
75 2013-06-05T12:37:30 *** dave_largo
76 2013-06-05T13:09:57 *** xorAxAx_
77 2013-06-05T13:12:47 *** xorAxAx
78 2013-06-05T13:19:34 *** xorAxAx
79 2013-06-05T13:26:02 *** tah
80 2013-06-05T13:30:46 *** ThomasAH
81 2013-06-05T13:30:48 *** ChanServ
82 2013-06-05T13:40:14 <dreimark> eSyr: if you find that feature for another 12 hours share it with me
83 2013-06-05T13:47:47 *** ChanServ
84 2013-06-05T13:47:47 *** verne.freenode.net
85 2013-06-05T14:06:39 <eSyr> dreimark: for sure.
86 2013-06-05T14:13:52 *** ana_ananasova
87 2013-06-05T14:27:01 *** birkenfeld_
88 2013-06-05T14:28:37 *** ThomasAH
89 2013-06-05T14:28:52 *** ana-ananasova
90 2013-06-05T14:30:23 *** birkenfeld
91 2013-06-05T14:30:25 *** greg_f
92 2013-06-05T14:30:25 *** ana_ananasova
93 2013-06-05T14:30:25 *** tah
94 2013-06-05T14:30:26 *** birkenfeld_
95 2013-06-05T14:31:09 *** greg_f
96 2013-06-05T14:36:30 *** greg_f
97 2013-06-05T14:36:32 *** TheSheep
98 2013-06-05T14:48:49 *** greg_f
99 2013-06-05T14:48:49 *** TheSheep
100 2013-06-05T14:50:22 *** 36DAARYEI
101 2013-06-05T15:40:58 *** sunumonster
102 2013-06-05T15:40:59 *** ThomasAH
103 2013-06-05T15:41:17 *** sunumonster
104 2013-06-05T15:41:30 *** ronny_
105 2013-06-05T15:44:23 *** ThomasAH
106 2013-06-05T15:47:58 *** sunumons-
107 2013-06-05T15:48:15 *** sunumonster
108 2013-06-05T15:52:50 *** ThomasAH
109 2013-06-05T15:53:43 *** tah
110 2013-06-05T15:57:58 *** SteveMcI1tyre
111 2013-06-05T16:02:54 *** dimaursu16
112 2013-06-05T16:03:20 *** dimaursu16
113 2013-06-05T17:00:43 *** MarcelH
114 2013-06-05T17:00:53 *** greg_f
115 2013-06-05T17:00:56 *** TheSheep
116 2013-06-05T17:00:57 *** ChanServ
117 2013-06-05T17:00:59 *** xorAxAx
118 2013-06-05T17:01:00 *** dave_largo
119 2013-06-05T17:01:01 *** sharky93
120 2013-06-05T17:01:07 *** brunomartin
121 2013-06-05T17:01:12 *** ThomasWaldmann
122 2013-06-05T17:01:12 *** waldi
123 2013-06-05T17:01:13 *** dreimark
124 2013-06-05T17:01:13 *** dreimark_
125 2013-06-05T17:01:13 *** SunuTheNinja
126 2013-06-05T17:01:13 *** eSyr-ng
127 2013-06-05T17:01:14 *** xiaq
128 2013-06-05T17:01:14 *** sharky93_
129 2013-06-05T17:01:20 *** sunumons-
130 2013-06-05T17:01:26 *** SteveMcIntyre
131 2013-06-05T17:01:29 *** dav1d
132 2013-06-05T17:01:30 *** ana-ananasova
133 2013-06-05T17:01:30 *** birkenfeld
134 2013-06-05T17:01:46 *** breton
135 2013-06-05T17:01:48 *** jek_
136 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** sunumons-
137 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** dav1d
138 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** sharky93_
139 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** xiaq
140 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** eSyr-ng
141 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** SunuTheNinja
142 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** dreimark_
143 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** dreimark
144 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** SteveMcIntyre
145 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** jek_
146 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** breton
147 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** waldi
148 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** ThomasWaldmann
149 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** sharky93
150 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** brunomartin
151 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** dave_largo
152 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** xorAxAx
153 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** ChanServ
154 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** birkenfeld
155 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** ana-ananasova
156 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** greg_f
157 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** TheSheep
158 2013-06-05T17:08:02 *** verne.freenode.net
159 2013-06-05T17:33:49 *** brunomartin
160 2013-06-05T17:43:18 *** ronny_
161 2013-06-05T17:49:14 *** greg_f
162 2013-06-05T19:36:17 *** TheSheep
163 2013-06-05T19:41:06 *** xorAxAx
164 2013-06-05T19:41:11 *** birkenfeld
165 2013-06-05T19:41:44 *** TheSheep
166 2013-06-05T19:41:55 *** xorAxAx
167 2013-06-05T19:41:55 *** xorAxAx
168 2013-06-05T19:42:33 *** birkenfeld
169 2013-06-05T20:51:19 *** sharky93
170 2013-06-05T21:00:29 <dreimark> Bitbucket has reached 1,000,000 users!
171 2013-06-05T21:03:12 *** brunomartin
172 2013-06-05T21:15:50 *** dave_largo
173 2013-06-05T21:59:13 *** ana-ananasova
174 2013-06-05T22:36:00 *** brunomartin
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