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   3 2013-06-05T06:57:24  <ThomasWaldmann>  http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ReverseLinkDisabled we somehow have the same issue...
   4 2013-06-05T07:01:04  <ThomasWaldmann> what do you all think of just changing the linkto-search href in the pagename ("title") to just be a normal link to the page (for 1.9 - as it is in moin2)
   5 2013-06-05T07:02:33  <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:33,844 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 108.178.14.93 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnPageCreation?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnPageCreation%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 8.576 !!!!!!!!
   6 2013-06-05T07:02:37  <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:42,836 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 184.154.104.70 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnNavigation?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnNavigation%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 8.697 !!!!!!!!
   7 2013-06-05T07:02:41  <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 06:58:56,732 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 108.178.14.93 http://moinmo.in/action/fullsearch/HelpOnUpdatingPython?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22HelpOnUpdatingPython%22&context=180 http://moinmo.in/ 9.299 !!!!!!!!!
   8 2013-06-05T07:04:09  <ThomasWaldmann> ^ that stuff is causing quite a big part of the total load - and i doubt it usually is a user clicking there
   9 2013-06-05T07:04:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (esp. since the referrer seems wrong)
  10 2013-06-05T07:05:40  <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: rss_rc is causing similar issues, btw
  11 2013-06-05T07:07:11  <ThomasWaldmann> 2013-06-05 01:37:41,568 MoinMoin.wsgiapp INFO timing: 37.228.104.80 http://moinmo.in/action/rss_rc/MoinDev/MoinMoinLogo?diffs=1&show_att=1&action=rss_rc&unique=0&page=MoinDev%2FMoinMoinLogo&ddiffs=1 None 72.591 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12 2013-06-05T07:08:06  <ThomasWaldmann> len("!!!!") = int(time_in_seconds)
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  14 2013-06-05T07:08:37  <eSyr> how many exclamation marks.
  15 2013-06-05T07:09:07  * ThomasWaldmann did it for easier grepping of the worst stuff :)
  16 2013-06-05T07:09:41  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: yes, rss_rc is known for it's heavy queries, that's why it has rather tight surge protection limits.
  17 2013-06-05T07:10:36  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i can try to speed up it, but it would require to implement some caching mechanism. I mean, mostly relying on existing ones, but, anyway.
  18 2013-06-05T07:11:01  <ThomasWaldmann> doesn't help much, if requests come from different IPs
  19 2013-06-05T07:11:57  <eSyr> yes, sure.
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  21 2013-06-05T07:12:47  <eSyr> mostly it's the same problem as with RecentChanges and other history-related stuff - we need some indexing for event log.
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  23 2013-06-05T07:13:48  <eSyr> uh-huh, i wish i'd have some additional 12-24 hours in a day -_-
  24 2013-06-05T07:17:52  * ThomasWaldmann increased rss_rc surge protection to (1, 300)
  25 2013-06-05T07:19:10  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, i'm against making linkto-search to be normal link (by default) - i'm using this functionality quite frequently, at least on my installations.
  26 2013-06-05T07:19:20  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: btw, using xapian helps alot.
  27 2013-06-05T07:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> i know, but it also should be usable without
  28 2013-06-05T07:20:24  * eSyr got huge speedup after enabling xapian on site with ~2000 pages, almost the same as after deleting 90% of 60k spam users
  29 2013-06-05T07:20:41  <ThomasWaldmann> another option would be to somehow use js to create that link, so a crawler that doesn't do js won't get it
  30 2013-06-05T07:20:42  <eSyr> well, simple search doesn't scales well :(
  31 2013-06-05T07:20:57  <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: nofollow, maybe?
  32 2013-06-05T07:21:10  <ThomasWaldmann> they ignore it, we already have that
  33 2013-06-05T07:21:17  <eSyr> he.
  34 2013-06-05T07:21:19  <ThomasWaldmann> same for robots.txt entry
  35 2013-06-05T07:21:23  <eSyr> bad crawler.
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  40 2013-06-05T07:39:07  <sharky93> moin
  41 2013-06-05T07:41:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin sharky93
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  43 2013-06-05T07:46:50  <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, how should we check whether the access is by itemid or revid or by name ?
  44 2013-06-05T07:47:41  <ThomasWaldmann> all names live in a namespace, so ...
  45 2013-06-05T07:51:54  <ashutosh1461> and differentiating between itemid and revid ?
  46 2013-06-05T08:03:11  <ashutosh1461> i mean should we use a +/- type identifier or check every time whether the input can correspond to a valid itemid / revid ?
  47 2013-06-05T08:04:36  <ThomasWaldmann> well, how about just seeing itemid as a different kind of name, living in a different namespace?
  48 2013-06-05T08:10:28  <ashutosh1461> but we would still have to identify the namespace the input belongs to.
  49 2013-06-05T08:18:29  <ashutosh1461> and i mailed you the key :)
  50 2013-06-05T08:21:30  <ThomasWaldmann> the namespace would be part of "the input"
  51 2013-06-05T08:22:16  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, i got some keys to install, maybe later today
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  53 2013-06-05T08:55:14  <sharky93> http://coding.fm/ - this one :)
  54 2013-06-05T09:09:52  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: i don't hear anything there. should there be some sound?
  55 2013-06-05T09:09:59  <sharky93> yes
  56 2013-06-05T09:14:29  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann ^, it is using the SoundCloud api to play
  57 2013-06-05T09:22:58  <ThomasWaldmann> well, just another unusable *.fm site (after di.fm worked ok for a long time, their new site doesn't)
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  65 2013-06-05T10:08:17  <SunuTheNinja> Hmm.. I hear the sound of key strokes on coding.fm. but that's not really funny :-|
  66 2013-06-05T10:13:51  <SunuTheNinja> sharky93: FYI, pycon registrations are open now
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  68 2013-06-05T10:17:42  <sharky93> SunuTheNinja, i see you rejoined the ninja clan :D
  69 2013-06-05T10:30:11  <SunuTheNinja> hehe :-P
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  82 2013-06-05T13:40:14  <dreimark> eSyr: if you find that feature for another 12 hours share it with me
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  85 2013-06-05T14:06:39  <eSyr> dreimark: for sure.
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