1 2013-06-21T07:53:19 *** ashutosh1461
2 2013-06-21T08:00:17 <ashutosh1461> moin
3 2013-06-21T09:16:26 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
4 2013-06-21T09:18:37 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: what precisely is the question about frameworks?
5 2013-06-21T09:19:30 *** ashutosh1461
6 2013-06-21T09:27:51 <TheSheep> not much progress on the issue on github, except for some +1s
7 2013-06-21T09:37:35 <ashu1461> ThomasWaldmann, please review https://codereview.appspot.com/10439044/ when free!
8 2013-06-21T10:02:28 <ThomasWaldmann> ashu1461: looking....
9 2013-06-21T10:03:13 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: TheSheep: can we evaluate it from the what-if perspective?
10 2013-06-21T10:03:35 <ThomasWaldmann> like "what could possibly be wrong with choosing framework X"?
11 2013-06-21T10:05:24 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: sure
12 2013-06-21T10:05:47 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: you have time now?
13 2013-06-21T10:06:06 <ThomasWaldmann> a bit, but likely not for too long
14 2013-06-21T10:08:16 <TheSheep> http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-ui <-- I will put what I think on the etherpad around line 45
15 2013-06-21T10:09:47 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
16 2013-06-21T10:36:03 *** greg_f
17 2013-06-21T10:52:03 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: one thing that I'm in particular concerned about is the websites like wiki.ubuntu.com or wiki.gnom.org that require a lot of branding
18 2013-06-21T10:52:10 <TheSheep> gnome.org
19 2013-06-21T11:03:23 <ashu1461> ThomasWaldmann, did you have a look ?
20 2013-06-21T11:24:09 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: activity on your EP :)
21 2013-06-21T11:33:27 *** brunomartin
22 2013-06-21T11:41:55 <ThomasWaldmann> ashu1461: still at it. you can work in parallel on your etherpad, doing more research / making things more precise there (and clean up)
23 2013-06-21T11:44:36 <ThomasWaldmann> ashu1461: is your werkzeug/flask the latest version? if not, upgrade before doing anything else.
24 2013-06-21T11:45:39 <ashu1461> ThomasWaldmann, i upgraded it yesterday, ran the tests after that
25 2013-06-21T11:46:09 <ThomasWaldmann> so which version is werkzeug / flask?
26 2013-06-21T11:49:08 <TheSheep> sharky93: can you also make the mockup with jquery-mobile?
27 2013-06-21T11:49:21 <ashu1461> flask 0.9, Werkzeug==0.8.3
28 2013-06-21T11:49:58 <ThomasWaldmann> 89 'Flask>=0.10', # micro framework
29 2013-06-21T11:50:06 <ThomasWaldmann> 98 'Werkzeug>=0.9', # wsgi toolkit
30 2013-06-21T11:50:12 <ThomasWaldmann> (from the current setup.py)
31 2013-06-21T11:50:53 <ThomasWaldmann> the version is important as they fixed some char representations in the path
32 2013-06-21T11:51:02 <ThomasWaldmann> so no %2B any more, but +
33 2013-06-21T11:51:15 <ThomasWaldmann> (as it was in earlier times, before they broke it)
34 2013-06-21T11:51:16 <ashu1461> did pip install --upgrade -e . in the installation directory yesterday
35 2013-06-21T11:51:36 <ThomasWaldmann> then your code is not uptodate or you did some other mistake
36 2013-06-21T11:51:45 <ashu1461> ok, i will fix it up
37 2013-06-21T11:51:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (activated the right virtual environment ?)
38 2013-06-21T11:52:00 <ashu1461> yes
39 2013-06-21T11:52:42 <ashu1461> can we use '@' instead of %40 ?
40 2013-06-21T11:55:19 <sharky93> TheSheep: yes i think i should start in parallel with that
41 2013-06-21T11:55:47 <sharky93> moin, btw :)
42 2013-06-21T11:55:52 <sharky93> i was away earlier.
43 2013-06-21T12:05:20 <ashu1461> ThomasWaldmann, Flask==0.10.1, Werkzeug==0.9.1 updated
44 2013-06-21T12:05:39 <ashu1461> the tests still pas
45 2013-06-21T12:05:44 <ashu1461> pass*
46 2013-06-21T12:08:44 *** ana_ananasova
47 2013-06-21T12:28:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ashu1461: i know + works now, not sure about @ (but it should work, theoretically)
48 2013-06-21T12:36:37 <ThomasWaldmann> ashu1461: partial review done
49 2013-06-21T12:40:38 <sharky93> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann have you found out about any interesting website examples that already use j-m, apart from just for the mobile version of their website?
50 2013-06-21T13:23:44 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I made a mockup with bootstrap: http://icon.sheep.art.pl/moin/
51 2013-06-21T13:25:44 <sharky93> TheSheep: how much time did it take to make that ?
52 2013-06-21T13:26:19 <TheSheep> about an hour
53 2013-06-21T13:26:56 <sharky93> TheSheep: it looks really nice!
54 2013-06-21T13:27:21 <sharky93> right tools in the hands of the right people :P
55 2013-06-21T13:30:17 <TheSheep> well, I'm familiar with Bootstrap because we are using it at my work
56 2013-06-21T13:32:25 <sharky93> TheSheep: hmm, btw i feel this is a better layout too, a better mix of Modernized and FooBar.
57 2013-06-21T13:33:11 <TheSheep> sharky93: actually, let me change something
58 2013-06-21T13:36:47 <TheSheep> now, it better reflects which menu does things to which part of the site
59 2013-06-21T13:52:31 <sharky93> yeah, impressive!
60 2013-06-21T14:12:36 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: looks great (and simple :). if they just would get their license sorted...
61 2013-06-21T14:13:40 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: i found some "top XX framework site and they listed bootstrap, foundation and jquery-mobile on a quite high ranking"
62 2013-06-21T14:14:07 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: do we have any friends over @ bootstrap who could tell about any probable release date of Bootstrap v3?
63 2013-06-21T14:14:21 <ThomasWaldmann> not me
64 2013-06-21T14:14:54 <sharky93> TheSheep: ^^
65 2013-06-21T14:22:48 <TheSheep> me neither
66 2013-06-21T14:25:11 <sharky93> and the confusion increases
67 2013-06-21T14:38:34 <ana_ananasova> waldi, ThomasWaldmann made some modifications (discarding the search by query) (lines 103:137) http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-mail
68 2013-06-21T14:39:31 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: looks like all their reference website on the jqm homepage are mobile pages. i am also interested in seeing some more complex (desktop) site.
69 2013-06-21T15:11:08 * ThomasWaldmann bbl
70 2013-06-21T15:16:41 *** diofeher
71 2013-06-21T15:23:09 *** diofeher
72 2013-06-21T15:37:27 *** ananasss
73 2013-06-21T15:37:33 *** ananasss
74 2013-06-21T16:23:32 <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: PR https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/pull-request/169/split-tickethtml-into-ticket-base-submit/diff
75 2013-06-21T16:49:10 <ashu1461> ThomasWaldmann, checked '@' doesnot work in latest Flask/Werkzeug
76 2013-06-21T17:13:27 *** ashu1461
77 2013-06-21T17:26:24 *** ashu1461
78 2013-06-21T17:36:55 *** greg_f
79 2013-06-21T17:42:42 *** ashu1461
80 2013-06-21T17:43:18 *** ashu1461
81 2013-06-21T18:21:07 <sharky93> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann so folks over @ jQuery suggest that j-m just works for Desktop's .. and from the response there, i dont think anyone has come across a complex desktop website which uses jQuery-M
82 2013-06-21T18:21:16 <sharky93> i mean #jquery.
83 2013-06-21T18:21:52 <sharky93> -_-
84 2013-06-21T18:22:27 *** H0arry
85 2013-06-21T18:27:34 *** H0arry
86 2013-06-21T18:33:48 <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: TheSheep the jquery forums @ http://forum.jquery.com/topic/usage-in-a-full-fledged-desktop-site
87 2013-06-21T21:05:15 * ashu1461 says gn
88 2013-06-21T21:05:16 *** ashu1461
89 2013-06-21T21:15:30 <spy_> ReimarBauer: ThomasWaldmann: http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-commenting replied in purple
90 2013-06-21T21:29:27 *** bilal
91 2013-06-21T21:55:52 <ThomasWaldmann> re
92 2013-06-21T21:57:33 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: that it somehow works was not the question, the question was rather about more-complex-than-typical-mobile sites
93 2013-06-21T22:00:02 <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: ok, read it.
94 2013-06-21T22:50:06 <ThomasWaldmann> spy_: replied on EP
