MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2013-07-05

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  29 2013-07-05T07:19:48  <sharky93> moin
  30 2013-07-05T07:20:33  <TheSheep> sharky93: hey, how's the coding going?
  31 2013-07-05T07:20:50  <sharky93> TheSheep: hi, i got the AJAX going on for searches
  32 2013-07-05T07:21:08  <sharky93> TheSheep: there's a cr up for review, @ https://codereview.appspot.com/10935045/
  33 2013-07-05T07:21:11  <TheSheep> I will be probably able to review tomorrow
  34 2013-07-05T07:21:17  <sharky93> hmm
  35 2013-07-05T07:21:22  <TheSheep> on the moin sprint
  36 2013-07-05T07:21:29  <TheSheep> so don't let me block you
  37 2013-07-05T07:21:29  <sharky93> oh nice! :)
  38 2013-07-05T07:21:43  <sharky93> yeah, im working on getting the ngrams working
  39 2013-07-05T07:21:55  <sharky93> and the suggestions
  40 2013-07-05T07:23:04  <sharky93> TheSheep: you are done with your presentation?
  41 2013-07-05T07:23:27  <TheSheep> no, it's in 15 minutes
  42 2013-07-05T07:23:38  <sharky93> heh
  43 2013-07-05T07:23:39  <sharky93> :)
  44 2013-07-05T07:23:42  <TheSheep> they moved it to the main room
  45 2013-07-05T07:23:55  <sharky93> ok
  46 2013-07-05T07:24:14  <sharky93> TheSheep: when you feel free, please take a look @ the etherpad @ http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-ui
  47 2013-07-05T07:24:36  <TheSheep> ok
  48 2013-07-05T07:24:42  <sharky93> TheSheep: i'm updating stuff i do there, and any suggestions would be helpful
  49 2013-07-05T07:29:22  <sharky93> TheSheep: best of luck for the presentation :)
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  53 2013-07-05T10:04:21  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
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  56 2013-07-05T11:27:19  <ananasova> waldi: could you please review the latest crs? i've made updates to https://codereview.appspot.com/10716043/ and https://codereview.appspot.com/10843043/
  57 2013-07-05T11:27:54  <ananasova> waldi: and also created a new cr - https://codereview.appspot.com/10961043/
  58 2013-07-05T11:36:11  <waldi> ananasova: please write full messages that show what is done and why it is done
  59 2013-07-05T11:36:25  <waldi> more needed is: why is it done
  60 2013-07-05T11:36:46  <waldi> and don't split stuff, aka use one entry in the user object for all subscriptions
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  62 2013-07-05T11:51:26  <ananasova> waldi: the decision with splitting up the subscriptions was discussed on EP (lines 40:85): http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-mail
  63 2013-07-05T11:53:20  <waldi> i don't see a discussion, nor a rationale or even a usability check
  64 2013-07-05T11:56:47  <ananasova> i have removed the majority of comments. i guess those can be reviewed via the EP timeline.
  65 2013-07-05T12:00:59  <waldi> then you have to document it in the code at least, because it is far from intuitive
  66 2013-07-05T12:02:42  <ananasova> in the docstring for subscribe method there are some explanations on the ways how to subscribe - https://codereview.appspot.com/10843043/patch/12001/3002
  67 2013-07-05T12:03:27  <waldi> it does not describe why
  68 2013-07-05T12:05:14  <ananasova> where do you think is the appropriate place to give why explanations? method docstrings? final documentation?
  69 2013-07-05T12:06:27  <waldi> okay, i can't find a rationale in the ER
  70 2013-07-05T12:07:27  <ananasova> what is ER?
  71 2013-07-05T12:07:37  <waldi> upe, EP
  72 2013-07-05T12:14:20  <ananasova> I am writing now on lines 87:88 on EP an explanation
  73 2013-07-05T12:14:55  <waldi> okay. how would you describe to a user that the same ("subscription") needs to be put into different fields?
  74 2013-07-05T12:16:51  <ananasova> when user clicks subscribe, then we subscribe him by itemid
  75 2013-07-05T12:17:16  <ananasova> for all other cases we need to offer him an interface on the settings page
  76 2013-07-05T12:18:01  <ananasova> where he will get the alternative to subscribe to a tag (as i recall that was even a proposal from moin users)
  77 2013-07-05T12:18:46  <ananasova> the name subscription might be useful for migrating old subscriptions.
  78 2013-07-05T12:19:34  <ananasova> and then user can subscribe via a regexp (smth familiar to users) and a nameprefix.
  79 2013-07-05T12:20:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ER is the emergency room :P
  80 2013-07-05T12:20:45  <ananasova> the settings page might get too complex considering all the options, so we should think of a user-friendly way to handle all this
  81 2013-07-05T12:21:08  <ThomasWaldmann> both lists could be unified, but then you'ld need to skip some stuff for algo A and some for algo B
  82 2013-07-05T12:21:52  <ananasova> i.e. eliminate all the non NAMERE and NAMEPREFIX before compiling the patterns
  83 2013-07-05T12:22:40  <waldi> okay, i see the assumed problem
  84 2013-07-05T12:23:44  <waldi> this is called premature optimization
  85 2013-07-05T12:23:59  <waldi> you change the data structure to fit your alorithm
  86 2013-07-05T12:24:11  <waldi> problem: this data structure is never used in the algorythm
  87 2013-07-05T12:24:55  <waldi> all queries are done against an index. data pushed into the index have to fulfill the needs for the algorithm, not the input
  88 2013-07-05T12:26:10  <ThomasWaldmann> whoosh will index a list of ids automatically, but whoosh won't dissect the list, we would have to do that beforehands
  89 2013-07-05T12:26:13  <waldi> ananasova: i assumed a used who changes the meta data by hand. you can't just change a "name" to a "namere", even if they look pretty similar, and for the user have the same meening
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  91 2013-07-05T12:26:43  <waldi> s,used,user,
  92 2013-07-05T12:29:24  <ananasova> what is valid for a "name" will be also valid for "namere", but the search performance will change. so actually from user point of view, that can be pretty much the same.
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 114 2013-07-05T13:16:47  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: after updating the schema for indexes, should update indexes work? or i will have to build the indexes again?
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 139 2013-07-05T15:15:57  * sharky93 tests ngram'ed search
 140 2013-07-05T15:16:17  <sharky93> It works! :)
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