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   2 2013-07-21T03:50:54  * xiaq might be outside and unable to attend meeting at 10am utc :-|
   3 2013-07-21T07:15:36  <sharky93> moin
   4 2013-07-21T07:24:20  <ananasova> moin
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   6 2013-07-21T08:11:24  <sharky93> TheSheep: test for the htmlout conv. @ https://codereview.appspot.com/11650043
   7 2013-07-21T08:12:11  <sharky93> TheSheep: test for rst_in .. patchset 2 @ https://codereview.appspot.com/11627043/#ps3001
   8 2013-07-21T08:36:43  <TheSheep> looking
   9 2013-07-21T08:54:05  <TheSheep> sharky93: using regex for modifying xml, seriously?
  10 2013-07-21T08:55:09  <sharky93> TheSheep: that had been used at multiple places in other tests, and its a simple version i think
  11 2013-07-21T08:55:37  <TheSheep> sharky93: what if that text that you are replacing appears in some other places too?
  12 2013-07-21T08:55:43  <TheSheep> sharky93: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454
  13 2013-07-21T08:57:35  <sharky93> TheSheep: true. but it serves out purpose for the test, no?
  14 2013-07-21T08:58:53  <sharky93> #SO that is an awesome answer! :o
  15 2013-07-21T08:59:25  <TheSheep> sharky93: can you at least try to find a way to do it correctly? It's true that a bad test is better than no test, so if you can't find a better way, it can stay, but if you looked for an hour or two?
  16 2013-07-21T09:01:48  <sharky93> TheSheep: umm, you mean just for the test_image test or for rst_in too.. since rst_in, moinwiki many others employ the same regex method?
  17 2013-07-21T09:04:16  <TheSheep> once you find a better solution, it can be employed all over
  18 2013-07-21T09:04:52  <sharky93> ok, looking
  19 2013-07-21T09:16:26  <sharky93> TheSheep: i closed issues 2,4 @ the bootstrap fork,  added a comment for #3 and need some help with #5 :)
  20 2013-07-21T09:18:20  <TheSheep> sharky93: we have two options: do what I did with the left panel, overflow:hidden, or just let it be
  21 2013-07-21T09:18:35  <TheSheep> overflow:hidden makes it look better, but makes the text unreadable
  22 2013-07-21T09:19:17  <sharky93> TheSheep: how about increasing the column width, / breaking the line?
  23 2013-07-21T09:19:17  <TheSheep> of course the best way would be to avoid long, unbreakable text in the first place
  24 2013-07-21T09:19:46  <TheSheep> but that would need to be done on case-by-case basis
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  26 2013-07-21T09:19:53  <TheSheep> like adding a space after that comma
  27 2013-07-21T09:20:31  <TheSheep> I think that we will have to increase the width of that panel a little anyways
  28 2013-07-21T09:20:42  <TheSheep> because of the long words in German translation
  29 2013-07-21T09:21:45  <sharky93> hmm, a little should do it i think .
  30 2013-07-21T09:40:49  <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, might not be able to attend today's meeting, its an emergency here. My report on last week here https://pad.riseup.net/p/moin-itemid .
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  32 2013-07-21T09:59:06  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, who's here for the meeting? please give a life sign.
  33 2013-07-21T09:59:36  <dreimark> moin
  34 2013-07-21T09:59:50  <TheSheep> moin
  35 2013-07-21T10:00:28  <waldi> here
  36 2013-07-21T10:01:31  <sharky93> moin
  37 2013-07-21T10:01:44  <ananasova> moin
  38 2013-07-21T10:01:49  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, sharky93 and TheSheep: please begin
  39 2013-07-21T10:02:13  <sharky93> ok so
  40 2013-07-21T10:02:54  <sharky93> My contributions this week were not in a regular way but a bit scattered.
  41 2013-07-21T10:02:58  <sharky93> DONE:
  42 2013-07-21T10:03:24  <sharky93> Finializing of a basic theme @ the bootstrap fork
  43 2013-07-21T10:03:55  <sharky93> Fixed some minor issues, #2,4 almost #3 @ https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap
  44 2013-07-21T10:04:36  <sharky93> Tests for image resize, cr's @ https://codereview.appspot.com/11650043 , https://codereview.appspot.com/11627043
  45 2013-07-21T10:05:07  <sharky93> TODO:
  46 2013-07-21T10:05:51  <sharky93> Get working on the theme, asap after finalizing the tests, and pushing the commit for search functionality which has been reviewed already
  47 2013-07-21T10:06:00  <sharky93> BLOCKERS:
  48 2013-07-21T10:06:01  <sharky93> None
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  50 2013-07-21T10:06:14  <sharky93> EOF
  51 2013-07-21T10:07:31  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: is the repository containing your theme work and in a state so one can successfully run it?
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  53 2013-07-21T10:08:10  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: yes. that repo is only for the bootstrap theme, and can be run
  54 2013-07-21T10:08:34  <ThomasWaldmann> are all known issues on that issue tracker?
  55 2013-07-21T10:09:33  <sharky93> known to me, yes and i think TheSheep too.
  56 2013-07-21T10:09:38  <TheSheep> just for the main view, so far
  57 2013-07-21T10:09:48  <TheSheep> we will move on to other views as we finish this
  58 2013-07-21T10:10:04  <TheSheep> of course feel free to add issues
  59 2013-07-21T10:10:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so it is show view + theme header/footer/sidebars right now?
  60 2013-07-21T10:11:03  <TheSheep> yes
  61 2013-07-21T10:11:15  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: other views are not broken, every view will work. just have not been customised.
  62 2013-07-21T10:11:32  <sharky93> so you can feel free to browse with continuity
  63 2013-07-21T10:11:35  <sharky93> :)
  64 2013-07-21T10:11:41  <dreimark> btw. there is some movement visible on boostrap license issue
  65 2013-07-21T10:12:10  <TheSheep> yeah, hopefully they will get it sorted out
  66 2013-07-21T10:12:11  <ThomasWaldmann> ok. just as a note: i read "finializing" / "finishing" rather often recently, even for stuff that is not finished. :D
  67 2013-07-21T10:13:30  <ThomasWaldmann> I'll try the theme stuff later.
  68 2013-07-21T10:15:19  <ThomasWaldmann> and as I already said: I'ld like to have stuff committed and pushed after review before new work is done.
  69 2013-07-21T10:16:13  * sharky93 is learning to context switch
  70 2013-07-21T10:16:20  <ThomasWaldmann> whatever you have in your local repo / on codereview / whereever else and not in your public repo can't be easily tried / evaluated for midterm
  71 2013-07-21T10:16:46  <TheSheep> this is my fault for being late with reviews
  72 2013-07-21T10:17:44  <ThomasWaldmann> "and pushing the commit for search functionality which has been reviewed already" that rather sounded like it just did not get finished
  73 2013-07-21T10:19:07  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I just reviewed it today
  74 2013-07-21T10:19:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ah
  75 2013-07-21T10:19:50  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, anything else for sharky93 / TheSheep ?
  76 2013-07-21T10:20:13  <ThomasWaldmann> asingla: if you are there, you can start, otherwise I'll just paste your stuff
  77 2013-07-21T10:20:22  <ananasova> /names
  78 2013-07-21T10:20:52  * ananasova didn't mean it, just wanted to see who's on
  79 2013-07-21T10:22:19  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks to sharky93 / TheSheep. here come asingla's emergency notes:
  80 2013-07-21T10:22:32  <ThomasWaldmann> DONE THIS WEEK:-
  81 2013-07-21T10:22:33  <ThomasWaldmann> Finalized patches:-
  82 2013-07-21T10:22:33  <ThomasWaldmann> sub-items view.
  83 2013-07-21T10:22:33  <ThomasWaldmann> Added composite name support to indexing and protecting middleware files.
  84 2013-07-21T10:22:33  <ThomasWaldmann> Fqname support if field is not unique + rendering links.
  85 2013-07-21T10:22:35  <ThomasWaldmann> Repo updated to be in a working condition.
  86 2013-07-21T10:22:37  <ThomasWaldmann> In progress.
  87 2013-07-21T10:22:40  <ThomasWaldmann> patchset for handling namespace and item_root ready https://codereview.appspot.com/11584044/ (review pending).
  88 2013-07-21T10:22:43  <ThomasWaldmann> /+deleted view (finally can complete it after revert view is fixed and UI stuff has been done.)
  89 2013-07-21T10:22:46  <ThomasWaldmann> Making a changeset for different minor changes done.
  90 2013-07-21T10:22:48  <ThomasWaldmann> TODO next week:-
  91 2013-07-21T10:22:51  <ThomasWaldmann> This week shifting back from home to college, so time would be consumed in travelling and settling down.
  92 2013-07-21T10:22:54  <ThomasWaldmann> Move on to views fixing some would be easy, some need a bit of thought.
  93 2013-07-21T10:22:57  <ThomasWaldmann> Finalize them.
  94 2013-07-21T10:22:59  <ThomasWaldmann> BLOCKERS:- None
  95 2013-07-21T10:24:25  * ThomasWaldmann will try that repo later also, but yesterday it sounded rather like it is broken without extra patches.
  96 2013-07-21T10:24:43  <ThomasWaldmann> any questions about the above stuff?
  97 2013-07-21T10:25:35  <waldi> nop
  98 2013-07-21T10:25:53  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, looks like not. ananasova / waldi: you're next, please.
  99 2013-07-21T10:26:06  <ananasova> ok, starting
 100 2013-07-21T10:26:24  <ananasova> DONE:
 101 2013-07-21T10:26:29  <ananasova> * Finished with emailing tracebacks to admins
 102 2013-07-21T10:26:33  <ananasova> * Update subscription validator
 103 2013-07-21T10:26:37  <ananasova> * Indexing subscriptions list
 104 2013-07-21T10:26:43  <ananasova> * Determining subscribers list by checking also subscription_patterns
 105 2013-07-21T10:26:48  <ananasova> * Changes in views and templates where user subscription functions are used
 106 2013-07-21T10:26:53  <ananasova> * Planning on mail notifications, metadiff, mail templates
 107 2013-07-21T10:26:58  <ananasova> TODO next week:
 108 2013-07-21T10:27:03  <ananasova> * Mail notifications + mail templates
 109 2013-07-21T10:27:08  <ananasova> * Subscriptions UI in settings
 110 2013-07-21T10:27:12  <ananasova> * Planning on bounce handling
 111 2013-07-21T10:27:16  <ananasova> BLOCKERS: none
 112 2013-07-21T10:28:30  <ThomasWaldmann> 12:26  ananasova$ * Changes in views and templates where user subscription functions are used
 113 2013-07-21T10:28:37  <ThomasWaldmann> what do you mean by that precisely?
 114 2013-07-21T10:29:31  <ananasova> the definition of some method has changed: i.e. from is_subscribed_to([pagename_list]) to is_subscribed_to(item)
 115 2013-07-21T10:30:39  <ananasova> and respectively all the views that render a template that inherits from itemviews.html need to pass item object
 116 2013-07-21T10:31:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
 117 2013-07-21T10:31:44  <dreimark> that means you reviewed all stuff which created tracebacks related to sending mails to admins?
 118 2013-07-21T10:31:55  <ananasova> same is with `subscribe()` and `unsubscribe()` methods
 119 2013-07-21T10:33:04  <ananasova> dreimark: yes, there were 2 cr on that part iirc and the code was pushed to the public repo
 120 2013-07-21T10:33:27  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: in case you have some time when you can't work on more urgent stuff, it would be nice to do some performance eval with many users
 121 2013-07-21T10:33:58  <ananasova> good point. that means write some performance tests?
 122 2013-07-21T10:34:38  <dreimark> ananasova: are there tests for these changes or have you tried that manually?
 123 2013-07-21T10:35:03  <ananasova> there are simple tests for determining subscribers
 124 2013-07-21T10:35:25  <ananasova> like, one item - one subscriber
 125 2013-07-21T10:35:30  <ThomasWaldmann> yes. but as I said: that's low prio. also tests that take lots of time and are only for performance testing should be skipped in the default test run.
 126 2013-07-21T10:36:16  * ananasova puts it on todo for the next week with a low prio flag
 127 2013-07-21T10:37:31  <spy_> ThomasWaldmann: can I be next?
 128 2013-07-21T10:37:48  <ThomasWaldmann> spy_: yes, after ananasova is finished
 129 2013-07-21T10:37:55  <ThomasWaldmann> anything else for ananasova ?
 130 2013-07-21T10:38:07  <ananasova> and the public repo is good for being pulled and tested
 131 2013-07-21T10:38:57  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks ananasova, spy_ is next.
 132 2013-07-21T10:39:45  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: waldi: btw, i didn't see any bounce handling planning yet. that should be done asap or at some time you might run out of planned work.
 133 2013-07-21T10:40:25  <spy_> DONE: Start implementing view +addcomment and input form to add new comment on a particular page. Looked through the bootstrap documentation. (My grandmother died a few days ago, so there was no time for work)
 134 2013-07-21T10:40:29  <spy_> BLOCKED: nothing
 135 2013-07-21T10:40:32  <spy_> TODO: Finish views/templates to be able to create simple one-level comments.
 136 2013-07-21T10:40:37  <dreimark> to early
 137 2013-07-21T10:40:57  <dreimark> ananasova: there is a py.test option for skipping if too long time is needed
 138 2013-07-21T10:41:11  <ThomasWaldmann> spy_: oh :| sorry to hear that.
 139 2013-07-21T10:42:21  <dreimark> spy_: oha, my condolences
 140 2013-07-21T10:43:15  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ananasova have we more or can we go on with spy_ ?
 141 2013-07-21T10:43:27  <ananasova> dreimark: ok, pytest.mark.skipif i see in tests
 142 2013-07-21T10:43:55  <spy_> thank you, it is all right, will continue working
 143 2013-07-21T10:44:12  <ananasova> spy_: very sorry :(
 144 2013-07-21T10:45:15  <ThomasWaldmann> spy_: try to get some stuff done AND pushed. there isn't much visible work from you in the repo and midterm is approaching.
 145 2013-07-21T10:45:17  <spy_> should I start working on the bootstrap theme?
 146 2013-07-21T10:45:44  <ThomasWaldmann> no, please don't merge anything except main repo
 147 2013-07-21T10:46:25  <ThomasWaldmann> bootstrap is available in main repo, though, so maybe you can use some of it for content area stuff
 148 2013-07-21T10:47:57  <ThomasWaldmann> but maybe you can just get the work / data flow right now and do design stuff later
 149 2013-07-21T10:48:10  <spy_> ok, I think so too
 150 2013-07-21T10:48:21  <dreimark> spy_: try to get that flow running
 151 2013-07-21T10:48:56  <spy_> btw, I have some Comment itemtype stuff finished, but it is far from the ideal. Should I push it too?
 152 2013-07-21T10:49:22  <dreimark> can you show it please
 153 2013-07-21T10:49:47  <spy_> dreimark: https://codereview.appspot.com/10761044/
 154 2013-07-21T10:50:16  <spy_> now I'm working on top of this patch
 155 2013-07-21T10:50:36  <dreimark> thomas added a question to that
 156 2013-07-21T10:51:13  <dreimark> the things you know are not best solved, have they ToDo markers?
 157 2013-07-21T10:52:49  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: are you still away?
 158 2013-07-21T10:53:16  <spy_> dreimark: there are a lot of todo stuff all the time))
 159 2013-07-21T10:54:29  <dreimark> spy_: commit it, I guess you refactor it in the next weeks
 160 2013-07-21T10:55:06  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, xiaq is still away, but didn't commit anything recently anyway. some work on codereview.
 161 2013-07-21T10:58:39  <ThomasWaldmann> for all students: we'll begin doing/submitting midterm evals at july 29th, so try to have stuff in a good state and try to have all the work you've done somehow reflected in the repo or (if it was not coding work) in the calendar entries or in documentation
 162 2013-07-21T11:00:18  <ThomasWaldmann> the deadline for mentors to submit midterm evals is Aug 2nd 19:00 UTC (but, as usual, don't rely on melange being stable in the last hours before the deadline)
 163 2013-07-21T11:00:59  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, anything else?
 164 2013-07-21T11:02:41  <ThomasWaldmann> meeting is over, thanks to everybody who managed to be here.
 165 2013-07-21T11:21:44  <TheSheep> thanks
 166 2013-07-21T11:22:15  <dreimark> :)
 167 2013-07-21T11:55:18  <sharky93> TheSheep: some notes on the test, need your final comment on this
 168 2013-07-21T11:55:23  <sharky93> TheSheep: @ http://pastebin.com/ie8fErUw
 169 2013-07-21T11:57:34  <TheSheep> sharky93: I was rather thinking about finding an option in the xml library to do that without a regexp
 170 2013-07-21T12:01:12  <sharky93> TheSheep: im not too sure if that can be done at all, since the 'xmlns' attribute is put into the string at the time of writing, there's functions for editing attributes for nodes, but xmlns is not a part when it is in the tree form
 171 2013-07-21T12:08:20  <TheSheep> sharky93: you can look into that library's source code
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 174 2013-07-21T12:51:45  <moin4> recently, my wiki server performance is getting worse and worse
 175 2013-07-21T12:52:32  <moin4> i found server process was in forever loop to read data/event and another log file in data dir
 176 2013-07-21T12:52:54  <moin4> can some one shed some light on this, thanks,
 177 2013-07-21T12:54:33  <TheSheep> moin4: wrong channel
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 179 2013-07-21T14:37:13  <ThomasWaldmann> oh, we have a release of whoosh 2.5 since July 2nd
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 181 2013-07-21T14:52:53  <sharky93> TheSheep: i had a look at the emeraldtree code, there's not a good way to achieve what we want, it has to have the namespace string with "xmlns" in only the root node ..
 182 2013-07-21T14:53:55  <sharky93> TheSheep: what we could realistically do is set a test flag and not allow it to write that? but is that a better method than using a simple regex? or rather needs to be done? im not sure.
 183 2013-07-21T14:55:27  <TheSheep> sharky93: how about having a root node?
 184 2013-07-21T14:55:55  <TheSheep> sharky93: and then just serializing a subtree without that node?
 185 2013-07-21T14:59:53  <sharky93> TheSheep: when we serialize, it first gathers namespace info about the whole tree, and writes that in the root node. (putting it in a crude way)
 186 2013-07-21T15:02:51  <sharky93> TheSheep: so we somehow have to stop the writing of that info, in the string we get back .., no?
 187 2013-07-21T15:05:01  <TheSheep> I don't think it hurts if it's just in a single node
 188 2013-07-21T15:06:57  * ThomasWaldmann gtg / bbl
 189 2013-07-21T15:35:26  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: comments required on the new MoinMoin.schema package https://codereview.appspot.com/10889044/
 190 2013-07-21T16:24:38  <sharky93> re
 191 2013-07-21T16:25:16  <sharky93> TheSheep: hmm, so we leave it as it is ?, commit?
 192 2013-07-21T16:35:26  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: did you anything else than moving the code?
 193 2013-07-21T16:36:51  <TheSheep> sharky93: without the regexp
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 196 2013-07-21T18:03:30  <sharky93> TheSheep: without the regexp @ https://codereview.appspot.com/11650043/ . Though i haven't changed rst_in. removing regex from there will lead to changes in all current tests.
 197 2013-07-21T18:05:21  <TheSheep> sharky93: remove the import
 198 2013-07-21T18:05:54  <sharky93> oh right, sry.
 199 2013-07-21T18:13:52  <TheSheep> sharky93: otherwise it's good
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 201 2013-07-21T18:20:46  <sharky93> TheSheep: so with the tests done.. i'll commit the search sometime later , what's next?
 202 2013-07-21T18:24:01  <TheSheep> sharky93: the editor maybe?
 203 2013-07-21T18:24:27  <TheSheep> I mean the "modify" view
 204 2013-07-21T18:25:22  <sharky93> TheSheep: hmm, okay. how should we go about developing that view?
 205 2013-07-21T18:25:53  <sharky93> any suggested workflows?
 206 2013-07-21T18:36:41  <TheSheep> sharky93: it's up to you
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 234 2013-07-21T20:20:38  <dreimark> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBL1cVzIQik
 235 2013-07-21T20:20:46  <dreimark> some ideas for Nonlinear Revision Control for Images
 236 2013-07-21T20:21:14  <dreimark> also the ui looks nice
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