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   3 2013-07-25T07:07:24  <ananasova> moin
   4 2013-07-25T07:31:27  <sharky93> TheSheep: please please have a look at the modify view now
   5 2013-07-25T08:09:48  <sharky93> strikeout any one 'please' :P .. seems a bit odd, just noticed now, ^ :)
   6 2013-07-25T08:10:26  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: can you please fix the trivial to fix issues from your issue tracker?
   7 2013-07-25T08:14:38  <sharky93> right :), i think many are fixed now. let me check.
   8 2013-07-25T08:22:04  <ThomasWaldmann> if the bb issue tracker would suck less, one could declare difficulty, effort and severity separately ...
   9 2013-07-25T08:23:14  <ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: left some comments here https://codereview.appspot.com/11709044/
  10 2013-07-25T08:34:43  <ananasova> and uploaded a patch to this issue
  11 2013-07-25T08:42:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ananasova: review done
  12 2013-07-25T08:44:39  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: i cannot reproduce #19, could you attach a screenshot?
  13 2013-07-25T08:50:17  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: ff22 on linux
  14 2013-07-25T08:51:15  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: and no, i can't, because the mouseover goes away in the moment i try to screenshot it ;)
  15 2013-07-25T08:59:16  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: hmm, checked now with my ff22, it also goes away if you click anywhere else. that is soo weird.
  16 2013-07-25T08:59:59  <sharky93> :/
  17 2013-07-25T09:17:14  <ThomasWaldmann> it is same for the horizontal bar if you stay on same page (# link)
  18 2013-07-25T09:17:34  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. click on Transclusions
  19 2013-07-25T09:20:06  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ^
  20 2013-07-25T09:20:17  * ThomasWaldmann brb
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  22 2013-07-25T09:53:35  * ashutosh1461 is back and works on the issues in his tracker.
  23 2013-07-25T09:53:51  <ThomasWaldmann> wb ashutosh1461 :)
  24 2013-07-25T09:54:36  <ashutosh1461> long ride it was, took about 36 hours from home to college :)
  25 2013-07-25T09:58:22  <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann,  please review https://codereview.appspot.com/11584044/
  26 2013-07-25T10:21:16  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: interesting development about the license
  27 2013-07-25T10:21:20  <TheSheep> The FSF said the GPLv2 and ALv2 are incompatible. The Apache Software Foundation believes they are compatible. We just gave up on that argument with them ... the FSF can think/say whatever they like.
  28 2013-07-25T10:22:06  <ThomasWaldmann> Nothing new. Nothing really helpful.
  29 2013-07-25T10:23:46  <TheSheep> I didn't realize that the Apache Foundation said it's compatibl
  30 2013-07-25T10:23:48  <TheSheep> e
  31 2013-07-25T10:31:07  <ThomasWaldmann> not sure if that's really documented somewhere, but I also heard someone (Greg?) saying that they won't sue anyone due to that "incompatibility" (or non-...)
  32 2013-07-25T10:32:15  <ThomasWaldmann> but if 2 involved parties disagree, it is not that helpful if just one says that there is no problem.
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  36 2013-07-25T11:32:38  <ThomasWaldmann> ashutosh1461: done
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  40 2013-07-25T12:45:43  <sharky93> TheSheep: can we close #16 now?
  41 2013-07-25T12:48:18  <TheSheep> sharky93: move the tabs to the bottom?
  42 2013-07-25T12:50:12  <sharky93> TheSheep: yeah i didnt really understand that, bottom? so for switching to the meta input form we'll have to scroll all the way down?
  43 2013-07-25T12:51:59  <TheSheep> hmm, maybe not the best idea with the autoresized textarea
  44 2013-07-25T12:52:06  <TheSheep> ok, close it
  45 2013-07-25T12:53:04  <TheSheep> sharky93: border-color: rgba(82, 168, 236, 0.8); <-- what if someone customizes his bootstrap and uses a different color?
  46 2013-07-25T12:57:04  <sharky93> TheSheep: well, im not too sure, still think that its better to let them decide on their own about features which bootstrap doesnt provide ..
  47 2013-07-25T13:03:05  <TheSheep> sharky93: whom?
  48 2013-07-25T13:09:24  <sharky93> TheSheep: that someone who customises his bootstrap
  49 2013-07-25T13:13:00  <TheSheep> sharky93: so right now, if I set the main color of bootstrap to, say, orange, I will still have blue outlines for the tabs
  50 2013-07-25T13:13:22  <TheSheep> sharky93: unless I manually patch my MoinMoin installation
  51 2013-07-25T13:13:31  <TheSheep> sharky93: that's unacceptable
  52 2013-07-25T13:15:59  <sharky93> TheSheep: hmmm, sounds worse told this way :)
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  54 2013-07-25T13:19:24  <sharky93> TheSheep: about #17, with the problm about width of the input fields, that is off, right?
  55 2013-07-25T13:21:04  <TheSheep> sharky93: you accidentally a verb
  56 2013-07-25T13:22:43  * sharky93 is confused
  57 2013-07-25T13:24:10  * TheSheep is too
  58 2013-07-25T13:24:31  <TheSheep> sharky93: in English, sentences don't make sense unless they have a verb in them
  59 2013-07-25T13:25:13  <sharky93> TheSheep: did i make a sentence make sense without it? :o
  60 2013-07-25T13:25:24  <TheSheep> it only makes sense to you
  61 2013-07-25T13:25:37  <sharky93> which one :P ?
  62 2013-07-25T13:25:42  <TheSheep> 15:19 < sharky93> TheSheep: about #17, with the problm about width of the input  fields, that is off, right?
  63 2013-07-25T13:27:07  <TheSheep> can you rephrase it?
  64 2013-07-25T13:27:14  <sharky93> right, i think 'off' is in some sense the verb :P ..
  65 2013-07-25T13:27:17  <sharky93> yeah sure
  66 2013-07-25T13:28:10  <sharky93> i just meant, does the proposal still hold? (#17)
  67 2013-07-25T13:28:32  <TheSheep> "is" is a verb, but it's in a sub-sentence
  68 2013-07-25T13:29:16  <TheSheep> sharky93: as long as it will adapt to narrow screens by putting them one under the other, it will still be better
  69 2013-07-25T13:29:23  <TheSheep> sharky93: and I think it will work that way
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  71 2013-07-25T13:30:38  <sharky93> TheSheep: the comment field, i think later we may have to make the width a lot more than the current value
  72 2013-07-25T13:30:53  <sharky93> *about the
  73 2013-07-25T13:31:37  <sharky93> TheSheep: sorry, i meant the summary field
  74 2013-07-25T13:31:40  <TheSheep> sharky93: the comment field is already fullscreen?
  75 2013-07-25T13:31:55  <TheSheep> sharky93: perhaps a textarea?
  76 2013-07-25T13:32:36  <sharky93> TheSheep: i think we do not want multiple lines with the summary.
  77 2013-07-25T13:33:05  <TheSheep> it can wrap
  78 2013-07-25T13:33:10  <TheSheep> also, why not?
  79 2013-07-25T13:34:09  <sharky93> perhaps a summary should be as short as possible?, still does not justify the one line.
  80 2013-07-25T13:34:15  <sharky93> hmm, perhaps a textarea.
  81 2013-07-25T13:36:13  <sharky93> TheSheep: ThomasWaldmann also suggested about the width on #17 so that they take all that is. Perhaps a textarea is the best way forward..
  82 2013-07-25T13:36:45  <TheSheep> try it and see
  83 2013-07-25T13:36:57  <TheSheep> if it doesn't work, you can always go back
  84 2013-07-25T13:39:17  <sharky93> TheSheep: any preferences on the auto-resize plugin, i think we should finish this view completely.
  85 2013-07-25T13:39:20  <sharky93> ?
  86 2013-07-25T13:40:02  <TheSheep> sharky93: do the research on this, as you did for js i18n
  87 2013-07-25T13:40:14  <sharky93> ok :)
  88 2013-07-25T13:40:18  <TheSheep> sharky93: put it on the wiki
  89 2013-07-25T13:40:23  <TheSheep> or in a ticket
  90 2013-07-25T13:42:49  * ThomasWaldmann repeats himself: can we close the simple bugs. like changing 2 wrong words?
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  92 2013-07-25T13:44:53  <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/issue/12/site-actions-title-is-misleading
  93 2013-07-25T13:46:29  <sharky93> ^ this turned yellow on my irrsi :o without the tag, ThomasWaldmann how did you do that?
  94 2013-07-25T13:46:45  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: im not too sure of the replacement word
  95 2013-07-25T13:46:53  <ThomasWaldmann> because you tag everything with sharky93 in it?
  96 2013-07-25T13:47:13  <ThomasWaldmann> see there, your choice is ok
  97 2013-07-25T13:47:27  <sharky93> oh, i missed the link. i just thought its a link :)
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  99 2013-07-25T13:58:48  * ThomasWaldmann reopened https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/issue/19/small-cosmetic-issue-with-tabs-in-modify
 100 2013-07-25T14:00:51  * sharky93 thanks ThomasWaldmann :)
 101 2013-07-25T14:01:21  <ThomasWaldmann> https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/commits/a06f66ebef6946077ee1a65752e61fe1e4ae5288
 102 2013-07-25T14:01:58  <ThomasWaldmann> ^ if you do css, have some style. i.e. have a blank after the colon. as you see 3 lines below in existing css.
 103 2013-07-25T14:02:23  <sharky93> oh, right. thanks
 104 2013-07-25T14:02:30  <ThomasWaldmann> such stuff can usually found by looking at hg diff before committing...
 105 2013-07-25T14:03:22  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: most probably #19 is a bug or a missing feature in bootstrap, there is one more with the active state of tabs and its effect on icons.
 106 2013-07-25T14:03:44  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: an upgrade in the package would help i guess
 107 2013-07-25T14:04:35  <sharky93> ^^^ i'll be more careful, henceforth
 108 2013-07-25T14:04:36  <ThomasWaldmann> beat the package maintainer. maybe if multiple people do...
 109 2013-07-25T14:05:25  <ThomasWaldmann> hah, the ugly metadata fix was easy :P
 110 2013-07-25T14:05:38  <sharky93> :P
 111 2013-07-25T14:07:15  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: can we ignore #19 till then?, installing chromium is easier ;)
 112 2013-07-25T14:08:25  <ThomasWaldmann> till when?
 113 2013-07-25T14:08:37  <sharky93> till the package upgrade?
 114 2013-07-25T14:08:59  <ThomasWaldmann> that's a rather unspecific time.
 115 2013-07-25T14:09:33  <sharky93> if they dont give us a package, maybe we'll build one, but i think its trivial now.
 116 2013-07-25T14:09:47  <ThomasWaldmann> but if you make sure you are doing nothing wrong and we suspect it really is a bootstrap bug, then it would be ok of course
 117 2013-07-25T14:10:24  <ThomasWaldmann> you could also just locally copy the new bootstrap files over the old ones to try
 118 2013-07-25T14:10:34  <sharky93> if something was wrong with our code, it hink all browsers would depict that, no?
 119 2013-07-25T14:10:39  <sharky93> *think
 120 2013-07-25T14:10:59  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe, maybe not
 121 2013-07-25T14:11:53  <sharky93> right. i think i'll give the local copy a try later.
 122 2013-07-25T14:24:17  * sharky93 feels like a resolver ninja :D
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 124 2013-07-25T15:19:05  <sharky93> while commenting here https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/issue/14/modify-view-double-scrollbars about autoResize plugins, i was rather amused that the textarea i was writing into didnt resize automatically :P
 125 2013-07-25T15:26:53  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: can you edit your comment again and format it in a way so that the markup is correct? use preview...
 126 2013-07-25T15:27:39  * xiaq has some problems with xstatic packaging
 127 2013-07-25T15:28:20  <xiaq> got ImportError when doing `python setup.py sdist`
 128 2013-07-25T15:30:11  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: http://rn0.ru/show/F6s6oEtmTmuePkwD5ai3/
 129 2013-07-25T15:30:41  <xiaq> that's building an unmodified xstatic-jquery package, so it shouldn't be the package that has gone wrong...
 130 2013-07-25T15:32:59  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: there is a xstatic-jquery package, so why do you need a selfmade one?
 131 2013-07-25T15:34:10  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: no, the point is that the package can't be wrong :)
 132 2013-07-25T15:34:32  <xiaq> i think i somehow found what is wrong...
 133 2013-07-25T15:35:05  <xiaq> i have installed xstatic-datatables built by myself, using pip install --user, so my ~/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages looks like this http://rn0.ru/show/vIq2D3CupYqni5jaY2i9/
 134 2013-07-25T15:36:01  <xiaq> and when i try to build xstatic-jquery, `from xstatic.pkg import jquery as xs` only tries the xstatic package under ~/.local/lib/python2.7/site-packages, not under current directory...`
 135 2013-07-25T15:36:43  <ThomasWaldmann> isn't "." always first?
 136 2013-07-25T15:37:02  <ThomasWaldmann> >>> import sys
 137 2013-07-25T15:37:02  <ThomasWaldmann> >>> print sys.path
 138 2013-07-25T15:37:07  <ThomasWaldmann> ['', '/usr/lib/python2.7', ...]
 139 2013-07-25T15:38:03  <xiaq> yeah that's weird...
 140 2013-07-25T15:38:38  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: can you reproduce this? install one xstatic-* package (say xstatic-jquery) and do `python setup.py sdist` with another xstatic-* package
 141 2013-07-25T15:43:52  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe leave the virtualenv before doing step2?
 142 2013-07-25T15:44:57  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: it's right '.' is always first, but the .pth files installed by xstatic is doing dirty things
 143 2013-07-25T15:45:25  <xiaq> try this: cd into a xstatic-* package directory (so that there is a "xstatic" package under ".")
 144 2013-07-25T15:45:26  <ThomasWaldmann> like?
 145 2013-07-25T15:46:06  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: like this: http://rn0.ru/show/nWKaaMBIS8TWBej1dSHa/
 146 2013-07-25T15:48:28  <ThomasWaldmann> well, it is obviously not doing what you wanted, but if you say there is something wrong in the xstatic package, you should make a suggestion how to improve it (or at least specifically point at it)
 147 2013-07-25T15:49:08  * xiaq 'll open an issue
 148 2013-07-25T15:49:39  <ThomasWaldmann> (maybe the problem is that one can't have a namespace package at 2 places...)
 149 2013-07-25T15:51:53  <xiaq> isn't that what namespace package is for? :)
 150 2013-07-25T15:53:03  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: ^
 151 2013-07-25T15:53:13  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ^
 152 2013-07-25T15:56:59  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: yup, that's the problem, flask also had that problem
 153 2013-07-25T15:57:45  <TheSheep> once python finds a package in one location, it looks for the subpackages only there
 154 2013-07-25T15:59:12  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: so, does my "deactivate virtualenv [or "that" env] to build the package" hint work?
 155 2013-07-25T15:59:39  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: it builds cleanly as long as there is no other xstatic-* packages installed
 156 2013-07-25T16:03:02  <xiaq> TheSheep: so flask has already solved that? :)
 157 2013-07-25T16:03:10  <xiaq> TheSheep: and i guess it's the flask.ext package?
 158 2013-07-25T16:03:38  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: issue opened https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/xstatic/issue/2
 159 2013-07-25T16:04:17  * xiaq worked around and built xstatic-chosen anyway
 160 2013-07-25T16:06:41  <TheSheep> xiaq: flask has solved it by moving all extensions to their own separate packages, and doing an ugly hack that collects them all in flask.ext
 161 2013-07-25T16:07:25  <TheSheep> xiaq: that hack makes it impossible to bundle flask in a zip file, among other things
 162 2013-07-25T16:08:22  <xiaq> ah :-|
 163 2013-07-25T16:08:36  <xiaq> no, it should be "aaaaargh"
 164 2013-07-25T16:09:26  <xiaq> seems we need another hack for namespace packages than one used by setuptools
 165 2013-07-25T16:10:55  <TheSheep> Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!
 166 2013-07-25T16:11:29  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: can you maybe rather do closer-to-your-project-related stuff than fixing ns packages?
 167 2013-07-25T16:12:16  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: ah yeah, i'll live with the workaround until after soc :)
 168 2013-07-25T16:13:19  <TheSheep> http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/extensiondev/#ext-import-transition
 169 2013-07-25T16:31:49  <ashutosh1461> ThomasWaldmann, replied to your comments here, https://codereview.appspot.com/11584044/
 170 2013-07-25T16:43:09  <ThomasWaldmann> done
 171 2013-07-25T16:43:14  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: use Chosen for the "select" widget: https://codereview.appspot.com/11844043
 172 2013-07-25T16:45:41  <ThomasWaldmann> xiaq: did you check whether bootstrap offers something like that?
 173 2013-07-25T16:46:10  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: i'm sure not :)
 174 2013-07-25T16:46:36  * xiaq used bootstrap and chosen for a website at local lab
 175 2013-07-25T16:46:58  <xiaq> Chosen looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0x6mm4ahl79vc7/chosen.png
 176 2013-07-25T16:47:27  <ThomasWaldmann> i am currently looking at its project page
 177 2013-07-25T16:48:54  <ThomasWaldmann> looks nice
 178 2013-07-25T16:48:58  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: sharky93 ^^
 179 2013-07-25T17:04:22  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: replied and updated https://codereview.appspot.com/11844043/
 180 2013-07-25T17:04:36  <xiaq> ThomasWaldmann: also, plz check this pr: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/pull-request/177/3-changesets/diff
 181 2013-07-25T17:08:43  * xiaq gn
 182 2013-07-25T17:15:03  <ThomasWaldmann> gn xiaq
 183 2013-07-25T17:18:19  <sharky93> re
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 186 2013-07-25T18:59:26  <sharky93> and another one goes down :P #moin-bootstrap-issuetracker
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 199 2013-07-25T20:50:54  <ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: https://codereview.appspot.com/11709044/ updated
 200 2013-07-25T20:54:03  <ThomasWaldmann> re
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 203 2013-07-25T21:48:52  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: TheSheep please have a look at the modify view now.
 204 2013-07-25T22:00:10  <sharky93> TheSheep: also resize via drag should be disabled on the textareas, no?
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