1 2013-09-14T09:22:18  <sharky93> moin
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   3 2013-09-14T12:24:46  <ana-ananasova> moin
   4 2013-09-14T12:25:32  <ana-ananasova> ThomasWaldmann: please review (patches 14..16) https://codereview.appspot.com/12745048/
   5 2013-09-14T12:26:35  <ana-ananasova> and also my comment to this cr - https://codereview.appspot.com/13240047/
   6 2013-09-14T12:27:31  <ana-ananasova> guys, i am having a bit of a problem here with internet. library is closed for the weekend, also no internet in the dorms
   7 2013-09-14T12:28:48  <ana-ananasova> just on monday i will be able to pay for inet and connect my laptop
   8 2013-09-14T12:29:38  <ana-ananasova> now i am using a university shared desktop
   9 2013-09-14T12:31:29  <ana-ananasova> it uses some magic connection and i can't trick it, also nobody from the locals will help me, because it's not supposed to be used from other computer besides those ones :(
  10 2013-09-14T12:31:59  <ana-ananasova> later i will probably go to a coffee shop and connect from there
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  12 2013-09-14T13:09:53  <ananasova> solved the problem. temporary internet in the dorm
  13 2013-09-14T13:16:36  <sharky93> TheSheep: updated the repo, have a look when free
  14 2013-09-14T13:19:02  <TheSheep> sharky93: are you sure the way you added that site title to the top bar is good?
  15 2013-09-14T13:19:26  <TheSheep> sharky93: I'm not sure about bootstrap3, but bootstrap 2 had special classes for that
  16 2013-09-14T13:26:27  <sharky93> TheSheep: you mean the "brand" class?
  17 2013-09-14T13:28:28  <sharky93> TheSheep: hmm, i see, that also helps with the responsiveness.
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  19 2013-09-14T18:03:25  <sharky93> TheSheep: how i do disable a media query? ..
  20 2013-09-14T18:04:33  <sharky93> TheSheep: there's a query defined in the native bs version, whose breakpoint i want to change, even if i change in the custom less files, there's a default bootstrap included always which causes trouble
  21 2013-09-14T18:05:52  <sharky93> TheSheep: moreover, why do we want to have the native bs in the basic theme package?
  22 2013-09-14T18:11:45  <TheSheep> sharky93: you don't want to have the default bootstrap included in the basic theme
  23 2013-09-14T18:18:19  <TheSheep> sharky93: override the template and remove it
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  25 2013-09-14T18:36:05  <sharky93> TheSheep: have a look at the top nav now, also the responsiveness
  26 2013-09-14T18:38:16  <TheSheep> sharky93: awesome
  27 2013-09-14T18:38:34  <TheSheep> sharky93: but the color of the wiki name could be the same as the other links
  28 2013-09-14T18:39:56  <sharky93> \o/
  29 2013-09-14T18:40:03  <sharky93> TheSheep: is it not same?
  30 2013-09-14T18:40:05  * sharky93 looks
  31 2013-09-14T18:40:13  <TheSheep> it's gray
  32 2013-09-14T18:40:24  <TheSheep> probably because it's a visited link
  33 2013-09-14T18:43:53  <ThomasWaldmann> sharky93: at what width do you switch to mobile version?
  34 2013-09-14T18:48:00  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: the top-nav collapses @ 992px
  35 2013-09-14T18:50:22  <ThomasWaldmann> and malfunctions afterwards
  36 2013-09-14T18:51:38  <sharky93> TheSheep: I inspected the wiki name, it shows as a shade of blue
  37 2013-09-14T18:51:46  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: malfunctions?
  38 2013-09-14T18:51:53  <ThomasWaldmann> try it yourself, ff
  39 2013-09-14T18:52:28  <TheSheep> sharky93: media="all"
  40 2013-09-14T18:52:28  <TheSheep> .moin-navbar-inverse .navbar-brand {
  41 2013-09-14T18:52:28  <TheSheep> color: #999999;
  42 2013-09-14T18:52:34  <TheSheep> }
  43 2013-09-14T18:52:44  <TheSheep> sharky93: that's not a shade of blue
  44 2013-09-14T18:53:56  <sharky93> TheSheep: it shows as .moin-navbar-inverse .navbar-brand {
  45 2013-09-14T18:53:56  <sharky93> color: #C8DDF1;
  46 2013-09-14T18:53:58  <sharky93> }
  47 2013-09-14T18:54:01  <sharky93> to me
  48 2013-09-14T18:54:34  <TheSheep> maybe you didn't commit something
  49 2013-09-14T19:03:28  <ThomasWaldmann> that footer, should it be one right-section-width, no icon, smaller text, less height?
  50 2013-09-14T19:03:42  <ThomasWaldmann> s/one/only/
  51 2013-09-14T19:05:40  <sharky93> TheSheep: i dont understand, everything is added ..
  52 2013-09-14T19:07:56  <TheSheep> sharky93: https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/src/aac162fa416e5f5e5b2ec1f47a474e2585c8085a/MoinMoin/themes/basic/static/css/basic.css?at=default#cl-4466
  53 2013-09-14T19:09:07  <ThomasWaldmann> the anchor for headlines is permanently shown and rather ugly
  54 2013-09-14T19:09:32  <sharky93> TheSheep: https://bitbucket.org/sharky93/moin-2.0-bootstrap/src/aac162fa416e5f5e5b2ec1f47a474e2585c8085a/MoinMoin/themes/basic/static/css/basic.css?at=default#cl-4539
  55 2013-09-14T19:10:38  <TheSheep> sharky93: well, a later rule overrides the earlier one
  56 2013-09-14T19:10:49  <TheSheep> sharky93: also, why are they duplicated?
  57 2013-09-14T19:11:15  <TheSheep> sharky93: I see more duplicated lines in that file
  58 2013-09-14T19:11:57  <sharky93> TheSheep: will have to check about the duplication, 4539 is later than 4466, but then why the gray?
  59 2013-09-14T19:12:49  <TheSheep> that's how it shows in my chromium
  60 2013-09-14T19:12:58  <TheSheep> let me check in ff
  61 2013-09-14T19:13:24  <TheSheep> I think you found a bug in either one of those browsers
  62 2013-09-14T19:14:58  <TheSheep> sharky93: by the way, what about the invalid html?
  63 2013-09-14T19:15:23  <sharky93> TheSheep: fixing invalid html should not be much difficult
  64 2013-09-14T19:15:54  <sharky93> i had a look some days back, not much is invalid
  65 2013-09-14T19:16:09  <TheSheep> well, it's either valid or not
  66 2013-09-14T19:16:31  <TheSheep> as Dijkstra used to say, if correctness is not a requirement, then any answer will do
  67 2013-09-14T19:16:42  <sharky93> :)
  68 2013-09-14T19:17:00  <ThomasWaldmann> the msg on /+login should not be full-width and not push site-navigation down
  69 2013-09-14T19:17:18  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: why not?
  70 2013-09-14T19:17:43  <ThomasWaldmann> because it looks like crap
  71 2013-09-14T19:17:43  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: it's global, not page-specific, so it should be outside the page content
  72 2013-09-14T19:18:03  <sharky93> nice +5 fixInvalidHTML *
  73 2013-09-14T19:19:26  <ThomasWaldmann> the top bar is also global and doesn't have full width
  74 2013-09-14T19:20:18  <ThomasWaldmann> (or for me: 70% width as the rest on the left/right is white and unused anyway)
  75 2013-09-14T19:23:24  <sharky93> TheSheep: also the breakpoint, any idea why it malfunctions with FF?
  76 2013-09-14T19:23:58  <TheSheep> sharky93: probably because of duplicate rules
  77 2013-09-14T19:27:26  <ThomasWaldmann> the usage of red for not existing items is a bit too intense at some places, e.g. in breadcrumbs and for supplementation
  78 2013-09-14T19:27:44  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe rather grey?
  79 2013-09-14T19:31:32  * sharky93 wonders what is causing the duplication
  80 2013-09-14T19:32:08  <sharky93> ThomasWaldmann: it might be difficult to distinguish grey .. a softer red might be better.
  81 2013-09-14T19:33:26  <TheSheep> pink \o/
  82 2013-09-14T19:34:01  <sharky93> TheSheep: any typical thing which causes duplication?
  83 2013-09-14T19:34:28  <TheSheep> sharky93: probably you have in your custon less files rules that are already in bootstrap
  84 2013-09-14T19:39:09  <sharky93> TheSheep: hmm, i think know now the reason for duplication, but how can we possibly avoid inheritance?
  85 2013-09-14T19:40:19  <sharky93> TheSheep: stuff like this @ http://paste.fedoraproject.org/39615/13791876/
  86 2013-09-14T19:43:32  <TheSheep> sharky93: why do you need that, instead of just modifying bootstrap's color variables?
  87 2013-09-14T19:43:34  <ThomasWaldmann> what's a good image pastebin without login?
  88 2013-09-14T19:43:58  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I use imgur
  89 2013-09-14T19:44:21  <TheSheep> for stuff that I don't care about, that is
  90 2013-09-14T19:44:59  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks
  91 2013-09-14T19:45:03  <ThomasWaldmann> http://imgur.com/kmheNWJ
  92 2013-09-14T19:45:05  <sharky93> TheSheep: this is one example, there are others which do not involve just modifying colors
  93 2013-09-14T19:46:58  <ThomasWaldmann> (ignore german content, it's just copy&paste from fefe :D )
  94 2013-09-14T19:58:52  <TheSheep> sharky93: maybe use moin-brand?
  95 2013-09-14T19:59:00  <TheSheep> sharky93: that inherits from brand?
  96 2013-09-14T20:03:25  * sharky93 fixed the permalink
  97 2013-09-14T20:08:54  <sharky93> TheSheep: that would not fix the problem, no?
  98 2013-09-14T20:09:50  <sharky93> TheSheep: there'll be one rule for the inheritance, and then one more for the over-ride ..
  99 2013-09-14T20:10:02  <sharky93> just as the case is now
 100 2013-09-14T21:29:00  * sharky93 gn
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