1 2014-02-10T02:06:24 *** derdon
2 2014-02-10T02:18:30 *** sudo_dirk
3 2014-02-10T02:19:09 *** sudo_dirk
4 2014-02-10T02:35:46 *** penguinRaider
5 2014-02-10T04:12:43 *** penguinRaider
6 2014-02-10T04:18:33 *** Guest77377
7 2014-02-10T08:43:25 *** skathpalia
8 2014-02-10T08:50:54 *** skathpalia
9 2014-02-10T09:01:50 *** greg_f
10 2014-02-10T09:04:35 *** penguinRaider
11 2014-02-10T09:44:07 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
12 2014-02-10T11:53:07 *** penguinRaider
13 2014-02-10T12:36:12 *** dave_largo
14 2014-02-10T13:53:37 *** skathpalia
15 2014-02-10T13:55:08 *** xorAxAx
16 2014-02-10T13:59:45 *** xorAxAx
17 2014-02-10T14:35:23 <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, I have a doubt regarding the bug https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/400/creation-of-new-default-wiki-html-item
18 2014-02-10T14:36:07 <skathpalia> The basic_data_editor is not able to load but if it is changed to data_editor a simple editor loads
19 2014-02-10T14:42:18 *** RogerHaase
20 2014-02-10T14:50:01 <skathpalia> But this only works for the html not for the other type of wikis
21 2014-02-10T14:51:03 *** penguinRaider
22 2014-02-10T14:51:57 <skathpalia> A simple workaround can be that we check the item type and if it is html then different editor is loaded(data_editor) otherwise basic_data_editor is loaded
23 2014-02-10T14:53:19 <skathpalia> But I am not sure whether it is it the only way to solve it or there is some other better way??
24 2014-02-10T15:19:14 <RogerHaase> skathpalia: I can reproduce the bug with the basic theme, but it works with modernized theme. Check for code differences with the source in moinmoin/templates/modify.html
25 2014-02-10T16:15:09 *** derdon
26 2014-02-10T16:26:09 <skathpalia> RogerHaase, seeing the difference from that file, I found that instead of basic_data_editor data_editor is used
27 2014-02-10T16:27:23 <skathpalia> But I want to clarify that we need to use an editor which is same as in other theme or some other editor??
28 2014-02-10T16:42:37 *** penguinRaider
29 2014-02-10T16:48:13 *** penguinRaider
30 2014-02-10T16:49:28 <RogerHaase> skathpalia: then if you have something that works, time for a code review
31 2014-02-10T16:50:37 <skathpalia> RogerHaase, Yeah I think I got it there was problem with the {%block head%} part.
32 2014-02-10T16:52:48 <skathpalia> If I am using the blockheadpart of moinmoin/templates/modify.html and instead of basic_data_editor if data_editor is used then everything works fine
33 2014-02-10T16:53:13 <skathpalia> I mean all the other types are also working fine
34 2014-02-10T16:53:26 <skathpalia> Should I give it for review?
35 2014-02-10T16:55:09 *** tushraj
36 2014-02-10T16:57:19 <RogerHaase> skathpalia: yes, code review is easiest way to discuss code
37 2014-02-10T16:58:16 <skathpalia> ok sending it soon :)
38 2014-02-10T17:02:40 <skathpalia> RogerHaase, you can review it here https://codereview.appspot.com/61650043 :)
39 2014-02-10T17:03:50 *** derdon
40 2014-02-10T17:05:29 *** penguinRaider
41 2014-02-10T17:07:15 *** SteveMcIntyre
42 2014-02-10T17:07:43 *** tushraj
43 2014-02-10T17:10:33 *** Cthulhux
44 2014-02-10T17:11:19 <Cthulhux> hi. just stumbled upon your "weneedhelp" page. as a windows user/dev, I'm curious about the IE/Windows thingy. what's wrong? :)
45 2014-02-10T17:11:56 <RogerHaase> skathpalia: when you look at code review, best way is to click on View under side-by-side diffs. I made a couple of quick comments, still looking
46 2014-02-10T17:11:56 <penguinRaider> ThomasWaldmann, RogerHaase Tried solving #404 Did Small Error Handling Please Review https://codereview.appspot.com/55870044/ https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/404/jinja2exceptionsundefinederror
47 2014-02-10T17:16:28 *** SteveMcIntyre
48 2014-02-10T17:16:35 <RogerHaase> Cthulhux: there is only one windows developer, we need 2. No one has tried to run moin2 under IIS. I find IE 9, 10, 11 are not much trouble.
49 2014-02-10T17:17:19 <Cthulhux> so the "internet explorer issues" part is none?
50 2014-02-10T17:19:03 <RogerHaase> Cthulhux: there is this one: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/327/when-uploading-files-via-global-index-ie9
51 2014-02-10T17:19:42 <RogerHaase> Cthulhux: most of IE issues went away when we decided to stop supporting IE8 and earlier
52 2014-02-10T17:20:01 <Cthulhux> good decision :D
53 2014-02-10T17:22:04 <RogerHaase> Cthulhux: yes IE8 and earlier was a mess. I haven't tested that bug under 10 or 11, may still happen.
54 2014-02-10T17:22:53 <Cthulhux> seems reasonable. i'll see what i can do. :) i'll give it some tests this week, working with IE 10/11 at work anyway..
55 2014-02-10T17:28:17 <skathpalia> RogerHaase, Sorry for the mistake . I have changed it you can review it now https://codereview.appspot.com/61650043/
56 2014-02-10T17:32:21 <RogerHaase> penguinRaider: skathpalia: is code review broken? I get "error: old chunk mismatch" when trying to view your changes.
57 2014-02-10T17:34:37 <skathpalia> Yeah sidebyside diff is not working
58 2014-02-10T17:35:03 <skathpalia> only unified diff is working
59 2014-02-10T17:35:26 <penguinRaider> RogerHaase, yeah side by side diff has some problem
60 2014-02-10T17:38:47 <RogerHaase> I guess the code review folks need more code reviews before they change things.:-(
61 2014-02-10T17:47:07 <RogerHaase> gtg - back in a hour
62 2014-02-10T17:50:41 *** dimazest
63 2014-02-10T18:04:05 *** skathpalia
64 2014-02-10T18:19:34 *** ajitesh
65 2014-02-10T18:33:33 *** skathpalia
66 2014-02-10T19:37:59 <RogerHaase> skathpalia: added comment
67 2014-02-10T19:42:45 <skathpalia> Actually I used the if statement for debugging purpose Now I have deleted that . You can again review it http://codereview.appspot.com/61650043
68 2014-02-10T19:47:34 *** ajitesh
69 2014-02-10T19:48:36 *** ajitesh
70 2014-02-10T20:00:39 *** skathpalia
71 2014-02-10T20:01:52 *** eSyr-ng
72 2014-02-10T20:01:53 *** sharky93
73 2014-02-10T20:01:53 *** sunu_
74 2014-02-10T20:02:03 *** sharky93
75 2014-02-10T20:02:07 *** sunu
76 2014-02-10T20:02:07 *** eSyr-ng
77 2014-02-10T20:10:34 <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, i guess python 3 does not support using --- u"<unicode>" ,does it ?
78 2014-02-10T20:11:00 <ajitesh> coz by default all strings are unicode..
79 2014-02-10T20:14:45 <ajitesh> so converting how is converting html tags to unicode helpful in python 3 ?
80 2014-02-10T20:17:40 <RogerHaase> sharky93: have time to comment on https://codereview.appspot.com/61650043/?
81 2014-02-10T20:30:17 <ThomasWaldmann> ajitesh: you mean the u part?
82 2014-02-10T20:30:34 <ThomasWaldmann> 3.3+ does
83 2014-02-10T20:44:21 <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, ohh.. i was experimenting on 3.2..
84 2014-02-10T21:05:23 <ThomasWaldmann> if we port to 3, it will be 3.3+
85 2014-02-10T21:09:19 *** dave_largo
86 2014-02-10T21:13:34 <RogerHaase> penguinRaider: commented on https://codereview.appspot.com/55870044/
87 2014-02-10T21:28:02 <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, after experimenting with python 3.3.2 i see that it doesnt distinguish between a unicode string and a normal string
88 2014-02-10T21:28:16 <ajitesh> as in even if i use a "u" tag in front of a string
89 2014-02-10T21:28:32 <ajitesh> it still remains of "class str"
90 2014-02-10T21:28:36 <ThomasWaldmann> ajitesh: in py3, normal strings are unicode
91 2014-02-10T21:28:48 <ThomasWaldmann> but there are also bytes
92 2014-02-10T21:29:06 <ajitesh> also the "{0}".format(unicode) doesnt give an error
93 2014-02-10T21:29:26 <ThomasWaldmann> of course it does not
94 2014-02-10T21:34:11 <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, ok so i have a doubt about something you said earlier
95 2014-02-10T21:34:24 <ajitesh> as in for html tags
96 2014-02-10T21:34:31 <ajitesh> u said or python 2, it doesn't matter. it is ascii, so a str gets converted to unicode if needed without a problem
97 2014-02-10T21:34:42 <ajitesh> for python 3, it likely rather should be unicode as it is text
98 2014-02-10T21:36:53 <ajitesh> ok.. how does python 3 deicde when define a string as a byte string or normal unicode string in case the user doesnt specify ?
99 2014-02-10T21:37:54 <ajitesh> *decide when to define
100 2014-02-10T22:02:01 *** RogerHaase
101 2014-02-10T22:13:08 <ThomasWaldmann> 22:34 ajitesh$ for python 3, it likely rather should be unicode as it is text
102 2014-02-10T22:13:12 <ThomasWaldmann> correct ^
103 2014-02-10T22:13:42 <ajitesh> yep
104 2014-02-10T22:14:12 <ThomasWaldmann> '' or u'' is unicode, b'' is bytes
105 2014-02-10T22:14:17 *** nitinagarwal3006
106 2014-02-10T22:14:27 <nitinagarwal3006> Hello Everyone
107 2014-02-10T22:14:46 <ThomasWaldmann> hi
108 2014-02-10T22:15:17 <nitinagarwal3006> ThomasWaldmann: I had sent one mail to discuss some of the project ideas
109 2014-02-10T22:15:58 <nitinagarwal3006> I would like to start off working with some of the project listed in the mail
110 2014-02-10T22:16:01 <ThomasWaldmann> i replied on the ML
111 2014-02-10T22:16:15 <ThomasWaldmann> if you mean the cc
112 2014-02-10T22:16:47 <nitinagarwal3006> sorry I had not received any mail
113 2014-02-10T22:16:54 <nitinagarwal3006> nor on the mailing list
114 2014-02-10T22:17:26 <nitinagarwal3006> my gmail id : nitinagarwal3006@gmail.com
115 2014-02-10T22:17:36 <ThomasWaldmann> multiple people replied to your very generic post there
116 2014-02-10T22:18:30 <ThomasWaldmann> but i see now, your private mail starts the same way, but ends differently (and more specific)
117 2014-02-10T22:19:22 <nitinagarwal3006> As this was my first conversation with you , I thought to introduce my self
118 2014-02-10T22:20:12 <ThomasWaldmann> for now, you shouldn't "start" any of the gsoc project ideas (as in "coding"), but work on planning your application
119 2014-02-10T22:20:36 <ThomasWaldmann> so you have enough own ideas in there that we see you can do it
120 2014-02-10T22:21:02 <ThomasWaldmann> also, fix some bugs or contribute some code, so we see you can use the tools / can get into the code
121 2014-02-10T22:21:06 <nitinagarwal3006> as for the application also
122 2014-02-10T22:21:42 <nitinagarwal3006> From where Shall I start contributing code and in say which module
123 2014-02-10T22:22:08 <nitinagarwal3006> Generally how many patches would you recommend submitting for making a strong proposal for Gsoc
124 2014-02-10T22:22:20 <ThomasWaldmann> pick something from EasyToDo wiki page or issue tracker or find a new bug, shouldn't be hard
125 2014-02-10T22:23:02 <nitinagarwal3006> Starting a project idea and initially contribute some code to that will also show up my skills and ability to complete the project
126 2014-02-10T22:23:23 <ThomasWaldmann> hard to say numbers. best is doing some non-trivial stuff.
127 2014-02-10T22:23:46 <ThomasWaldmann> but even if you just fix a typo and do a pull request, we'ld know that you can use hg and bitbucket.
128 2014-02-10T22:24:02 <nitinagarwal3006> ok
129 2014-02-10T22:25:02 <ThomasWaldmann> and read my reply to your ML post ;)
130 2014-02-10T22:26:56 <nitinagarwal3006> Hope you have send the mail to moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net
131 2014-02-10T22:27:08 <nitinagarwal3006> Sorry not recieved any reply on this list.
132 2014-02-10T22:27:47 <nitinagarwal3006> Are you referring to http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/ page to find out some bugs to fix
133 2014-02-10T22:29:34 <ThomasWaldmann> nitinagarwal3006: look at the ml archives on sf
134 2014-02-10T22:29:50 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
135 2014-02-10T22:33:09 <nitinagarwal3006> Sorry I check on googlegroups I didn't find and neither on sf
136 2014-02-10T22:33:18 <nitinagarwal3006> could you Please provide with the link
137 2014-02-10T22:41:30 <nitinagarwal3006> ThomasWaldmann: Apart from fixing the code bugs, is there any other ongoing project using C,C++, Python programming languages and I can contribute to that.
138 2014-02-10T22:42:16 <ThomasWaldmann> we don't use C and C++ at all
139 2014-02-10T22:42:36 <ThomasWaldmann> other orgs that may take part in gsoc might use these
140 2014-02-10T22:43:23 <ajitesh> ThomasWaldmann, so thats my doubt.. if python 2 can easily convert it to unicode and python 3 already treats it as unicode isnt it unncessary to explicitly convert it to unicode ?
141 2014-02-10T22:43:47 <nitinagarwal3006> Sure
142 2014-02-10T22:44:51 <nitinagarwal3006> Ya I am willing to contribute to some ongoing project using python or web technologies Html, Css
143 2014-02-10T22:46:09 <ThomasWaldmann> oh, i guess i confused you with Nitika Agarwal
144 2014-02-10T22:46:40 <nitinagarwal3006> I'm Nitin Agarwal
145 2014-02-10T22:46:59 <nitinagarwal3006> that user is different
146 2014-02-10T22:47:14 <nitinagarwal3006> I had send the mail only to you.
147 2014-02-10T22:47:23 <nitinagarwal3006> not on the mailing list
148 2014-02-10T22:47:29 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
149 2014-02-10T22:47:43 <ThomasWaldmann> too many identical chars
150 2014-02-10T22:48:24 <nitinagarwal3006> ok
151 2014-02-10T22:48:46 <ThomasWaldmann> and similar skills
152 2014-02-10T22:50:00 <nitinagarwal3006> how come
153 2014-02-10T22:50:07 <nitinagarwal3006> I had not read that mail
154 2014-02-10T22:50:54 <nitinagarwal3006> good
155 2014-02-10T22:51:23 <ThomasWaldmann> is agarwal a common name in india?
156 2014-02-10T22:51:36 <nitinagarwal3006> infact in this summer of code we would be really having good students for the moinmoin contribution
157 2014-02-10T22:52:09 <nitinagarwal3006> No but many people belonging to different subcastes uses the common surname Agarwal
158 2014-02-10T22:54:56 * ThomasWaldmann read an article today about a car study for/from india, car + drone :D
159 2014-02-10T22:56:31 <ThomasWaldmann> renault kwid
160 2014-02-10T22:57:18 <nitinagarwal3006> ThomasWaldmann: willing to contribute to some ongoing project using python or web technologies Html, Css.
161 2014-02-10T22:58:05 <nitinagarwal3006> Could you Please guide me on this as if one can contribute some code to the ongoing project idea or the proposed Gsoc initial project idea
162 2014-02-10T22:58:13 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, just pick something from the issue tracker. or just try moin2, you'll find something that is not perfect yet.
163 2014-02-10T22:59:16 <nitinagarwal3006> I just forked the moin2 repo on bitbucket
164 2014-02-10T23:02:43 <nitinagarwal3006> Thanks ThomasWaldmann
165 2014-02-10T23:02:56 <ThomasWaldmann> yw
166 2014-02-10T23:03:56 *** nitinagarwal3006
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