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   5 2014-05-15T09:40:10  <dimazest> moin
   6 2014-05-15T09:54:49  <ThomasWaldmann> hi dimazest
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  17 2014-05-15T15:43:35  <skathpalia> moin
  18 2014-05-15T15:45:26  <skathpalia> I have a doubt in this line https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/src/4a997d9f5e26515b90c744582be8aa7393bb57d1/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py?at=default#cl-620
  19 2014-05-15T15:46:00  <skathpalia> What is this part doing and where is this function defined?
  20 2014-05-15T15:46:17  <skathpalia> I tried with Pycharm also but I couldn't find
  21 2014-05-15T15:46:47  <skathpalia> I mean where is send method defined and what is it intended to do?
  22 2014-05-15T15:48:18  <ThomasWaldmann>  it's sending an event
  23 2014-05-15T15:48:45  <ThomasWaldmann> from MoinMoin.signalling import item_modified
  24 2014-05-15T15:49:33  <skathpalia> Actually it is taking name which is None in case of ticket
  25 2014-05-15T15:50:00  <skathpalia> So where can I find this method so that I make it item_name independent?
  26 2014-05-15T15:50:20  <ThomasWaldmann> read the blinker docs
  27 2014-05-15T15:51:11  <ThomasWaldmann> and yes, the name-based api relicts should go
  28 2014-05-15T15:51:35  <ThomasWaldmann> see the comment right above
  29 2014-05-15T15:55:33  <skathpalia> How can this be corrected if you have any idea?
  30 2014-05-15T15:55:57  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, ^^
  31 2014-05-15T15:55:57  <ThomasWaldmann> did you read the comment?
  32 2014-05-15T15:56:21  <skathpalia> Yeah I saw that there is a failing test
  33 2014-05-15T15:56:47  <skathpalia> Ok I will try to replace simple name with fqname
  34 2014-05-15T15:57:10  <ThomasWaldmann> yup
  35 2014-05-15T16:02:07  <skathpalia> But I am not able to understand that name is None so how fqname is going to help
  36 2014-05-15T16:02:23  <skathpalia> as it is also one of the parameters for making fqname
  37 2014-05-15T16:02:29  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, ^^
  38 2014-05-15T16:04:51  <ThomasWaldmann> did you see what fqname means, practically?
  39 2014-05-15T16:05:09  <skathpalia> I saw the parameters now
  40 2014-05-15T16:05:30  <skathpalia> I have seen it earlier but I have forgotten about that
  41 2014-05-15T16:05:39  <ThomasWaldmann> i mean the semantics, very high level
  42 2014-05-15T16:06:04  <skathpalia> Ok I am seeing it
  43 2014-05-15T16:06:16  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc we talked about it already
  44 2014-05-15T16:06:43  <ThomasWaldmann> we just need ways to identify items, that's not necessarily a name like "foobar"
  45 2014-05-15T16:07:18  <skathpalia> Also I found one more thing
  46 2014-05-15T16:08:09  <skathpalia> That if we try to edit any other item through this page 127.0.0.1/@itemid/"itemid" then also we get the same error
  47 2014-05-15T16:08:21  <skathpalia> i.e. name not defined error
  48 2014-05-15T16:08:33  <skathpalia> even if the name is defined
  49 2014-05-15T16:09:03  <ThomasWaldmann> well, there are 2 different things
  50 2014-05-15T16:09:19  <ThomasWaldmann> a) the stuff that exists in metadata (of existing items/revisions)
  51 2014-05-15T16:09:48  <ThomasWaldmann> b) the fqname (built from URL params) we use to identify such an item/revision
  52 2014-05-15T16:12:04  <ThomasWaldmann> so, there might be no readable name within the url, but it might exist in the metadata of the identified item (or it might not)
  53 2014-05-15T16:12:20  <ThomasWaldmann> or, it might have multiple names even
  54 2014-05-15T16:14:36  <skathpalia> or there might be no readable name within the url and also there is no name in the meta data
  55 2014-05-15T16:14:48  <skathpalia> which is in the case of tickets
  56 2014-05-15T16:15:16  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, i just said that
  57 2014-05-15T16:17:39  <skathpalia> Ok then I will try to incorporate the fqname stuff in this so that we can edit an item just by itemid
  58 2014-05-15T16:18:00  <ThomasWaldmann> we can edit it in any way we want then :)
  59 2014-05-15T16:18:09  <ThomasWaldmann> that's the whole point
  60 2014-05-15T16:18:43  <ThomasWaldmann> there's also one more noticable thing:
  61 2014-05-15T16:19:16  <ThomasWaldmann> the fqname which is made from the URL might give more information than just identification of an item
  62 2014-05-15T16:19:37  <ThomasWaldmann> imagine you have an item with NAME = ["foo", "bar", ]
  63 2014-05-15T16:20:23  <ThomasWaldmann> if you url is .../foo, the fqname will be (NAME, "foo") and you will now that the user is dealing with "foo" (not "bar")
  64 2014-05-15T16:20:45  <ThomasWaldmann> you can't see that in the metadata, of course
  65 2014-05-15T16:21:05  <ThomasWaldmann> s/now/know/
  66 2014-05-15T16:21:25  <skathpalia> The update part of the ticket would also work if this part is done
  67 2014-05-15T16:21:44  <ThomasWaldmann> and esp. in case of notications, you should tell that the user modified "foo" (not "bar", not itemid)
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  73 2014-05-15T16:33:39  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, if we take fqname instead of simple name at that place then  revs becomes empty
  74 2014-05-15T16:34:32  <ThomasWaldmann> well, likely you need to adjust the code a bit
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