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  15 2014-07-05T11:51:27  <randomax> ThomasWaldmann, crs needed
  16 2014-07-05T11:51:28  <randomax> ACL Report view for admin to view acls of each item in a list and hyperlinks to modify them - https://codereview.appspot.com/109440043/
  17 2014-07-05T11:51:36  <randomax> Addresses traceback for issue #447 - https://codereview.appspot.com/106390046/
  18 2014-07-05T11:51:44  <randomax> Solves traceback as per issue #445 - https://codereview.appspot.com/109410043/
  19 2014-07-05T11:51:52  <randomax> Improved the item metadata section GUI - https://codereview.appspot.com/110210043/
  20 2014-07-05T11:52:02  <randomax> Hide edit acl rights section unless user has admin rights as per issue 446 - https://codereview.appspot.com/106430043/
  21 2014-07-05T11:52:30  <randomax> Added userwise acl view - https://codereview.appspot.com/101630045/
  22 2014-07-05T12:00:39  <randomax> Apply patches for 417, 447, 445 before the new view patches
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  27 2014-07-05T14:21:13  <skathpalia> RogerHaase, I observed a strange thing in case of blog items
  28 2014-07-05T14:21:36  <skathpalia> This error https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/421/cannot-update-blog-or-blog-entry-items comes only in modernized theme
  29 2014-07-05T14:22:01  <skathpalia> In basic theme the updation works fine
  30 2014-07-05T14:22:19  <skathpalia> There is no meta data validation error in basic theme
  31 2014-07-05T14:23:41  <skathpalia> Then I checked the meta data in both themes, the meta data, state is similar in both the themes but in modernized theme it is invalid and the same is valid in basic theme
  32 2014-07-05T14:24:15  <skathpalia> I am not able to get the reason for the same
  33 2014-07-05T14:24:32  <RogerHaase> skathpalia: I did not realize that was a modernized only problem.  Some sort of problem in chain of template inheritance or ?
  34 2014-07-05T14:24:37  <skathpalia> RogerHaase, Can you please try to check this?
  35 2014-07-05T14:24:58  <RogerHaase> will look in a few minutes
  36 2014-07-05T14:25:03  <skathpalia> I am not able to get the cause of the error
  37 2014-07-05T14:25:26  <skathpalia> also added this information on EP http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-ticket-blog
  38 2014-07-05T15:28:35  <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: reviews done
  39 2014-07-05T15:28:57  <randomax> ThomasWaldmann, yeah.. working on your comments
  40 2014-07-05T15:32:05  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, made nameless items downloadable https://codereview.appspot.com/102210043/
  41 2014-07-05T15:32:29  <skathpalia> defined a separate function for getting download filename for item
  42 2014-07-05T15:48:21  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: on https://codereview.appspot.com/109440043/ I disagree with omitting items from the report or showing "default" instead of the ACL rule, at least at this point. The report is for future wiki admins who may not be developers; if I want to know the acl for a specific item, it is not helpful to omit it because it has the default, or show "default" without saying what that means.
  43 2014-07-05T15:53:47  <RogerHaase> It may even be helpful to show before, after rules in the report heading, but that would be fine-tuning to be considered later.
  44 2014-07-05T15:54:14  <dimazest> Hi, I'm not in front of my laptop, but use my phone, so start the meeting, I'll join you
  45 2014-07-05T15:54:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, meeting time soon
  46 2014-07-05T15:59:30  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, updated the cr https://codereview.appspot.com/102210043/
  47 2014-07-05T16:00:15  <ThomasWaldmann> skathpalia: ok now
  48 2014-07-05T16:00:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, meeting time :)
  49 2014-07-05T16:00:33  <skathpalia> Ok I will commit it after the meeting
  50 2014-07-05T16:00:43  <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: would you like to begin?
  51 2014-07-05T16:02:21  <ThomasWaldmann> skathpalia: please begin
  52 2014-07-05T16:02:24  <skathpalia> Ok
  53 2014-07-05T16:02:35  <skathpalia> Done:
  54 2014-07-05T16:02:41  <skathpalia> Added suggestions for tags in ticket modify and submit template and also shown all tags in tickets view
  55 2014-07-05T16:02:46  <skathpalia> here is the cr https://codereview.appspot.com/104420043/
  56 2014-07-05T16:02:51  <skathpalia> Added 'Subscribe' and 'Add quicklink' options in ticket modify page.
  57 2014-07-05T16:02:57  <skathpalia> Here is the cr https://codereview.appspot.com/107440046/
  58 2014-07-05T16:03:02  <skathpalia> Made nameless items downloadable
  59 2014-07-05T16:03:07  <skathpalia> here is the cr https://codereview.appspot.com/102210043/
  60 2014-07-05T16:03:11  <skathpalia> Blocked:
  61 2014-07-05T16:03:17  <skathpalia> Also worked on writing some tests for +tickets https://codereview.appspot.com/109400043/ but for that we need to upgrade the py.test verison to the latest one(2.5.2) which is causing problem, dimazest is trying to find a solution so that we can use this.
  62 2014-07-05T16:03:23  <skathpalia> TODO:
  63 2014-07-05T16:03:27  <skathpalia> Define css for +tickets view for modernized theme as well.
  64 2014-07-05T16:03:34  <skathpalia> Also now notifications can be sent for items not having any name so this https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/433/user-actions-and-item-actions-bar-missing bug also needs to be solved so that user can subscribe to such items
  65 2014-07-05T16:03:54  <skathpalia> Also added some information regarding blog item on my EP
  66 2014-07-05T16:04:51  <ThomasWaldmann> why is upgrading py.test required for your tests?
  67 2014-07-05T16:05:10  <skathpalia> we want to use fixtures
  68 2014-07-05T16:05:29  <skathpalia> @pytest.yield_fixture something of that sort
  69 2014-07-05T16:05:29  <moinBot`> skathpalia: Error: "pytest.yield_fixture" is not a valid command.
  70 2014-07-05T16:06:23  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, Also I have a doubt regarding my cr for this test
  71 2014-07-05T16:06:27  * ThomasWaldmann tried to upgrade py.test a while ago (also to use some new features) and found it to be non-trivial
  72 2014-07-05T16:07:08  <skathpalia> In this I have created a ticket by using simple python but I don't see that item created after the test
  73 2014-07-05T16:07:26  <skathpalia> Can you please see if I have used some wrong way of creating tickets
  74 2014-07-05T16:07:39  <ThomasWaldmann> tests run on a volatile backend that is discarded afterwards
  75 2014-07-05T16:08:32  <skathpalia> Ok then I think I have to write tests that directly check the function tickets
  76 2014-07-05T16:09:44  <skathpalia> Then I think it would work because now I am using selenium to go to +tickets view where I am not able to find that ticket so may be directly testing the function would be better
  77 2014-07-05T16:09:50  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, what do you suggest?
  78 2014-07-05T16:09:57  <RogerHaase> dimazest: showed this cr yesterday for pytest 2.5 upgrade https://codereview.appspot.com/101680044/
  79 2014-07-05T16:11:19  <ThomasWaldmann> i have not enough information to suggest anything
  80 2014-07-05T16:12:07  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, actually we want to write tests for +tickets view
  81 2014-07-05T16:12:42  <skathpalia> so I was thinking that we can write tests for tickets function in frontend/views.py
  82 2014-07-05T16:12:59  <skathpalia> because that function is used at the backend of that view
  83 2014-07-05T16:13:37  <randomax> sorry ThomasWaldmann had gone to the washroom.. was here just after u asked skathpalia to start..
  84 2014-07-05T16:13:38  <dimazest> ThomasWaldmann: did you see my port of tests?
  85 2014-07-05T16:14:13  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: didn't come to look at it yet. maybe today evening if you're here.
  86 2014-07-05T16:14:36  <dimazest> But it's possible to use the pytest version moon requires for the tests
  87 2014-07-05T16:15:46  <ThomasWaldmann> well, we shouldn't require 2 different pytest versions (if you mean that)
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  89 2014-07-05T16:17:28  <dimazest> Definitely. I'm busy today but we can discuss testing tomorrow or any day later.
  90 2014-07-05T16:17:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  91 2014-07-05T16:18:18  * ThomasWaldmann opened some tabs for code reviews...
  92 2014-07-05T16:19:08  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, any other questions from/for skathpalia ?
  93 2014-07-05T16:19:18  <skathpalia> Nope
  94 2014-07-05T16:20:50  <ThomasWaldmann> dimazest: / RogerHaase: ?
  95 2014-07-05T16:20:58  <RogerHaase> none here
  96 2014-07-05T16:21:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks skathpalia, randomax is next.
  97 2014-07-05T16:22:02  <randomax> Done:
  98 2014-07-05T16:22:07  <randomax> ACL Report view for admin to view acls of each item in a list and hyperlinks to modify them - https://codereview.appspot.com/109440043/
  99 2014-07-05T16:22:10  <randomax> Addresses traceback for issue #447 - https://codereview.appspot.com/106390046/
 100 2014-07-05T16:22:15  <randomax> Solves traceback as per issue #445 - https://codereview.appspot.com/109410043/
 101 2014-07-05T16:22:20  <randomax> Addresses traceback as per issue 417 - https://codereview.appspot.com/110360043/ -------------- COMMITTTED
 102 2014-07-05T16:22:25  <randomax> Improved the item metadata section GUI - https://codereview.appspot.com/110210043/
 103 2014-07-05T16:22:31  <randomax> Hide edit acl rights section unless user has admin rights as per issue 446 - https://codereview.appspot.com/106430043/
 104 2014-07-05T16:22:38  <randomax> Added userwise acl view - https://codereview.appspot.com/101630045/
 105 2014-07-05T16:22:42  <randomax> TODO:
 106 2014-07-05T16:22:46  <randomax> Issue 444 - Traceback on trying to access item which is not readable
 107 2014-07-05T16:22:51  <randomax> Next:
 108 2014-07-05T16:22:55  <randomax> Group Wise Tab - Admin will have access to a list of groups where columns will be : group name (link to modify view of item, e.g.
 109 2014-07-05T16:23:11  <randomax> TrustedGroup), user members, link to a "ACL2 Report" table that shows items specifying selected group in acl rule
 110 2014-07-05T16:23:34  <randomax> "ACL2 Report" : similar to ACL Report - Would have columns: Item Name, ACL Rule (where ACL rule will show group name within rule)
 111 2014-07-05T16:24:17  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe think about good, descriptive names for these reports
 112 2014-07-05T16:24:39  <randomax> ok
 113 2014-07-05T16:24:46  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did you run the tests after all these changes?
 114 2014-07-05T16:24:53  <randomax> yes
 115 2014-07-05T16:25:27  <randomax> made pep8 changes too in some of them
 116 2014-07-05T16:26:38  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, your recent activity is much better
 117 2014-07-05T16:26:52  <ThomasWaldmann> keep it going :)
 118 2014-07-05T16:27:03  <randomax> Thank you :)
 119 2014-07-05T16:27:19  <randomax> yes i will
 120 2014-07-05T16:27:38  <ThomasWaldmann> when implementing such reports also think of the users of them.
 121 2014-07-05T16:28:01  <randomax> as in ?
 122 2014-07-05T16:28:12  <ThomasWaldmann> there might be really many users in a wiki (think of hundreds, thousands) and even more items.
 123 2014-07-05T16:29:01  <ThomasWaldmann> so think of the one looking at such a vast amount of information and try to make it really useful/usable
 124 2014-07-05T16:29:41  <randomax> ok..
 125 2014-07-05T16:30:39  <RogerHaase> as I said before meeting< I really disagree with omitting items from the report because they have default ACL
 126 2014-07-05T16:30:46  <ThomasWaldmann> ok wow, dimazest's CR is rather many patchsets
 127 2014-07-05T16:31:24  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: then list with "Default"
 128 2014-07-05T16:31:55  <randomax> I think i agree with RogerHaase
 129 2014-07-05T16:32:14  <ThomasWaldmann> printing a lot of acls that are not on the item, but just from configuration is giving a lot of text to look at, just to find it is the stuff from the config
 130 2014-07-05T16:32:38  <randomax> but are we sure that the admin would know the default ?
 131 2014-07-05T16:32:52  <randomax> *admins
 132 2014-07-05T16:33:14  <RogerHaase> why not just give the info and say what default is, reports should convey info, not go look this up somewhere else
 133 2014-07-05T16:33:28  <ThomasWaldmann> or "Default (whatever the default is)"
 134 2014-07-05T16:33:45  <randomax> yeah.. That would be better
 135 2014-07-05T16:34:17  <ThomasWaldmann> if you sort that, you could easily have all "Default" items in one sequence and it is easy to see they just have the default acl
 136 2014-07-05T16:34:24  <RogerHaase> that would work for me
 137 2014-07-05T16:34:42  <ThomasWaldmann> otherwise you would need to manually pattern match whatever it shows to the default from config to recognize it is the default
 138 2014-07-05T16:34:53  <randomax> yeah.. agree
 139 2014-07-05T16:36:09  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, in an advanced version, it could also compute the effective acl
 140 2014-07-05T16:37:20  <ThomasWaldmann> which is rather easy for no-inheritance acl mode, not so much for acl inheritance
 141 2014-07-05T16:37:31  <randomax> for user wise view currently its the effective ACL..
 142 2014-07-05T16:37:51  <randomax> i tried using ACL with WikiGroups containing the user
 143 2014-07-05T16:37:57  <randomax> and it worked
 144 2014-07-05T16:38:34  <ThomasWaldmann> i think you compute the permissions (like r,w,...), but not the effective acl
 145 2014-07-05T16:39:10  <ThomasWaldmann> but that's maybe enough
 146 2014-07-05T16:39:39  <ThomasWaldmann> if as an admin you can see what a user may r,w,... that's usually what you want to know
 147 2014-07-05T16:40:12  <RogerHaase> I have not yet used ACLs with inheritance nor namespaces
 148 2014-07-05T16:41:00  <ThomasWaldmann> inheritance mode is old (from 1.9), but can be complicated
 149 2014-07-05T16:41:16  <ThomasWaldmann> multi-named users and items didn't make it easier.
 150 2014-07-05T16:42:09  <ThomasWaldmann> another idea for showing default ACLs could be something like:
 151 2014-07-05T16:42:22  <ThomasWaldmann> [what the default is]
 152 2014-07-05T16:42:26  <ThomasWaldmann> *what...
 153 2014-07-05T16:42:36  <ThomasWaldmann> <green>what ...</green>
 154 2014-07-05T16:43:59  <randomax> You mean once give complete definition on top
 155 2014-07-05T16:44:08  <randomax> and then refer to it elsewhere ?
 156 2014-07-05T16:44:09  <ThomasWaldmann> also, how about showing the before/default/after acls on that view, in the header maybe
 157 2014-07-05T16:45:05  <ThomasWaldmann> for the above stuff, i meant alternatives to showing "Default (whatever default is)" for each item
 158 2014-07-05T16:45:08  <RogerHaase> scope creep
 159 2014-07-05T16:45:55  <ThomasWaldmann> not really, if you look at acls, you likely want to know what they mean
 160 2014-07-05T16:46:19  <ThomasWaldmann> and in the end you don't know without the configured acls
 161 2014-07-05T16:46:51  <randomax> Umm.. I think "Default (whatever default is)" seems better as the admin wont have to go back up again in case they forgot
 162 2014-07-05T16:47:02  <randomax> and would be easy to sort together too as you pointed out
 163 2014-07-05T16:47:16  <RogerHaase> we could get the first report version committed and then enhance it..
 164 2014-07-05T16:47:25  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, sure
 165 2014-07-05T16:47:45  <ThomasWaldmann> one idea after the other :)
 166 2014-07-05T16:48:59  <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: try to make many smaller CRs / commits by just concentrating on a single idea and implementing it
 167 2014-07-05T16:49:24  <randomax> yeah.. i am already trying to do that..
 168 2014-07-05T16:49:26  <ThomasWaldmann> (not such huge CRs as you had a while ago)
 169 2014-07-05T16:51:25  <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: btw, for the group stuff you want to do next, you likely rather need the parsed acl than the acl string
 170 2014-07-05T16:52:06  <ThomasWaldmann> (if you want to check whether some group appears in an acl)
 171 2014-07-05T16:52:20  <randomax> yes.. i plan to try and implement something similar that is there for users
 172 2014-07-05T16:52:23  <ThomasWaldmann> don't reimplement that parser, it's non-trivial
 173 2014-07-05T16:53:32  <ThomasWaldmann> also, we already have it, so you can just use it
 174 2014-07-05T16:53:57  <randomax> ok.. i'll try to add support for groups as well
 175 2014-07-05T16:54:05  <randomax> in that itself
 176 2014-07-05T16:54:44  <ThomasWaldmann> randomax: skathpalia: btw, how's the state of the etherpads, did you already clean up / enhance the contents?
 177 2014-07-05T16:54:56  <randomax> yes - http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-improve-gui
 178 2014-07-05T16:55:21  <skathpalia> yeah I added some information http://etherpad.osuosl.org/moin-ticket-blog
 179 2014-07-05T16:55:42  <skathpalia> also added an important observation regarding blog items
 180 2014-07-05T16:55:42  <RogerHaase> I presume the WikiGroups have this usergroup meta data for performance reasons, rather than doing it the 1.9 way of lists within the item content?
 181 2014-07-05T16:57:40  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yes, we then directly have a usable data structure, not just some markup that we first need to parse
 182 2014-07-05T16:59:13  <RogerHaase> was there some idea of how users will be able to edit that data or the content of a WikiGroup?
 183 2014-07-05T16:59:52  <ThomasWaldmann> guess we either parse it from content and put it there when saving, or
 184 2014-07-05T17:00:06  <ThomasWaldmann> we have a metadata-editor widget for it
 185 2014-07-05T17:00:35  <ThomasWaldmann> migration from 1.9 might be also an open issue
 186 2014-07-05T17:01:33  <RogerHaase> Or are there other meta data keys that a user can update?  Seems like a user show not be allowed to update itemid, itemlinks...
 187 2014-07-05T17:02:09  <ThomasWaldmann> itemid, itemlinks, itemtransclusions, revid is computed stuff
 188 2014-07-05T17:02:25  <ThomasWaldmann> see that filter function that keeps users away from that
 189 2014-07-05T17:03:19  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, itemlinks makes wiki-backlinks much more efficient than in 1.9 where that stuff needed a full-text-search and was the reason for many high-load-conditions
 190 2014-07-05T17:03:41  <RogerHaase> seems to be a traceback if I try to update itemlinks and save
 191 2014-07-05T17:04:05  <ThomasWaldmann> X)
 192 2014-07-05T17:05:35  <RogerHaase> similar traceback for others, but I can add new arbitrary keys
 193 2014-07-05T17:05:46  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, we need some image href that links to a google search for tails :D
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 195 2014-07-05T17:06:10  <ThomasWaldmann> user-defined keys should be possible
 196 2014-07-05T17:06:22  <ThomasWaldmann> and whoosh can even search for them
 197 2014-07-05T17:07:04  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, about the meeting: any questions for/from randomax left?
 198 2014-07-05T17:07:18  <RogerHaase> none here
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 200 2014-07-05T17:07:53  <randomax> ThomasWaldmann, some crs still pending..
 201 2014-07-05T17:08:16  <randomax> Improved the item metadata section GUI - https://codereview.appspot.com/110210043/
 202 2014-07-05T17:08:24  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, will remove those blank spaces in my next commit
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 204 2014-07-05T17:09:54  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, I have an idea of removing the query which I have used in this cr https://codereview.appspot.com/107440046/
 205 2014-07-05T17:10:38  <skathpalia> instead of defining it in ticket/base.html, we can define that in ticket/modify.html
 206 2014-07-05T17:10:45  <skathpalia> as it is required there only
 207 2014-07-05T17:10:45  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so the meeting is over, thanks everybody for attending. continue discussing ... :)
 208 2014-07-05T17:11:05  <skathpalia> and then we don't have to use any query
 209 2014-07-05T17:11:23  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, what do you say on this idea?
 210 2014-07-05T17:12:02  <ThomasWaldmann> check the storage api. iirc there is not only get, but also exists.
 211 2014-07-05T17:12:28  <ThomasWaldmann> MoinMoin.storage.indexing
 212 2014-07-05T17:12:46  * ThomasWaldmann needs to drive home now, brb
 213 2014-07-05T17:12:53  <Bernard1> Nice to have followed your meeting.
 214 2014-07-05T17:14:08  <skathpalia> RogerHaase, did you try to make blog items in basic theme?
 215 2014-07-05T17:16:29  <RogerHaase> skathpalia: sorry, not yet, hopefully will have time soon
 216 2014-07-05T17:16:54  <skathpalia> np :)
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 220 2014-07-05T17:37:28  <randomax> RogerHaase, the TypeError is caused bcoz the tablesorter js file is not included in the views except the views i created..
 221 2014-07-05T17:38:43  <randomax> so should i put back the check for moin-sortable ?
 222 2014-07-05T17:39:30  <randomax> so that the function is called only when the tablesorter function is called only when required
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 225 2014-07-05T17:41:47  <RogerHaase> randomax: I see jquery.tablesorter.js is loaded in templates.tickets.html and nowhere else?
 226 2014-07-05T17:42:25  <randomax> also in aclreport.html
 227 2014-07-05T17:42:35  <randomax> and acl_uer_info.html as well
 228 2014-07-05T17:42:57  <RogerHaase> ok, searching wrong repo....
 229 2014-07-05T17:43:15  <randomax> *acl_user_info.html
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 231 2014-07-05T17:46:27  <RogerHaase> that load should probably be moved to base.html or ? and removed from tickets.html and the others
 232 2014-07-05T17:49:23  <randomax> ok will move that to base.html
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 234 2014-07-05T17:50:58  <RogerHaase> randomax: base.html looks like right place
 235 2014-07-05T17:51:39  <randomax> yeah
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 247 2014-07-05T18:58:45  <randomax> i guess i'll retire for tonight.. i'll come back with updated crs tomorrow
 248 2014-07-05T18:58:47  <randomax> gn
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MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2014-07-05 (last edited 2014-07-05 03:15:03 by IrcLogImporter)