1 2015-03-02T05:31:02 *** sagar__
2 2015-03-02T05:31:06 *** sagar__
3 2015-03-02T08:01:32 *** akshita
4 2015-03-02T08:08:54 *** akshita
5 2015-03-02T08:09:31 *** akshita
6 2015-03-02T08:15:19 *** akshita
7 2015-03-02T08:16:44 *** akshita
8 2015-03-02T08:24:37 *** bond007
9 2015-03-02T08:38:24 *** bond007
10 2015-03-02T08:39:39 *** bond007
11 2015-03-02T08:44:24 *** bond007
12 2015-03-02T08:51:51 *** therauli
13 2015-03-02T09:05:37 *** bond007
14 2015-03-02T09:08:04 *** bond007
15 2015-03-02T09:14:56 *** bond007
16 2015-03-02T09:15:33 *** bond007
17 2015-03-02T09:22:23 *** bond007
18 2015-03-02T09:22:56 *** bond007
19 2015-03-02T09:24:59 *** bond007
20 2015-03-02T09:25:16 *** bond007
21 2015-03-02T09:44:21 *** greg_f
22 2015-03-02T09:52:47 *** bond007
23 2015-03-02T10:52:14 *** akshita
24 2015-03-02T11:38:35 *** rmanish
25 2015-03-02T11:54:40 *** rmanish
26 2015-03-02T12:35:01 *** tonythomas
27 2015-03-02T12:49:55 *** dave_largo
28 2015-03-02T13:14:26 *** akshita
29 2015-03-02T13:56:48 *** akshita
30 2015-03-02T14:20:28 *** RogerHaase
31 2015-03-02T15:56:03 <tonythomas> hey ThomasWaldmann ! you around ?
32 2015-03-02T15:56:21 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
33 2015-03-02T15:58:05 <tonythomas> great ! I wanted to know whether the bounce handling project for MoinMoin is an important one for the community this year. I wanted to specifically work on that - but if there is some blockers for the same, it would be great to know beforehand
34 2015-03-02T15:58:55 <ThomasWaldmann> well, the mail functionality is already there in moin, so making it work better is definitely wanted.
35 2015-03-02T15:59:57 <ThomasWaldmann> in general, on that page there are just ideas. rather consider them as such than seeing each of them as a full gsoc project.
36 2015-03-02T16:00:35 <ThomasWaldmann> so, do some planning about how much it would take (and have more precise ideas than you see there)
37 2015-03-02T16:00:43 <ThomasWaldmann> how long*
38 2015-03-02T16:02:34 <tonythomas> ThomasWaldmann: true. I would definitely want to try that one out. I have done something similar in PHP - but we used a different technique there - I will comment that one on the bug
39 2015-03-02T16:02:59 <tonythomas> I think altering the 'From' address wont do the trick, maybe we would want to edit the "Return-Path"
40 2015-03-02T16:04:16 <tonythomas> for some random reasons https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2015/InitialProjectIdeas is not resolved by my DNS :\
41 2015-03-02T16:05:56 <ThomasWaldmann> then your DNS is crap
42 2015-03-02T16:06:19 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: can you discuss with tonythomas? I need to go...
43 2015-03-02T16:06:40 <ThomasWaldmann> tonythomas: moinmo.in. 60 IN A 85.10.192.104
44 2015-03-02T16:06:52 <ThomasWaldmann> put it into your hosts file locally :)
45 2015-03-02T16:07:03 <tonythomas> its a university one :\ it sucks
46 2015-03-02T16:07:06 <tonythomas> let me try that one
47 2015-03-02T16:08:13 * ThomasWaldmann bbl
48 2015-03-02T16:24:00 *** rmanish
49 2015-03-02T16:35:06 <waldi> hi tonythomas
50 2015-03-02T16:35:22 <tonythomas> hi waldi! I hope you got my email !
51 2015-03-02T16:41:55 <waldi> yes, i did. I'm sorry that i did not manage to answer yet
52 2015-03-02T16:42:52 <tonythomas> waldi: no probs. I was just wondering - why someone would edit the from address for https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/338/mail-bounce-handling
53 2015-03-02T16:43:08 <tonythomas> we should be editing "Return-Path" right ?
54 2015-03-02T16:43:23 <tonythomas> thats how standard bouncehandlers do it ?
55 2015-03-02T16:43:25 <waldi> no, it should be the envelope sender
56 2015-03-02T16:44:03 <tonythomas> waldi: hmm. and the envelope-sender gets copies as "Return-Path" to, in moin moin emails ?
57 2015-03-02T16:44:15 <tonythomas> *copied
58 2015-03-02T16:45:42 <waldi> it gets copied by the MDA
59 2015-03-02T16:46:14 <tonythomas> waldi: true. and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1235534/what-is-the-behavior-difference-between-return-path-reply-to-and-from says that - the mail can even go back to FROM, if no "Reply-To" is set
60 2015-03-02T16:46:55 <tonythomas> so -> do currently, moin will have a default set envelope-sender right ?
61 2015-03-02T16:47:31 <waldi> bounces are always sent to the envelope-from. the Return-Path header is just a copy so this information is not lost after delivery
62 2015-03-02T16:49:29 <tonythomas> waldi: true. and one more thing - this "Envelope-From" is different from "From" header ?
63 2015-03-02T16:49:54 <waldi> yes. take a look at a random mailing-list
64 2015-03-02T16:51:56 <tonythomas> oh. cool. makes sense. Looks like in my previous project, we just kept a Return-Path and ommitted the "Envelope-From" in header
65 2015-03-02T16:55:11 <tonythomas> waldi: and one more thing - after reception of a bounce, how do you expect the MTA to transfer it to moin ?
66 2015-03-02T16:55:32 <waldi> this is up to you
67 2015-03-02T16:55:39 *** akshita
68 2015-03-02T16:55:53 <tonythomas> waldi: okey. so - this handling script would come as a part of moin core ?
69 2015-03-02T16:56:02 <waldi> yes
70 2015-03-02T16:56:17 *** rmanish
71 2015-03-02T16:56:28 <tonythomas> cool. and can I assume that IMAP is supported ? so that fetching headers would be easy ?
72 2015-03-02T16:56:52 <tonythomas> or - transfer bounce to script on arrival ?
73 2015-03-02T16:57:16 *** dave_largo
74 2015-03-02T16:58:02 <waldi> no, it'll get the mail on stdin
75 2015-03-02T16:59:21 <tonythomas> waldi: okey. that explains things. thanks for your time
76 2015-03-02T17:10:52 *** karan
77 2015-03-02T17:14:10 *** karan
78 2015-03-02T17:14:36 *** karan
79 2015-03-02T17:28:59 *** dave_largo
80 2015-03-02T17:53:30 *** bond007
81 2015-03-02T18:03:13 *** rmanish
82 2015-03-02T18:19:15 *** karan
83 2015-03-02T18:41:47 *** greg_f
84 2015-03-02T18:53:54 *** abhishek__
85 2015-03-02T18:58:13 *** abhishek__
86 2015-03-02T19:03:06 <bond007> moin didn't get accepted ?
87 2015-03-02T19:09:33 <bond007> cool! https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/python
88 2015-03-02T19:28:33 <ThomasWaldmann> bond007: we take part as sub-org of PSF
89 2015-03-02T19:30:18 <bond007> ThomasWaldmann: great!! but the list is very short ! Mozilla isn't in it
90 2015-03-02T19:30:31 <ThomasWaldmann> (if PSF is accepted)
91 2015-03-02T19:30:58 <ThomasWaldmann> you only see the psf suborgs there
92 2015-03-02T20:10:02 *** rmanish
93 2015-03-02T20:27:59 <vipul20> hello, how many seats is MoinMoin expecting for gsoc 2015 ?
94 2015-03-02T20:28:45 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: we don't even know how many psf is getting
95 2015-03-02T20:29:25 <ThomasWaldmann> and in general, allocation will depend on a lot of factors
96 2015-03-02T20:31:23 <vipul20> ok, this year only 137 organizations are accepted, so does that mean that number of students for PSF will be more this year?
97 2015-03-02T20:36:07 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: it's not useful to discuss this. rather invest your time to write a good application for any org and project you like to work on.
98 2015-03-02T20:40:11 *** abhishek
99 2015-03-02T20:41:24 <abhishek> Where can I find Moin 2 code ? Can anyone direct me to a link ?
100 2015-03-02T20:41:39 <vipul20> ThomasWaldmann: sorry for that, I should work rather than discuss about this :)
101 2015-03-02T20:43:21 <ThomasWaldmann> abhishek: all links you need are on the MoinMoin2.0 wiki page
102 2015-03-02T20:48:53 *** aabs08_
103 2015-03-02T20:52:21 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann:there are comments in frontend views.py that #TODO use ?next=next_location check if target is in the wiki and not outside domain
104 2015-03-02T20:54:49 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann:there are comments in frontend views.py that #TODO use ?next=next_location check if target is in the wiki and not outside domain
105 2015-03-02T20:55:07 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann: probably I can work on most of the ?next=next_location as I already solved that in login and logout and also remove those comments ,any idea on checking if target is in the wiki and not outside domain ?
106 2015-03-02T20:59:18 <ThomasWaldmann> aabs08_: there should be no protocol and server part
107 2015-03-02T21:01:37 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann: so there is no simple command for that ?
108 2015-03-02T21:02:05 <ThomasWaldmann> urlparse?
109 2015-03-02T21:03:41 <aabs08_> using urlpass and checking whether netloc field is empty should work right?
110 2015-03-02T21:07:57 *** penguinRaider
111 2015-03-02T21:09:24 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann: probably checking relative url is more elegant by making a is_relative_url function to check internal pages , thanx a lot
112 2015-03-02T21:09:33 <aabs08_> :)
113 2015-03-02T21:10:07 <ThomasWaldmann> how is a relative url defined?
114 2015-03-02T21:11:00 <aabs08_> using urlparse
115 2015-03-02T21:11:07 <aabs08_> I found this link , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8357098/how-can-i-check-if-a-url-is-absolute-using-python
116 2015-03-02T21:11:17 *** yask007
117 2015-03-02T21:11:35 *** aabs08
118 2015-03-02T21:13:10 <aabs08_> ThomasWaldmann: : and if the code needs to run on any hosts/servers all the links are guaranteed to be relative , right ? so this should work .
119 2015-03-02T21:17:10 *** abhishek
120 2015-03-02T21:35:58 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: update configuration rst docs and supporting files https://codereview.appspot.com/208070043/
121 2015-03-02T21:42:06 *** bond007
122 2015-03-02T21:44:33 *** tonythomas
123 2015-03-02T21:48:45 *** aabs08
124 2015-03-02T21:59:09 *** penguinRaider
125 2015-03-02T22:03:43 *** aabs08_
126 2015-03-02T22:15:53 *** RogerHaase
127 2015-03-02T22:16:43 *** penguinRaider
128 2015-03-02T23:38:08 *** vipul20
129 2015-03-02T23:46:40 *** yask007
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