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  10 2015-03-06T03:37:32  <_pjoshi> Moin!!
  11 2015-03-06T03:37:37  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  Ping
  12 2015-03-06T04:22:38  <_pjoshi> can anyone guide me for solving <<Anchor(anchorname)>> throws an error <<Anchor: execution failed [__init__() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)] (see also the log)>> in moin 2.
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  47 2015-03-06T12:13:14  <aviraldg> Hey, ThomasWaldmann
  48 2015-03-06T12:13:14  <aviraldg> I'm interesting in working on https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2015/InitialProjectIdeas#Improve_moin-related_xml_code ... but curious, is there any particular reason why you want to get rid of the dependency on lxml?
  49 2015-03-06T12:13:14  <aviraldg> It also appears that https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2015/InitialProjectIdeas#Improve_DOM_converters might depend on the former to some extent -- how should that be dealt with?
  50 2015-03-06T12:15:30  <aviraldg> Also, for the first, how much of a performance drop would you deem acceptable?
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  68 2015-03-06T13:38:04  <tushar> Hello, I am a sophomore pursuing Computer Science Engineering in India. I have 4 years of experience in web development ( CSS3,HTML,Bootstrap, Django, Python ) and I have also worked with C and Java. I am interested in contributing to the following GSoC projects: 'Improve existing themes' and 'Improve blog'. Can you please guide me on how to get started? Thanks.
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  71 2015-03-06T13:52:54  <ThomasWaldmann> tushar: you have a lot of links on the project ideas page, start by reading the linked stuff and then ask specific questions
  72 2015-03-06T13:56:55  <aayushranaut> The “https://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/ApplicationTemplate2015.” appears to be broken on the “https://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2015/InitialProjectIdeas" page.
  73 2015-03-06T14:02:51  <aabs08> ThomasWaldmann,  codereview #498 and #499 https://codereview.appspot.com/210910043/
  74 2015-03-06T14:07:34  <aabs08> for issue #499 i added link in the issue tracker table like bitbucket and also added it to the search .
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  77 2015-03-06T14:14:03  <_pjoshi> Moin !!
  78 2015-03-06T14:14:24  <aayushranaut> Moin!
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  80 2015-03-06T14:15:40  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  Will you please explain me about the XML code related to Moin as in what all are you expecting from that ?
  81 2015-03-06T14:17:12  <_pjoshi> AayushRanaut: Hello
  82 2015-03-06T14:17:25  <AayushRanaut> Hi
  83 2015-03-06T14:19:20  <ThomasWaldmann> _pjoshi: the rough goals are on the ideas page.
  84 2015-03-06T14:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (if you mean the emeraldtree/xpath related idea)
  85 2015-03-06T14:21:03  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  I didn't get the proper docs to read about that
  86 2015-03-06T14:21:05  <_pjoshi> :/
  87 2015-03-06T14:21:21  <aviraldg> ThomasWaldmann: did you see my questions (about the same topic) from earlier?
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  89 2015-03-06T14:24:12  <ThomasWaldmann> _pjoshi: emeraldtree is a fork of elementtree, so it is somewhat similar, except some cleanup that are (IIRC) described in the readme
  90 2015-03-06T14:24:26  <ThomasWaldmann> xpath is a standard, you can search it on the web
  91 2015-03-06T14:26:14  <ThomasWaldmann> aviraldg: this is not about performance, but about lxml being a permanent pain at installation time because it needs compiling. and even if you have a compiler, it will stumble over sth else often.
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  93 2015-03-06T14:27:00  <ThomasWaldmann> aviraldg: and we only use lxml for the tests, so it doesn't matter if it is a bit slower.
  94 2015-03-06T14:27:16  <aviraldg> aha, makes sense
  95 2015-03-06T14:27:51  <aviraldg> do you think working on both of those ideas (perhaps on a subset of the second) will be too much work?
  96 2015-03-06T14:28:24  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess to tell that requires some planning which you have to do anyways :)
  97 2015-03-06T14:28:41  <aviraldg> :)
  98 2015-03-06T14:28:50  <AayushRanaut> http://127.0.0.1:8080/+new?itemtype=blogentry throws a not implemented error. Do we have to implement the blogging platform as a part of GSOC, cause that will be really interesting
  99 2015-03-06T14:29:25  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, blog items are already there and should work
 100 2015-03-06T14:30:03  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Can you tell me how embradtree helps moin ?
 101 2015-03-06T14:30:05  <ThomasWaldmann> just create a new item and select it from the UI?
 102 2015-03-06T14:30:26  <ThomasWaldmann> _pjoshi: it is a tree/xml library
 103 2015-03-06T14:30:49  <AayushRanaut> I’ll create an issue in the issue tracker(bitbucket) with screenshots so that you can also see.
 104 2015-03-06T14:31:01  <ThomasWaldmann> input gets parsed into tree, tree gets transformed (e.g. includes), tree gets transformed to output format
 105 2015-03-06T14:31:43  <ThomasWaldmann> "parsed", "transformed" -> see MoinMoin.converter
 106 2015-03-06T14:33:15  <AayushRanaut> https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/502/error-crating-blog-entry
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 108 2015-03-06T14:34:25  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  So basically we have finish the xml code so that all the inputs get converted into xml code ?
 109 2015-03-06T14:34:32  <_pjoshi> I mean in the tree form ?
 110 2015-03-06T14:35:11  <ThomasWaldmann> that code already exists.
 111 2015-03-06T14:35:42  <ThomasWaldmann> but converters can be improved (one idea from ideas page), converter testing could get rid of lxml (other idea)
 112 2015-03-06T14:36:17  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe just try to test moin WITH lxml, then you maybe will get to see what I mean with "pain" :)
 113 2015-03-06T14:36:27  <aviraldg> haha :)
 114 2015-03-06T14:36:52  <aviraldg> I think (after some poking around) both just might be doable (and practical to do it that way?)
 115 2015-03-06T14:38:12  <aviraldg> Do you have some sort of guideline for student proposals?
 116 2015-03-06T14:38:35  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  Okay for improving convertors the main focus will be on the TODOS that have been mentioned on the link provided on the idea page
 117 2015-03-06T14:38:35  <_pjoshi> ?
 118 2015-03-06T14:38:41  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess i linked either our or psf's template
 119 2015-03-06T14:40:26  <ThomasWaldmann> _pjoshi: all of the items there, not just the link
 120 2015-03-06T14:41:07  <ThomasWaldmann> section editing might be some optional thing
 121 2015-03-06T14:42:15  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah basically we have to concentrate on docbook and the markdows
 122 2015-03-06T14:42:19  <_pjoshi> *markdowns
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 124 2015-03-06T14:54:28  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  We have imported elementtree(in convertor/html_in.py) from embradtree but the elementree file is empty there
 125 2015-03-06T14:54:33  <_pjoshi> ?
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 127 2015-03-06T14:59:14  <ThomasWaldmann> _pjoshi: from priority standpoint, making moin markup 100% solid is way more important than markdown (which is new) and docbook (which maybe was not used that much)
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 129 2015-03-06T14:59:52  <ThomasWaldmann> so nothing against them, but priorities should relate to reality
 130 2015-03-06T14:59:56  <farhanthesheik> ThomasWaldmann: In Issue #297, https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/297/html-source-output-is-ugly, Could you specify where exactly the final HTML is generated?
 131 2015-03-06T15:00:37  <_pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann:  Okay got it so bascally we should first concentrate of improving the markup languages
 132 2015-03-06T15:01:13  <_pjoshi> as those mentioned in the MoinMoin/convertors, right ?
 133 2015-03-06T15:01:26  <aviraldg> Moin, to be specific.
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 135 2015-03-06T15:03:29  <aabs08> ThomasWaldmann,  codereview #498 and #499 https://codereview.appspot.com/210910043/
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 137 2015-03-06T15:06:13  <ThomasWaldmann> aabs08: seen it, just no time for CR right now.
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 139 2015-03-06T15:18:36  <aabs08> np :)
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 142 2015-03-06T15:31:47  <aviraldg> ThomasWaldmann: I noticed that 'DOM converter improvements' has been on the idea list since GSoC 2011, but never accepted. Is this because it's not that high-priority (I'd think it would be) or a suitable proposal hasn't been submitted yet?
 143 2015-03-06T15:31:51  <farhanthesheik> aabs08: Hey!
 144 2015-03-06T15:32:40  <aabs08> farhanthesheik, hi!
 145 2015-03-06T15:37:03  <farhanthesheik> aabs08: Have you checked out issue 297 ?
 146 2015-03-06T15:38:01  <aabs08> yes
 147 2015-03-06T15:38:10  <aabs08> checked out now :P
 148 2015-03-06T15:41:59  <farhanthesheik> Have any idea where the last output is generated ? :D
 149 2015-03-06T15:42:15  <aabs08> ya probably the html source
 150 2015-03-06T15:42:34  <aabs08> press ctrl+U in firefox to see it
 151 2015-03-06T15:43:01  <farhanthesheik> i'm guessing converted/html_out.py ?
 152 2015-03-06T15:43:04  <aabs08> you will see a lot of spaces and newlines in source code
 153 2015-03-06T15:43:45  <farhanthesheik> No no, i meant which method is responsible for generating the final html
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 156 2015-03-06T15:48:40  <aabs08> RogerHaase,  codereview issue #498 and #499 https://codereview.appspot.com/210910043/ .
 157 2015-03-06T15:49:02  <aabs08> farhanthesheik, don't know :( .
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 161 2015-03-06T16:23:06  <aabs08> RogerHaase,  while viewing the diff of 2 history of a item should we include date/time also with Revision, Editor, Size and Comments ?
 162 2015-03-06T16:25:01  <tonythomas> is there equivalent of https://moinmo.in/HowTo/UbuntuQuick for moin2.0 to install it with wsgi ?
 163 2015-03-06T16:25:44  <RogerHaase> aabs08: inho including date/time would be nice enhancement
 164 2015-03-06T16:26:20  <aabs08> will add it :)
 165 2015-03-06T16:27:59  <aabs08> I was also thinking of changing the diff button to "view diff" button as it took me same time to figure out how to see the diff
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 167 2015-03-06T16:28:18  <aabs08> a more readable name might help the user to find the button more easily
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 169 2015-03-06T16:29:12  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: no, just https://moin-20.readthedocs.org/en/latest/admin/serve.html
 170 2015-03-06T16:29:15  <aabs08> *some time
 171 2015-03-06T16:30:18  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: I can get the run in built-in server run - alright - but when it comes to deploying with apache, I am not able to find the moin.wsgi file :(
 172 2015-03-06T16:31:08  <aabs08> RogerHaase, ,probably because name "diff" is more close to the column name either then the button to view diff , should  I change it also ?
 173 2015-03-06T16:31:57  <aabs08> *either - rather , sorry for the typos
 174 2015-03-06T16:32:26  <RogerHaase> aabs08: "view diff" will take more horizontal space, does not add much more info.  In modernized view, the table is already wide
 175 2015-03-06T16:36:37  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: in apache config file you need something like WSGIScriptAlias   /moin2/   /home/web/moin2/moin2.wsgi/
 176 2015-03-06T16:37:53  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: read apache docs about how to install wsgi application
 177 2015-03-06T16:37:54  <aabs08> could we change the location of it towards end of the table ? It might be confusing for the user to see a button on the heading of the table
 178 2015-03-06T16:38:34  <aabs08> But that might also reduce the aesthetics of the page :/
 179 2015-03-06T16:39:10  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: ha. I did host the test.wsgi in docs/ examples / deployment /
 180 2015-03-06T16:39:39  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: but - there is still something bothering - I am not able to find anything like moin.2.wsgi/ in my moin2 clone
 181 2015-03-06T16:41:31  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: do you have a <Directory ... statement pointing to the directory containing moin2.wsgi?
 182 2015-03-06T16:41:52  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: in the apache config file ? no
 183 2015-03-06T16:42:38  <tonythomas> - but if you check https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/src/ac10a2e3eaf61e3e3a97bf66b832026f62909ccc?at=default - I dont see a moin.wsgi file
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 186 2015-03-06T17:01:27  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: hmmm, I was thinking there was a sample wsgi file in contrib/wsgi, but it is not there
 187 2015-03-06T17:01:49  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: yeah :( I too was looking for something like that
 188 2015-03-06T17:02:06  <tonythomas> I see more contents in moin1.9/wiki/ than moin2.0/wiki/
 189 2015-03-06T17:02:37  <tonythomas> there is a moin.wsgi in moin-1.9 / wiki / server /
 190 2015-03-06T17:02:40  <aabs08> RogerHaase, I solved adding time to the diff , should I prepare a new codereview with just this enhancement or keep on appending on issue #498 and #499 ?
 191 2015-03-06T17:05:41  <RogerHaase> aabs08: changesets should solve only 1 problem; so do new cr
 192 2015-03-06T17:06:18  <aabs08> ok , sorry for appending #498 and 499 .
 193 2015-03-06T17:10:47  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: try tailoring the copy from 1.9.  Somehow my copy shows 2010 copyright date, but I cannot find source
 194 2015-03-06T17:11:22  <tonythomas> tailoring ? - like copying wiki/ from 1.9 to 2.0/wiki/ ?
 195 2015-03-06T17:12:40  <aabs08> RogerHaase,  codereview for adding time in diff , https://codereview.appspot.com/209360043
 196 2015-03-06T17:13:25  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: no, copy the wsgi file to your clone root, fix where needed, point apache httpd.conf file to wsgi file
 197 2015-03-06T17:13:34  <aabs08> created issue #503 for it :)
 198 2015-03-06T17:15:01  <tonythomas> RogerHaase: hmm - okey - but should hte wsgi be inside the wiki/ ?
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 201 2015-03-06T17:23:10  <aabs08> RogerHaase,  during pull request also we should make 1 pr for every issue ? or in that we can append them?
 202 2015-03-06T17:27:26  <RogerHaase> aabs08: if you do 1 pull request on your repo, each new pushed commit gets appended to first pull request.  If you are able to a second pull request, maybe it sends an email; not sure
 203 2015-03-06T17:27:52  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  Hello
 204 2015-03-06T17:28:45  <aabs08> RogerHaase,  Thank you and good-bye .
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 206 2015-03-06T17:29:20  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi: moin :)
 207 2015-03-06T17:31:16  <_pjoshi> :)
 208 2015-03-06T17:31:49  <RogerHaase> tonythomas: well, can be anywhere but somehow paths must connect.  Maybe this will help, pretty messy http://pastebin.com/7AzR3zfU
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 218 2015-03-06T18:10:50  <vipul20> Hello ThomasWaldmann:  can you please review fix of issue #249 https://codereview.appspot.com/213780043/
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 225 2015-03-06T18:35:32  <skathpalia> moin
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 231 2015-03-06T19:38:50  <ThomasWaldmann> hi skathpalia
 232 2015-03-06T19:46:53  <aviraldg> ThomasWaldmann: What is the intended behaviour here (https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/353/footnote-doesnt-work-with-non-ascii)? Should it work both, when quoted and unquoted?
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 235 2015-03-06T19:58:10  <ThomasWaldmann> aviraldg: that issue does not state anything about quotes
 236 2015-03-06T19:59:11  <RogerHaase> aviraldg: the docs are not clear, I think the intent is that quotes are not required unless footnote has embedded ( or ) characters.  See also #476
 237 2015-03-06T20:00:27  <aviraldg> It does not, but from what I figure, escape sequences are allowed in quoted arguments and not otherwise. If that is true, fixing for the unquoted case is trivial. I couldn't find any specification in the docs, so...
 238 2015-03-06T20:03:09  <ThomasWaldmann> you should not need escape sequences for non-ascii chars
 239 2015-03-06T20:03:17  <ThomasWaldmann> it's just unicode
 240 2015-03-06T20:04:47  <aviraldg> true, so I wasn't so sure about what you meant here: https://codereview.appspot.com/8277048/diff/1/MoinMoin/converter/_args_wiki.py#newcode48
 241 2015-03-06T20:05:29  <ThomasWaldmann> me != waldi
 242 2015-03-06T20:05:48  <aviraldg> aha, my bad
 243 2015-03-06T20:06:02  <aviraldg> what did they mean?
 244 2015-03-06T20:06:50  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did you reproduce the issue before starting to fix it?
 245 2015-03-06T20:07:03  <aviraldg> yep
 246 2015-03-06T20:07:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then i suggest you comment on codereview about what's unclear and point waldi to it.
 247 2015-03-06T20:15:03  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  ping
 248 2015-03-06T20:15:50  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi: never ping, just ask or say what you want
 249 2015-03-06T20:17:15  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/463/access-denied-when-clicking-on-show-link in this issue can you tell me the reason for access denied ?
 250 2015-03-06T20:21:47  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi: I do not know, but I suspect there is something wrong with the links:  http://localhost:8080/+show/+b8b5a8bc213940619a13ddbe3cbbc51e/%40itemid/1b59d8967e8440e787652503f1e72372
 251 2015-03-06T20:24:06  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  Okay. Thanks :)
 252 2015-03-06T20:28:36  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi: on second look, do not know, as show link, meta link, download link... are all similar
 253 2015-03-06T20:28:48  <aviraldg> waldi: https://codereview.appspot.com/214880043
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 255 2015-03-06T20:37:43  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  Yeah they are all similar
 256 2015-03-06T20:38:24  <_pjoshi> but that /<rev>/<item_name> showing no data
 257 2015-03-06T20:39:39  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  I guess the show_item function have to be modified
 258 2015-03-06T20:39:41  <_pjoshi> ?
 259 2015-03-06T20:46:36  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi: that guess is as good as any that I have
 260 2015-03-06T20:50:12  <_pjoshi> RogerHaase:  What should be shown when we click on the show button ?
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 262 2015-03-06T20:57:13  <RogerHaase> _pjoshi:  Look at history of any non-ticket item and click Show link. There you see state of that revision.  I would expect tickets to work the same, although tickets have some quirks.
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 264 2015-03-06T21:13:38  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann:  update configuration rst docs and supporting files  https://codereview.appspot.com/208070043/
 265 2015-03-06T21:14:24  <aviraldg> RogerHaase: confused about how #476 should work. I think having it that way plus supporting argument parsing as it is may be difficult or impossible. Doesn't quoting the argument work just as well?
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 267 2015-03-06T21:29:55  <RogerHaase> aviraldg: I tested your patch, quoting works for the examples on #476. I think just update docs/user/moinwiki.rst to describe when quotes are needed.  When you try to do both single and double quotes within the footnote, one gets deleted, but that is minor.
 268 2015-03-06T21:31:06  <RogerHaase> only other way is to somehow turn off argument parsing for macros that do not expect multiple arguments
 269 2015-03-06T21:31:37  <aviraldg> My patch for #353? (works fine?)
 270 2015-03-06T21:33:09  <aviraldg> I'll update the docs, then ... turning off argument parsing selectively probably isn't worth it unless it makes a huge difference in migration
 271 2015-03-06T21:37:05  <RogerHaase> aviraldg: yes, works OK, with the exception that quotes within quotes is a bit quirky.
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 273 2015-03-06T21:40:44  <aviraldg> RogerHaase: I think I've found an issue, more of an annoyance really.
 274 2015-03-06T21:41:47  <aviraldg> logout works with GET ... embed an image with that URL on the homepage
 275 2015-03-06T21:42:03  <RogerHaase> aviraldg: oh, and the markup (bold, italic) within a footnote does not work. But then in 1.9 the docs say it does not work...?
 276 2015-03-06T21:45:38  <aviraldg> But it does work?
 277 2015-03-06T21:45:40  <aviraldg> btw, is that an issue worth looking into?
 278 2015-03-06T21:46:51  <RogerHaase> aviraldg: not sure, what is your markup for logout issue?
 279 2015-03-06T21:48:11  <aviraldg> transclusion, actually: {{http://localhost:8000/+logout?logout_submit=1}}
 280 2015-03-06T21:48:48  <aviraldg> logout probably shouldn't work just with GET
 281 2015-03-06T21:55:21  <RogerHaase> pretty cool effect, but clicking on logout link is also a get. I think no bug
 282 2015-03-06T21:56:04  <RogerHaase> gtg
 283 2015-03-06T21:56:07  <aviraldg> That doesn't log you out? Logging in redirects to the homepage, so loop.
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