1 2015-03-13T01:25:19 *** dumindux
2 2015-03-13T02:00:21 *** dumindux
3 2015-03-13T02:21:09 *** dumindux
4 2015-03-13T03:17:44 *** dumindux
5 2015-03-13T03:18:11 *** rohit043
6 2015-03-13T04:02:10 *** rohit043
7 2015-03-13T04:56:56 *** dumindux
8 2015-03-13T05:15:56 *** vipul20
9 2015-03-13T06:43:36 *** tonythomas
10 2015-03-13T07:16:11 *** krisgan
11 2015-03-13T07:51:12 *** aviraldg
12 2015-03-13T07:54:22 *** pjoshi
13 2015-03-13T08:13:19 *** rohit043
14 2015-03-13T08:16:59 *** rohit043
15 2015-03-13T08:31:34 *** rohit043
16 2015-03-13T08:34:28 *** greg_f
17 2015-03-13T09:03:20 *** rohit043
18 2015-03-13T09:04:30 *** rohit043
19 2015-03-13T09:15:18 *** bond007
20 2015-03-13T09:49:16 *** pjoshi
21 2015-03-13T09:50:40 *** pjoshi
22 2015-03-13T10:06:30 *** rohit043
23 2015-03-13T10:38:11 *** vipul20
24 2015-03-13T10:48:48 *** bond007_
25 2015-03-13T10:49:27 *** bond007
26 2015-03-13T10:53:01 *** rohit043
27 2015-03-13T10:59:24 *** bond007_
28 2015-03-13T11:17:13 *** pjoshi
29 2015-03-13T11:40:53 *** dumindux
30 2015-03-13T11:52:49 *** pjoshi
31 2015-03-13T12:05:59 *** grvanm
32 2015-03-13T12:43:56 *** dave_largo
33 2015-03-13T12:48:34 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Moin
34 2015-03-13T12:51:55 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Can't see my name on the project idea page as I am working for improving Moin issue tracker and Blog improvement ?
35 2015-03-13T13:00:02 <ThomasWaldmann> so?
36 2015-03-13T13:00:53 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: So just want to ask you that does it matter or not ?
37 2015-03-13T13:01:44 <ThomasWaldmann> matter for what?
38 2015-03-13T13:02:08 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Matter for GSOC'15
39 2015-03-13T13:02:38 <ThomasWaldmann> "
40 2015-03-13T13:02:40 <ThomasWaldmann> You may informally express your interest on the initial project ideas page. "
41 2015-03-13T13:04:06 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah I need to discuss with you about that issue tracker thing
42 2015-03-13T13:04:19 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Is it good time for that ?
43 2015-03-13T13:04:22 <ThomasWaldmann> it's just so that students and mentors can see how much interest is going to which ideas.
44 2015-03-13T13:04:34 <ThomasWaldmann> in the end, only applications in melange will count
45 2015-03-13T13:05:00 *** aviraldg
46 2015-03-13T13:05:10 <ThomasWaldmann> i have time for some short and specific questions
47 2015-03-13T13:06:16 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay. I want to ask you that it is good to implement a drop down for efforts and other tags on page
48 2015-03-13T13:06:17 <pjoshi> ?
49 2015-03-13T13:08:31 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you mean by "other tags"?
50 2015-03-13T13:09:12 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: difficulty,priority and severity
51 2015-03-13T13:09:30 <ThomasWaldmann> these are not tags, but scalar values
52 2015-03-13T13:10:13 <ThomasWaldmann> and a drop down seems not the best way to deal with them
53 2015-03-13T13:11:01 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay. Also we can add a Ticket topic with ticket summary and Show Ticket topic on the show ticket list in place of showing tickets with summary ?
54 2015-03-13T13:12:18 <ThomasWaldmann> it's unclear to me what you mean
55 2015-03-13T13:16:23 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Right now we have option of ticket summary and we show tickets on the list with ticket summary, Isn't it good to add a ticket name and show tickets with their name and user can summarize the ticket below ticket name ( similar to bitbucket issue tracker ) ?
56 2015-03-13T13:17:49 <ThomasWaldmann> tickets have no name (or at least shall have no name, is in "item name")
57 2015-03-13T13:18:18 <ThomasWaldmann> so the item id and the summary is the interesting stuff
58 2015-03-13T13:18:30 <ThomasWaldmann> as in*
59 2015-03-13T13:19:26 <ThomasWaldmann> (same goes for blog items)
60 2015-03-13T13:19:36 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather "blog entries")
61 2015-03-13T13:20:51 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: is it good to add option of inserting links and images in ticket summary
62 2015-03-13T13:22:38 <ThomasWaldmann> no
63 2015-03-13T13:22:59 <ThomasWaldmann> such stuff should rather go into the main ticket text
64 2015-03-13T13:23:26 *** bond007
65 2015-03-13T13:23:32 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: the comment area ?
66 2015-03-13T13:26:10 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: And also can you suggest some improvement for tickets, as I have corrected the ticket history showing "access Denied" thing
67 2015-03-13T13:28:48 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean the "data" part of such an item (not metadata). that part is using markup and rendered appropriately. so no issue to put links/images there.
68 2015-03-13T13:29:42 <ThomasWaldmann> most improvements needed are UI/UX. and if you want to work on such, i guess you should at least see them.
69 2015-03-13T13:33:26 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah I have seen few things like changing place for the comment section and also correcting the text area for the Tags and summary like this, right ?
70 2015-03-13T13:34:02 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't have that right in front of me now
71 2015-03-13T13:35:57 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Also one more thing The other topic for validating the wiki content so what are we supposed to do basically ?
72 2015-03-13T13:37:24 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: As we have wiki content and have their meta data also so is there any current functionality or feature that helps in validating the data or we have to create some feature that helps in validating he data ?
73 2015-03-13T13:40:37 <ThomasWaldmann> there is no validation (in that sense) yet
74 2015-03-13T13:41:46 <ThomasWaldmann> but if you look at revision metadata, you find something useful for validation
75 2015-03-13T13:44:46 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: revision metadata, you talking about docs ?
76 2015-03-13T13:45:46 <ThomasWaldmann> look at constants.keys
77 2015-03-13T13:53:21 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay I had look into that, the idea is to use these tags and have to check the content of MOIN, right ?
78 2015-03-13T13:55:33 *** pjoshi
79 2015-03-13T13:59:02 *** pjoshi
80 2015-03-13T13:59:24 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Sorry network issue
81 2015-03-13T13:59:26 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay I had look into that, the idea is to use these tags and have to check the content of MOIN, right ?
82 2015-03-13T13:59:26 <pjoshi> pjoshi
83 2015-03-13T13:59:26 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: one question, validating wiki content means we have write some script so that it always checks for metadata(from keys) and check it for the content ?
84 2015-03-13T14:23:37 *** grvanm
85 2015-03-13T14:25:41 *** bond007
86 2015-03-13T14:27:22 <ThomasWaldmann> pjoshi: a consistency checking script, basically
87 2015-03-13T14:29:04 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah so basically when ever a new content is created the script will check for the content with the meta tags from the constant.keys ?
88 2015-03-13T14:30:31 *** vipul20
89 2015-03-13T14:31:55 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: I didn't the part " to check for the content is still valid ". How can validation of the content is lost ?
90 2015-03-13T14:42:05 *** bond007
91 2015-03-13T14:44:15 <ThomasWaldmann> pjoshi: no. rather like fsck.
92 2015-03-13T14:51:21 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: can you please elaborate how content can be validated with tags according to file system consistency check
93 2015-03-13T14:51:23 <pjoshi> ?
94 2015-03-13T15:12:45 * ThomasWaldmann won't write proposal texts
95 2015-03-13T15:14:33 *** pjoshi
96 2015-03-13T15:22:50 *** dumindux
97 2015-03-13T15:30:17 *** dumindux
98 2015-03-13T15:39:34 *** jhermann
99 2015-03-13T15:42:42 *** dumindux
100 2015-03-13T16:08:50 *** pjoshi
101 2015-03-13T16:11:26 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay that I will work on. Can you just please tell me that how can we check that content is corrupted or not with the help of metadata ?
102 2015-03-13T16:12:43 <ThomasWaldmann> if you just have a look at the metadata (keys), that might jump at you
103 2015-03-13T16:18:14 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: We need to check if the content related to metadata contains these metadata values, like if we take an example we have metadata for tickets so we will check that the ticket content contains that metadata or not, is it true ?
104 2015-03-13T16:23:01 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: That is what came to my mind related to that issue, Am I on right track ?
105 2015-03-13T16:24:01 <ThomasWaldmann> that sounds confused :)
106 2015-03-13T16:24:33 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: I am really confused :/ .
107 2015-03-13T16:24:34 <ThomasWaldmann> you would just go over storage contents and check if metadata and data there looks consistent
108 2015-03-13T16:25:08 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: on what grounds should we check for consistency ?
109 2015-03-13T16:25:12 <ThomasWaldmann> and there are some ways to check that, which you should find out yourself (not difficult)
110 2015-03-13T16:25:17 *** dumindux
111 2015-03-13T16:26:09 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, that idea is not for a full gsoc, it's just for a part of the time
112 2015-03-13T16:26:17 *** dumindux
113 2015-03-13T16:27:12 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: oh. I see
114 2015-03-13T16:28:04 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: then I should focus more on improving Moin.
115 2015-03-13T16:30:09 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Is it okay if I propose things that need to be improved, may be these things includes tickets + blogs + some other Moin improvement of other part in one proposal ?
116 2015-03-13T16:31:21 <ThomasWaldmann> you should assemble it in a way that your realistic plan fits about one full gsoc
117 2015-03-13T16:33:08 <ThomasWaldmann> it should be somehow specific, so one can see whether you are on schedule / reached goals or not
118 2015-03-13T16:34:01 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Yeah will take care of that thing.
119 2015-03-13T16:34:04 <ThomasWaldmann> for the time at the end of gsoc it is ok to have some "if time permits, i do ..."
120 2015-03-13T16:34:22 *** dumindux
121 2015-03-13T16:34:36 <ThomasWaldmann> but that ... shall not be docs or tests which you should've written together with code
122 2015-03-13T16:35:16 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Sure.
123 2015-03-13T16:36:32 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: so this content validation is not a part of GSOC (as a alone project) , right ?
124 2015-03-13T16:36:52 <ThomasWaldmann> you'ld be finished too early :)
125 2015-03-13T16:39:27 <vipul20> Hello ThomasWaldmann: Regarding issue #249 I've written the code to redirect to /+history using item id instead of itemname IF more history is available
126 2015-03-13T16:39:33 <vipul20> if you can please review https://codereview.appspot.com/213780043/
127 2015-03-13T16:41:12 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: did you do first review yourself?
128 2015-03-13T16:42:10 <vipul20> yes I tried that code. I am having a doubt which I've also commented in the code
129 2015-03-13T16:42:32 <bond007> ThomasWaldmann: mine is also pending for CR https://codereview.appspot.com/215820043
130 2015-03-13T16:44:45 *** vpv
131 2015-03-13T16:45:37 *** vpv
132 2015-03-13T16:48:58 *** dumindux
133 2015-03-13T16:49:20 *** bond007_
134 2015-03-13T16:50:38 *** bond007
135 2015-03-13T16:58:43 <bond007_> ThomasWaldmann: Any other project idea which is too small to be considered as a full time gsoc project?
136 2015-03-13T17:00:19 *** dumindux
137 2015-03-13T17:01:01 <ThomasWaldmann> in general you should see that yourself when planning stuff.
138 2015-03-13T17:01:36 <ThomasWaldmann> as we do not know you, we can hardly estimate your speed / how much field knowledge you have on specific fields.
139 2015-03-13T17:02:18 <ThomasWaldmann> trash and purge maybe is also just a part
140 2015-03-13T17:04:31 <bond007_> Okey!
141 2015-03-13T17:14:27 *** dumindux
142 2015-03-13T17:21:12 *** aviraldg
143 2015-03-13T17:23:40 *** dumindux
144 2015-03-13T17:34:30 *** aviraldg
145 2015-03-13T18:10:41 *** pjoshi
146 2015-03-13T18:14:50 *** pjoshi
147 2015-03-13T18:22:39 *** grvanm
148 2015-03-13T18:30:05 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: The userprofile thing is not implemented yet in moin, right ?
149 2015-03-13T18:35:54 <ThomasWaldmann> thing?
150 2015-03-13T18:36:33 *** greg_f
151 2015-03-13T18:36:35 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: I mean the whole userprofile system
152 2015-03-13T18:37:02 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: a profile page for each user which he/she can edit
153 2015-03-13T18:38:07 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you misunderstood
154 2015-03-13T18:38:47 <ThomasWaldmann> a userprofile is an item where the user settings, attributes and pw hash is stored
155 2015-03-13T18:39:30 <ThomasWaldmann> and that already exists, it is used when you log in
156 2015-03-13T18:41:57 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Oh.. I see. And There are 2 types of login system in MOIN one for admin and other for superuser, right ?
157 2015-03-13T18:42:20 <ThomasWaldmann> no, login is same for everybody
158 2015-03-13T18:42:54 <ThomasWaldmann> but the permissions you get are controlled by ACLs
159 2015-03-13T18:45:41 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: okay, in the user view we have an option of userprofile , when we click on that we get item not found
160 2015-03-13T18:45:56 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: this needs to be fixed, right ?
161 2015-03-13T18:46:42 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: as a user can see his/her settings, attributes and pw hash ?
162 2015-03-13T18:49:12 <ThomasWaldmann> userprofile is also a namespace and might show up in the namespaces list, in case you mean that
163 2015-03-13T18:49:33 <ThomasWaldmann> (although you can't do anything useful right now in that namespace)
164 2015-03-13T18:51:30 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Yeah it is under namespace section but when we click on userprofile , it must show the settings of the user who is logged in ?
165 2015-03-13T18:53:39 *** rohit043
166 2015-03-13T18:55:07 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Why can't I see anything useful in that namespace ?
167 2015-03-13T18:58:33 <ThomasWaldmann> likely because it is not meant to be used that way.
168 2015-03-13T18:59:00 <ThomasWaldmann> that namespaces list makes more sense if you have other normal namespaces set up
169 2015-03-13T18:59:43 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Okay.
170 2015-03-13T19:00:02 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: And when we create ticket and teh
171 2015-03-13T19:00:11 <pjoshi> *then update the ticket
172 2015-03-13T19:01:57 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: In the history of the ticket we get two entries but for the first entry of the ticket creation if we click on the item id it again show a table which contains the entry one with the exact name of the ticket
173 2015-03-13T19:03:26 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: I can't understand why this thing is happening as the update ticket entry doesn't lead us to a new view
174 2015-03-13T19:04:28 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: have I made myself clear ?
175 2015-03-13T19:05:29 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't have a running moin in front of me right now, so I can't reproduce. thus "no".
176 2015-03-13T19:08:46 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: Oh. Okay one more thing as we discussed earlier also the link for the history item of the tickets as updated history again shows the same view
177 2015-03-13T19:10:15 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: the items in the tables shown under "HIST" contains the link, so I don't think there is a need of providing link to the item ?
178 2015-03-13T19:10:40 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you need more complex test data
179 2015-03-13T19:11:10 <ThomasWaldmann> like items with changing names, more than one names, a specific name being assing to different itemids
180 2015-03-13T19:11:25 <ThomasWaldmann> assigned*
181 2015-03-13T19:13:34 <vipul20> hello ThomasWaldmann I have a question regarding issue #249
182 2015-03-13T19:13:50 <vipul20> I don't know what will be better: Redirecting explicitly to history using itemid when more history is available OR
183 2015-03-13T19:14:04 <vipul20> giving an option in the template by providing a link to history using itemid
184 2015-03-13T19:14:29 <vipul20> in the 2nd method a user can see history by itemname as well as he/she can click the itemid to view history by itemid
185 2015-03-13T19:14:48 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: So in case of tickets the item_id for created ticket links to exact_name of the ticket history and the item_id for the updated tickets links to same same history
186 2015-03-13T19:16:14 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: the "when more history is available" part of your question is unclear to me
187 2015-03-13T19:17:13 <vipul20> means when an item has been renamed then there should be more history available i.e. the rename history which will not be available as /+history gives result based on itemname
188 2015-03-13T19:17:14 <ThomasWaldmann> pjoshi: that sounds like a bug, but i didn't verify
189 2015-03-13T19:19:59 <pjoshi> ThomasWaldmann: yeah seems like that because in case of tickets under "HIST" the table contains the history of one ticket but the link for item_id of the created ticket will show the history view where table will have one entry of the exact name of that ticket
190 2015-03-13T19:20:08 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: maybe an explicit switch from name-based view to itemid-based view is best. don't we already have that?
191 2015-03-13T19:20:37 <vipul20> no that's what i tried to do here https://codereview.appspot.com/213780043/
192 2015-03-13T19:21:43 <vipul20> if there was an 'old_name' of any item then, the user is redirected to itemid-based view
193 2015-03-13T19:22:21 <vipul20> but if you can tell me whether I've done it correctly or not ?
194 2015-03-13T19:24:05 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: looking at cr ...
195 2015-03-13T19:39:45 <ThomasWaldmann> vipul20: ok, some comments. didn't try code or look at code not visible there.
196 2015-03-13T19:40:46 *** pjoshi
197 2015-03-13T19:41:12 *** aviraldg
198 2015-03-13T19:46:25 *** pjoshi
199 2015-03-13T20:01:56 *** penguinRaider
200 2015-03-13T20:12:21 *** aviraldg
201 2015-03-13T20:14:36 *** tonythomas
202 2015-03-13T20:16:06 *** pjoshi
203 2015-03-13T20:29:59 *** pjoshi
204 2015-03-13T20:53:49 *** bond007_
205 2015-03-13T21:02:55 *** dave_largo
206 2015-03-13T22:20:41 *** pjoshi
207 2015-03-13T22:41:47 *** penguinRaider
208 2015-03-13T23:57:17 *** dumindux
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