MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-05-15

2007-05-15T00:02:39  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: should we use for that a new key 'classifications' ?
2007-05-15T00:04:25  <dreimark> cache = caching.CacheEntry(request, newpage, 'classifications', scope='item') ?
2007-05-15T00:05:34  <xorAxAx> dreimark: the cache directory should only get files that may be deleted without losing any information
2007-05-15T00:05:48  <neagulm> thanx
2007-05-15T00:06:05  <ThomasWaldmann> what exactly is in that cache?
2007-05-15T00:06:09  <xorAxAx> clearly, a classification isnt that, except if you have a short term memory loss condition and want to model that :)
2007-05-15T00:07:24  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, only the result of the classification: SPAM/HAM if we do spam checking
2007-05-15T00:07:50  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, In the general case: CATEGORY1/CATEGORY2/.../CATEGORYN
2007-05-15T00:08:12  <ThomasWaldmann> classes
2007-05-15T00:08:53  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: the classification can be re-done
2007-05-15T00:09:35  <dreimark> Sorry, I have to leave. Because I have to give a friend of me a lift from the train station.
2007-05-15T00:10:06  <neagulm> dreimark, ok
2007-05-15T00:10:10  <ThomasWaldmann> neagulm: i dont get the sense of that classification cache yet
2007-05-15T00:10:16  <xorAxAx> neagulm: is it ensured that applying the algorithm on the current corpii gives the same result as the current classification?
2007-05-15T00:10:16  <neagulm> dreimark, good night
2007-05-15T00:10:29  <dreimark> good night all
2007-05-15T00:10:34  <xorAxAx> gn dreimark
2007-05-15T00:10:36  <ThomasWaldmann> in a wiki, you usually have ONLY ham, so why should there ever be a page classified as spam?
2007-05-15T00:10:43  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2007-05-15T00:11:23  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, I don't think that we should enforce the result of the classification to the system.
2007-05-15T00:11:49  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, I think this because the Bayesian Classification is statistical... It is not perfect
2007-05-15T00:12:09  <xorAxAx> neagulm: did you see my question?
2007-05-15T00:13:06  <neagulm> xorAxAx, yes. the algorithm should yeld the same result
2007-05-15T00:14:04  <ThomasWaldmann> and do you want to keep that 2 actions user interface?
2007-05-15T00:14:33  <ThomasWaldmann> or rather use something similar to diff button on history page?
2007-05-15T00:14:53  <xorAxAx> neagulm: then reimars line looks ok
2007-05-15T00:15:40  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, I was thinking about the same thing. I don't want to keep the same UI
2007-05-15T00:16:29  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, something similar to the diff button is ok for me
2007-05-15T00:16:34  <ThomasWaldmann> neagulm: so that cache content drives some display on the theme?
2007-05-15T00:17:04  <xorAxAx> neagulm: how is the cache invalidated?
2007-05-15T00:17:04  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, yes.
2007-05-15T00:17:17  <xorAxAx> neagulm: the corpii might yield different results after a period of time
2007-05-15T00:17:49  <neagulm> xorAxAx, expiration (10-15 minutes) or page editing
2007-05-15T00:18:32  <xorAxAx> ok :)
2007-05-15T00:18:55  <neagulm> xorAxAx, I have in mind a big moinmoin instance like moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de where it would not be ok to do the reclassification on every page display
2007-05-15T00:19:05  <xorAxAx> yeah
2007-05-15T00:19:33  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, did you have a look on my PoC v1.5 ?
2007-05-15T00:25:43  <neagulm> I have to leave, its 01:25 AM and at 08:00 I must be at school :)
2007-05-15T00:26:26  <xorAxAx> here its 00:25 and i have to be at university at 9:00 :)
2007-05-15T00:26:31  <xorAxAx> good night :)
2007-05-15T00:27:07  <neagulm> good night
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2007-05-15T09:40:05  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-05-15T17:59:43  <dreimark> moin
2007-05-15T18:10:29  <neagulm> hello
2007-05-15T19:06:59  <grzywacz> moin moin
2007-05-15T19:17:46  <dreimark> bbl
2007-05-15T22:57:05  <dreimark> bb