MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-07-08

2007-07-08T00:25:49  <zenhase> hmm
2007-07-08T00:26:36  <zenhase> quite irritating ... RecentChanges does not show the edit from before the day changed
2007-07-08T00:26:53  <zenhase> is this a bug or intended in some way?
2007-07-08T00:28:17  <xorAxAx> ?
2007-07-08T00:28:39  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess it is intended
2007-07-08T00:31:23  <zenhase> xorAxAx: the edit on FlorianKrupicka/DesignPaper from around 21:30
2007-07-08T00:31:35  <xorAxAx> CEST or UTC?
2007-07-08T00:31:57  <xorAxAx> note that RC uses the timezone you configured in your user prefs
2007-07-08T00:32:20  <zenhase> i configured CEST
2007-07-08T00:32:48  <zenhase> and it is shown as '21:11:xx' in the 'info' for the page
2007-07-08T00:33:11  <xorAxAx> do you have a bookmark set?
2007-07-08T00:33:45  <zenhase> none that i know of
2007-07-08T00:33:58  <xorAxAx> well, it would be shown to you on the RC page
2007-07-08T00:34:35  <zenhase> how to bookmarks and edits showing up in RC relate to each other?
2007-07-08T00:34:43  <zenhase> s/how to/how do/
2007-07-08T00:35:19  <ThomasWaldmann> rc shows any changed page once
2007-07-08T00:35:29  <xorAxAx> moin knows the concept of bookmarks ... they change the way entries in RC are shown (e.g. the icon in the first column) and if they are shown (because the bookmark itself marks the starting point)
2007-07-08T00:35:45  <xorAxAx> yes, all edits are grouped together and shown at the newest place
2007-07-08T00:35:57  <xorAxAx> zenhase: would you have them expected to be at the oldest place?
2007-07-08T00:36:12  <zenhase> no, but it only shows this single edit
2007-07-08T00:36:24  <xorAxAx> for me it shows 3 edits on that page while being logged out
2007-07-08T00:36:28  <ThomasWaldmann> today there was only a single edit
2007-07-08T00:36:35  <zenhase> i knew that moin groups edits, but i expected those little numbers to appear with the different edit-comments
2007-07-08T00:36:47  <zenhase> a ok
2007-07-08T00:36:56  <zenhase> so it's because of the day change
2007-07-08T00:37:09  <zenhase> otherwise it would show more edits?
2007-07-08T00:38:15  <xorAxAx> Florian Krupicka/Design Papervor 10mFlorianKrupicka [1-3]
2007-07-08T00:38:23  <xorAxAx> but thats URC
2007-07-08T00:38:25  <xorAxAx> s/R/T
2007-07-08T00:38:52  <xorAxAx> zenhase: yeah, its grouping them by date
2007-07-08T00:38:55  <xorAxAx> in your TZ
2007-07-08T00:38:58  <zenhase> hmm ok, must be something with me being logged in
2007-07-08T00:39:31  <xorAxAx> well, you should see 2 from yesterday and 1 from today
2007-07-08T00:39:36  <xorAxAx> because your TZ is CEST
2007-07-08T00:40:24  <zenhase> as said, when logged in i only see one edit, when logged out it appears as it appears as you posted
2007-07-08T00:40:34  <zenhase> oops
2007-07-08T00:40:42  <zenhase> looping in the sentence
2007-07-08T00:41:03  <zenhase> well, now i know
2007-07-08T00:41:25  <xorAxAx> hmm, yes
2007-07-08T00:42:07  <zenhase> ah and something other (which i could look into myself): usertrail display is broken on safari it seems
2007-07-08T00:42:57  <zenhase> the separators sometimes show, sometimes they don't ... and this switches wildly while hovering over the trail o_O
2007-07-08T00:43:56  <zenhase> i take a short cigarette break and be right back
2007-07-08T00:44:19  * ThomasWaldmann .sleep() - I will be offline most of the day tomorrow, maybe back online tomorrow evening from Vilnius.
2007-07-08T00:50:02  <zenhase> gn8 thomas
2007-07-08T00:52:22  <xorAxAx> gneight sounds funny :)
2007-07-08T00:58:04  <zenhase> hmm, i am too accustomed to it on german irc ... i never thought about how it sounds in the english language
2007-07-08T00:58:26  <xorAxAx> many people do(nt) :)
2007-07-08T01:03:52  * xorAxAx spotted a merge commit by lanius with a comment that doesnt have the word "merge" in it - confusing :)
2007-07-08T01:04:57  <xorAxAx> 2 even
2007-07-08T01:05:07  <xorAxAx> (cf. http://hg.alexanderweb.de/moin-1.7-storage-hwendel/branchview/31b9520dd97b )
2007-07-08T01:27:58  <zenhase> :>
2007-07-08T01:50:41  <zenhase> i am currently in a discussion with one of the trac guys
2007-07-08T01:52:50  <zenhase> i wanted to have an external opinion on what i wrote on the wiki page
2007-07-08T01:54:06  <zenhase> quite interesting input, he thinks that one of the main problems is the lack of an architecture for dataflow in moin
2007-07-08T01:54:50  <zenhase> which is why some parts are so tightly coupled
2007-07-08T10:58:33  <tic> Moo.  I haven't looked very deeply into it, but would you consider the first H1 of a page as its title? (in the same way that =====\n Title\n ==== _is_ the title of a RST page)
2007-07-08T10:58:56  <tic> because I'd like Navigation(children) (and Include()) to display the /titles/ instead of the URLs
2007-07-08T10:59:26  <tic> (or the "location" div, for that matter)
2007-07-08T11:09:08  <tic> FeatureRequests/CustomPageTitle maybe.
2007-07-08T12:24:21  <vpv> Moin. Is 1.7 main mergeable again?
2007-07-08T12:25:25  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-07-08T12:27:46  <vpv> ok
2007-07-08T13:18:24  <tic> uh, I can't upgrade from 1.5.8 to 1.6 (trunk) using a farmconfig.
2007-07-08T13:18:35  <tic> AttributeError: 'Request' object has no attribute 'cfg'
2007-07-08T13:19:24  <tic> So the upgrade stuff isn't supported using farmconfig...?
2007-07-08T13:21:47  <tic> in my farmconfig.py I've specified a name, and I have a corresponding .py file in the same directory.
2007-07-08T13:22:47  <tic> http://rafb.net/p/HBMcwQ21.html
2007-07-08T13:24:28  <tic> a-ha! I can't use http://.... for the wiki-url option.
2007-07-08T14:17:57  <CIA-27> moin: Marian Neagul marian@info.uvt.ro work * 2320:67410804d190 1.7-classify-mneagul/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Separate tokenizer.
2007-07-08T14:18:00  <CIA-27> moin: Marian Neagul marian@info.uvt.ro work * 2321:df70696dbf86 1.7-classify-mneagul/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Small changes in the caching interface. Initial and incomplete interface for SpamBayes XML-RPC
2007-07-08T14:33:00  <tic> am I supposed to use "format text_rst" now instead of "rst"?
2007-07-08T14:34:59  <tic> (in 1.6)
2007-07-08T14:55:03  <tic> nevermind, again. Heh.
2007-07-08T16:22:34  <lanius_> xorAxAx: i accidently deleted too much, i also deleted tests/wikiconfig.py
2007-07-08T16:23:24  <xorAxAx> so?
2007-07-08T16:28:15  <lanius_> that's why my tests didn't work anymore
2007-07-08T16:28:22  <xorAxAx> ah
2007-07-08T16:28:31  <xorAxAx> did you read:
2007-07-08T16:28:31  <xorAxAx> 01:03:52  * xorAxAx spotted a merge commit by lanius with a comment that doesnt have the word "merge" in it - confusing :)
2007-07-08T16:29:19  <lanius_> yes, i merged, forgot to commit and changed other stuff as well
2007-07-08T16:29:38  <xorAxAx> ugh!
2007-07-08T22:04:08  <CIA-27> moin: Heinrich Wendel <h_wendel@cojobo.net> * 2389:cb37e5b354a9 1.7-storage-hwendel/MoinMoin/ (8 files in 3 dirs): performance
2007-07-08T22:05:13  <xorAxAx> :-)
2007-07-08T22:07:59  <tic> Should I add bugs directly to MoinMoinBugs?
2007-07-08T22:08:40  <tic> (MoinMoin-1.6: ReStructuredText not parsed correctly by Include() macro, as seen in http://mikael.jansson.be/news vs http://mikael.jansson.be/ )
2007-07-08T22:27:38  <xorAxAx> tic: yes, see at the bottom
2007-07-08T22:56:58  <tic> problem is I don't even know if it's a bug.
2007-07-08T22:57:10  <tic> as in, should Include care about the format of a page or not?
2007-07-08T22:57:29  <xorAxAx> include expects the page to be rest
2007-07-08T22:57:42  <xorAxAx> hmm
2007-07-08T22:57:44  <xorAxAx> or not :)
2007-07-08T22:57:46  <tic> Exactly.
2007-07-08T22:57:58  <tic> in fact, it seems as if it doesn't care about the input format at all.
2007-07-08T22:58:02  <xorAxAx> include should behave like its documented by the code :)
2007-07-08T22:58:06  <xorAxAx> that means?
2007-07-08T22:58:18  <tic> not quite sure yet...
2007-07-08T22:58:29  <xorAxAx> something should somehow work
2007-07-08T22:58:34  <tic> look at http://mikael.jansson.be ("itsopen") and compare to http://mikael.jansson.be/news
2007-07-08T22:59:21  <xorAxAx> wrong channel btw
2007-07-08T22:59:23  <xorAxAx> see #moin
2007-07-08T22:59:43  <tic> well, this is about the /dev/ version of moin, so I figured it'd be the one.
2007-07-08T23:00:14  <xorAxAx> nope, wrong :)
2007-07-08T23:00:19  <xorAxAx> see topic :)
2007-07-08T23:00:23  <xorAxAx> hi my student
2007-07-08T23:01:22  <grzywacz> hello
2007-07-08T23:01:27  <grzywacz> I'm back for good.
2007-07-08T23:01:34  <xorAxAx> and i am gone for exams
2007-07-08T23:01:36  <grzywacz> (which means till end summer, prolly)
2007-07-08T23:01:40  <grzywacz> Well, good luck.
2007-07-08T23:01:45  <xorAxAx> summer ended in may
2007-07-08T23:01:48  <grzywacz> I sent my gf abroad, I have time to code now.
2007-07-08T23:01:49  <grzywacz> ;)
2007-07-08T23:01:49  <xorAxAx> at least in germany
2007-07-08T23:01:55  <xorAxAx> where is she?
2007-07-08T23:01:56  <grzywacz> Orly? Weird.
2007-07-08T23:01:59  <grzywacz> Norway.
2007-07-08T23:02:03  <grzywacz> Getting soaked in a tent.
2007-07-08T23:02:28  <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-07-08T23:02:50  <xorAxAx> well, starting from june, it has been wet and cold here
2007-07-08T23:02:58  <grzywacz> Yes, unfortunately.
2007-07-08T23:02:59  <xorAxAx> today being an exception to that rule
2007-07-08T23:03:14  <lanius_> don't be afraight it will be raining again tomorrow
2007-07-08T23:03:26  <xorAxAx> :-)
2007-07-08T23:03:47  <xorAxAx> yeah, actually good so that i dont have to sweat in the room where i will be wrting the exam for 4 hours
2007-07-08T23:04:22  <grzywacz> So, I return and my psi profile is gone.
2007-07-08T23:04:23  <grzywacz> Like wtf?
2007-07-08T23:04:35  <grzywacz> Reiser the thief?
2007-07-08T23:05:12  <xorAxAx> psi is a mysterious greek character anyway
2007-07-08T23:05:54  <grzywacz> With amnesia.
2007-07-08T23:06:08  * grzywacz coffee & coding (finally)
2007-07-08T23:06:31  <xorAxAx> The letters ? or ? can also be a symbol for:
2007-07-08T23:06:31  <xorAxAx> psychology, psychiatry, and sometimes parapsychology (particularly in fiction.).
2007-07-08T23:06:40  <xorAxAx> The Schrodinger Equation and throughout quantum mechanics, ?(x) stands for the wave function
2007-07-08T23:06:47  <xorAxAx> hah, it tunneled itself to /dev/null!
2007-07-08T23:07:01  <xorAxAx> In virology the ψ site is a viral packaging signal.
2007-07-08T23:26:59  <grzywacz> heh