MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-12-24

2007-12-24T00:00:16  <xorAxAx> and the wikisync code thinks that every fault means "too old" :)
2007-12-24T00:00:33  <xorAxAx> well, because interwikiName() is not supposed to fail
2007-12-24T00:00:44  <xorAxAx> (and its not harmful either)
2007-12-24T00:01:48  <dreimark> actions_exluded = [] in wikiconfig needed
2007-12-24T00:02:25  <bolekk> dreimark: but in which wiki ?
2007-12-24T00:02:39  <bolekk> the one im syncing from ?
2007-12-24T00:03:57  <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-24T00:04:21  <xorAxAx> bolekk: but you will never see the password form if you do not supply a user name btw
2007-12-24T00:04:32  <xorAxAx> bolekk: (which is explained on the help page)
2007-12-24T00:04:33  <bolekk> ?
2007-12-24T00:04:36  <bolekk> ok
2007-12-24T00:05:52  <bolekk> I set the user and actions_excluded but it's still too old
2007-12-24T00:06:33  <cb22> xorAxAx: sorted
2007-12-24T00:08:33  <cb22> wait
2007-12-24T00:08:49  <xorAxAx> ok
2007-12-24T00:13:06  <cb22> xorAxAx: ok, up
2007-12-24T00:13:21  <cb22> i just found two other calls that needed converting
2007-12-24T00:14:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: maybe first try to reproduce the problem
2007-12-24T00:14:40  <ernestas> use ar as locale?
2007-12-24T00:14:46  <ernestas> or any other?
2007-12-24T00:15:25  <bolekk> dreimark: can I get the pagename that contains a macro in that macro's coe ?
2007-12-24T00:15:27  <bolekk> code
2007-12-24T00:15:44  <ernestas> and what should I do with umask? just try with the default one and if something's wrong try with another one?
2007-12-24T00:15:45  <xorAxAx> cb22: the patch is malformed
2007-12-24T00:15:46  <bolekk> dreimark: by macro.request .. ?
2007-12-24T00:16:06  <xorAxAx> cb22: repaired it manually
2007-12-24T00:16:57  <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2964:49b9e807a51d 1.7/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py:
2007-12-24T00:16:57  <CIA-34> moin: Added add_msg to the theme interface (done by Frederico Lorenzi). Should not be backported to 1.6
2007-12-24T00:16:57  <CIA-34> moin: but instead the separate patch from http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=51
2007-12-24T00:16:57  <CIA-34> moin: should be used because it contains deprecation logic.
2007-12-24T00:17:00  <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2965:4d60ea3a4ca7 1.7/wiki/htdocs/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
2007-12-24T00:17:03  <CIA-34> moin: Support for the new css classes generated by add_msg in the themes (done by Frederico Lorenzi).Should not be backported to 1.6 but
2007-12-24T00:17:06  <CIA-34> moin: instead the separate patch from http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=51
2007-12-24T00:17:09  <CIA-34> moin: should be used because it contains deprecation logic.
2007-12-24T00:17:11  <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2966:ba14d391c2ba 1.7/MoinMoin/ (27 files in 2 dirs):
2007-12-24T00:17:14  <CIA-34> moin: Refactor all modules to use the new add_msg interface in 1.7 (done by Frederico Lorenzi). Should not be backported to 1.6 but
2007-12-24T00:17:17  <CIA-34> moin: instead the separate patch from http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=51 should
2007-12-24T00:17:26  <CIA-34> moin: be used.
2007-12-24T00:17:26  <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2967:a310264ad186 1.7/MoinMoin/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Added a few add_msg calls (by Federico Lorenzi).
2007-12-24T00:17:40  <xorAxAx> cb22: ok, neat, i will close the task now :)
2007-12-24T00:17:47  <cb22> xorAxAx: cool :)
2007-12-24T00:17:53  <cb22> btw, what was wrong with the diff?
2007-12-24T00:18:30  <xorAxAx> cb22: empty line was missing
2007-12-24T00:19:18  <cb22> hmm, i really should be using hg diff, shouldn't ii :)
2007-12-24T00:19:24  <xorAxAx> yes :)
2007-12-24T00:21:04  * cb22 claims #49
2007-12-24T00:26:41  <dreimark> bolekk: yes it is macro.formatter.page.page_name
2007-12-24T00:28:00  <bolekk> dreimark: thanks, I've already found this one :)
2007-12-24T00:34:20  * dreimark comments on 49
2007-12-24T00:44:28  <ernestas_> ThomasWaldmann, where are moin logs located?
2007-12-24T00:44:39  <ernestas_> I mean local logs
2007-12-24T00:45:35  <dreimark> ernestas_: data dir and in page dir
2007-12-24T00:45:42  <ernestas_> ok
2007-12-24T00:47:06  <bolekk> dreimark: and what about getting pagename in a theme
2007-12-24T00:47:07  <bolekk> ?
2007-12-24T00:48:47  <bolekk> dreimark: oh, self.request.page.page_name is working , is it ok ?
2007-12-24T01:04:26  <dreimark> btw.  Merry Christmas!
2007-12-24T01:05:08  <ernestas_> You too! :)
2007-12-24T01:06:16  <bolekk> heh , Merry Christmas :)
2007-12-24T01:07:55  <bolekk> dreimark: I've finished with those forms, you can look at my patch on google page if you have some time. I still haven't managed to see this form for syncing pages and i don't know how to this in widget/browser.py
2007-12-24T01:09:04  <xorAxAx> weird, http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/list?can=2&q=status%3Aactionneeded%2Cclaimed&sort=enddate&colspec=ID+Status+ClaimedBy+EndDate+Summary&x=status&y=claimedby&cells=tiles isnt showing
2007-12-24T01:09:08  <xorAxAx> ... #43
2007-12-24T01:09:24  <xorAxAx> yes, merry xmas
2007-12-24T01:10:57  <bolekk> xorAxAx: strange ...
2007-12-24T01:12:45  <xorAxAx> google fun
2007-12-24T01:12:47  <xorAxAx> good night
2007-12-24T01:12:52  <ernestas_> gn xorAxAx
2007-12-24T01:12:54  <cb22> hmm, happy christmas eve :)
2007-12-24T01:13:08  <cb22> night xorAxAx
2007-12-24T01:13:39  <dreimark> gn xorAxAx
2007-12-24T01:13:49  <bolekk> gn xorAxAx
2007-12-24T01:14:17  <dreimark> bolekk: will look in some hours
2007-12-24T01:14:25  <dreimark> good night all
2007-12-24T01:14:42  <bolekk> good night dreimark
2007-12-24T01:14:59  <cb22> night dreimark
2007-12-24T01:17:11  <CIA-34> moin: Heinrich Wendel <h_wendel@cojobo.net> default * 3195:7b0d693bc605 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (11 files in 6 dirs): make the 1.7 backend work completly
2007-12-24T01:20:09  <bolekk> good night everyone
2007-12-24T01:20:14  <ernestas_> yeah
2007-12-24T01:29:25  <rafael> moinmo.in is down!
2007-12-24T01:29:47  <ernestas_> it is, indeed
2007-12-24T01:29:59  <ernestas_> It took Christmas holidays ;]
2007-12-24T01:30:19  <lanius> gn8
2007-12-24T01:30:26  <ernestas_> gn lanius
2007-12-24T01:41:31  <ernestas_> ThomasWaldmann, are you still here?
2007-12-24T01:42:28  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but busy
2007-12-24T01:43:13  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: just retry, i have to restart the server process sometimes
2007-12-24T01:43:15  <ernestas_> ok... I wanted to ask if I have to set ar as default lang to reproduce that error
2007-12-24T01:45:23  <ernestas_> and when should that error show up...
2007-12-24T01:45:32  <ernestas_> well, and where
2007-12-24T01:47:34  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas_: no
2007-12-24T01:48:00  <ThomasWaldmann> and it should show as soon as you access the wiki with a non-english language
2007-12-24T01:48:16  <ernestas_> ok, I've just installed LT, will try in a moment
2007-12-24T01:50:42  <ernestas_> [Mon Dec 24 02:50:35 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] 025035 DEBUG    loadLangua
2007-12-24T01:50:42  <ernestas_> ge: langfilename /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/lt.MoinMoin.po n
2007-12-24T01:50:42  <ernestas_> eeds update
2007-12-24T01:50:42  <ernestas_> [Mon Dec 24 02:50:35 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] 025035 DEBUG    loadLangua
2007-12-24T01:50:42  <ernestas_> ge: dumping lang lt
2007-12-24T01:51:42  <ernestas_> but the wiki is localised
2007-12-24T01:52:07  <ernestas_> and I can use translated Lithuanian links
2007-12-24T01:54:24  <ernestas_> I can edit pages, I can see recent changes (localised...)
2007-12-24T01:56:47  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas_: try py 2.3
2007-12-24T01:57:09  <ernestas_> ok
2007-12-24T02:00:03  <ernestas_> ThomasWaldmann, should I just reinstall the wiki with python 2.3 and it will use it by default? Or is there some config option?
2007-12-24T02:00:51  <ThomasWaldmann> reinstall with 2.3
2007-12-24T02:00:59  <ernestas_> ok
2007-12-24T02:01:47  <cb22> night all
2007-12-24T02:01:53  <ernestas_> night cb22
2007-12-24T02:02:07  <ernestas_> Merry Christmas :)
2007-12-24T02:09:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas_: you run moin under which uid?
2007-12-24T02:10:03  <ernestas_> apache
2007-12-24T02:10:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2007-12-24T02:25:20  <ernestas_> well...
2007-12-24T02:25:22  <ernestas_> [Mon Dec 24 03:25:34 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] 032534 DEBUG    loadLanguage: pickle lt load success, referer: http://localhost/mywiki/FrontPage?action=login
2007-12-24T02:25:37  <ernestas_> and the links are localized
2007-12-24T02:25:53  <ernestas_> so I think it works well with python2.3, too
2007-12-24T02:28:12  <ernestas_> I will try with 2.5 now
2007-12-24T02:37:20  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas_: read the paragraph under "What is your umask when executing the setup.py?" in the original bug report
2007-12-24T02:38:27  <ernestas_> "If I set umask 037 and do clone the repository"
2007-12-24T02:38:35  <ernestas_> clone the repository? eh?
2007-12-24T02:38:50  <ernestas_> ThomasWaldmann, what repository should I clone and how?
2007-12-24T02:39:10  <ThomasWaldmann> you don't need to
2007-12-24T02:39:33  <ernestas_> what do I need to do then?
2007-12-24T02:39:42  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess it is enough if you chmod o-rwx *.po in MoinMoin/i18n/
2007-12-24T02:40:00  <ernestas_> ok
2007-12-24T02:40:04  <ThomasWaldmann> or rather chmod -R o-rwx MoinMoin/
2007-12-24T02:40:10  <ThomasWaldmann> and then install it
2007-12-24T02:40:31  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess then the problem will be visible
2007-12-24T02:40:31  <ernestas_> chmod o-rwx moin-1.6rc2/
2007-12-24T02:40:33  <ernestas_> right?
2007-12-24T02:40:39  <ernestas_> in my case...
2007-12-24T02:41:04  <ernestas_> if you mean the dir where the setup.py file is located
2007-12-24T02:41:31  <ernestas_> ok, ThomasWaldmann, I understood that and will try to do
2007-12-24T02:42:07  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2007-12-24T03:40:34  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, yes, it has worked. I have reproduced this bug even with python 2.5 when I have run the "chmod o-rwx moin-1.6rc2/" command. I'm getting this error: "[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/sv.MoinMoin.po'"
2007-12-24T03:43:42  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, I will try with another distribution+2.3,2.4,2.5 python versions later today
2007-12-24T03:44:00  <ernestas> but I think the results will be very similar
2007-12-24T03:45:24  <ernestas> good night and Merry Christmas :)
2007-12-24T07:06:45  <dreimark> moin
2007-12-24T07:07:02  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/InterWikiMap?action=raw
2007-12-24T07:07:11  <dreimark> # if you do not want to modify the file directly.
2007-12-24T07:07:21  <dreimark> shouldn't that not be two ##
2007-12-24T07:08:15  <dreimark> before the empty line
2007-12-24T07:23:22  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6SyncBrokenByFormattedKeyword
2007-12-24T07:29:40  <dreimark> self.log_status(self.INFO, _("Synchronisation started -", formatted=False), raw_suffix=" <<DateTime(%s)>>" % self.page._get_local_timestamp())
2007-12-24T07:32:03  <dreimark> line 276, in sync
2007-12-24T07:32:03  <dreimark> self.log_status(self.INFO, _("Got a list of %s local and %s remote pages. This results in %s different pages over-all.", formatted=False),
2007-12-24T07:32:06  <dreimark> TypeError: <lambda>() got an unexpected keyword argument 'formatted'
2007-12-24T07:35:16  <dreimark> many places
2007-12-24T07:39:52  <dreimark> bbl ~3h
2007-12-24T10:35:05  <xorAxAx> dreimark: :-(
2007-12-24T10:39:07  <dreimark> moin xorAxAx
2007-12-24T10:40:04  <braunsv> hi everybody *yawn
2007-12-24T10:56:04  <cb22> morning all
2007-12-24T10:56:55  <cb22> random question: if you have a server in a different time zone (lets say the server is -6 GMT and you are GMT) what time do you set on your server?
2007-12-24T11:04:05  <braunsv> that
2007-12-24T11:04:54  <braunsv> that's something I never thougt about .. I would set the time zone I have
2007-12-24T11:09:03  <dreimark> xorAxAx: can we replace lambda with self.request.getText ?
2007-12-24T11:09:19  <xorAxAx> dreimark: ?
2007-12-24T11:09:49  <dreimark> xorAxAx: see patch at http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6SyncBrokenByFormattedKeyword
2007-12-24T11:10:33  <xorAxAx> dreimark: no
2007-12-24T11:10:47  <xorAxAx> dreimark: add a keyword to the lambda
2007-12-24T11:11:31  <xorAxAx> a kwarg i mean
2007-12-24T11:16:34  <xorAxAx> dreimark: reemoving the kwargs is even more sensible
2007-12-24T11:27:28  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ok:  _ = lambda x, **kw: x # we will translate it later
2007-12-24T11:27:49  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: InterWikiMap fixed (on master)
2007-12-24T11:27:53  <dreimark> removing of kwargs and reformatting these strings should we do later
2007-12-24T11:28:37  <dreimark> xorAxAx: we need to use for translations named substitutions
2007-12-24T11:30:31  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: :) (sorry should have done it myself, it was to early this morning)
2007-12-24T11:30:57  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm?
2007-12-24T11:31:24  <xorAxAx> dreimark: no, that doesnt make sense either
2007-12-24T11:31:35  <xorAxAx> dreimark: removing is more sane (after thinking about it)
2007-12-24T11:32:13  <dreimark> "Skipped page %s because ..." "Skipped page %(pagename)s because ..."
2007-12-24T11:32:23  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm?
2007-12-24T11:32:29  <xorAxAx> dreimark: why is that necessary?
2007-12-24T11:33:06  <dreimark> I should beeter show a example with more than one "Got a list of %s local and %s remote pages
2007-12-24T11:33:23  <dreimark> they could be different arranged
2007-12-24T11:34:33  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: we have quite some of those. dont fix for 1.6
2007-12-24T11:36:06  <dreimark> Don't want to fix now just used to explain xorAxAx the difference
2007-12-24T11:37:03  <dreimark> one should may be grep for other _ = lambda ...
2007-12-24T11:37:03  <xorAxAx> dreimark: why could it be differently arranged?
2007-12-24T11:37:16  <xorAxAx> translator can always reorder that sentence :)
2007-12-24T11:37:34  <xorAxAx> but yes, thats better (esp. if there is not an and in there)
2007-12-24T11:38:08  <xorAxAx> that string even has 3 %s ... evil me
2007-12-24T11:41:44  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: /me likes utc
2007-12-24T11:42:41  <ThomasWaldmann> but your own or your server location's localtime would also make sense for some occassions
2007-12-24T11:49:17  <dreimark> xorAxAx: they then know what we are talking about
2007-12-24T11:51:28  <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2475:27b3877c1f4c 1.6/MoinMoin/action/SyncPages.py: action.SyncPages: bug fix for MoinMoinBugs/1.6SyncBrokenByFormattedKeyword
2007-12-24T11:57:31  <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-24T12:24:46  <lanius>         import logging
2007-12-24T12:24:46  <lanius>         logging.info(self._get_rev_path(name, revno, 'data'))
2007-12-24T12:24:54  <lanius> ups
2007-12-24T12:24:54  <lanius> moin
2007-12-24T12:25:14  <ThomasWaldmann> moin :)
2007-12-24T12:25:28  <lanius> ThomasWaldmann: i brought your 1.7 backend into shape
2007-12-24T12:25:32  <ThomasWaldmann> that reminds me I have to reduce logging for 1.6 :)
2007-12-24T12:25:49  <xorAxAx> gah, dont use logging.* directly
2007-12-24T12:29:21  <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: ah, nice :)
2007-12-24T12:29:36  <ThomasWaldmann> how about acls?
2007-12-24T12:29:42  <lanius> not yet
2007-12-24T13:05:09  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2476:73d016c77aa9 1.6/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py: wiki parser: fix interwiki detection (matched stuff like '''Foo:''' before)
2007-12-24T13:05:11  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2477:33be8b1a84a2 1.6/MoinMoin/action/SyncPages.py: merged main
2007-12-24T13:16:14  <rafael> hm, i have modified my parsers to make it more clear, but in vcards i only get the address printed in the table. ..don't know why
2007-12-24T13:16:34  <rafael> could someone look at it? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17351/ - http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17352/
2007-12-24T13:25:23  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: type is reserved
2007-12-24T13:25:41  <dreimark> and please escape strings
2007-12-24T13:27:36  <ThomasWaldmann> and please use less 1char var names
2007-12-24T13:29:14  <ThomasWaldmann> not_showed:
2007-12-24T13:29:32  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe "hidden" rather?
2007-12-24T13:31:58  <ThomasWaldmann>         if key in not_showed:
2007-12-24T13:31:58  <ThomasWaldmann>             # hide it
2007-12-24T13:31:58  <ThomasWaldmann>             pass
2007-12-24T13:31:59  <ThomasWaldmann>         else:
2007-12-24T13:32:28  <ThomasWaldmann> that if branch is rather superfluous :)
2007-12-24T13:33:09  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: how about: if key not in hidden: ....
2007-12-24T13:33:42  <dreimark> please no new var names self.req = request -> self.request = request
2007-12-24T13:36:41  <ThomasWaldmann> and in the member functions please: request = self.request (and then use request.write for the rest, or even collect the stuff and use a single request.write at the end)
2007-12-24T13:48:43  * dreimark comments 43
2007-12-24T14:09:25  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: how to collect this stuff?
2007-12-24T14:09:33  <rafael> sorry, was decorating the christmas tree..
2007-12-24T14:15:11  <rafael> dreimark: what do you mean with escape strings?
2007-12-24T14:23:58  <dreimark> rafael: please use wikiutil.escape < > signs should be escaped
2007-12-24T14:24:32  <rafael> on every self.request.write(value)?
2007-12-24T14:26:27  <dreimark> on every user inputted value yes, may be you can do it before the output
2007-12-24T14:26:44  <dreimark> have to leave bbl
2007-12-24T14:28:45  <rafael> if i would know how to collect the stuff like ThomasWaldmann said, i could do this, yes
2007-12-24T15:39:59  <cb22> thoughts on http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17405/ please
2007-12-24T15:40:11  <cb22> rafael: isnt it a bit late for decorating =)
2007-12-24T15:41:35  <rafael> cb22: it is working yes, but i decorate it for better use with unittests
2007-12-24T15:41:50  <rafael> and i think the team mark it only as finished if i write them
2007-12-24T16:02:37  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: moin has lots of sample code for that :) result = [] .... result.append(...) ... output ''.join(result)
2007-12-24T16:03:24  <rafael> ah yes, darn simple. thanks
2007-12-24T16:12:56  * cb22 updates #49
2007-12-24T16:20:34  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: reads ok. now search moinmo.in for #deprecated.
2007-12-24T16:23:33  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: btw, occasionaly i get The following error occurred: [code=RESOURCE_RECLAIMED] Internal error. Try again. when accessing moinmo.in
2007-12-24T16:24:47  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: the only reference to it that i can find that is recent is the bug page, MoinMoinBugs/DeprecatedDoubleContent
2007-12-24T16:27:04  <ThomasWaldmann> you can also fix the non-recent confusion :)
2007-12-24T16:27:23  <cb22> heh sure
2007-12-24T16:29:34  <ThomasWaldmann> there are 15 pages found when searching for #deprecated, please review them
2007-12-24T16:29:55  <ThomasWaldmann> and maybe consolidate them to one
2007-12-24T16:32:52  <ThomasWaldmann> (at least there shall be no open bug reports about #deprecated that are simply based on misunderstanding it)
2007-12-24T16:33:55  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: what would the appropriate status for "not a bug" be?
2007-12-24T16:43:58  <ThomasWaldmann> MoinMoinBugFixed category and a short explanation in status:
2007-12-24T16:44:25  <ThomasWaldmann> (but as I said, we don't need multiple bugs about a misunderstanding)
2007-12-24T16:47:01  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: well, the 'bug' was deprecated use causing the content to render twice
2007-12-24T16:48:01  <cb22> AFAIK the only pages covering it are MoinMoinKnownProblems and DeprecatedDoubleContent. everything else is related to some other aspect
2007-12-24T16:48:33  <cb22> and MoinMoinKnownProblems is some weird page
2007-12-24T16:58:43  <cb22> ok, updated #49 again
2007-12-24T16:59:39  * ThomasWaldmann will update xmas parcel status now :))
2007-12-24T17:03:28  <cb22> hehe the magic 1.6 is arriving?
2007-12-24T17:08:03  <ThomasWaldmann> no :)
2007-12-24T17:19:00  <cb22> only 6 more hors till christmas :)
2007-12-24T19:18:40  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2007-12-24T20:22:26  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, could you please review http://moinmo.in/ErnestasLiubarskij/MissingRightsI18n
2007-12-24T20:41:29  <ernestas> I'll post a comment on the issue and then if something is wrong or missing, just write me back
2007-12-24T20:46:42  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: well, the interesting thing is that the pyc mode makes the rw-rw---- stuff work, although there is no access to the py code by the server process
2007-12-24T20:47:18  <ernestas> pyc is the compiled py if I remember correctly, right?
2007-12-24T20:49:35  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2007-12-24T20:49:39  <ernestas> the py file is not very needed if the pyc one is present, as I understand
2007-12-24T20:50:15  <ernestas> like the sources are not needed to run the binary
2007-12-24T20:50:40  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
2007-12-24T20:54:12  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: nice christmas icon
2007-12-24T20:55:07  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: ok, i think you can summarize your results and close the bug. suggest a workaround there.
2007-12-24T20:55:27  <ernestas> ok
2007-12-24T21:00:42  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: btw do you know of any other pages mentioning the deprecated *2 bug?
2007-12-24T21:01:15  <cb22> all i could find was http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/DeprecatedDoubleContent which i added a 'workaround' and moved it to the category CategoryMoinMoinNoBug
2007-12-24T21:04:02  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: use the search function
2007-12-24T21:06:13  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, should I change CategoryMoinMoinBug to MoinMoinBugFixed? Or what should I do to close the bug?
2007-12-24T21:06:18  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: i did, and thats all i could find relating to 2* content
2007-12-24T21:06:50  <dreimark> cb22: MoinMoinBugs/UnconfuseDeprecatedPragma
2007-12-24T21:07:08  <dreimark> MoinMoinBugs/AddingDeprecatedConfusesPageRevision
2007-12-24T21:08:00  <dreimark> MoinMoinBugs/DeprecatedIsNotRespected
2007-12-24T21:08:19  <dreimark> ther may be more
2007-12-24T21:08:21  <cb22> dreimark: yes, but those dont say 'if you use depricated the page shows up twice'
2007-12-24T21:08:33  <dreimark> ah ok
2007-12-24T21:08:46  <cb22> thats what i was wwondering about :)
2007-12-24T21:10:28  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, and could you please add me to that mysterious no_textchas_group? I always forget to answer them ;)
2007-12-24T21:10:59  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: well, i think it is just a unfortunate umask setting, not a moin bug. thus you can use ...NoBug category.
2007-12-24T21:11:15  <ernestas> ok
2007-12-24T21:11:39  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, just append that or replace CategoryMoinMoinBug with it?
2007-12-24T21:12:26  <ThomasWaldmann> s/Bug/NoBug/
2007-12-24T21:12:30  <ernestas> ok
2007-12-24T21:12:44  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2478:0fa5d5c15b81 1.6/MoinMoin/i18n/ (9 files): updated i18n
2007-12-24T21:12:45  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2479:f3607c2d0de1 1.6/ (docs/INSTALL.html wiki/data/intermap.txt): updated install-docs and interwiki
2007-12-24T21:12:47  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2480:ae5e6d86f9e5 1.6/wiki/underlay.tar.bz2: updated underlay
2007-12-24T21:12:48  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2481:3a2fa2b9e1c2 1.6/ (7 files in 2 dirs): reduce default log level to INFO
2007-12-24T21:14:44  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, preparing to the 1.6 release? ;)
2007-12-24T21:23:46  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do we have added already the description for the Desktop wiki besides CHANGES
2007-12-24T21:25:03  <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2482:640f21787334 1.6/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
2007-12-24T21:25:17  <ernestas> ok, good luck with the release. bye
2007-12-24T21:25:28  <dreimark> thanks ernestas
2007-12-24T21:25:33  <ThomasWaldmann> cu ernestas
2007-12-24T21:27:00  <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES < i am thinking about removing detail level of the changes history and also the splitting into rc1/rc2/beta... stuff
2007-12-24T21:27:24  <ThomasWaldmann> any thoughts about that?
2007-12-24T21:29:49  <ThomasWaldmann> so that it is just 1.5.8 and then all major changes of 1.6.0
2007-12-24T21:29:59  <dreimark> hmm, beta yes but in the past we have listed rc1 and rc2 too
2007-12-24T21:30:39  <TheSheep> I think it would be less confusing to merge them
2007-12-24T21:31:08  <TheSheep> especially if they have any changes that cancel each other
2007-12-24T21:31:17  <ThomasWaldmann> the testers of beta/rc could also look in the repo about what's new
2007-12-24T21:31:38  <dreimark> yeah you are both right
2007-12-24T21:32:42  <ThomasWaldmann> and i guess it only works if I collapse all rc/beta (or i would have to list stuff somewhere where it is not really true)
2007-12-24T21:33:32  <dreimark> hmm, yes
2007-12-24T21:34:28  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i work on CHANGES now. if someone has time, test the log level changes :)
2007-12-24T21:34:46  <ThomasWaldmann> (and the i18n)
2007-12-24T21:35:20  * dreimark doing (standalone) and some languages
2007-12-24T21:47:38  <vpv> btw, will you update underlay for future minor releases? I had basically no time to improve the Finnish underlay pages because of all the christmas stuff, but I'd like to do it during the 1.6 lifespan...
2007-12-24T22:02:33  <dreimark> I wonder a bit why I do see more Systempages local as on master.moinmo.in
2007-12-24T22:09:25  <dreimark> master shows only pages of M | S
2007-12-24T22:10:18  <dreimark> I do see some more e.g.  NavigasiSitus
2007-12-24T22:37:57  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: missing acls see http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer/BugCheck?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Missing_ACLs.html
2007-12-24T22:42:11  <dreimark> what is the meaning of e.g. (XXX in Hindi)
2007-12-24T22:48:20  <ThomasWaldmann> that is needs fixing
2007-12-24T22:56:52  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: open a bug report for that acl problem. it is likely caused by wrong master-page entries
2007-12-24T22:57:09  <ThomasWaldmann> link it from MoinDev/Translation
2007-12-24T22:57:19  <dreimark> will do
2007-12-24T23:17:13  <dreimark> good night
2007-12-24T23:40:29  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark