MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-08

2008-01-08T00:04:21  <dreimark> YoniWiz: you need a programming language
2008-01-08T00:04:48  <dreimark> if you tell you don't need something like php ...
2008-01-08T00:05:03  <dreimark> and the one needs python instead
2008-01-08T00:05:49  <dreimark> then he will be confused
2008-01-08T00:06:05  <dreimark> for one who doesn't know both it is confusing
2008-01-08T00:06:46  <dreimark> ACL rights are: read, write, delete, revert, admin
2008-01-08T00:08:58  <YoniWiz> so i should mention those by name?
2008-01-08T00:09:12  <YoniWiz> and I got the PHP thing from the moinmoin advantages page
2008-01-08T00:09:32  <YoniWiz> so maybe that should be changed to reflecct that if moinmoin shouldnt have PHP as something it doesnt need?
2008-01-08T00:12:04  <dreimark> link
2008-01-08T00:13:17  <dreimark> YoniWiz: for the acl I was not sure if you have seen that the rights are different named, you can let it as it is now. I was wondering about using view for read.
2008-01-08T00:14:28  <YoniWiz> right now it says view but i can make it say read if you prefer
2008-01-08T00:14:31  <YoniWiz> and the link is
2008-01-08T00:15:16  <YoniWiz> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinFeatures
2008-01-08T00:15:58  <YoniWiz>  no need for external stuff like: diff, rcs, cvs or other, PHP, SQL or other database.
2008-01-08T00:19:15  <YoniWiz> but no worries I took out the PHP reference in the poster anyway
2008-01-08T00:19:39  <dreimark> the differnce in that list that is at the beginning explainbed to need python
2008-01-08T00:20:00  <dreimark> and I think we should make clear on the Features page that we use python
2008-01-08T00:28:31  <YoniWiz> o
2008-01-08T00:28:32  <YoniWiz> k
2008-01-08T00:40:42  * dreimark comments on 76
2008-01-08T00:52:30  <dreimark> xorAxAx: seems one student has more than 15 tasks
2008-01-08T01:01:24  <cb23> dreimark, i was thinking, if i weren't the ethical person i am, and i had a brother / sister / father / mother that was really good in python/php/language i would be like 'hey dad, if you do all this code for me, i'll bring you to google-hq'
2008-01-08T01:23:49  <cb23> hmm, it appears as if a request from the cmd line gives me page links with ./ in them, whereas one from the web gives me just /
2008-01-08T01:24:16  <cb23> (i am not setting any options that would make this difference)
2008-01-08T01:27:50  <cb23> hmm, weird. whenever i ask a question here i always seem to figure out the answer myself, like 2 minutes after asking
2008-01-08T02:28:19  <YoniWiz> dreimark: are you serious!??!?!!? more than 15?!?!?!?
2008-01-08T02:28:23  <YoniWiz> wowww
2008-01-08T03:26:14  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: do you have an estimation of when this task will close? (If not it's fine I just figured I would ask)
2008-01-08T08:23:00  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: no :)
2008-01-08T08:23:12  <xorAxAx> dreimark: one of our students?
2008-01-08T08:41:45  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-08T10:28:08  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-08T10:28:11  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://opentouch.info/tmp/ghop/ghop-stats.html
2008-01-08T10:28:40  <xorAxAx> dreimark: thats perfectly fine and allowed :)
2008-01-08T10:28:46  <dreimark> no, I h've no idea where he did these tasks
2008-01-08T10:48:50  <dreimark> yeah and your rights it is fine ...
2008-01-08T12:11:18  <grzybacz> moin
2008-01-08T12:51:37  <lanius> hi
2008-01-08T13:39:17  * cb23 updates #98
2008-01-08T14:51:59  <ThomasWaldmann> hi lanius
2008-01-08T14:53:49  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: did you time that to be exaxtly 2 hours later?
2008-01-08T14:54:15  <dreimark> 2h1min
2008-01-08T14:54:39  <cb22> dreimark: my irssi tells me 2 hours on the dot
2008-01-08T14:54:50  <cb22> (within 59 seconds)
2008-01-08T14:56:45  <dreimark> mine not, 11:56 < lanius, 13:57 < Thoma
2008-01-08T14:57:38  <xorAxAx> 60 minutes and 22 seconds
2008-01-08T14:59:58  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: no :)
2008-01-08T15:00:30  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: our train from 24c3 berlin left at 1337 :))
2008-01-08T15:41:51  <kikka> Hello.
2008-01-08T17:48:15  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: before you asked me, you already had a comment in your task
2008-01-08T18:02:56  <cb22> xorAxAx: can i has comments? :)
2008-01-08T18:03:13  * xorAxAx gives cb22 some cat food :)
2008-01-08T18:03:26  <xorAxAx> and yes, i am currently reviewing your patch
2008-01-08T18:04:15  <cb22> hehe thanks (for both) btw, if you try to use it, you will need my mini patch to AttachFile
2008-01-08T18:04:44  <xorAxAx> why do you need a custom formatter?
2008-01-08T18:05:12  <xorAxAx> ah, to dump all linked pages?
2008-01-08T18:05:18  <cb22> yep
2008-01-08T18:05:20  <cb22> nope
2008-01-08T18:05:30  <cb22> although thats a good idea, i should implement it
2008-01-08T18:05:33  <xorAxAx> hmm, explain :-)
2008-01-08T18:05:44  <cb22> but i need a custom formatter to call a custom page
2008-01-08T18:05:51  <cb22> to call a custom _link_tag
2008-01-08T18:06:57  <cb22> (that gives me my modified links, like with a ./ and a .html)
2008-01-08T18:07:23  <xorAxAx> hmm, i am not convinced
2008-01-08T18:07:32  <xorAxAx> the method of it consists of copy/pasted code
2008-01-08T18:07:45  <xorAxAx> same for the other class
2008-01-08T18:08:22  <xorAxAx> why do you need your own link tag again?
2008-01-08T18:08:38  <cb22> xorAxAx: so i can have relative links with a suffix attached
2008-01-08T18:08:51  <xorAxAx> ah, just for ".html"
2008-01-08T18:08:52  <xorAxAx> ...=
2008-01-08T18:09:07  <cb22> ...=?
2008-01-08T18:09:14  <xorAxAx> :-)
2008-01-08T18:09:21  <xorAxAx> that was meant to mean "...?"
2008-01-08T18:09:41  <cb22> ah, yes and to kill the leading /
2008-01-08T18:10:28  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-08T18:10:46  <xorAxAx> how does the dump script solve it?
2008-01-08T18:11:07  <cb22> its sets a cfg variable
2008-01-08T18:12:04  <xorAxAx> that does what? :)
2008-01-08T18:12:25  <cb22> changes the prefix... but i dont want to be setting and unsetting things, or do i?
2008-01-08T18:13:06  <cb22> (like im not sure if it could happen, but say the script dies between setting it and unsetting it, the whole wiki will be fscked until a server restart)
2008-01-08T18:13:17  <xorAxAx> you could if the cfg was threadsafe
2008-01-08T18:13:18  <xorAxAx> but it isnt
2008-01-08T18:13:27  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-08T18:14:01  <xorAxAx> but you could construct a config class that proxies to the real config but overwrites certain attributes
2008-01-08T18:14:23  <xorAxAx> thats 3 lines of python code (by using __getattribute__ :-))
2008-01-08T18:14:32  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-08T18:15:14  <xorAxAx> and then you could replace request.cfg and reset it in a finally branch
2008-01-08T18:15:29  <xorAxAx> certainly a hack
2008-01-08T18:15:37  <xorAxAx> but thats cleaner than duplicating a lot of code
2008-01-08T18:16:54  <cb22> hmm...
2008-01-08T18:17:42  <cb22> i think i understand what you mean
2008-01-08T18:18:39  <xorAxAx> you could write such a generic class, and put it into util
2008-01-08T18:19:22  <xorAxAx> the __init__ signature would be def __init__(self, proxied_obj, shadowing_attrs_dict) or something like that
2008-01-08T18:19:43  <xorAxAx> where the latter is something like {"request_path": "..."}
2008-01-08T18:20:09  <cb22> i take there isnt such a thing as request.
2008-01-08T18:20:16  <cb22> url_prefix_static
2008-01-08T18:20:19  <cb22> (no cfg)
2008-01-08T18:21:22  <xorAxAx> hmm, where is no request?
2008-01-08T18:21:43  <cb22> huh?
2008-01-08T18:22:51  <xorAxAx> 18:20:09 < cb22> i take there isnt such a thing as request.
2008-01-08T18:22:59  <xorAxAx> or what do you mean? :)
2008-01-08T18:23:17  <cb22> split sentance :) request.urll_prefix_static
2008-01-08T18:23:29  <xorAxAx> ah
2008-01-08T18:23:41  <cb22> the dump script does its magic using request.cfg.url_prefix_static
2008-01-08T18:23:44  <xorAxAx> ah
2008-01-08T18:24:17  <xorAxAx> no, there is no request.url_prefix_static
2008-01-08T18:24:24  <xorAxAx> thats why you need to do it like i described above
2008-01-08T18:25:43  <cb22> but now that can sort out the prefix issue
2008-01-08T18:26:10  <xorAxAx> hmm?
2008-01-08T18:26:11  <cb22> i still have the suffix issue, the script does it by overriding wikiutil.quoteWikinameURL
2008-01-08T18:26:19  <cb22> (i need to add .html to all pages)
2008-01-08T18:27:00  <xorAxAx> hmm, does quoteWikinameURL get a request param?
2008-01-08T18:27:16  <cb22> not AFAIK, i'll check
2008-01-08T18:28:01  <cb22> nope
2008-01-08T18:28:24  <xorAxAx> and its only called 68 times
2008-01-08T18:30:51  <cb22> brb, food bekons
2008-01-08T18:31:21  <cb22> rewrite it to take a request and do a AttachFile on it?
2008-01-08T18:32:19  <xorAxAx> changing this doesnt sound sane
2008-01-08T18:32:32  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-08T19:12:50  <cb22> xorAxAx: what about editing link_tag in Pag.epy like i did to getAtahcUrl in AttachFile?
2008-01-08T19:12:56  <cb22> link_tag takes request
2008-01-08T19:13:51  <cb22> woops, not in page.py, in wikiutil
2008-01-08T19:15:14  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-08T19:15:29  <xorAxAx> there are also other callers calling that quoting function
2008-01-08T19:16:44  <cb22> yes, but i mean something like: link += getattr(request, "custom_suffix", '')
2008-01-08T19:18:15  <xorAxAx> yes, but my point is that you might still have links without the suffix in the output
2008-01-08T19:18:57  <xorAxAx> e.g. monthcalendar would break
2008-01-08T19:19:06  <xorAxAx> (which is abusing a lot of moin functions anyway :))
2008-01-08T19:20:54  <cb22> hmm? doesnt everything have to go through link_tag?
2008-01-08T19:21:06  <xorAxAx> muhaha, muhahahaha
2008-01-08T19:21:08  <xorAxAx> :-)
2008-01-08T19:21:19  <xorAxAx> in that case there wouldnt be 70 callers
2008-01-08T19:21:51  <xorAxAx> but i think its sane to do it like you suggested
2008-01-08T19:21:54  <xorAxAx> and fix the evil callers
2008-01-08T19:21:57  <xorAxAx> case by case
2008-01-08T19:22:11  <xorAxAx> i.e. wouldnt be your task
2008-01-08T19:23:13  * cb22 runs and hides in the corner
2008-01-08T19:24:27  <cb22> xorAxAx: i think your laugh scared my adsl into resetting itself :/ seriously
2008-01-08T19:25:30  <xorAxAx> the manic laughter of death
2008-01-08T19:25:53  <xorAxAx> cb22: i usually have the problem here that my feet touch the phone line socket
2008-01-08T19:26:01  <xorAxAx> and then the modem starts syncing again :)
2008-01-08T19:26:53  <cb22> hehe :) nope, here its just a crappy serivce provider. - i have two, one has been connected for 17 days (the uptime of my gateway) the other just reset and does so every 24 hours
2008-01-08T19:27:48  <xorAxAx> there is a trick - just advise your router to disconnect at, lets say, 4 am in the morning
2008-01-08T19:28:58  <cb22> xorAxAx: you havent been paying attention to timestamps on irc have you - im normally up at 4 :p
2008-01-08T19:30:26  <xorAxAx> cb22: yes, i was wondering about that when writing the sentence
2008-01-08T19:30:31  <xorAxAx> cb22: then try at 7 :)
2008-01-08T19:30:53  <cb22> good call - i'll be fast asleep then!
2008-01-08T19:34:02  <cb22> xorAxAx: freaky - my 2 line patch actually works
2008-01-08T19:34:17  <cb22> (one line patch with a comment explaining)
2008-01-08T19:35:04  <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-01-08T19:36:09  * cb22 goes and sits in the corner with a big red dunce cap on
2008-01-08T20:03:27  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-01-08T20:49:29  <dreimark> xorAxAx: the one of issue 65 has asked on the 30th for an extension on #moin
2008-01-08T20:49:39  <dreimark> because he is away until 10th.
2008-01-08T20:49:49  <xorAxAx> yes, saw your comment
2008-01-08T21:40:08  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://draw2d.org/draw2d/
2008-01-08T21:42:28  <dreimark> e.g. http://draw2d.org/draw2d/files/demo/vectordraw/index.html
2008-01-08T21:44:07  <xorAxAx> dreimark: neat
2008-01-08T21:44:30  <xorAxAx> but the persistence part would have to be written by the student
2008-01-08T21:44:55  <dreimark> the lib is lgpl
2008-01-08T21:45:53  <xorAxAx> ok, nice. can you add the link to the easytodo task and make it ready for pushing?
2008-01-08T21:46:27  <dreimark> yep
2008-01-08T21:53:38  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i modified MoinCommand a bit because the original task didnt make much sense IMHO
2008-01-08T21:54:34  <xorAxAx> do you think that it still meets your idea?
2008-01-08T21:54:48  <cb22> xorAxAx: what for, if there is moin.py?
2008-01-08T21:55:14  <xorAxAx> cb22: moin.py uses the MMDE wikiconfig that thomas wrote
2008-01-08T21:55:40  <xorAxAx> cb22: and the server command would work with any config and require certain bits on environment
2008-01-08T21:55:58  <cb22> ah right, like a more proper version
2008-01-08T21:56:00  <xorAxAx> so, moin.py is moin server with magic and no requirements
2008-01-08T21:56:04  <dreimark> xorAxAx: I thought we were able to reduce the number of moin commands by this task
2008-01-08T21:56:23  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm, well, thats not possible
2008-01-08T21:56:28  <xorAxAx> only renaming makes sense here
2008-01-08T21:57:53  <xorAxAx> do you think that the rewritten task still makes sense?
2008-01-08T21:58:51  <dreimark> no, this makes things more complicated may be
2008-01-08T21:59:06  <dreimark> I think we should let servers in the server dir then
2008-01-08T21:59:08  <cb22> xorAxAx: maybe add what you just told me
2008-01-08T21:59:12  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: did you like it better when the logo took up more space?
2008-01-08T21:59:36  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: and I should both make the font bigger and make it take less space than it does currently by shortening etc
2008-01-08T21:59:50  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: you need more margins
2008-01-08T22:00:04  <YoniWiz> more space around the edges?
2008-01-08T22:00:05  <xorAxAx> the poster looks utterly conguested
2008-01-08T22:00:08  <YoniWiz> of the poster
2008-01-08T22:00:09  <xorAxAx> yes,
2008-01-08T22:00:18  <xorAxAx> and below the screenhots and above the URL
2008-01-08T22:00:34  <xorAxAx> and i said that shortening is just necessary because we "lose" space because of this
2008-01-08T22:00:50  <xorAxAx> and no, i didnt like the old version better, you are progressing :)
2008-01-08T22:00:58  <YoniWiz> okay
2008-01-08T22:01:12  <YoniWiz> :-)
2008-01-08T22:03:07  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: do you mind if i eliminate the box titled "why choose moinmoin?"
2008-01-08T22:03:11  <YoniWiz> to save space
2008-01-08T22:03:28  <xorAxAx> dreimark: what is the advantage of having the server script for the standalone server copyable?
2008-01-08T22:04:02  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: you mean the heading? hmm
2008-01-08T22:04:07  <YoniWiz> yes
2008-01-08T22:04:08  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: its a kind of eye catcher
2008-01-08T22:04:14  <xorAxAx> that motivates you to read the bullet list
2008-01-08T22:04:17  <YoniWiz> okay i will keep it
2008-01-08T22:05:38  <dreimark> xorAxAx: it is one unit the wiki dir and two files
2008-01-08T22:05:57  <dreimark> and in moin.py you do setup the ports
2008-01-08T22:06:12  <xorAxAx> dreimark: well, you could also just handle it on the command line
2008-01-08T22:06:23  <xorAxAx> moin serve -p 8000 --threaded ...
2008-01-08T22:06:44  <xorAxAx> easier and less pain for people who suffer from API changing developers
2008-01-08T22:07:11  <dreimark> :)
2008-01-08T22:07:37  <xorAxAx> but it has a disadvantage
2008-01-08T22:07:50  <xorAxAx> that you have to get that moin script onto your path
2008-01-08T22:07:54  <xorAxAx> so maybe having both is best?
2008-01-08T22:09:23  <dreimark> this is true.
2008-01-08T22:11:10  <dreimark> you can call MoinMoin/script/moin.py migration data too
2008-01-08T22:12:11  <dreimark> but it is a lot to enter
2008-01-08T22:12:43  <xorAxAx> now http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/DrawingReplacement is a no-op task
2008-01-08T22:13:01  <xorAxAx> should we make a code task from it thats about integrating such a library?
2008-01-08T22:13:23  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: the only disadvantage to this.. is that the advantages list now looks much shorter..
2008-01-08T22:13:51  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: does it just look shorter or did you remove a lot?
2008-01-08T22:14:02  <xorAxAx> or did you merge stuff?
2008-01-08T22:14:25  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: no, i removed very little but merged a lot so now there are two longer blurbs but its many less bullet points
2008-01-08T22:14:31  <dreimark> xorAxAx: good idea, can you please. I will be back from home in some minutes.
2008-01-08T22:14:45  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: like one third of the bullet points are now gone
2008-01-08T22:14:50  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: just two long paragraphs? how about columns ...
2008-01-08T22:14:53  <YoniWiz> but i havent made the font bigget yet so who knows
2008-01-08T22:15:02  <xorAxAx> dreimark: ok
2008-01-08T22:15:04  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: well no its a bunch of bullets then two paragraphs
2008-01-08T22:15:10  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: like before there was the final one
2008-01-08T22:15:20  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: now there is that plus one about acess control and revisions etc etc
2008-01-08T22:18:16  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: hmm, i will have a look at it
2008-01-08T22:18:19  <YoniWiz> kk
2008-01-08T22:22:48  <xorAxAx> what is the history of the MoveAttachmentNotWorkingWithModPython bug?
2008-01-08T22:22:51  <xorAxAx> was it ever pushed?
2008-01-08T22:22:56  <xorAxAx> i cannot find it in the google tracker
2008-01-08T22:22:58  <xorAxAx> dreimark: do you know?
2008-01-08T22:27:12  <xorAxAx> besides that bug, i have these easytodo pages on my pushing list:
2008-01-08T22:27:13  <xorAxAx> EasyToDo/CleanMarketPages
2008-01-08T22:27:14  <xorAxAx> EasyToDo/MoinCommand
2008-01-08T22:27:14  <xorAxAx> EasyToDo/DrawingReplacement
2008-01-08T22:27:24  <xorAxAx> please review
2008-01-08T22:37:13  <dreimark> MoveAttachmentNotWorkingWithModPython this is fixed in 1.6.1
2008-01-08T22:37:51  <dreimark> be im som momements completly online
2008-01-08T22:39:30  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=43
2008-01-08T22:40:03  <xorAxAx> http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/list?can=1&q=modpy&colspec=ID+Status+ClaimedBy+EndDate+Summary&cells=tiles
2008-01-08T22:40:06  <xorAxAx> how weird
2008-01-08T22:40:15  <xorAxAx> not even ModPy works
2008-01-08T22:40:28  <xorAxAx> dreimark: can you close the bug?
2008-01-08T22:40:40  <cb22> xorAxAx: do you know of a nice, complicated page that i can run my dump page against?
2008-01-08T22:40:47  <dreimark> will do
2008-01-08T22:40:52  <xorAxAx> cb22: syntaxreference? :)
2008-01-08T22:40:59  <xorAxAx> and helponmacros
2008-01-08T22:41:16  <xorAxAx> and the monthcalender page
2008-01-08T22:41:38  <cb22> perfect :) it even has a redirect thrown in
2008-01-08T22:42:05  <YoniWiz> ooh and xorAxAx: the comment I already had when I asked you about how much longer I had already adressed and fixed via IRC but I didnt bother to reupload since it was a small difference
2008-01-08T22:42:51  <cb22> xorAxAx: should i add in a 'dump all pages linked to by this one' option?
2008-01-08T22:43:13  <dreimark> hmm the patch isn't commited currently
2008-01-08T22:43:23  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: ok :)
2008-01-08T22:43:47  <xorAxAx> cb22: well, would it work recursively?
2008-01-08T22:44:05  <xorAxAx> if yes, you might even want to ask the user for the level :-)
2008-01-08T22:44:15  <xorAxAx> but only if you like
2008-01-08T22:44:30  <xorAxAx> i mean, its not in the original task description (but i wont stop you from having fun :))
2008-01-08T22:45:28  <cb22> hehe, consider it done in that case :)
2008-01-08T22:46:01  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ping
2008-01-08T22:46:26  * YoniWiz updates issues 87 with new version :-)
2008-01-08T22:49:31  <cb22> xorAxAx: btw, i see what you mean, the cal is br0ken :(
2008-01-08T22:50:50  <xorAxAx> as usual :)
2008-01-08T22:52:49  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: did you increase the font size?
2008-01-08T22:53:03  <YoniWiz> yes
2008-01-08T22:53:17  <YoniWiz> from like 44 to 50
2008-01-08T22:53:38  <xorAxAx> ok
2008-01-08T22:53:52  <xorAxAx> hmm, the large paragraph is indeed ugly
2008-01-08T22:54:05  <xorAxAx> how about two columns? then you can shorten the sentences again
2008-01-08T22:54:28  <xorAxAx> (and drop words like "alternatively" or "in addition")
2008-01-08T22:54:48  <xorAxAx> besides that, its nice
2008-01-08T22:56:06  <YoniWiz> k
2008-01-08T23:19:08  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ok
2008-01-08T23:25:23  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ?
2008-01-08T23:25:53  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the modpy forms patch of http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/MoveAttachmentNotWorkingWithModPython
2008-01-08T23:26:04  <dreimark> fits easy into current 1.6
2008-01-08T23:26:26  <dreimark> I believe many other patches have to add first to 1.7
2008-01-08T23:27:03  <dreimark> to been added
2008-01-08T23:29:23  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: which paragraph am I making into colums?
2008-01-08T23:29:40  <YoniWiz> the whole bullet point list shuold be colums?
2008-01-08T23:32:54  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: well, choose something that distributes the text best
2008-01-08T23:32:58  <xorAxAx> and yes, that makes sense
2008-01-08T23:33:00  <YoniWiz> ok
2008-01-08T23:33:31  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: "Other forms are okay, I don't
2008-01-08T23:33:34  <ThomasWaldmann> know why this one is different."
2008-01-08T23:33:48  <ThomasWaldmann> was that question answered somehow?
2008-01-08T23:35:43  <dreimark> oh sorry, should be more verbose. bollekk has pointed out that we have to be conform to enter a real action name
2008-01-08T23:36:03  <dreimark> so it is always wrong to enter only ""
2008-01-08T23:36:54  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but the interesting part was why it fails only in this case
2008-01-08T23:37:32  <dreimark> I know, and I don't know why too
2008-01-08T23:38:16  <dreimark> the question is more now on which point do we add this patch
2008-01-08T23:40:10  <ThomasWaldmann> it looks harmless enough for 1.6 (and it is a bug fix)
2008-01-08T23:43:24  <dreimark> ok, then I 'll add it.
2008-01-08T23:48:11  <cb22> hmm, could someone explain to me the behaviour of: x = ['a','b']; x2 = x; for i in x2: x.append("c"); print i
2008-01-08T23:49:13  <cb22> wait - by using x2 = x, i am setting x2 to be whatever x will be now and forever more, right?
2008-01-08T23:49:53  <cb22> so how could i set x2 to a copy of what x is now?
2008-01-08T23:54:28  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo/DrawingReplacement this stuff poses some integration questions
2008-01-08T23:56:52  <ThomasWaldmann> we could have a updatefckeditor task :P
2008-01-08T23:57:38  <ThomasWaldmann> that would be extremely useful. otoh i am not sure how hard it is for someone with js knowledge.
2008-01-08T23:57:58  <CIA-35> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2494:11e20c641ade 1.6/MoinMoin/ (12 files in 4 dirs): bug fix of MoinMoinBugs/MoveAttachmentNotWorkingWithModPython (thanks to Bolesław Kulbabiński)
2008-01-08T23:59:56  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: x2 = x[:]