MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-02-04

2008-02-04T00:01:44  * ThomasWaldmann hears distant snoring noises
2008-02-04T00:02:17  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, review the last change please
2008-02-04T00:04:10  <ThomasWaldmann> perfect :)
2008-02-04T00:04:32  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks! I run the page updater script now.
2008-02-04T00:04:55  <grzywacz> good night, then ;)
2008-02-04T00:09:58  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2547:bedeb2afe54c 1.6/wiki/underlay.tar.bz2: release 1.6.1, updated system and help pages
2008-02-04T00:09:59  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2548:3355d07fffec 1.6/.hgtags: tagged release 1.6.1
2008-02-04T00:27:02  <ThomasWaldmann> moin 1.6.1 is out :)
2008-02-04T00:28:05  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: do you always put out releases at weird times in the morning? :)
2008-02-04T00:28:21  <TheSheep> cb22: sunday night
2008-02-04T00:28:34  <ThomasWaldmann> it is just 23:28 utc :)
2008-02-04T00:29:06  <TheSheep> put out == extinguish :P
2008-02-04T00:29:20  <cb22> hehe
2008-02-04T00:30:03  <cb22> its +2 here,  and i have schoool at 8
2008-02-04T00:30:13  <cb22> yay, fun
2008-02-04T00:30:39  * TheSheep read 'school' as 'alcochol' for some reason
2008-02-04T00:30:44  <TheSheep> that'd be high
2008-02-04T00:31:40  <TheSheep> I think the polish record for drunk driving is about 4.8
2008-02-04T00:31:49  <cb22> lmao
2008-02-04T00:33:09  <cb22> 4.8?
2008-02-04T00:33:24  <TheSheep> promiles of alcochol in blood
2008-02-04T00:33:45  <TheSheep> the deadly dose is 4.3 I think
2008-02-04T00:33:53  <cb22> damn you polish and your vodka!
2008-02-04T00:34:04  <cb22> yeah, i was think that
2008-02-04T00:34:12  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ghost driver :D
2008-02-04T00:34:23  <TheSheep> how do you say it? ... mah majster?
2008-02-04T00:34:43  <TheSheep> practice makes a master
2008-02-04T00:35:42  * cb22 runs away from TheSheep 
2008-02-04T00:35:59  <cb22> faster tgen i ran away from server2k3
2008-02-04T00:36:03  <xorAxAx> you can get new sheep on www.adultsheepfinder.com
2008-02-04T00:36:55  <TheSheep> I don't drink vodka, honest, two beers make me unconscious
2008-02-04T00:37:15  <TheSheep> plus, sheep need to avoid becoming even more flammable
2008-02-04T00:37:26  <cb22> heh, atm a glass of champange knocks me out
2008-02-04T00:37:43  <cb22> TheSheep: ever played worms...
2008-02-04T00:37:47  <TheSheep> glass = 220ml ? :)
2008-02-04T00:37:54  <cb22> think flying super sheep
2008-02-04T00:38:10  * ThomasWaldmann likes electricsheep :)
2008-02-04T00:38:20  <cb22> heh, yes a tiny glass
2008-02-04T00:38:34  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: droids don't dream
2008-02-04T00:39:32  <TheSheep> cb22: 4 glasses = 1l
2008-02-04T00:40:50  <cb22> << was on roacctuane up unttil a day ago
2008-02-04T00:41:28  <cb22> although i never got tolded the part where you are not supposed to consume alchol
2008-02-04T00:42:20  <cb22> (with all the spelling mistakes im making, you must think im retarded, but im just using my p990 :-
2008-02-04T00:43:14  <TheSheep> I'm still getting used to a laptop keyboard
2008-02-04T00:44:06  <cb22> those are easy, especially if you have a nice big one
2008-02-04T00:44:13  <TheSheep> 12"
2008-02-04T00:44:21  <cb22> nevermind!
2008-02-04T00:44:38  <TheSheep> it's not one of those HPs with number pads
2008-02-04T00:44:46  <cb22> a 17" is a bit easier
2008-02-04T00:45:12  <cb22> which coincidently happens to be a HP with the number pad
2008-02-04T00:45:23  <TheSheep> I finally found how to disable the touchpad while typing, which is a great improvement
2008-02-04T00:46:15  <cb22> indeed, it can get really irritating when you select something accidentally and replace it
2008-02-04T00:46:37  <cb22> btw, synaptics touch pad?
2008-02-04T00:46:48  <TheSheep> or scroll throgh the command history and delete the file you were supposed to copy
2008-02-04T00:46:53  <TheSheep> yes
2008-02-04T00:47:00  <TheSheep> through
2008-02-04T00:51:36  <TheSheep> well then, good night
2008-02-04T00:52:03  <ThomasWaldmann> gn TheSheep
2008-02-04T00:53:55  <cb22> night ThomasWaldmann
2008-02-04T00:53:58  <cb22> wwops
2008-02-04T00:54:05  <cb22> TheSheep*
2008-02-04T00:54:11  <cb22> and gn all too
2008-02-04T00:55:48  <ThomasWaldmann> gn cb22
2008-02-04T10:09:44  <johill> dreimark: I removed all my changesets from the forward ports page, all are already in 1.7 or I committed them in parallel or they were already fixed/only apply to 1.6
2008-02-04T10:17:40  <CIA-36> Johannes Berg <johannes AT sipsolutions DOT net> default * 2549:b43abeecd4ef 1.6/MoinMoin/action/diff.py: fix regular diff view, escaping before text formatting is wrong
2008-02-04T10:18:07  <CIA-36> Johannes Berg <johannes AT sipsolutions DOT net> default * 3039:744c46c1f869 1.7/MoinMoin/action/diff.py: fix regular diff view, escaping before text formatting is wrong (port from 1.6)
2008-02-04T10:20:30  <johill> also fixed that stupid bug :)
2008-02-04T12:05:05  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-02-04T14:32:10  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.thepocketgeek.com/
2008-02-04T14:35:25  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2550:6b64b2cdef2f 1.6/MoinMoin/logfile/__init__.py: fix logfile code for EACCESS errors (does not hide them, just logs and re-raises now)
2008-02-04T14:35:26  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2551:dfb257df7fe3 1.6/ (21 files in 11 dirs): merge main
2008-02-04T15:51:12  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/ArbitraryInjectionOfErrorMessage you fixed that, right? there should be some comment about that at the bottom, with link to changeset in our repo.
2008-02-04T18:44:08  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: yes, in 1.7. i'll sort it out
2008-02-04T18:46:24  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks
2008-02-04T18:49:16  * cb22 throws flaming sheep at xorAxAx for misspelling his name :p
2008-02-04T18:49:26  <johill> dreimark: I'm almost done scanning about all pictures I ever took in my life, so now I'm soon going to be interested in putting up a nice gallery ... :)
2008-02-04T18:49:46  <xorAxAx> cb22: where?
2008-02-04T18:50:05  <ThomasWaldmann> i buy an r
2008-02-04T18:50:12  <cb22> hehe
2008-02-04T18:50:16  <cb22> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/rev/49b9e807a51d
2008-02-04T18:51:04  <xorAxAx> opops :)
2008-02-04T21:01:13  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/MoinMoinBugs/1.6NoPageTrailForAnonymousUser?action=diff&rev2=7&rev1=6 please check
2008-02-04T21:03:10  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: I think I agree
2008-02-04T21:05:10  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: the docs change looks good too
2008-02-04T21:05:47  <ThomasWaldmann> the question is whether we should have a default for the anon cookie lifetime setting
2008-02-04T21:05:56  <johill> hmm
2008-02-04T21:06:20  <johill> because you have to add the anon session to the list anyway?
2008-02-04T21:06:20  <johill> well
2008-02-04T21:06:21  <johill> thing is in 1.7 it's only the cookie lifetime anon sessions are built-in
2008-02-04T21:06:53  <ThomasWaldmann> so the setting is not needed any more?
2008-02-04T21:07:09  <johill> the setting is
2008-02-04T21:07:12  <johill> moin_anon_session isn't
2008-02-04T21:07:40  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2008-02-04T21:08:35  <ThomasWaldmann> some people are having trouble with http auth and trail
2008-02-04T21:08:48  <ThomasWaldmann> just misconfiguration or is there another reason?
2008-02-04T21:08:51  <johill> no idea
2008-02-04T21:09:26  <ThomasWaldmann> if guess it should work with http, moin_session[, moin_anon_session]
2008-02-04T21:11:10  <johill> yeah
2008-02-04T21:12:44  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/CachingLockFail any idea about this one?
2008-02-04T21:13:05  <ThomasWaldmann> i see that increasing the timeout might help for high load / slow machines.
2008-02-04T21:13:36  <ThomasWaldmann> but that hunk at the end looks strange. why is there a problem removing a directory under windows?
2008-02-04T21:13:48  <xorAxAx> because files from the dir might still be open?
2008-02-04T21:15:05  <ThomasWaldmann> does that matter?
2008-02-04T21:15:38  <xorAxAx> currently checking the code
2008-02-04T21:16:45  <johill> the first hunk looks a bit weird
2008-02-04T21:16:48  <johill> that shouldn't happen
2008-02-04T21:16:50  <xorAxAx> i rather think that the check might be broken on windows
2008-02-04T21:17:10  <johill> and the other stuff is filesystem stuff I'm not really familiar with
2008-02-04T21:17:26  <ThomasWaldmann> and do we have files there?
2008-02-04T21:17:30  <xorAxAx> because the windows compatible check for enoent is longer than the removed line
2008-02-04T21:17:42  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you mean in the lock dir? no
2008-02-04T21:18:11  <ThomasWaldmann> so what could be open %)
2008-02-04T21:18:19  <xorAxAx> nothing
2008-02-04T21:18:26  <johill> index service ;)
2008-02-04T21:18:32  <ThomasWaldmann> hah
2008-02-04T21:18:34  <xorAxAx> thats why i concluded that the check is broken
2008-02-04T21:24:28  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: that first hunk is because of his "fix" with data = "" X)
2008-02-04T21:30:30  <ThomasWaldmann> looks like that EACCES is the problem
2008-02-04T21:30:40  <ThomasWaldmann> no idea why
2008-02-04T21:30:54  <ThomasWaldmann> (see that linked other bug report)
2008-02-04T21:34:10  <johill> hmm
2008-02-04T22:01:42  <dreimark> moin
2008-02-04T22:02:44  <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
2008-02-04T22:05:14  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: this is the correct test as found in moin itself:
2008-02-04T22:05:14  <xorAxAx>             if not (err.errno == errno.ENOENT or
2008-02-04T22:05:14  <xorAxAx>                     (err.errno == 3 and os.name == 'nt')):
2008-02-04T22:10:50  <ThomasWaldmann> 3 is what errno on windows?
2008-02-04T22:12:43  <dreimark> johill: cool
2008-02-04T22:12:43  <xorAxAx> file not found obviously
2008-02-04T22:13:31  <ThomasWaldmann> and this is not errno.ENOENT on windows?
2008-02-04T22:15:13  <xorAxAx> well, have a look at errno.py
2008-02-04T22:15:31  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-02-04T22:15:52  <xorAxAx> wasnt it python at some point in time?
2008-02-04T22:16:03  <ThomasWaldmann> i have no windows here
2008-02-04T22:16:23  <xorAxAx> i thought it would be a python file in the stdlib
2008-02-04T22:16:35  <ThomasWaldmann> and i didnt find errno.py here either (on linux)
2008-02-04T22:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (13:27) <   remaxim> ThomasWaldmann, bei print errno.ENOENT gibt er 2 raus
2008-02-04T22:20:01  <ThomasWaldmann> (auf windows)
2008-02-04T22:20:09  <ThomasWaldmann> was ist dann 3 fuer ein symbol?
2008-02-04T22:22:12  <dreimark> ESRCH = 3
2008-02-04T22:22:19  <xorAxAx> dreimark: window is not posix
2008-02-04T22:22:26  <xorAxAx> +s
2008-02-04T22:22:30  <dreimark> ok
2008-02-04T22:24:00  <ThomasWaldmann> [Errno 3] Das System kann den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden
2008-02-04T22:25:20  <ThomasWaldmann> ist aber wohl ein WindowsError, nicht OSError
2008-02-04T22:26:03  <xorAxAx> a windowserror is an oserror
2008-02-04T22:46:00  <ThomasWaldmann> grepping for errno shows lots of such code
2008-02-04T23:12:16  <xorAxAx> johill: whats your erdös number?
2008-02-04T23:12:25  <xorAxAx> johill: von zur gathen has 2
2008-02-04T23:13:31  <johill> heh
2008-02-04T23:13:51  <johill> probably high the only thing I published formally is my Bachelor's thesis in CS
2008-02-04T23:47:27  <xorAxAx> johill: einstein had 2 as well :)
2008-02-04T23:48:06  <johill> heh