2008-03-06T00:33:15 <ThomasWaldmann> http://freshmeat.net/projects/wordwarvi/?branch_id=73608&release_id=273134
2008-03-06T04:55:36 *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
2008-03-06T14:49:34 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3198:813972c4f43b 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py:
2008-03-06T14:49:34 <CIA-38> Fixes to link handling. Simplify code area and improve documentation
2008-03-06T14:49:34 <CIA-38> - Improve link handling by avoiding ulinks where the url is the same as the
2008-03-06T14:49:34 <CIA-38> description, since if no description is given, docbook will use the url.
2008-03-06T14:49:35 <CIA-38> - Document the cleanupUlinkNode function and why it exists.
2008-03-06T14:49:37 <CIA-38> - Document the code_area, code_token and macro functions.
2008-03-06T14:49:39 <CIA-38> - Simplify the code_area code
2008-03-06T14:49:41 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3199:593d2e6265ce 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py: Change back to iso-8859-1
2008-03-06T14:49:44 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3200:6a83a46ccf59 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py:
2008-03-06T14:49:52 <CIA-38> Added support for the comment elements by implementing the div and span
2008-03-06T14:49:55 <CIA-38> functions. The comment is mapped as the remark entity in docbook which can
2008-03-06T14:49:57 <CIA-38> really only be inline, so using the div system might produce invalid docbooks.
2008-03-06T14:49:59 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3201:e26c52c2ef0b 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py:
2008-03-06T14:50:02 <CIA-38> Image handling fixes
2008-03-06T14:50:04 <CIA-38> - Fixed a bug where if the attachment had a title specified, the title would
2008-03-06T14:50:06 <CIA-38> not be carried over as the alternative text.
2008-03-06T14:50:08 <CIA-38> - Images should now always get an absolute path.
2008-03-06T14:50:10 <CIA-38> - Documented attachment image.
2008-03-06T14:50:51 <xorAxAx> hmm, is that mikko working on 1.7?
2008-03-06T14:51:05 <xorAxAx> because i dont see any merge cs :)
2008-03-06T14:55:36 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, it is mikko (or his clone :)
2008-03-06T14:56:30 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: what merge cs do you miss?
2008-03-06T14:57:07 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: ones that would appear if anybody pulled other branches into main :)
2008-03-06T14:57:51 <ThomasWaldmann> he didnt do that
2008-03-06T14:59:00 <xorAxAx> hmm?
2008-03-06T14:59:22 <ThomasWaldmann> he decided it is easier to redo some clean changesets in 1.7 than to do the merge
2008-03-06T14:59:31 <xorAxAx> yeah
2008-03-06T14:59:41 <xorAxAx> well, it could have been you pushing the branch
2008-03-06T15:00:07 <xorAxAx> hmm, thats a big disadvantage and the reason for signed cs i presume
2008-03-06T15:02:57 * ThomasWaldmann looks at http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/PrevNextDiffButtons
2008-03-06T15:15:53 <starshine> mm buttons
2008-03-06T15:33:06 <ThomasWaldmann> wb mvirkkil :)
2008-03-06T15:33:23 <mvirkkil> thanks :)
2008-03-06T15:33:30 <mvirkkil> And thanks for the commit rights ;)
2008-03-06T15:33:46 <ThomasWaldmann> that diff buttons patch has quite some problems...
2008-03-06T15:34:59 * mvirkkil wonders what patch people are talking about
2008-03-06T15:35:01 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: you're welcome :) looks like the docbook stuff gets much better in 1.7 :)
2008-03-06T15:35:39 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: the diff buttons patch?
2008-03-06T15:36:10 <ThomasWaldmann> it is just prev diff / next diff navigation in moin's diff view
2008-03-06T15:44:47 <mvirkkil> So, I was talking about creating a few div classes to be used with the {{{!wiki css_class ... system. The classes would be something like note, tip, warn, caution etc. These are known commonly as admonitions.
2008-03-06T15:45:03 <mvirkkil> You can see something like this used here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/HowTo
2008-03-06T15:45:27 <mvirkkil> but they do it on and old wiki using a table
2008-03-06T15:46:10 <mvirkkil> But no code changes would be necessary, just creating the styles and icons (or copying them from someplace) and documenting it as a feature.
2008-03-06T15:47:50 <mvirkkil> should they maybe be all uppercase or something to make them more prominent in the wiki markup?
2008-03-06T15:48:01 <mvirkkil> {{{!wiki WARNING
2008-03-06T15:48:05 <mvirkkil> This is a warning
2008-03-06T15:48:07 <mvirkkil> }}}
2008-03-06T15:50:52 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: I did it for http://labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl with the SectionParser
2008-03-06T15:52:19 <mvirkkil> I'm not very familiar with SectionParser? How would it compare to this approach?
2008-03-06T15:53:13 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: it was doing the same as the !wiki parse does now
2008-03-06T15:53:38 <mvirkkil> ok.
2008-03-06T15:53:50 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: basically, makes a classed div around some wiki markup
2008-03-06T15:53:57 <mvirkkil> yeah.
2008-03-06T15:54:22 <TheSheep> I made the classes in a separate css file, and @import them
2008-03-06T15:54:49 <mvirkkil> How about porting them to MoinMoin? :)
2008-03-06T15:55:11 <mvirkkil> The thing is that if the five classnames are standard, I can map them to the DocBook ones.
2008-03-06T15:55:30 <TheSheep> http://labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl//~labs/blue/css/sections.css
2008-03-06T15:55:42 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: five?
2008-03-06T15:56:23 <mvirkkil> DocBook supports five natively: tip, note, important, warning, caution
2008-03-06T15:56:53 <TheSheep> what's the difference between caution and warning?
2008-03-06T15:57:08 <mvirkkil> if we have five style classes defined (they don't have to have those names or anything) people will be able to see the "right thing" when they export to docbook
2008-03-06T15:57:21 <mvirkkil> I think one is stronger :)
2008-03-06T15:57:32 <TheSheep> which one?
2008-03-06T15:57:37 <mvirkkil> caution
2008-03-06T15:58:58 <mvirkkil> i think
2008-03-06T15:59:01 <mvirkkil> :P
2008-03-06T15:59:31 <mvirkkil> hmm, looking at the docbook docs' icons, I'd say warning is stronger
2008-03-06T15:59:42 <mvirkkil> It has a big red stop sign in the example
2008-03-06T16:00:06 <mvirkkil> while caution is yellow triangle with an exclamation mark
2008-03-06T16:00:19 <mvirkkil> But I don't know.
2008-03-06T16:01:22 <mvirkkil> "Caution might imply the possibility of harm to equipment whereas Warning might imply harm to a person"
2008-03-06T16:01:39 <mvirkkil> is what they wrote in their docs as an example
2008-03-06T16:02:17 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: is there a spec for this?
2008-03-06T16:04:29 <mvirkkil> http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html
2008-03-06T16:04:44 <mvirkkil> Short little specification :)
2008-03-06T16:40:44 <mvirkkil> The basic idea of docbook is that every tag has semantic meaning, but unfortunately they created a new tag for each semantic meaning they thought of :)
2008-03-06T16:42:39 <mvirkkil> And they've been at it for 15 years.
2008-03-06T16:43:44 <xorAxAx> hi mvirkkil
2008-03-06T16:44:12 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Hi
2008-03-06T16:51:33 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: I don't really grok the distinction of most "sematic meanings" in docbook, and from what I can see in the wild, the "semantic meanings" are picked entirely for their presentation
2008-03-06T16:51:59 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: if it doesnt create conflicts with what we have, just use the docbook names. no need to invent new ones and a mapping.
2008-03-06T16:52:11 <TheSheep> mvirkkil: I offered to make a css for some html generated from docbook
2008-03-06T16:52:23 <TheSheep> I've given up after seeng the html
2008-03-06T16:53:19 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: do you have py.test installed?
2008-03-06T16:53:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (please run it and do a separate commit for all failing test_sourcecode tests)
2008-03-06T16:54:10 <ThomasWaldmann> (I mean a single, separate commit that fixes all the issues)
2008-03-06T16:55:02 <ThomasWaldmann> (and please also fix the minor issue in MoinMoin/log.py within that cs :)
2008-03-06T16:55:20 <ThomasWaldmann> re-run py.test until test_sourcecode gets silent
2008-03-06T16:59:46 * mvirkkil goes looking for py.test
2008-03-06T16:59:58 <mvirkkil> Is it different from pychecker?
2008-03-06T17:00:24 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: what is pychecker?
2008-03-06T17:00:28 <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3202:4985657ad30a 1.7/MoinMoin/action/diff.py: diff action: fix double http header emission error
2008-03-06T17:00:34 <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3203:136ffd0554b9 1.7/ (MoinMoin/action/diff.py docs/CHANGES): diff action: added navigation buttons (needs css work)
2008-03-06T17:00:39 <xorAxAx> people should not get push permissions if they havent used py.test, ThomasWaldmann
2008-03-06T17:02:47 * mvirkkil installing py.test reallu fast :ÅP
2008-03-06T17:03:00 <mvirkkil> gah
2008-03-06T17:03:37 <xorAxAx> :)
2008-03-06T17:03:50 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: its a unittesting tool
2008-03-06T17:04:02 <xorAxAx> not a code quality checker (thats what pychecker sounds like)
2008-03-06T17:04:12 <mvirkkil> yeah
2008-03-06T17:04:21 <mvirkkil> running the py.test now
2008-03-06T17:06:37 <mvirkkil> I'll have to figure out how to write tests so that when the formatter breaks people will notice..
2008-03-06T17:08:01 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: it makes sense to use xpath
2008-03-06T17:08:05 <xorAxAx> do you know xpath?
2008-03-06T17:08:08 <mvirkkil> yeah
2008-03-06T17:08:28 <xorAxAx> you write simple wiki markup test cases and see whether your xpath queries on the result return the correct data
2008-03-06T17:08:32 <mvirkkil> I'd really like to use something like xmllint for checking the actual validity
2008-03-06T17:08:53 <xorAxAx> ah, well, feeding it into 4suite would be fine as well, no? :)
2008-03-06T17:09:10 <mvirkkil> It would add a dependecy
2008-03-06T17:09:36 <mvirkkil> I don't think the current version requires 4suite
2008-03-06T17:09:55 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: dependencies on tests are rather fine if the dependency isnt too exotic
2008-03-06T17:10:00 <xorAxAx> s/on/of/
2008-03-06T17:10:11 <mvirkkil> ok, I'll look in to it.
2008-03-06T17:11:16 <mvirkkil> I'm going to be away for the weekend so I'll get back to you on monday
2008-03-06T17:14:54 <mvirkkil> I'll fix the test_sourcecode failings in text_docbook and log
2008-03-06T17:17:07 <xorAxAx> they are rather low priority compared to real failures :)
2008-03-06T17:19:41 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: the recent pylint run found about 5 real bugs
2008-03-06T17:20:10 <xorAxAx> does test_sourcecode use pylint?
2008-03-06T17:20:36 <ThomasWaldmann> no, but I am thinking about adding pylint somehwhere
2008-03-06T17:22:55 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/MoinMoinModernCSSCollidesWithDocBookCSS
2008-03-06T17:23:36 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: do you see some other way to fix that aside from renaming footnote in every moin theme?
2008-03-06T17:25:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, in about a week, there is a major feature freeze scheduled for 1.7
2008-03-06T17:30:03 <mvirkkil> Really not my area of expertise. I think you could probably mess around with the docbook xslt:s but just changing every theme would probably be less painful
2008-03-06T17:30:56 <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is not primarily the 3 builtin themes, but the dozens of 3rd party themes
2008-03-06T17:32:55 <mvirkkil> Well, you could try to adjust the css rules so it wouldn't break so badly with the docbook/html parser but still work with moins native footnotes
2008-03-06T17:34:05 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, just make them more specific maybe
2008-03-06T17:34:09 * ThomasWaldmann looks
2008-03-06T17:42:30 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3204:aae4a2384804 1.7/MoinMoin/ (formatter/text_docbook.py log.py): whitespace fixes
2008-03-06T17:42:32 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3205:a9bbb1727693 1.7/ (MoinMoin/action/diff.py docs/CHANGES): merged main
2008-03-06T17:44:28 <mvirkkil> Seems that at least the class warning would conflict if it was used for admonitions :/
2008-03-06T17:46:18 <ThomasWaldmann> with what? the msg stuff?
2008-03-06T17:47:26 <mvirkkil> I just quickly checked if class warning was defined. Probably a message yes. Red text seems to be the main ingredient :)
2008-03-06T17:47:29 <mvirkkil> or :/
2008-03-06T17:48:08 * mvirkkil goes to install firebug for faster experimenting
2008-03-06T17:51:10 <mvirkkil> Hmm.. How about having the css classnames in {{{#!wiki be transparently prepended with something
2008-03-06T17:52:09 <mvirkkil> like for instance the red would automagically mean mmwiki_red
2008-03-06T17:52:41 <mvirkkil> it would keep the wiki syntax clean but make it harder for people to get interference from a theme by accident
2008-03-06T17:55:41 <mvirkkil> The warning is defined in common.css
2008-03-06T17:56:54 <mvirkkil> And out of the five names for admonitions it is the only one that clashes
2008-03-06T17:57:26 <mvirkkil> I guess I could just let themes override it with more specific values and ignore the clash.
2008-03-06T18:01:56 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, rst also has admonitions
2008-03-06T18:05:50 <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: the only usage of that "global warning" <g> is macro.Include._sysmsg
2008-03-06T18:06:33 <ThomasWaldmann> (and it is only used as class for <strong> there)
2008-03-06T18:06:50 <ThomasWaldmann> so I guess you can move it out of the way
2008-03-06T18:20:15 <mvirkkil> I'd like to do the handling like this http://pastebin.ca/930499
2008-03-06T18:20:21 <mvirkkil> In the formatter
2008-03-06T18:20:41 <mvirkkil> note the dictionary for the mapping, where only one text is actually mapped
2008-03-06T18:21:07 <mvirkkil> But I wrote it as two different cases and the code got a lot uglier, so I'd prefer this approach
2008-03-06T18:21:46 <mvirkkil> also because if someone later wants to add more of these simple cases, it should be really straight forward with this system.
2008-03-06T18:22:06 <mvirkkil> Am I going to hear moans and groans if I commit it like that?
2008-03-06T18:23:39 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: this snippet has several issues:
2008-03-06T18:23:53 <mvirkkil> great
2008-03-06T18:23:54 <mvirkkil> :)
2008-03-06T18:24:00 <xorAxAx> a) you are iterating over a dict, this will give you a different order in various situations
2008-03-06T18:24:07 <mvirkkil> ahh, true
2008-03-06T18:24:47 <xorAxAx> b) can you explain the need for the for/if loop in the off-case?
2008-03-06T18:25:32 <mvirkkil> nope
2008-03-06T18:25:46 <mvirkkil> Well spotted.
2008-03-06T18:26:04 * mvirkkil needs to code less and sleep more when he's tired
2008-03-06T18:27:00 <xorAxAx> i think the dict is explicit but nevertheless fine :)
2008-03-06T18:27:40 <mvirkkil> ok. Do you have any suggestions for a clean remedy to a)
2008-03-06T18:28:22 <xorAxAx> i am a bit confused currently because the on case generates multiple tags but the off case only generates one
2008-03-06T18:29:24 <mvirkkil> multiple tags? shouldn't, there's a break for jumping out of the for loop.
2008-03-06T18:29:37 <xorAxAx> ah, indeed
2008-03-06T18:29:49 <mvirkkil> I'm changing it to return...
2008-03-06T18:30:00 <mvirkkil> well remove one line of code :P
2008-03-06T18:30:03 <xorAxAx> then iterating over the keys is probably fine
2008-03-06T18:30:54 <mvirkkil> Well, it could give stange results if someone desides to hide an admonition as a comment.
2008-03-06T18:30:59 <mvirkkil> uuh, or something
2008-03-06T18:31:22 <xorAxAx> if only one class is allowed, it should be fine.
2008-03-06T18:31:34 <xorAxAx> but generally, multiple ones should be supported, right?
2008-03-06T18:31:47 <mvirkkil> I was thinking just that.
2008-03-06T18:32:02 <mvirkkil> And then the order of them will decide how the elements get nested.
2008-03-06T18:32:33 <mvirkkil> Wheter to create a tip inside a comment or a comment inside a tip. The latter would be pretty useless though.
2008-03-06T18:32:39 <mvirkkil> or maybe not..
2008-03-06T18:33:06 <xorAxAx> :)
2008-03-06T18:33:29 <mvirkkil> but then I run in to different problems, like needing to back out two steps instead of one.
2008-03-06T18:33:42 <mvirkkil> No thankyou. The formatter will support only explisitly nested stuff
2008-03-06T18:33:48 <mvirkkil> not nested by style.
2008-03-06T18:34:19 <xorAxAx> well, how is the api used currently
2008-03-06T18:34:21 <xorAxAx> ...?
2008-03-06T18:34:35 <mvirkkil> it isn't
2008-03-06T18:34:40 <mvirkkil> with the docbook formatter
2008-03-06T18:34:52 <mvirkkil> but you can do red/comment
2008-03-06T18:35:07 <mvirkkil> which should give you a red comment in html
2008-03-06T18:35:38 <xorAxAx> hmm, isnt it used by the section parser?
2008-03-06T18:35:41 <mvirkkil> but docbook doesn't support rendering instructions like "red" and mixing semantic information like that is probably not really smart.
2008-03-06T18:36:08 <mvirkkil> There was no implementation for div or span before about 20h ago.
2008-03-06T18:36:16 <mvirkkil> in the docbook formatter that is.
2008-03-06T18:36:57 <xorAxAx> thats irrelevant for the general abstract formatter api :)
2008-03-06T18:37:15 <mvirkkil> yeah, but I mean it didn't do anything
2008-03-06T18:37:26 <xorAxAx> yes
2008-03-06T18:49:26 <CIA-38> Mikko Virkkilä <mvirkkil@cc.hut.fi> default * 3206:79cd11198076 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py:
2008-03-06T18:49:26 <CIA-38> Support for admonitions.
2008-03-06T18:49:26 <CIA-38> If a code area uses the wiki parser and sets the class to one of tip, note,
2008-03-06T18:49:26 <CIA-38> important, caution or warning the contents of the area will become a
2008-03-06T18:49:26 <CIA-38> docbook native admonition of the same name.
2008-03-06T18:50:13 <xorAxAx> btw, if 4suite doesnt support xpath matching, lxml should support it
2008-03-06T18:55:19 <mvirkkil> I heard good things about lxml
2008-03-06T18:55:58 <mvirkkil> Someone told me it was well written and blazing fast
2008-03-06T18:56:28 <xorAxAx> speed is not an issue for unittests
2008-03-06T19:03:26 <mvirkkil> Nope, but it was an issue with the import-book functionality. Importing a book caused a time out and the import to fail.
2008-03-06T19:03:37 <mvirkkil> Or that is what I assumed happened.
2008-03-06T19:04:02 <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-03-06T19:08:31 <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: About the changelog/changes file: I've written pretty detailed commit logs, and a bit of a higher level description at http://moinmo.in/DocBook . Could one of these be copypasted directly in to the CHANGES file maybe?
2008-03-06T19:09:12 <ThomasWaldmann> docs/CHANGES is intended to be read by wiki admins
2008-03-06T19:09:25 <ThomasWaldmann> so the detail level should be appropriate
2008-03-06T19:09:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (also, of course formatting and not requiring context should be ok)
2008-03-06T19:12:22 <mvirkkil> ok.. I have to go. See you next week.
2008-03-06T19:18:25 <ThomasWaldmann> have a nice weekend :)
2008-03-06T20:12:02 <dreimark> hi
2008-03-06T20:13:08 <dreimark> why do we only quote " and not ' in wikiutil.escape ?
2008-03-06T20:13:57 <dreimark> it is clear theat's the " is the quote, but why not escaping ' too ?
2008-03-06T20:19:09 <ThomasWaldmann> because html uses " only
2008-03-06T20:21:17 <xorAxAx> ?
2008-03-06T20:21:38 <xorAxAx> <a href='...'></a> is perfectly fine html and xhtml
2008-03-06T20:24:20 <dreimark> xorAxAx: do you have a name for "'" ?
2008-03-06T20:24:54 <dreimark> which is ' escaped
2008-03-06T20:25:19 <xorAxAx> thats a numeric entity. do you mean the name of the corresponding named entity?
2008-03-06T20:25:23 <xorAxAx> no idea
2008-03-06T20:25:39 <dreimark> yes, and me too.
2008-03-06T20:25:51 <ThomasWaldmann> it is? oh. never used or seen...
2008-03-06T20:26:33 <dreimark> people use it often if they like to use " inside a text
2008-03-06T20:26:35 <johill> squot
2008-03-06T20:26:38 <johill> iirc
2008-03-06T20:36:55 <grzywacz> hi
2008-03-06T20:37:18 <dreimark> johill: no not
2008-03-06T20:37:44 <johill> ok, might have been elsewhere or I'm totally wrong
2008-03-06T20:40:36 <dreimark> you where not so far away it is ‘
2008-03-06T20:40:48 <dreimark> johill:
2008-03-06T20:41:13 <johill> lsquo? sounds more like left single quote
2008-03-06T20:44:53 <dreimark> hmm, that is right, but it is the sign I typed
2008-03-06T20:45:22 <dreimark> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2018/browsertest.htm
2008-03-06T20:45:22 <johill> there should be a table with unicode numbers :)
2008-03-06T20:48:17 <dreimark> nice page http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm?q=%27&preview=entity
2008-03-06T20:58:45 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: E1101:457:Package.installPackage: Instance of 'Package' has no 'runScript' member
2008-03-06T20:59:04 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: yes, i already noticed that pylint dislikes my class hierachy :)
2008-03-06T20:59:12 <xorAxAx> package is an abstract class
2008-03-06T20:59:19 <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-03-06T20:59:25 <xorAxAx> but let me check
2008-03-06T21:00:07 <xorAxAx> ah, that runScript comes from the scriptengine. package is only a mixin :)
2008-03-06T21:00:19 <xorAxAx> hmm, scriptengine is a mixin, whatever
2008-03-06T21:07:54 <CIA-38> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3207:309f5570ba2b 1.7/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil.escape: escapes ' too
2008-03-06T21:14:08 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: E0102:336:Parser._break_repl: method already defined line 272
2008-03-06T21:14:20 <ThomasWaldmann> (in the creole parser)
2008-03-06T21:17:19 <xorAxAx> thats a good hint :)
2008-03-06T21:19:12 * ThomasWaldmann suggests everone runs pylint and at least looks at the output lines beginning with E...
2008-03-06T21:19:26 * grzywacz used to run pylint when doing his SoC task ;]
2008-03-06T21:19:34 <ThomasWaldmann> make pylint in the toplevel Makefile
2008-03-06T21:19:46 <johill> ".. now grzywacz is beyond that though, he's a leet coder now" :P
2008-03-06T21:20:30 <grzywacz> hr
2008-03-06T21:20:31 <grzywacz> Almost.
2008-03-06T21:20:31 <grzywacz> :P
2008-03-06T21:25:05 <dreimark> pychecker founds lots of shadows builtin errors in text_html.py
2008-03-06T21:25:21 <dreimark> str and map
2008-03-06T21:25:46 <johill> I always shadow len
2008-03-06T21:25:52 <johill> and get "int is not callable"
2008-03-06T21:33:41 <ThomasWaldmann> str, id, filter, max, ...
2008-03-06T23:22:27 <xorAxAx> http://changelog.complete.org/posts/698-If-Version-Control-Systems-were-Airlines.html
2008-03-06T23:23:10 <xorAxAx> "As you arrive as your destination terminal, you see it too is full of philosophers, most of them dining."
2008-03-06T23:23:13 <xorAxAx> ROTFL
2008-03-06T23:24:51 <TheSheep> and a couple of them starved due to a deadlock
2008-03-06T23:25:02 <TheSheep> no wait, not that dinner
2008-03-06T23:26:34 <xorAxAx> either a deadlock or they injured themselves with the curly braces
2008-03-06T23:34:58 <johill> yeah read that earlier today too :)
2008-03-06T23:35:13 <johill> but you actually have to know these things
2008-03-06T23:35:18 <johill> like "merging with the stars" :)
2008-03-06T23:35:46 <xorAxAx> yeah
2008-03-06T23:36:10 <johill> no use reading that if you've never seen tla :)
2008-03-06T23:39:45 <TheSheep> who'd think that one could miss out on that
2008-03-06T23:40:00 <johill> "Git Airlines was founded by some priests who were flying for free on Bitkeeper Airlines and survived the fall after the Great Purge."
2008-03-06T23:40:30 <xorAxAx> :-)
2008-03-06T23:40:53 <xorAxAx> the best part is about svn merging, though
2008-03-06T23:40:59 <xorAxAx> or the git plumbing :)
2008-03-06T23:42:49 <johill> yeah hehe
2008-03-06T23:46:25 <dreimark> good night MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-03-06 (last edited 2008-03-05 23:45:02 by IrcLogImporter)
