MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-03-08

2008-03-08T01:41:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, moinmo.in, master.moinmo.in, hg.moinmo.in now run using mod_wsgi
2008-03-08T09:00:58  <dreimark> moin
2008-03-08T09:01:10  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: :)
2008-03-08T09:02:29  <dreimark> the crontab for the dev-logs isn't moved or?
2008-03-08T09:15:40  <dreimark> bbl
2008-03-08T10:29:55  * vpv says hi from the FOSS Day at Turku, Finland, already met ninnu in the train :)
2008-03-08T10:31:02  <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
2008-03-08T10:31:31  <ThomasWaldmann> greetings back to all guys and gals there :)
2008-03-08T10:32:21  <vpv> thanks, I'm not sure if there are other moin people here, users maybe...
2008-03-08T11:30:47  <ThomasWaldmann> s/maintained by/stolen from/ :)
2008-03-08T11:31:53  <TheSheep> image editing again?
2008-03-08T11:32:55  <grzywacz> morn
2008-03-08T11:33:00  <TheSheep> there was this motto for writers: steal only from the best
2008-03-08T12:08:06  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: image editing?
2008-03-08T12:17:59  <TheSheep> that java thngy
2008-03-08T12:23:57  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe try to tell a complete sentence :)
2008-03-08T12:39:34  <TheSheep> nah
2008-03-08T12:39:54  <TheSheep> I like to barge in a middle of conversation, try to guess what it is about and confuse everyone
2008-03-08T12:41:00  <ThomasWaldmann> but there was no conversation :P
2008-03-08T12:42:32  * ThomasWaldmann will try to debug (again) that nasty wiki parser <p> behaviour
2008-03-08T12:45:39  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I think it would help if you distinguished "simple" lists and ones with multiple paragraphs inside
2008-03-08T17:49:19  * ThomasWaldmann fixes the wsgi problem in 1.6
2008-03-08T17:51:12  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2562:0189a0b5597c 1.6/MoinMoin/request/request_wsgi.py: wsgi: fix TWikiDraw saving a drawing by also evaluating the query string args (backport from 1.7)
2008-03-08T17:53:44  <dreimark> re
2008-03-08T17:56:49  <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
2008-03-08T17:58:48  <dreimark> this tidy patch sounds interesting
2008-03-08T18:00:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: seems you have done lots work this night/morning
2008-03-08T18:00:58  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, if someone could give it a try with M$ stuff and clean it up a bit, I guess we could commit it.
2008-03-08T18:01:42  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, mostly with the new server
2008-03-08T18:02:28  <ThomasWaldmann> lets see if we got rid of the sporadic error 500
2008-03-08T18:02:59  <dreimark> without a different other one ;)
2008-03-08T18:03:28  <ThomasWaldmann> (looks like wsgi and moin did not get too much testing yet, in spite all of the hype)
2008-03-08T18:05:28  <ThomasWaldmann> but until now, I like mod_wsgi and its configuration (much less pain than misc other apache methods)
2008-03-08T18:05:43  <ThomasWaldmann> even a root wiki is dirt simple
2008-03-08T18:06:54  <ThomasWaldmann> a bit of a pity is that the daemon mode seems to be supported on UNIX only, not on Windows
2008-03-08T18:07:35  <ThomasWaldmann> but well, not my problem :)
2008-03-08T18:09:57  <dreimark> yes
2008-03-08T18:11:56  <dreimark> I do wonder sometimes that windows users try to keep windows with all it's problems instead of going to do something new but different
2008-03-08T18:12:43  <ThomasWaldmann> that's when the fear is bigger than the pain :)
2008-03-08T18:13:39  <ThomasWaldmann> (or when the decision is done by someone not having the pain)
2008-03-08T18:17:30  <dreimark> (this happens often in companies)
2008-03-08T18:44:15  * waldi .o0( (roo)TWiki, not root wiki ... )
2008-03-08T18:55:20  <dreimark> bbl
2008-03-08T18:57:09  <ThomasWaldmann> "One commit a day keeps the bit rot away." < LOL
2008-03-08T18:57:28  <ThomasWaldmann> (from TheSheep's blog)
2008-03-08T20:13:14  <TheSheep> yeah
2008-03-08T20:13:20  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2008-03-08T20:13:38  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I think that producing a proper tree in formatter would fix most of the bugs
2008-03-08T20:13:57  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: you could even apply some post-parsing fixes to the tree
2008-03-08T20:14:33  <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that if we change the formatter itself, we need to change all parsers
2008-03-08T20:14:55  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I'm not sure
2008-03-08T20:15:02  <ThomasWaldmann> if we use a similar approach as the creole parser/emitted, that is not needed
2008-03-08T20:15:07  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I will try to make a mockup
2008-03-08T20:16:04  <ThomasWaldmann> the formatter is also used for the theme, not only for content
2008-03-08T20:16:06  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I can try to make a formatter that would use the same technique, and then we can skip the "middle part" in new plugins
2008-03-08T20:17:35  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. a single call to f.url should not leave the formatter in a strange state
2008-03-08T20:18:25  <TheSheep> gotta run
2008-03-08T20:18:50  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, cu :)
2008-03-08T22:05:08  * ThomasWaldmann debugs the wiki parser
2008-03-08T23:57:59  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: we have to talk about http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/rev/dd5240822911