MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-01-17

2009-01-17T05:30:35  <ThomasWaldmann> http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16246 < seagate hdd problems
2009-01-17T16:24:29  * dreimark thinks the GuiEditorChangesDefinitionLists and the GuiEditorBreaksIndentedTable is fixed by http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/GuiEditorChangesDefinitionLists?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=definition_list5.patch
2009-01-17T16:28:44  <dreimark> BBL
2009-01-17T19:15:55  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/AnchorsHandledInconsistently < any other ideas / comments?
2009-01-17T21:17:11  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: do i see it correctly that your dom parser allows # in page names and just uses rightmost # for the fragment part?
2009-01-17T21:17:48  <ThomasWaldmann> (see link from 19:15)
2009-01-17T21:35:39  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: the mechanism is not fixed yet. but this is the implementation for now
2009-01-17T21:36:23  <ThomasWaldmann> not fixed yet means?
2009-01-17T21:37:01  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/AclRefactoring < please comment
2009-01-17T22:33:55  <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: using the right most delemiter is IMHO no good idea because it makes the behaviour inconsistent
2009-01-17T22:35:38  <ThomasWaldmann> well, using "Problem #1#" is a bit dirty, but not inconsistent
2009-01-17T22:36:13  <ThomasWaldmann> or what do you mean?
2009-01-17T22:54:25  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi:
2009-01-17T22:58:51  <waldi> well, if you have to add something at the end because you want to use it elsewhere, it is inconsistent
2009-01-17T23:00:05  <waldi> and it adds an exception for an exception
2009-01-17T23:01:23  <ThomasWaldmann> give an example
2009-01-17T23:07:40  <ThomasWaldmann> (the # added at the end for pagenames having a # inside them is not "used elsewhere", it is just a trick that exploits the rsplit('#',1) behaviour)
2009-01-17T23:13:52  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: just a loose idea, how about [[some link||section=anchor]]
2009-01-17T23:15:04  <ThomasWaldmann> that would be inconsistent with what we have
2009-01-17T23:15:21  <ThomasWaldmann> foo=bar is put as attr into the <a> tag
2009-01-17T23:15:42  <ThomasWaldmann> &foo=bar is put as queryarg into the url
2009-01-17T23:15:54  <TheSheep> #foo :)
2009-01-17T23:16:06  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that would make sense
2009-01-17T23:16:44  <ThomasWaldmann> it would solve that problem
2009-01-17T23:16:51  <TheSheep> one is sure, you really don't want to escape them in external urls though
2009-01-17T23:17:27  <ThomasWaldmann> you mean http urls?
2009-01-17T23:17:35  <TheSheep> yeah, and family
2009-01-17T23:17:58  <ThomasWaldmann> that stuff isn't escaped, but interwiki is
2009-01-17T23:18:50  <TheSheep> and how would you link to anchors on the same page?
2009-01-17T23:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> that needs either specialcasing or [[SamePage||#anchor]]
2009-01-17T23:20:07  <TheSheep> or [[||#anchor\\ (eek)
2009-01-17T23:20:10  <TheSheep> ]]
2009-01-17T23:20:30  <ThomasWaldmann> eek? :)
2009-01-17T23:20:49  <TheSheep> yeah, it's ugly
2009-01-17T23:21:19  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, [[||...]] would make sense, because we not only need anchors on same page, but maybe also qs args for same page
2009-01-17T23:21:48  <ThomasWaldmann> also, we need the label part for the anchor
2009-01-17T23:21:54  <TheSheep> it would be hard to click on %)
2009-01-17T23:21:58  <TheSheep> right
2009-01-17T23:22:10  <ThomasWaldmann> so it usually is [[|there|#there]]
2009-01-17T23:22:36  <TheSheep> or use the anchor when no address and no label
2009-01-17T23:22:43  <ThomasWaldmann> or [[|edit me|&action=edit]]
2009-01-17T23:23:28  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, is the creole team still alive? :)
2009-01-17T23:24:03  <TheSheep> I don't think so
2009-01-17T23:24:29  <ThomasWaldmann> because I think we're not alone with URL generation :)
2009-01-17T23:24:30  <TheSheep> the few people who are still active are not interested in wikis
2009-01-17T23:24:51  <TheSheep> feel free to start a discusion on wiki.wikicreole.org
2009-01-17T23:25:08  <dreimark> moin
2009-01-17T23:25:18  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, your idea complies better with URI standards I think
2009-01-17T23:25:36  <TheSheep> I think it would be awesme to use creole as a platform for discussion of technical solution, not just markup standard
2009-01-17T23:25:37  <ThomasWaldmann> because the #fragment stuff has to be last in uri (AFTER qs)
2009-01-17T23:26:00  <ThomasWaldmann> so, when combined, it is not appended after the pagename (path), but after the qs
2009-01-17T23:27:13  <ThomasWaldmann> so the PageName#anchor hack (as partially working now) is non-compliant when combined with a qs
2009-01-17T23:30:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I add this to our bug page
2009-01-17T23:36:41  <ThomasWaldmann> (see there)
2009-01-17T23:41:31  <ThomasWaldmann> I guess we better delay that change after dom repo merge, because iirc the current code doesn't separate path and fragment in the high level code.
2009-01-17T23:49:03  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/AnchorsHandledInconsistently < OK or better ideas?
2009-01-17T23:57:43  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 327:1b0d5caae8b6 1.7-extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): text_x_arnica: aligned images to the bottom applied patch by Johannes Berg.